Is he right? Is coal really not coming back?
Never was gonna. Nice try though
>First New Coal Mine of Trump Era Opens in Pennsylvania
insider.foxnews.com
What did he mean by this?
It is back
Coal is shit
Nuclear is the future.
Coal is a fucking meme that literal retards like believe, but then again what do (You) expect from a leaf...
coal won't go away until nuclear is finally accepted
>Coal is a fucking meme that literal retards like believe, but then again what do (You) expect from a leaf...
did you forget the part where thousands if not millions of trumpanzees voted for trump because he was bringing muh coal jobs back?
even the coal industry doesnt want coal anymore
im waiting until we don need oil for the majority of our vehicles and machinery
will probably cause world war 3 in the middle east since the entire continent is built on western development for oil.
My whole thing is even if it's not hurting the environment (let's not start this again) the jobs just don't exist anymore. Machines do 90% of the labor. They only need like a dozen or so people to supervise. It just doesn't seem economically viable to even try to save it.
>First few minutes, Trump does shoveling gesture.
>HUR IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A HONEST DAYS WORK DON'T MIMIC IT THAT'S NOW HOW YOU MINE COAL!
thats how you shovel belt, signed, fucking former coal miner.
>Gee this job pays my bills.
>Whats that Obama? You want to take my job away, and raise my insurance to $800 a month.
>Thanks Obama.
Fuck birds too. They are harming my investments.
But the jobs were going away on there own. Obama did contribute from regulations to not let people die as easily. But the coal jobs were on their way out.
ahahaha a fucking coal miner what are the odds, even trash-men have a more respectable job
>le
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It never left. It still generates more of our electricity than any other energy source. This "coal is dead" meme is a narrative to undermine Trumps efforts to support the industry while simultaneously push their climate change propaganda. Just more crap to feed to uneducated millennials with childlike grasps on environmentalism and resource management so they'll go vote democrat to "save the planet".
I'm from Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada.
Our coal used to heat North America.
The last three decades of the 20th Century it ALL went away. Gone.
However, literally this year they reopened a mine and my dad is even working there.
So I dunno man.
Its leaving from forces like cheaper, cleaner, and safer natural gas. Dont forget about the automation . Also coal jobs have been declining ever since machines were used.
Yeah! It's Obama's fault!
Yeah because fag oliver knows anything about industry
Jobs may decline due to automation, but coal is still very relevant.
But not for long. Its only a matter of time before we switch to natural gas or something better we are going to leave thousands of provides jobless.
Sup Forums talks a lot about burning coal, so it must be doing okay
criminally underrated image
Not true. Running a joy full face miner takes 5 guys. 1 in the loader, 2 buggies, 2 outby bolters, and a boss.11 guys per section per shift
I make $40 an hour, and get 10 hours of overtime a week. I have a 50 acre farm, 3 sons and a stay-at-home wife.
Tell me more about how you're saving the white race by shit posting about pokemans all day though
he is faker than cnn all his "facts" are wrong
So why are libtards chimping out then? Coal miners don't expect Trump to subsidize coal, just remove regulations.
Coal industry is dying for good reason and it's a known shitty workplace
That said, love me steam locomotives so coal has it's uses (others also)
That's actually a good one. I've been wrestling with the idea that even though teleportation will reassemble your body, your own consciousness does not
>future
we live in the present and coal and oil is cheap and works now put your leaf back on
Theres plenty of developing countries to sell coal to
I don't think anybody is chimping out except disgruntled coal miners. Trump promised to bring back jobs and they just aren't there. Deregulation just makes it so a dying industry can do as much damage as possible before it finally croaks.
ive heard starbucks doesnt want coffee anymore. and best buy sells art supplies now
Dude your job is completely respectable. Lost both my grandfathers in a coal mine, grew up knowing alot of coalminers and was lucky enough to have a father that survived it but was in and out of work so much it turned me against it. That kept me from going into work in one, well that and a mother that would have been broken hearted. Cheers dude. Thanks for what ya do. From southwest VA
? coal literally came back
> new mines already
why duds john oliver hate facts and lack intelligence?
>>b-b-b-b-but solar power doesn't harm the environment
coal isn't going anywhere unless some alternative energy source comes out of nowhere to replace it. Natural gas certainly is better than coal, but you still need coal for most of the electricity produced. its true that the shovel and pickaxe jobs aren't coming back due to automation, but there are still alot of jobs that could be done in the future.
>get to use sweet teleportation technology
>get to switch the track onto 5 helpless victims
I don't see any downsides
You try making steel without coal then
also, we need more BAGGER 288s
Jeez. This video could probably be condensed to about five minutes and still provide the same information and arguments that actually interest me. The time-wasting jokes are lame and forced. I don't have the patience to watch this in its entirety.
You know it's used to make steel, right?
I wish I knew better before I started. I tried to quit 2 years ago, but the moneys too good and the environment is relaxed. You can talk about anything you want underground. No women or non whites at my mine. It sucks when someone gets injured though, and it's rough on your body.
Fuck liberals for making back breaking labor the only job I feel comfortable doing, because I don't want to deal with diversity
The major developing countries are trying to stop their addiction to coal.
The African teir are trying to start becoming more greener since running a coal plant is harder then a solar or wind.
Because everyone will mysteriously stop barbecuing you fucking retards
"Kingsford Charcoal, for example, by far the most popular brand in the US, is made up of bits of charcoal, coal, starch (as a binder), sawdust, and sodium nitrate"
>its true that the shovel and pickaxe jobs aren't coming back due to automation, but there are still alot of jobs that could be done in the future.
>citation needed
What could you possibly be talking about? The reason coal was such a reliable source of income 100 years ago is BECAUSE the only way you could mine was manually. Automation has replaced those jobs with machines and deregulation just makes it easier for companies to work with as few people as possible.
What are these new jobs you're talking about?
LNG is a better investment. We'll have coal around for a while though.
Yeah man, I bet the environment makes up for a shit load. Probably more of a bond in ways than military men etc
wouldn't it be fun to watch this smug cunt get beaten to death by the same coal miners he wants impoverish?
Anyone who advocates outsourcing American jobs ought to get drawn and quartered imo
charcoal is not coal. charcoal is made by burning wood in a way that tries to remove as much oxygen as possible to build up chunks of pure carbon. you can use coal in place of charcoal i guess, but its usually made from a different process. I don't know if i've ever heard of anyone using mined coal for smelting, i'm sure its possible though.
These industries are depended on coal. But energy really what makes coal valuable dont forget, these industries can get 3rd world coal. which lowers our demand and in return lowers the amount of workers.
Kingsford literally says it's made from charcoal AND coal.
machines need people to operate them, repair them, coal needs to be cleaned, processed, shipped, there is the administration side of coal business.
the implicit point i was making was that if coal production increases, then more people will get jobs in the coal industry, automation aside.
>these industries can get 3rd world coal.
from countries where they play shit wages and have no environmental or safety regulations.
you can fuck right off
Coal is only going out of business because natural gas is super cheap. When we run out of natural gas we will go right back to using coal until we run out of coal as well.
Coal is not green, goyim. That means it's evil.
You spend 10 hours a day 5 days a week with the same guys. It's pretty cool
Hey don't blame me, blame the free market, its sucks but the few who are lucky to be born in the wining side get the most benefit.
Its really a lose lose situation in this case.
I couldnt give lesser of a shit about appalachian hicks
I say let the inbred rednecks mine their coal, and wipe themselves out. It's not like they're contributing much to the gene pool anyway.
You ever jerk each other off deep down there in those cold dark shafts? You know...circle jerk? The military do it.
Fucking cucked by ip can't view in my country. Somebody post hooked link.
Also yea coal takes billions of years to form so it's not coming back.
Is there a stockpile of these moral/ethical conundrums somewhere? I genuinely love these.
>the implicit point i was making was that if coal production increases, then more people will get jobs in the coal industry, automation aside.
We're talking about job numbers in the thousands, not millions. Some people could make a living and a handful of executives would also get filthy rich- it's still not bringing the jobs back anywhere close to the numbers they once were.
What I don't understand is what you get out of defending it. It's just a bad economic strategy.
>t the few who are lucky to be born in the wining side get the most benefit
Now everyone as a whole loses as now you have impoverished people in both the 3rd and 1st world.
Increasing domestic production helps everyone in their respective countries. Outsourcing jobs to 3rd world shit holes keeps those country shitty AND makes the 1st world worse off.
Free marketeer autists should be able to understand what a "hidden cost" is and why outsourcing and mass immigration that drive down wages and living standards are bad, but apparently they're too busy smoking weed to even try and stimulate whatever brain cells they have left to form a cognitive thought that isn't just parroted Friedmanite propaganda.
Probably not
The most common job in america is driving, and those jobs will pretty much be all gone forever in not too many years. Can't wait for trump to start trying to stop those jobs from leaving. Make Drivers Monkeys Again
You say that till you're having rolling blackouts because your power company decided to not burn coal.
... you lost me nigger that's an open cut mine you got there.
Free market created trade agreements that shipped job overseas. Learn something new here everytime I come
where do you think solar panels come from?
>hurr technological improvement causes trade deficits
Nothing is worse than these psuedo economists pretending they have any idea what they're talking about
We know that in some situations free markets are bad. But we literal cant do anything to companies without being called communists. Its either the government puts a plan to stop companies from getting poverty coal.
Or the jobs will be lost. and judging from the trump, i honestly dont know what he's going to choose, Big business, or pleasing his constituents.
But see here's the thing. As long as there's coal, there's coal related jobs. From the power company to the train drivers and coal car loaders to whoever is digging it out of the ground. Southern power plants have literal mountains of coal they're bulldozing into the plant constantly and more shows up steadily to replinish the mountain. Coal isn't going anywhere until there's no more coal to be had.
>lets rape planet in hopes that technology will outrace our destruction
Why? I don't understand, why not invest in Nuclear energy which is both cleaner and far superior?
>Durrrr it will explode :(
>You say that till you're having rolling blackouts because your power company decided to not burn coal.
Somebody talking about me? Are my ears burning or is that just the sound of deregulation?
Not quite scooping what you're pooping
Because until nuclear plants are built and manned and everything works A-okay from then on, we'll have to stick with what works in the moment. That being coal and oil.
Why not skip the middleman and fucking go Nuclear?
Here, I'll spell it out for you nice and slow
>But we literal cant do anything to companies without being called communists
who cares what a bunch of neoliberals think?
They're called "free trade" agreements for a reason
Although China hardly imports any of our products, but that's fine because they "deserve" to have all our industrial jobs shipped over there, because Americans are white racist nazis or something.
>Coal isn't going anywhere until there's no more coal to be had.
Unless it's not profitable to mine it.
Remember how all of those steps involved costs money to carry out? Unless you plan on paying them in lumps of coal.
Can't fight cheaper energy. Repealing regulations demanding greener coal will slow, but not stop, coal from shrinking to an increasingly niche market.
This argument would fucking work if anyone, including Trump, would actually try to build and man them in the first place.
Nuclear energy is such a gay ass fucking taboo right now that no one is even fucking attempting to do that shit.
His wife knows all about burning coal.
You are out of your mind if you think I'm going to click that link you fucking kike shill
I always thought free market meant no government intervention. You guys are very educational
I didn't bring up trade deficits. Jobs are leaving because of automation, they will not be coming back and will not be replaced. This isn't a case of candle makers transitioning to light bulb makers.
That is a copper mine you gigantic faggot.
I knew Trump browsed Sup Forums
Republicans dont want regulations and trump certainly wont do it.
But if they all agreed or most of them, then it might work, or companies might move overseases . Only one way to find out.
Depends on whether or not leftists are successful at destroying civilization or not.
Of course coal is a dead industry.
guess im now a hillary cellery
because it's more efficient now, those 50k people power 20% of the US. It would only take 250k people to power the entire US instead of the millions it currently employs
Not watching it.
No money for inbred beedy eyed britfags who think they can fly across the ocean and lecture us on account of having a pompous accent. Eat shit and die.
Nah man, didn't you know? We have to control the market instead of trying to actually fucking compete and innovate.
USA does not need significantly more coal than it mines right now, unless you want to have fucking CHINA levels smog all around you, like a literal shitstorm.
Of course (((they))) don't want you to advocate and create things that will fuck up the current Zionist controlled energy industry.
Trumplets can not grasp automation or any other sort of progress.
They want to live in the 20th century.
>no government intervention
Yes, good luck running your ancap larpfest
>Jobs are leaving
The very existence of a trade deficit presupposes jobs being lost to outsourcing, not to automation.
You know what a trade deficit is right? It means we are importing more goods than exporting goods. That means we are implicitly, by the very nature of there BEING a trade deficit, outsourcing far more jobs than we are creating domestically.
>Republicans dont want regulations and trump certainly wont do it.
Yeah I'm not very impressed with those idiots lately. Or ever.
Yes. Unfortunately you need a little more than hugs and rainbows in solar cell production, including rare earth elements that China has a global monopoly on.
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