USA NEVER WAS ON THE MOON. SATURN 5 WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO CREATE. ((THEY)) CREATED IT

USA NEVER WAS ON THE MOON. SATURN 5 WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO CREATE. ((THEY)) CREATED IT.

1) youtube.com/watch?v=VsvQDCXWICo

2) serendipity.li/more/myth_of_apollo.htm

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youtube.com/watch?v=FzCsDVfPQqk
americanmoon.org/_main.htm#CaughtInTheAct
youtube.com/watch?v=XtW72nT7cYQ
youtube.com/watch?v=iekIMxKtktA
youtu.be/5KsH2M4m4zM
m.youtube.com/watch?v=c2_xWTSyCuU
youtube.com/watch?v=bPjxXJ04XkU&feature=youtu.be&t=1m51s
youtu.be/51DED8dcNkA
youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ
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Missinfo, they actually went to the moon but the images are Staged and shopped, beacuse someone or something up thefe threatend them to not utter a single word and don't come back...

Up there* threatened* damn phone

of course pol will ignore informative thread.

yeah okay youtube.com/watch?v=FzCsDVfPQqk

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My god! Those space niggers actually did 9/11 the whole time!

nobody is arguing the rocket existed, what I am saying it could not reach the moon and accomplish all technical capabilities they said it can, lurk the link its pretty short.

americanmoon.org/_main.htm#CaughtInTheAct

I believe that we have been to the moon and beyond, but that they created false footage that was released to the public so we don't get to know what's really out there.
Black Budget Projects have created some pretty cool tech that we're not allowed to know about either, so it makes sens that the elite would keep the true knowledge of what's on the moon and Mars to a specialized few.

It is possible and they did it only to discover it is too hard and expensive to keep doing.

they never went beyond the VAN HALEN RADIATION BELTS. They could not go past them in that little shitty cabin because radiation there is so high it would fry them. Not a single living organism from Earth passed them.

Do you honestly believe that Russia wouldn't have exposed US to the world if the moon landing never happened by now?

Also possible, but i just want to belive kek

oh no it's another "40 year old man posts widely debunked infographs and that fucking picture of the lander leg" episode

travel to the moon was both feasible and simple to plan and execute. money, staffing, and time were the only challenges

Soviet Union were always US allies. Who do you think made them?

First spacewalk by Alexey Leonov was faked. Go watch it yourself.

We literally have tech better than TOS Star Trek, we can do this shit.

time you moron its radiation over time you fly through it fast enough and you can then there is no problem.

Because Russian space programs was times shady. For example many more pilots blew up before Gagarin made it. So they both keep silent on mutual things. Like Bush and Putin on 911 and russian house bombings.

THE AMERICAN WOMAN DOLAN GLUMPF CALLED IN SPACE, WHO STANDS TO BE THE SOLE AMERICAN WITH THE LONGEST AMOUNT OF TIME CLOCKED IN SPACE, INTENDS TO RETURN HOME AFTER SPENDING 666 DAYS IN ORBIT.

NOT FUCKING MAKING IT UP

ITS SATAN

I hate that the jews trick you dopes into believing hoaxes :(

Nasa is just a gian Money Laundry scheme,

Giant

>moon landing was f-fake
>literal landing site visible from earth with telescopes

Notice Neil Armstrong NEVER GAVE AN INTERVIEW with somebody else alone and not in the room filled by fucking fbi agents and government workers.

youtube.com/watch?v=XtW72nT7cYQ

Just look at this man, he is fucking ASHAMED to be claiming something he never did.
Watch doco and read the link. Its well done and explained.

>Made by rovers on the moon and not people
> the "laser" mirror also put there much later.

Okay so all this massive information have miracously been suppressed from the public after all these years? Tbh it sounds more far fetched than ayy lmaos have bases on the moon.

It's Van Allen you fucking retard. How can anyone take you seriously if you can't even get the name right?

In Russian we pronounce it differently.

Governments suppress information. This is true. Additional examples are holocaust and human trafficking.

But you do realize that they built a massive rocket that went to outer space, right? I mean, that's not even something you can deny. So what do you think happened exactly. These astronauts did not even train? They were just actors? They went on the rocket for what? To just go to space as part of the moon landing hoax? For what purpose bro... that's why this conspiracy never made any damn sense. It's easier to train for and attempt than fake it all. It's not a coincidence that german scientists and engineers came here and U.S. went to the moon not much later. We had people smart enough to pull off such a feat.

Im not denying they built it, but in the second link the author talks why they could not achive this rocket, it was simply impossible to create it with LISTED specs. And nowadays NASA says they cant recreate it because "lost" technology top kek. NASA built the saturn 5 rocket. The best rocket in EXISTANCE in 7 years with NO PREVIOUS experience in building rockets without ANY FAILURES and they went straight to the fucking moon.

They flew pretty far away from the earth, made some laps alround the wider orbit in their stupid cabin and returned back.

So they could shoot the thing into space, they could land the thing back on Earth, but for some reason they couldn't just go to the moon with it

Going to the orbit and doing laps and going to the moon are two different things Sauli. Nasa literally saying they cant send a person to the moon nowadays cos the "lost" technology.

There's no way that Kubrick would film that grainy ass looking footage.

If Kubrick did the moon landing, it would be a masterpiece of cinematography packed full of abstract allegories on the nature of human existence.

Kubrick was no hack. A line as cheesy as "one small step for man" would never fly in one of his productions. Get real, faggot.

I'm sure you don't mind giving a source

watch the doc, its expained that if it was good quality the fucking amateur astronomists would fake call that bullshit right away.

first ling totaly BTFO the footage and second explains why Saturn 5 was not what it was.

Has there been a breach in /x/ containment wall? This is the fucking 6 gorillionth conspiracy thread.

I mean do you have a link for the Nasa statement. Why is landing on the moon so impossibly difficult if you can shoot the tin can into space

youtube.com/watch?v=iekIMxKtktA
youtu.be/5KsH2M4m4zM
m.youtube.com/watch?v=c2_xWTSyCuU

use google stupid fisherman, im not supposed to give u everything on a plate.
>nasa report
its the same as reading 911 official report. top kek

That last video doe

Essentially everything in that link is wrong. NASA did not "take over the Saturn V project from Rocketdyne", the Saturn V was made of many different components which were all built by different companies. Rocketdyne only designed the engines, which had a few developmental problems that were all solved by the company's engineers.

Everything about the Saturn V's specs make complete sense to anyone who actually knows about such things.

Why is it always the same with these kinds of things? Somebody makes some type of wild statement and then when somebody asks for a source, you just turn around and go hurr do ur own research. It's almost like you can't actually back up your shit

must be a literal blind autist? cant see links in the description?

Expensive? Like how much expensive? A Joint operation by every Civilization might have been kickstart 20 such trips.

Which description. Why are you unable to simply provide a link to the source where Nasa states their moon rockets are ~lost technology~

>everything
some details about the parts may be according to (you). The time it took them to create it, test ,without failures and etc it all doesnt add up if u know anything about space programs and how much time it takes.

youtube.com/watch?v=bPjxXJ04XkU&feature=youtu.be&t=1m51s

>destroying technology
>we must go to the mars
>we cant go to the moon
> WE DESTROYED THE FUCKING MULTIBILLION NATIONAL PRIDE TECHNOLOGY.

The F-1 had been in development since 1955, and first flew in 1967. Not unusually or impressively fast at all.

Holy fuck,that's explains why we don't have rover in moon.

no getting one way is easy, getting back is the hard part.

Soviet Union got a rover on the moon too. Does that mean they walked it?

>talking about only an engine
>doesnt realise rocket is many more parts than an engine
>and they all need testing

nasa doesnt launch their fully own rockets and shuttles for 30+ years cos every single one of them BLOW THE FUCK OUT IN THE AIR.

In what way are the rockets lost technology? It's a rocket. I don't really get that part

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getting rover there is not hard, making a SAFE rocket capable of pulling all this shit up there, and then safely returning the moon component on the FIRST TRY EVER is impossible.

>finn finally starts thinking in the right direction
Saturn V rocket never existed with the listed specifications.

Yes it did

Yes, and each of those components was contracted to various aerospace companies and had been in development and testing for 7+ years before actually being flown.

Your link is just someone with a very poor understanding of spaceflight and the Apollo program drawing wild conclusions based on their lack of knowledge.

Impossible to do unless completely controlled by the computer. This doesn't even count radiation problems. Too many factors. Velocity, mass change, fuel consumption. Multiple rocket stages. Entering moon orbit must be calculated. Landing on the moon at perfect location, you're connecting two moving objects together, hard to do manually. One small error and you add another moon crater.

How did they cool the battery on the moon rover? I'm planing on the implementation of a similar device when i oc my comp

Kid are u 16 or what? Im not saying it was done manually (lolt wtf kek)
Rocket of that SIZE, equipment to get this rocket into the AIR, and to get it BACK, is impossible
>testing parts
Challenger was testing parts for 20+ years so fucking what? If u had "knowledge" you would know that the BEST ROCKET EVER CREATED that can not be replicated now DOESNT GET DRAWN, TESTED, TRIED AND LAUNCHED WITHOUT ANY FAILURE IN 7 YEARS.

This is true...
Even this astronaut said it:

Ignore the editing and text

youtu.be/51DED8dcNkA

>Rocket of that SIZE, equipment to get this rocket into the AIR, and to get it BACK, is impossible
The rocket didn't come back.

Shuttle had 1 launch failure in 135 missions, Saturn V had none in 13 missions. A pretty good record overall, but nothing sticks out as unusual about it. You're not really making any sense.

Book never gets mentioned " NASA Mooned America " by Rene' . Tiny L.E.M. lander , dudes with huge backpacks on suits , scale is wtf ?
Also we have Hubble Space Telescope and ground telescopes but we ' just cant see ' the landing sites. Lander left behind ..ect.

God you are a stupid faggot.
>implying we dont have radiation shielding tech
Fucking get necked faggot.

You do realize the Saturn-V wasn't assembled and literally first tested on the Apollo 11 moonshot right?
There are 23 documented unmanned launches in the Apollo program and three "full-up" tests of the Saturn-V booster assembly. The components of the Saturn-V were individually tested in 20 different launches before the Apollo 11 moonshot as well, they even considered a 'Super-Jupiter' cluster booster instead of the Saturn-V but it was decided it had the possibility to suffer failures related to it's cluster design. They were correct because the Soviet N1 was a goddamn cluster fuck of a design and it's only distinction is causing the largest explosion that wasn't a fucking nuclear bomb.
Hell Apollo 1 burned on the launchpad and they took nearly a year to redesign the launch capsule, pretty certain if it was a hoax they wouldn't burn up three astronauts and delay for a year. I'm also fairly certain the Soviet Union wouldn't have designed and built the N1 rocket and suffered a series of expensive failures, hell after glasnost the world learned of and was able to see the remains of the entire Soviet lunar program and learned that the N1's surviving first stage engines were still in storage and are still being used to this day.

Consider again its vital statistics. Its five F-1 engines delivered a mighty 7.6 million pounds of take-off thrust and could lift 300,000 pounds into Earth orbit. Its record of reliability was matchless: ten trouble-free lift-offs and no failures — perfect. It was — and remains — the greatest rocket ever built. Even if NASA never returned to the Moon and brought its ambitions closer to home, the corner-piece of its space program would surely be the Saturn V. If nothing else, it would be ideal for carrying large satellites into space and would therefore have enormous commercial potential, far outstripping any of its rivals for load capacity, reliability and cost. With the Saturn V dwarfing every other rocket built by man, the USA would surely take the opportunity to recoup some of the cost of its space research and cash in on its achievements. Well you'd think so wouldn't you?

What NASA actually did was scrap it. After the Apollo missions, the Saturn V made only one more flight. In 1973 it was used to launch Skylab into orbit. Skylab itself was made out of a section of a Saturn V booster. Then the Saturn became history.

Isn't there something wrong here? What on earth was NASA playing at? It had just sweated blood creating the finest rocket ever seen, giving it almost limitless potential for the future, then decides to scrap it and use its spare parts for a space station! It's comparable to a racehorse owner who, having brought on the finest thoroughbred ever and seen it win every race in its first season, decides the best plan is to turn it into dog-meat.

those digits

youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ

If Neil Armstrong walked on the moon first, how did they film him getting off the rocket from that angle? Wouldn't the camera dude have been first? Or whoever set up the equipment or whatever it was???

If this were true the 400,000 people involved would have to keep their mounts shut

one of the points. Its all fake.

No. They thought it was real as they were external source controlled by a black budget division of the then ncl DOE being run by the military and CIA and most of them were alcoholics happy to get through another payday drunk without being fired. Man has never trespassed beyond LEO.

The camera was on the rover that they dropped there and they had the camera going the whole time.

This is a retarded excuse

If something happened up there what exactly do they do with 1-3 missing world famous astronauts?

Think before parroting things. Critical thinking is a skill.

youtube.com/watch?v=XtW72nT7cYQ

I know how every trick was done as an Amerikan m8's senile ex-spook relative was involved and I would converse with him for hours and he would babble everything.

You are really a fucking dullard retard.

This doesn't prove anything. How many people have supposedly blown the whistle on this and it remains a conspiracy theory? There was even a show on Fox in prime time some years ago.

It's because interest in space travel waned after the initial few moon landings, combined with economic downturns and a general shitty feeling of the American public in the early 1970's you had no enthusiasm for space travel.

NASA had plans for an Apollo Applications Program using an advanced Saturn-V called the Saturn MLV using the Rocketdyne F-1A engine to launch such things as a small lunar outpost, long range exploration vehicles, NASA even had developed a nuclear rocket engine called the NERVA that was seriously intended to be used in a possible Manned Jupiter Flyby in the late 1970's. Then their budget was cut in 1969 and all Apollo flights beyond Apollo 17 were cancelled. in 1972 NASA had their budget slashed due to a lack of enthusiasm in space travel and Nixon not seeing the point and everything was fucked up. Rocketdyne has been tinkering with the F-1 engine since that point when they can scrape the money together and they intend to use an F-1B to power future launch vehicles with more lifting capacity than even the Saturn MLV

Much of their stuff was faked and they were suffering a severe grain shortage threatening famine which was remedied by the Amerikans.

sage and report
going to the moon isn't that hard - it's the slowing down and breathing ok that was tricky

No it was because 3rd party deep space radar became a threat to the scam.

If the Apollo 1 disaster and the unreliability of the Saturn 1 rocket seemed a major setback, the dismal progress of the Saturn V posed an even greater threat to Apollo's success. The Saturn V's awesome power was derived from five separate engines (the F-1), each delivering 1.5 million pounds of thrust, more than an entire Saturn 1. These engines were proving enormously problematic. Indeed Rocketdyne, the company responsible for building them, had not been able to build a single F-1 engine that could reach full power without exploding or becoming uncontrollable. By 1967, the Saturn V had not achieved a single successful launch despite over five years of development.
Instead of announcing to the world the cancellation of the Apollo Program however, NASA decided on a different strategy. Publicly Apollo would be seen to continue and, ultimately, succeed. Its missions would in reality only go into Earth orbit; evidence that they achieved any more than this would be faked. It was a desperate strategy, fraught with risks. But the political risks of telling the truth were clearly calculated to be much greater.

As far as the rest of the world was concerned nothing changed. Contractors carried on working round the clock to build and test all the equipment and components, unaware that they were no longer building spacecraft parts but film props. The vast majority of NASA's own employees thought the Apollo Program was still a serious enterprise and so did most of the Senate. It was all to culminate in what must go down as one of the finest, most cynical hoaxes in history.

Yes, I read the link.

The Saturn V was built for literally one purpose: to land men on the moon. There is no market whatsoever to launch 130 tonne satellites into orbit, and anyone suggesting such a thing simply displays their complete lack of knowledge in the field and basically anything further they say can be disregarded.

In fact many studies were done and there is a wealth of literature on what could be done to modify existing Apollo hardware for other purposes, such as the INT-20 and INT-21 concept vehicles, or more ambitious Saturn MLV concepts for potential Mars missions. In the end those concepts were all rejected in favour of developing the Space Shuttle.

That's another thing I'd love to know what is going on in your worldview. If spaceflight is fake or the Saturn V wasn't real what are all these engineers doing when they hold conferences and write studies etc arguing over the specifics of these things? Are they LARPers?

Some of the high cycle power designs have ridiculous ground plane errors. Much of everything didn't operate correctly but everyone was told it all would be fixed by integration.

>If spaceflight is fake or the Saturn V wasn't real what are all these engineers doing when they hold conferences and write studies etc arguing over the specifics of these things.

Saturn V is never talked about, the technology is "lost" not only the horse power part, but the anti-rad solutions, launch systems and many others.

It was built for two reasons to canonise the man they assassinated and to make the average person feel puny and weak before his new god the government.

Not sure they actually went, but the photos are staged. Too perfect.

The Apollo 11 camera was mounted on the Modular Equipment Stowage Assembly, the little black and white slow scan camera used on Apollo 11 was only used in that mission as the later Westinghouse Lunar Color Camera wasn't fully functional in time for Apollo 11. Neil Armstrong had to pull a little lanyard on the LM to deploy the MESA rack and Buzz Aldrin controlled the switch to activate the camera.

The fucker little Saturn 1 prop was not working correctly 2 year before the the fucking launch. Saturn 5 4 times bigger got flown 2 years after that on the first try. yeah right. Typical ((Nasa)) and ((holywood)) bullshit.

3 men passing van allen belts for the FIRST TIME IN HUMANITY and not getting fried or dying from cancer years after.

>not knowing about the color camera they had onboard and were taking picture with it inside.

and yet, it all checks out to an objective certainty

None of the moon scenes were staged with the astronauts. Neil Armstrong didn't do anything.

the fact youre a commie faggot makes me think youre only trying to discredit the US beating the soviet union to the moon

>ausistic 15 year old thinks flags matter on fucking Sup Forums.

gtfo pls

You are a television folklore casualty.

>nice phrase

At the Smithsonian they have an Apollo craft that supposedly landed. I don't know if it was an actual lander or a mock-up. It looked like it was built from underpinning from a trailer, so if that was supposed to be a real lander, then based on that alone, I'd say there's no way we went to the Moon in that contraption.

all commies will hang