Russian shills aside, why does Sup Forums hate Ukraine? they're majority white, allied with Germany in ww2, still support Nazis, nationalistic, trying to replace Russian with Ukrainian language (speaking the language of an invader is for shitskins, e.g. Mexicans), etc.
but before i get meme replies, lets dispel some myths being perpetuated by Russians here
>they want to join the EU European countries have a choice between the EU and Russia, and especially those with a history of Russian aggression, rather take their chances with the West. joining the EU does not mean the country immediately suffers mudfloods, as evidenced by Poland. and seriously expecting countries who have been victims of Russia to not strategically defend against them now is insane.
>their leaders are Jews because this infographic says so >but they're also literal Nazis. weren't the Nazis evil, guys? this is literally an argument made by Russian shills. hence why they immediately go into using a Jew tactic themselves by acting as if Nazis ever did anything wrong.
>CRIMEA IS RUSSIAN RIGHTFUL CLAY this is literally nigger tier geopolitics. historical precedence is irrelevant. a referendum is irrelevant. the demographics are irrelevant. San Diego doesn't get to hold a referendum and become part again of Mexico. San Diego being majority spic doesn't matter either. that is nigger level of politics.
now with the myths out of the way, explain yourselves.
Also there's an ukrainian user that is always posting photos of little girls. Fucking pedo.
Tyler Davis
>Russian shills aside >before i get meme replies, lets dispel some myths
where is fun?
Landon Mitchell
>They're majority white only an achievement if you live in 60% land
>allied with Germany in ww2 who then massacred them. being a treacherous turncoat is not admirable, especially if it backfires the way it did.
>still support Nazis how does one still support something that ceased to exist 70 years ago?
> nationalistic how can one be nationalistic about a fictional nation?
>trying to replace Russian with Ukrainian language trying to replace a language that has been spoken there for centuries with a dialect of the same language under a different name. so based.
Julian Campbell
>how does one still support something that ceased to exist 70 years ago?
by not taking the Jewish perspective of history, maybe?
>how can one be nationalistic about a fictional nation?
oh, hi Ivan. is Canada fictional, too? Ukraine has a much longer history than it.
>trying to replace a language that has been spoken there for centuries with a dialect of the same language under a different name. so based.
>reviving your people's ancient tongue >bad
dumb russian poster.
Oliver Ward
artificial country of artificial ethinic. ruled by jews since first day of independence.
Landon Bailey
>Ukraine has a much longer history Ukraine doesn't have history.
Brandon Long
We hate them for Wołyń. Aside for what they did they never apolegised and are still praising fucker responsible as their national hero.
Jacob Clark
>Ukraine? No such thing.
Hunter Perez
>they're majority White East of Kiev only. The rest is a sewage of Slav-Armenian-Tatar-Jewish mutts
Angel Allen
Do you draw conclusions about 45 million people by a pair of photos? Really?
William Reyes
West of Kiev only***
Charles Russell
not an argument
>artificial country of artificial ethinic. >ruled by jews since first day of independence.
citation needed.
poles have understandable reasons.
not an argument
Matthew Kelly
Referendum was about independence from Ukraine, not about being another tax black hole for Russia.
Juan Perez
Welcome to Sup Forums Now you go back to your shithole.
Matthew Hughes
>by not taking the Jewish perspective of history, maybe? That's funny, because their government is Jewish.
>. is Canada fictional, too? Ukraine has a much longer history than it. I never claimed canadians to be nationalistic. you've failed to address the point.
>>reviving your people's ancient tongue
(a) Ukrainian is not an ancient language. I don't think you understand. The very word Ukraine means "the edge". This is easily verified with a quick google. As in, "the edge of Russia" (b) you can't "revive" a language somewhere that it's never been majorly spoken (outside of western Ukraine)
Daniel Turner
>choice between EU and Russia You stupid amerimongrel. STAY OUT of European politics. There is no "choice" between EU and Russia EU = anti-White, anti-national Russia = anti-White, anti-national.
Real path is ethnonationalism, racial solidarity, trade and INDEPENDANCE
Ukranian lang was created during late 19 century against poles inside Prussia by Austro hungary. Ukranine as nation were raised by commie jews during 1920-27 years. Since fall of SU ukranian gov have more than 70% of people in hight ranks with dual israeli citizenship.
Connor Murphy
so? just because they hold a referendum doesn't mean they're permitted by the government to break away. it especially doesn't give Russia the right to take it.
>That's funny, because their government is Jewish.
nice meme. are you ever going to provide proof of this claim? you will claim in the next post they're Nazis, kek.
> I never claimed canadians to be nationalistic. you've failed to address the point.
you mean an assertion you made without any logical reasoning to back it up?
>(a) Ukrainian is not an ancient language. I don't think you understand. The very word Ukraine means "the edge". This is easily verified with a quick google. As in, "the edge of Russia" irrelevant >(b) you can't "revive" a language somewhere that it's never been majorly spoken (outside of western Ukraine) you spread your national language, you stupid fuck. doesn't matter if it hasn't been majorly spoken. neither was English in America until the settlers arrived. tough shit.
Aaron Ramirez
What's that got to do with Ukraine having no history?
James Fisher
You do understand that Ukraine has no less bydlo problem? The only decent nations of ex-USSR are Baltics and Belorus
Cooper Smith
how country side rednecks have anything to do with that ukranian history are made up bullshit?
Logan Watson
>again doesn't provide any citations for his insane ramblings as if they should just be given
i hope for your sake you don't get into debates publicly. how embarrassing.
Brody Sanchez
Modern Ukrainian government is filled with subhumans just like Russian ones. What do they have in common? Both are illegitimate to begin with - Russian Federation is a legal successor of the USSR, thusly - illegitimate. Ukraine is a non-state established by commies. See the similarity? Red niggers have no right to form and establish European nation states
Levi Brown
Your mother is still there. I afraid go back there.
Jackson Powell
because we supported them all these years and now they pretend they dont know us.
fuck you then im taking the land you borrowed without asking.
Lucas Edwards
what else could substitute the Russian government? is the spirit of White Russians even alive anymore?
Most of why I dislike Ukrainians comes from long before the Euromaidan and more to do with my observations on certain countryballs. It's like how we all hate leafs.
Ukrainians are the worst shitposter because they are trying too hard to be western. They are are prepared to sell out their shared heritage with Russia for Euro gibs. They embrace the worst aspects of Western culture as evidenced by their Jew oligarchs and bullshit like Pussy Riot and Femen. They also provide our western media a handy cudgel to bash Russia with.
When the Euromaidan happened, I saw it for what it was. Cosmopolitan Madame Sousou types making a big case about their country and it's direction. But in reality... most of those sluts just want to be able to go rich western Euro countries and leave it all behind.
I don't necessarily hate all Ukrainians. But I imagine the type of Ukrainian who speaks enough English to shitpost on imageboards is likely a sellout progressive.
Matthew Allen
>running away from the argument twice in row oy vey.
Nathan Harris
>and more to do with my observations on certain countryballs
stopped reading there.
Henry Powell
i don't think you understand how an argument works. you've made some pretty jarring claims. if you're not going to provide citations for them, then there's nothing to argue.
Joshua Russell
Pussian history look like trap. It looks like real woman but if you look closer...
Luke Wright
>nice meme. are you ever going to provide proof of this claim? Their former PM was a literal jew. Sorry. I even went digging for a source for your low IQ self
>He has played down his Jewish-Ukrainian origins, possibly because of the prevalence of antisemitism in his party's western Ukraine heartland. hope this is enough =)
> you will claim in the next post they're Nazis You're the one claiming they're nazis repeatedly ITT. I think you have an obsession
>you mean an assertion you made without any logical reasoning to back it up? still trying to dodge and failing to address the point. this is sad
>irrelevant not really, you just can't come up with a proper response. It must be hard being this wrong
>you spread your national language, you stupid fuck you're the one who wrote "revive", retard. You can't pick accurate words to describe your delusional thoughts, then you sperg out when people don't understand you. lol
Austin Lopez
Disband the government
Publicly denounce all ties and heirdom to the USSR and Russian Federation
Jail all formed party members, KGB/FSB butchers and Russian Federation political criminals
Purge every single Red symbol and monument
Establish a brand new Russian nation state
White Spirit is alive, most ethnic Russians are racists enough and when freedoms of election is given - Russian nationalists will have a landslide
>>they want to join the EU What you said is not an argument. You don't have to join either. And if you want to prevent agression - you join NATO, not EU. >their leaders are Jews because this infographic says so No, it's a fact. Quit playing dumb, shill. And nazis are just useful idiots of the jews. Like in WW2, nothing new here. >CRIMEA IS RUSSIAN RIGHTFUL CLAY It is. And they didn't ask anyone - they just took what belongs to them.
Adam Turner
They ally with whoever is cucking them at the time when the nazis started to lose they sided back with the soviets They did the same with the swedes , French and poles They are a race of betrayers and are excellent at killing themselves Can't speak for all as I have friends from sumy and Kharkov that are based and hate their puppet president and know they got Jewd pretty badly
Levi Mitchell
>Ukraine no such thing
Christian Myers
>Jail all formed party members, KGB/FSB butchers and Russian Federation political criminals You mean all current russian goverment?
Jace Martin
>Ukraine
?
Chase Scott
Because you are not a country and never will be. Give the clay back to its rightful holders Poland/Lithuania/Russia.
Grayson Sullivan
It's scary to think that some people on this board would rather larp and pretend Russia is great than to be against them. Fucking commies.
Zachary Peterson
- Ukraine was not allied with hitler, only former polish slaves were allied with hitler, hitler planed to exterminate them later. hitler is shit. - Ukrainian language and identity were made by commie Jews in 1920s. They tried to create colony with slaves. - There is no choise between EU and russia. it is choice between: you sell everyhting to kikes and let them rule you or you are slowly intergrated in russia. - Ukrainians are "white", but voting majority consist of stupid africant peasants from western ukraine and old commies farts. they vote for jews that give them GIBS. They vote to be slaves and they drag rest of people with them into their commie-eu wannabe paradise - Ukrainian nationalists are cowards (owned by jews), they were shouting how they hate russians and how the y want to figh againt russians, but when russians came, nationalists started to shit in their pants and run away.
Carson Sanchez
Yes
Josiah Gutierrez
>Russian shills aside
>TFW when you try and make a decent thread but are outed as a cunt within the first 3 words
Russian hacker here, I invalidated your entire election and you're stupid enough to believe it.
Ian Rodriguez
honestly no one cares about any of the cyka blyat subhumans
Ryan Martin
>one former PM with loosely Jewish origins is proof the entire government is Jewish
>hope this is enough =) you're honestly really stupid if you think you're proving anything substantial with this. it is not proof for the claim Ukrainian government is Jewish. you should try debate outside of Sup Forums sometime.
>You're the one claiming they're nazis repeatedly ITT. I think you have an obsession a great deal of them are. it's also an argument you Russian shills like to bring up while in the same breath claiming they're Jewish. i am simply covering all bases here to prevent fallacious arguments from Russian shills, and to say that there is nothing wrong with their identification as Nazis, or more suitably, neo Nazis.
>still trying to dodge and failing to address the point. this is sad you have to provide valid citations to support your argument, buddy. you should have learned this in college.
>not really, you just can't come up with a proper response. It must be hard being this wrong describing your geolocation by the basis of a historically massive country doesn't prove anything. it's completely irrelevant.
Camden Scott
It's Soros' playland.
Ian James
Don't put words in my mouth I symphatize with Ukraine
Nathan Collins
You keep making this thread, so it looks like you're the shill. Fuck off, no gibs for you
Isaac James
can't wait until the Ukrainian government exterminates every last of you Russo traitors desu
Gavin Harris
I love Ukraine. Right wing, racially-aware, anti-communist, neo-Nazi, history of fighting Mudslimes. The people of Sup Forums hate Ukraine because it's fun to be Putin's cocksucker, even though Putin himself is a Jew puppet, like all leaders. People who say stupid shit like: need to consider the fact that most of Europe is controlled by kikes, so there is nothing special about Ukraine. Should still be part of Russia though, as an equal rather than a subject, as well as Belarus.
Jace Robinson
We don't need another Poland in the EU who leech money like a parasite but is not willingly to support the EU so fuck off Ukraine.
Luis Phillips
>Ukraine has a much longer history than it. Maybe if you overdosed on ukie propaganda - it is. >reviving your people's ancient tongue This is literally some we wuz shit. What ancient tongue? Ukrainian is a polonized version of old Ruthenian. Just read any writting from Rus' times, doesn't sound like Ukrainian at all.
Blake Jenkins
Correction, it is 40 millions at best.
Tyler Garcia
>San Diego doesn't get to hold a referendum and become part again of Mexico. lel. This overcompensation is quite funny, do go on. You are literally Europe's Mexico, full of drugs, whores and mutants. What is an average monthly salary in your shithole again?
The reason everyone hates you is because you are a LARPing Mexico, trying to build a wall on US border, robbing your own population to get the money for the wall, and stealing all the money in the process. Fucking nigger tier country.
Ian Reed
Yeah! Fuck Poland, how dare they not want to commit mass suicide with us after they finally regained their freedom after all those years... oh wait.
Wyatt Fisher
...
Andrew Allen
I know a Ukrainian and he always tell me how his family can't survive there with out support from him becouse they only earn like 100-200 euro a month. Also he told me what a corrupt shithole it is and how you need to be scared of the gonverment.
Jordan Jenkins
Ukraine is literally ran by jews and you have the cheek to ask this question on Sup Forums?
Nazis have come and gone, a bunch of Kiborg larpers is not bringing Hitler back. All the while the country is being dismantled and ran into the ground by the current power structure.
And they are being helped by anyone interested in destabilizing a country bordering Russia. Ukraine is a pawn in the global game and will never achieve anything beyond that.
Asher Watson
Ukrainian government is anti-White enough: Jewish, Armenian, Georgian and Tatar subhumans enjoy high state position.
They recognised gypsy, tatar and jew languages as minor languages
You want a real change? Hope for Belitsky getting a FULL EXECUTIV power. Ethnic Russians make almost a half of WhiteNats and racialists in Azov and other real White units
Benjamin Brooks
It's just the Russian paid agitators here sempai.
Eli Wilson
You are a parasite who leech for gibs but are not willingly to support you brothers and money givers, fuck you traitor. I hope we freeze your gibs and force a hand full refugees in your shithole. Also stop stealing our cars faggot.
Gavin Cooper
Fuck Ukrainians
Kevin Evans
Why is Crimea still in this picture?
Lucas Garcia
Redpill me on Ukrainian ethnicity: are they ethnically-different to Russians or are they literally Russians with a fun gender identity?
Jose Turner
It's true. Revolution occurred because of this.
Landon Perez
no memeing, you've convinced me, Ivan.
flag related.
Isaac Fisher
Ukrainians are ethnically British.
Isaiah Stewart
Explains why we all look like this. Come on, Ivan, what's the story about Hohols?
Ethan Reed
>and force You can stop hiding behind that flag now Jürgen. Also you and what army?
Dylan Jones
Ukraine is too bigoted for pol
Jaxson Ortiz
I'm pretty sure that's the Mexican. He uses different proxies when he gets banned. He just post images of little girls all the time. I think he was in the Trump and Syria threads last I saw.
Adrian Peterson
Yes but he said it's still corrupt as fuck, people are scared of license plates with repeating numbers he said becouse it means they are friends of high ranking politicians and fuck you up if you don't give them your parking spot. Also he could enter your border without controle, he just gave the police 10 euros and could enter without it.
Dominic Thompson
We just freeze your gibs then we see.
Jason Morris
The USSR lost the Cold War and these vestigial countries are trying to be with the winners. They will tell anything just to be with the winners, money and success, that they are ethnically British, French, American, praised Hitler but the evil commies oppressed them and so forth.
Carter Miller
Western Ukrainians are Russians with Polish admixture, clean Whites. To the East of Kiev, it's Russians or Russian-Armenian-Crimean Tatar-Jew mongrels
Jordan Lopez
For me because it stands in the way of Russia becoming an empire again. They are the most important part.
Owen Hall
Banderites, cheap labour, russianboos, corruption and whores. Here, summed Ukraine for you.
Landon Brown
I can't see why Ukrainians wouldn't want to be with Russia; they're the same people with very interconnected history and culture. I don't know why they wouldn't want to unite with their kin.
Grayson Ramirez
>Ukraine has a much longer history than it. >Burger education Ukaine was never a nation until 1991 when USSR collapsed on god knows what grounds. Ukraine was always just a place un Russia and a historical capital of Kievan Rus which later mutated into Russian empire.
Ukraine has been a proud sovereign nation for like 23 years lol.
Ukraine for Russia is pretty much what Calexit would be for US if California actually left the states.
Josiah Thomas
Because Russia is a sinking ship.
Jace Davis
>Revolution occured How fucking delusional are you, hohol? Your country got used as a condom and thrown away in what is now resurfacing as your true identity: utter garbage.
Hunter Ortiz
The name "Rus" comes from Kievan Rus. Kievan Rus broke up in 1240. By the 16th century the name "Rusins" or "Ruthenians" were used by locals in Ukraine. People who call themselves now "Russians" were Muscovites.The name "Ukrainian" appeared in an attempt to separate from those shit-tier "Russians".
Juan Nguyen
>actually stopped hiding kek
Also you guys fail to realise at this point we do not give shit about money. I bet Merkele will be seriously suprised when we will still say no and leave EU (which in turn will really hurt German economy as we are one of your most important trading partners believe it or not... we buy a lot from you guys). ... so yeah, bring it.
I love Ukraina and russia but our new gaverment are shit and our prezident is a moldova romanian jew aligarx from prindestrovia and prim ministur is azirbijan jew turk thet dont care about Ukraina and slavs so i laft since i lost evreything and whan the fuck in our Kiev rus history a xazar jew control ukrainian slavs ???
Fuck Ukraina i was rised bandera now i Am a russian russafil ratnik now !!!!!
In the end you gona anderstend thet no place is beter then mother land
And endup speaking russian with your Wife and kids
Lincoln Adams
Corruption lever is still hight, but much less than in 2014. >people are scared of license plates with repeating numbers Kek, this is bullshit. Where is he from? >Also he could enter your border without controle, he just gave the police 10 euros and could enter without it. totally bullshit
Oliver Sanders
Why would anybody want to be with Russians is the real question.
The reason why so many EE countries look up to the west is because they consider it to be more orderly and successful, they want to learn from them how to be like this. Russia? Russia is personification of all the problems the region has, Ukraine is hyperbole for it. Rampant alcoholism, corruption that at this point is institutionalized, junkies, AIDS, oligarchs ruling the country etc. etc.
Parker Hernandez
>Fuck Ukraina i was rised bandera now i Am a russian russafil ratnik now !!!!!
Jackson Ramirez
Why don't you come back home nepilsoņi ?
Joseph Powell
How come they have their own language then?
Adam Adams
You would be the fucked one, don't be silly and think you have a chance outside the EU. With who you gonna trade? With Ukraine? Kek
Ryan Rivera
PL is more of a Western country anyway imo, just like CZ. only difference between PL and a country like Germany is you have enough pride in tradition to not cuck yourselves.
Isaiah Myers
He is from Kiev and I believe him since he isn't the kind of guy who lie and he has no reason to do it.
