I was trying to debate a liberal Jew today.
He made me look like a complete idiot because he always went and asked me "what is race" and "what is marriage" and being annoying in that way. Just like in fucking Mein Kampf. Like just as he describes it. But I couldn't simply expose him for being a jew because "oy vey ad hominem" and the fact that it was in Berkeley.
Teach me senpai how to debate the jew without pointing him out directly.
Sounds like you need to figure out what you think race and marriage are. If you're going to be something as stupid as a white nationalist learn to defend your arguments.
Become the jew
I can't. I'm a goyim for life.
hey christfag, what do you define marriage as?
What would you say to this guy about marriage?
Learn from Poles, user
forgot pic
just formulate your points into bullshit rhetorical questions like they did
he also claimed that Europe is Jewish land
I don't have to define shit, I'm not the one losing arguments to Jews because I didn't come prepared.
why no subtitles?
>defining yourself with the words of the jew
For one, don't call yourself goyim. The jew may call you that but don't use their words, don't play their game. Now that we have that covered. You should do your research and be able to define those terms. Just be careful and don't let him just keep asking questions till you reach exhaustion. Its a dirty technique
well what if a Jew did confront you user?
sounds like you should just stick the hugbox which is Sup Forums and leave real life for the adults
You don't debate Jews, they can't be debated, they use the most disgusting forms of argument.
Why are you even talking to kikes? You can't give kikes the same playing level as you.
this kike in particular was my pre-natsoc (((friend))).
Read this for more press.uchicago.edu
It explains the evolution of modern Jew rhetoric and their invasion of academia. You must not engage them when they start to reduce arguments into, "The word arbitrary is arbitrary!" This is critical theory.
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Step 1 is realizing objectivity is necessary for civilization
Step 2 is realizing objectivity isn't provable
Step 3 is realizing you need to assert objectivity into abstract concepts by the degree of their functionality
Everything else flows from there
I'd state my world view and my philosophy, but as a Christian Libertarian I'm actually ready for questions like what is race and what is marriage.
weird, I didn't get those. Maybe I didn't watch it far enough yet.
"of course a liberal jew isn't going to understand race and marriage so why would you think your opinion on these things matter?"
well help a fellow christian out then.
It is too late. Whether you like it or not, we are living in a borderline communist country and you can fucking feel it everywhere.
> b-but muh gommies support eguality and gibmegrants
World does not end on those issues.
As the user quoted told you, do not debate them and simply call them out as a Jew.
>opponent asks you to define your terms
>you cant
>you lose the debate
He made you look like a complete idiot because you are one
Yeah he totally said that. Just another larp thread
Is your name Haman?
>I am so stupid and so racist, just like you guys
>Jews are so smart for real man
kek. no he actually said that. idk where he got that idea from, maybe he was trying to ridicule the idea of "a people's land"
Ask him if he thinks crypto is a bubble or not
The Jews aren't the Game, the Game is the game. You're zoomed in too tight
There is a joke in Russian
> Are you a Jew?
> Why are you asking?
The punchline is that the Jews like replying with questions. That can be countered by pointing it out.
just flip it back on him and when he tries to answer like a retard or doesn't and says no you, you then say well what does it mean to be religious then? what is a christian, what is a jew?
Kk bb I got you. Here's a 3 step plan for dealing with Jews in a Christian way.
>1st Treat them like anyone else
You're supposed to love your neighbor and love your
>2nd Quit worrying about what they're up to.
If it's theft murder or enslavement report it to the authorities otherwise you have better things to do.
>3rd Live your life in pursuit of Christ
Study the bible, go to church, start a family, the basic growing up life stuff. Jesus said "How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?"
That's the Christian answer, I'm sure some Socialists and ethno nationalists will call me some names for it, but seriously do that and you'll have a better life, I guarantee it.
Nah, I think you're just a pompous idiot. OP is a fag too.
and love your enemy*
If someone is debating Krav Maga style (relentless attack on any perceived weakness) you need to adopt the same style. Or knock them out with one blow, punch-out artist style (metaphorically). Either way it will be a pointless argument.
LOL, and what are you? Some kind of Cuck who want's the bigger stronger Muslim and Mexican men to take care of your wife on cold nights?
Maybe the time for arguments has stopped, and we should just shut up about it, and win by making white children and making ourselves better physically and mentally rather than play with the kikes in their own game?
>what is race"
Phenotype; a biological reality, not a social construct.
>what is marriage
Some Jew bullshit created to enslave men. At times a necessary evil for the procreation of our race.
Shut the fuck up, Sholo.
Sounds like you didn't know what you're talking about honestly. Doesn't matter if you're right or wrong when you can't articulate yourself. Don't blame the other guy, work on you.
*Shlomo
Fucking keyboards designed by Japs.
or to put otherwise (pic related)
Why do so many of you faggots just say nigger and Jew and read Hitler's diary instead of actually researching every topic you form an opinion on deeply.
It's not like you will change your opinions much, the science and history support us.
Marriage is a Christian institution which was appropriated and degraded by the government.
Race is a term for groups of individuals with closely matched genetics, it's a general term but not negligible either. A race can split into two, or merge into one, though generally the merger causes many beneficial recessive or epistatic genes to be lost.
maybe I don't, so I'm looking to learn.
>jew answers a question with a question
dont waste your time
Basically, why waste time with people not worth your time when you could be the best you can be for the sake of your own children.
>How to debate a Jew?
Well, I hate to break it to you, but not like you normally do.
Not sure how many of you faggots do this, but whether you're playing a game online, buying shit at the store or talking about vegetables there is a fucking annoying pattern of memes fanaticism and disinfo.
Anyone you everwant to debate just DON'T fucking use infographs from Sup Forums. Don't use arguments worded for Sup Forums and for fuck's sake don't go full "the niggers and the Jews111!!" throwing an angry autistic rant.
It's cringeworthy. Try to at least fucking use Sup Forums arguments but with info you've researched yourself outside of this website. I'm not saying Sup Forums is wrong, but that shit just isn't right.
Lazy ass fucks need to study harder, more time researching history, and medical research journals, and less time jerking off on YouTube to Lauren Southern
I seen a buzzfeed article where a guy was getting uppity over a gay pride related issue, and he fully derailed in white genocide and tried using green text. I almost commented on his original comment, saw how quickly he jumped into white genocide when confronted, and saw the green text and noped out of that shit
Lol, why is a white supremacist using a Japanese keyboard? and, outside of a driver glitch or spell check(which has nothing to do with a keyboard) I thing you just have bad typing skills, don't worry though I'm dyslexic as well
Just define your terms pre debate, you should always know in your mind what you think the things you support are, but if you need to just stop the conversation to agree on a definition once a concept is brought up. Either one of these will prevent most jewry. Btw: Scientifically race is a collection of certain genetic traits that are similar throughout a certain population (bone size, facial structure, testosterone levels, intellectual capability) that are distinct in a certain population. Marriage is traditionally a legal union between a man and a woman designed to encourage monogamy and fertility.
pic sorta related, another common Jewish tactic to watch out for
Don't memorize and regurgitate pol taking points, that will just leave you high and dry when the conversation leaves a prepared topic. Also, being an opinion regurgitator is brain dead.
Develop critical thinking skills. This isn't something you can really be told how to do in one thread. Read lots of news from left and right biases, believe none of it. Listen to as many conflicting opinions as you can, don't copy any, crop together the bits you agree with. Yes, even leftist stuff, you need a broad store of perspectives. Its much much easier to argue for something you decided yourself.
I proposed a somewhat more narrow definition of race, that is haplogroups. He said "well, if we go far enough into DNA then we are all the same"
if you really want to learn how to defeat a Jew in debate, start with Christians. if you can de-convert a hardened believer using logical arguments, you're well on your way to defeating the kike.
Yeah he's just being a retard. No one agrees with that premise. That's like saying all computer programs do the same thing cause it's all 1s and 0s
Well, he's right. A lot of those concepts are hard to define, and defining them in a black and white manner could lead to things like political violence in the future.
Take a look at modern art, for example. When most people make fun of modern art, they usually mean things like putting placenta on canvas or turning a toilet upside down. However, complaining about it to a certain point makes it a black and white case of banning "all" of modern art, including famous pieces like the Scream or Vincent Van Gogh who are classified into the same movement. Suddenly, an album that influenced all of rock music like the Velvet Underground & Nico would be banned because it is psychedellia which is under modern art.
This line of thinking applies to a bunch of other concepts. You can't really generalize complicated things like culture/race/tribalism because there are many environmental factors to what makes a person think how he/she does in a civilization.
The problem isn't him not being able to define marriage. It's him taking the question seriously. Asking people to define extremely basic shit on the spot is an old as fuck trick. He should've just brushed it off, giving his sympathies for growing up in a broken home or telling him to read up before he tries to discuss things.
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Yes goy, don't debate the Jew, debate the Christian, turn him into a nihilistic atheist, that will definitely be a better use of your time, forget about little ol' me
>What is marriage
It is a 3 way contract, where as a relationship is a two way contract. By bringing in society and religious institutions in validating the bond, it strengthens it with much more permanence than a contract just between two individuals
>what is race
Don't be a dumbass racist. There's no real valid justification for racism. Only valid criticism is that multi-culturalism does not work, and that studies have shown that diverse communities have weaker bonds and less trust and interaction with their neighbors. Focus on the fact that "humans are flawed, and have a natural distrust for those that look and speak different than themselves". Ask if they've ever been to a vastly different country than themselves, and if they felt more comfortable asking locals or other Westerners for help. If they tell you the former, they are lying and call them out for it.
lol this is the most elementary philosophy-major trick in existence: pose questions with subjective abstract answers, then pick at every tiny aspect of whatever the other person says.
>but you can't prove that's what race is
>but marriage is an inherently oppressive institution, like you literally can't disagree with that
>hahaha like literally, you literally cannot separate whiteness from hierarchies of oppression. Like you literally cannot do it.
You lost because your ideas are flawed. He didn't make you look like an idiot, you already are an idiot. Lel
>he doesn't know what race and marriage are
Give him the dictionary definition, it's not even hard.
Debating Jews is easy since you can always expose him for using Jewish tactics. The trick is you don't call them Jewish tactics.
You genuinely can not argue with somebody like that in a traditional fashion. I assumed you weren't too intelligent before but that type of kike shit gets anybody off guard. In the future respond with an even greater absurdity to demonstrate the useless and nit-picking nature of his argument. Make it follow the same logic as his comment so as to make the only logical responses rejecting his previous remark or agreeing with yours: example- "if we go far enough into DNA then we are almost the same as chimpanzees"
you tell him to stick to the topic, you dont let him derail you with irrelevant questions even a firstgrader could answer. and if he asks more irrelevant questions you ask him what is metzitzah bpeh´?
> questions your ideas
> instead of proving your ideas are actually valid you just give up
> you still want respect as a thinker
Lol. Get a trade, give up, you're not capable of anything intellectual.
>some students called it ridiculous
Yes, (((some students))).
How to make yourself look stupid:
> if we go far enough into DNA then we are almost the same as chimpanzees
hahahahhahaha
ironically he will actually accept that.
That's the point my dude
Hahaha, some Jew came into a party I was at in high school and I started playing the Nazi anthem - the kid literally had an autistic tantrum yelling "SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN!" I never laughed so hard in my life.
autistic and i bet your friend group is like 3-4 "edgy" kids
Yea, definitely time to better yourself mentally. If you'd done this in the first place, you wouldn't be a neonazi.
kek
> i'm not a neo-nazi degenerate
Nah, the 3-4 kids swinging the school their weed and LSD.
You're just butt hurt you didn't have friends.
It isn't called "race" anymore its called "macro haplotype." Heh. Tell him that.
Sure. Whatever you think m8.
> dumb as fuck
> can't argue points
> nazi flag
> thinks in terms of 'the jews'
> not a neonazi
One of those is not like the others
fucking moron i had 3-4 edgy friends, get with the program. they may have been faggots but at least they were drug dealers
still better friends than tyrone and the cripps
You're on the autism spectrum for sure.
> three boys sitting around a computer watching porn and drinking dads beers
> tells everyone it was a 'party'
Sorry user, I didn't understand you. But yeah, I got you. They weren't brilliant, but good enough to be discrete, plus I redpilled them.
I didn't know my dad. Say that to me IRL not on the internet, faggot.
WRONG
atleast in russia they look down upon the dealers. they keep scoring the target nowadays.
is actually right, but you should have honestly been able to answer the question of "What is Race?" It is the scientifically proven classification of Humans into common groups based upon blood (genetics) and culture (ancestry, societal similarities), manifesting itself in the various unique physical and mental properties of these "groups", or races. As for marriage, I shouldn't need to explain it to you. Learn from this experience, and be prepared for next time; but that does not mean you give them the opportunity for a 'next time'.
Don't answer their questions, always answer a Jew's question with another question.
By making you feel like you're beholden to explain and answer his queries you lost the upper hand and started working for him.
marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman
it's that easy
You guys might as well admit that the Jews are so clever that they're the master race then.
implying a jew knows what's sacred
Excellent advice, but even this is not far enough. The time will come when we need to take the fight to them.
Why will that time come?
Now you're locked into a 15 minutes off-topic debate with a jew having no sense of sanctity asking about the nature of that and accusing you of being homophobic or some other stupid shit.
Either shame someone for using dishonest rhetorical tricks, there's a small chance it may make them quit, or just don't talk to them. You'll never get anywhere discussing things with a person(jew) who doesn't want to get anywhere.
care to a demonstration? you are a believer, yes?
I've never seen more smart people in one place than this board. Nice memes tho
lol fuck off you shitposting cunt
Left-right politics are often represented as leftists being "progressives", that is, seeking to change the status quo, and conservatives seek to preserve it, hence the names. In fact it's just the opposite. Leftism is carefully designed psychological manipulation designed almost entirely around the thoughts and behaviors of white men, who are the only ones mentally and physically strong enough to overthrow (((them))). Hence the emphasis on turning everyone into a good goy that loves multiculturalism.
Notice how the Jews are not the ones collaborating to overcome their challenges in a constructive and mutually beneficial manner. The only time you will find Jews collaborating is when they are trying to further their own interests at someone else's expense. That is the foremost reason why they are not the Master Race.
>proving your ideas are actually valid
They will never give you that luxury, such debates are pointless.
Just laugh off their arguments and respond with questions, throw everything back in their face, and claim victory. Doesn't matter if you even think you won, by claiming victory you are just getting ahead of the game because that's what (((they))) do.
It's easy to play rhetorical games, you don't even need to know anything about a subject to (((debate))) it, just use the standard tricks.
>locked into a debate
Why? Claiming victory is the key, it will piss them off and make them lose their cool.
Marry their women and brainwash your hybrid offspring to take them down! The Jewness is passed through the mother! This is our only hope at survival you have no idea how bad it really is!!!!
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