Should religion be treated as mental disorder?

Should religion be treated as mental disorder?

Should Atheism?

No as it is just a form for non aware egotists to find their own happiness.

Atheism is the belief in nothing.

God always existed

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>God is dead - Nietzsche. Nietzsche is dead - God.
What are you whinning about OP?

>Atheism is the belief in nothing.

Atheism is not a belief.

>God always existed

proof?

>Nietzsche
>atheist

Nietzsche was literally an atheist.

The universe expands from nothingness.
Earth forms 4 billion years ago.
Modern man comes about 200,000 years ago.
Evolution.
Modern man still hates gay's.
Almonds activated.

Atheism is the belief that anything which cannot ever be empirically proved is always false.

>Christians actually believe this

just think about it, take all the time you need

yes
>atheism is not a belief
what is it

Its better than gays who fuck buttholes filled with poop

Athiesm is a belief that there IS no dieties, and they have no hard proof

christian is belief in a god, who has no hard proof.

hell even the big bang is a massive speculation.

>God always existed
[citation needed]

The big bang most definitely happened on basically every scientific level.
Also whats the difference between gays fucking buttholes with poop and straights doing it?

you should consider why religions warn agains sodomites and degenerates also biggest cucks and degenerates are atheists close second pagans

Faggot Kommie Kuck science claims everything appeared from a Big Bang sounds about right ?

Bad b8 desu.

>The big bang most definitely happened on basically every scientific level.
It was also developed by a Catholic. Non-meme Christianity has no problem with it.
>Also whats the difference between gays fucking buttholes with poop and straights doing it?
Both are wrong.

there is none you fucking sodomite

All forms of ass play are degenerate.

it's funny how people who claim to be so smart can't even FATHOM the possibility that something exists "outside" our universe and its laws.

that's like npc's from any random mmorpg debating whether computer programmers exist, or whether their computer universe just popped into existence by "chance".

Pretty sure God hates a lot of people, not just gays. I see what some of you look like.

you need to prove that the universe wasn't created because logic dictates if something exists in our universe something else had to create it.

Atheism is the belief (without evidence) that the universe wasn't created and it magically appeared out of nothing.

I do love the meme, but religitards need to be redpilled through conversation, not memes. It's always the memes they bring out when we get to discussing shit and they never have many real arguments. It depresses me.

Atheism is the belief that there was nothing and then suddenly a giant explosion appeared from out of nowhere and made everything after that.

And also homosexuality which is detrimental to the passing of genes makes perfect sense.

Yes, but scientists don't claim that nothing existed before the big bang. Instead, scientists are humble enough to admit they don't know what happened before the big bang. Religious people are arrogant in that they claim to know the secrets of the universe when in reality they know nothing, just like the rest of us.

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>should a human cultural artifact that is observed to develop in literally every recorded civilization and is common to the overwhelming majority of human beings both throughout history and in modernity be considered a mental illness?

Because there's more than one post by OP in this thread I'm going to dignify the idiotic question with this response: that is an idiotic fucking question. The greentext above plainly explains WHY it is an idiotic question. If you'd like to criticize religion writ large on some other, marginally less idiotic grounds, I invite you to do so, but seriously that construction of the question is stupider than building a hammer out of blown glass.

LOL most astronauts and NASA engineers and scientists were very religious; a catholic communion mass was even performed on the surface of the moon

It's only recently that atheism=science became a meme

I don't hate gays and never have more than Christians and Muslims, who execute them. Thinking???

Where in the bible does it say that your wife cannot put her pinky in your ass while she gives you a blowjob?

>haha we can't prove le big bang BAZINGO XD but it totally happened xDD

Atheism, not even once

Atheists cannot refute this, and most will accept it.
Can you not see how this idea is flawed? Who is to say all that is is all that can be verified. A key flaw is that we decide that reality has no intrinsic non-physical properties. The quality of conscious experienve is enough to show that this isnt the case. Sure you could map it to brain scans or whatever, but those scans cannot fully describe the actual experience

Somewhere around the city of Sodom getting BTFO

I'm an atheist and you just built a straw man argument. You lose.

Atheist Model
>the universe the result of absolute randomness, your conscious is nothing more than electrical synapses, there is no point to anything and nothing truly matters

Theist model
>there is a higher entity that goes beyond human comprehension, the universe is the way it is because of this entity which ultimately provides meaning, morality, and reason to the universe

so either you believer the universe has no order, everything is random and we are in a perpetual state of unknown chaos because science disproves some old desert text written 2000 years ago

or you believe like everything that exist, there is a higher entity in control and there is reason for things to happen, that our universe is not this result absolute Darwinism

science dos not disprove God, it can disprove the bible but not the philosophical entity that which is God, hell science states that we are more likely to be living in a simulation than a universe devoid of God, just look up Elon Musk believes

As long as there is a greater than 0% probably of God's existence, than it is vary likely that there is a God or an all powerful entity that which claims the title of God

its just we don't have the scientific means or philosophical capacity to study or interpret the idea of "God" as of 2017, kinda like trying to explain Electromagnetic fields to cavemen

I literally don't know a single religious person who claims to "know the secrets of the universe". Quite the opposite in fact.

It's only the crackpots and cult leaders who say shit like that. Religion is not about 'knowing' anything, it's about faith.

The fact that you think this is what religious people believe shows how totally unqualified you are to even talk about the subject.

Nobody says the universe came from nothing except Christcucks constructing strawmen. Nobody knows what came before the big bang, or what caused it. It is, however, demonstrably true that most bodies in the universe are moving away from each other, from a single point.

Why do people need to prove deities, which you fucking misspelled? Why?

THERE IS NOTHING THERE TELLING US WE'D BETTER DISPROVE DEITIES BECAUSE HERE THEY ARE WRECKING SHIT AND CHANGING THE WORLD.

>what is burden of proof?

I'll tell you what: it's why people can't go into a court room and say :so there's zero evidence of why Paul raped Robin, but let me ask you, can you disprove that Paul DIDN'T rape Ryan?!?!?!

ATHEISTS BTFOD

>AMERICA ISNT REAL BRO, ITS NEVER BEEN PROOVEN TO EXIST
-European, 1492

Evolution selects for religion, every successful society has religion. If anything those that profess to be irreligious should be classified as having a disorder. Either they are not telling the truth or they are a genetic abnormality

God exists and if god happens not to exists humans need him anyway and have created him

Believing in a non-ethnic religion should be.

Nobody has ever seriously claimed the big bang occurred from nowhere

Homosexuality solves overpopulation

You. I like you, and you're right.
That's why all the real Christians (including the ones in my family) don't have a problem with gays unless they get too wrapped up in establishment religious bullshit.

Disprove the argument faggot

Going even deeper, autistic atheists think after le big bang, everything formed from particles of dust, and evolution is the act of different particles bumping into each other millions of times, eventually creating everything, including ourselves.

Your meme is bullshit. It specifically says in the Bible that God has always existed, without beginning, and without end. Faggot.

No, but homosexuality should.

It's a perspective. A belief requires faith. Atheism is the lack of faith.

Christ tards eternally BTFO.

Bro do you even know what the big bang is? It's a response to gravity. Things existed or else nothing would've come from the big bang.

Please. For all we've learned right now, your 'God' is the biggest black hole, the center of chaos and destruction, at the center of the universe.

So where did le big bang come from? Show me on a map please

And faggots dying out is about the only good thing about faggotry. Thank God for AIDs

hmmm put like that it sounds just like the big bang theory.

You've never met a religious person who KNOWS that they'll go to Heaven after they die, or that God has some secret special plan for everyone, even 9 year old kids who die of leukemia? I'm gonna call bullshit in that one, buddy

Yes, and so should capitalism, bigotry, and libertarians and fascists.

Yes but their religion didn't EFFECT their SCIENTIFIC UNDERSTANDING or ACADEMIC INTEGRITY. That's where you fuckers fail, and hard.

And the Bible is worth taking at face value because...?

Capitalism is Jewish, not communism.

How else do you explain the fact that everything we've observed is moving away from the same point? Why did God do that???????

>God, the all loving, all knowing, forgiving friendly man in the sky turns Lot's wife into a pillar of salt for looking at a pillar of flame engulfing her home town
>yeah let's believe this guy over Stephen Hawking or Einstein

Of course. If your best friend started talking to somebody you couldn't see or prove to exist (yet they perceived them to be there and directly influencing their life), you'd want them to get psychiatric help to conquer these delusions.

Praying is no different. It's just a more socially accepted delusion...

surface of the moon?

yeah right

Don't forget Communist, marxist, maoist, trotsykites, etc etc

>faith
>proof

Why is everybody confusing these two things lately?

wrong, both are Jewish

what is the hegelian dialectic?

This is why religion needs to be purged, it doesn't contribute anything to add our evolving and progressing species.

>everybody
You mean theists on Sup Forums. They're basically reddit with their, "Listen and BELIEVE," horseshit.

That's called 'faith'.

Some religious people have very strong faith because it gives them comfort and meaning in their lives.

That isn't 'knowing' and it certainly doesn't mean that they claim to 'know the secrets of the universe' either.

Saying "I know God has a plan for me" isn't the same as saying "I know all the secrets of the universe and fuck science".

Communism is free from religion, unlike you, we are superior in regards to scientific advancements.

Communism is a ponzi scheme to encourage every citizen to give up their wealth to the state, so that the state may abolish itself.

>Atheist Model
>>the universe the result of absolute randomness, your conscious is nothing more than electrical synapses, there is no point to anything and nothing truly matters

As an atheist, the model is that the universe is not random, although we do not fully understand the universe it seems not to be dictated or created by a creator god that favoured the humanoid form. God is wishful thinking, an ever-present eye in the sky that isn't there.

Ultimately there is no point to anything, but that is the far future. But since we live in the present and knowing your own mortality makes life even more worth living. Even preserving your race is more valuable.

What is another popular collection of thousands of years worth of historical events?

That point is God

>gives clear instructions
>decide not to follow them
>shit happens

Wow, wtf god??

lol you have faith in your BLACK SCIENCE! MANZ

Nobody knows (or even claims to know) how the big bang occurred, but scientists have determined an approximate location by observing the way galaxies move away from one another.

How do you know that God created everything? Show me on a map.

And why is that a bad thing?

That's why there's been so many successful communist countries...o wait

I like people like you, it's just that once you see what the fuck really happens on this Earth, to living people and to animals and etc... you can't ever, EVER accept that there's some all-powerful force controlling it, because if you do, you'll have no choice but to understand that force as
>evil as FUCK

I'm not memeing here, this is what I think myself and most other athiests understand. There is no 'belief' when you see millions of people slaughtered, children, babies, horrific diseases, rapes, murders, real living people completely robbed of an entire life through the most suffering and injustice possible...

It just doesn't work any more. It breaks, and can never be "fixed." Do you understand???

I disproved your argument. It was a straw man. As in, I, as an atheist do not believe what you told me I believe. You lost so hard, faggot.

lol what? how?

You're making some pretty major assumptions there, about a lot of things.

Sometimes yes. But most of the time it should be categorized as a scam perpetrated at the expenses of emotionally sensible ppl.

Organized religion should be illegal.

I'm glad that there are some intelligent people on here.

Gadsden flag god damnit, where are you from? You are a cool nigger that I want to have a few drinks with.

Yes. In fact they should be treated as animals.
Muslims gonna jihad.
Leftists let their pets off leash, leftists must be held accountable.

Your argument implies that particles are nothing. Do you really think that? Further inquiry: do you really think about what nothing means, since you use the word so candidly?

Those were socialist states, communism only exist when all the world is stateless, classless, ridden of poverty/crime/religion.

>hell even the big bang is a massive speculation.
>speculation

yep your flag makes perfect sense now

>>atheism is not a belief
>what is it

lack thereof


it's funny how people who claim to be so smart can't even FATHOM the possibility that something exists without a creator. It's like you can't exist without being an NPC in a degenerate video game.

>Creates people
>hates his creations
almonds = activated.

you need to finish elementary school to post here

cancer occurs in all living things as well

did the bible get them to the moon or was it a physics book?

you must finish middle school to post here

>so either you believer the universe has no order
that's not what science claims, stopped reading there

10/10

you need to finish middle school to post here


thanks for pointing it out, faith has no place in our language, it's the equivalent of a mental disorder.
I believe you are a giraffe.

This.

No but you should

>atheism is the retarded belief that something came from the inherently unstable concept of absolute nothing
>religion is the sane and rational belief that a wizard with no origin did it and if you ask where he came from we whine

Well that answered OP's question

You cannot argue with people hooked onto the opiate of our species.

Retarded atheistfags can't accept that unknowns exist in the world and one of them might be a creator.

All ideology is a mental disorder

>Ultimately there is no point to anything
Not a shred of an argument to support this

Why are religious people so moronic?

You know, the most petty thing about this fucking argument is that "God" gives these kids that die horrific, unjust deaths a pass because, well gee, they're just too young to understand!

It literally says that in the bible, and how fucked up and petty is that? Why would you worship such a God to the end that you would give everything in your life and soul to "him?"

Makes me sick. It's your life and your mind - be who you are.

>burden of proof

Again, religitards prove they cannot even reliably use Wikipedia.

So really it's just a bunch of unprovable hearsay? Hmmm, really makes me think

Geometric design woven into the fabric of our universe, ie Golden Ratio proves Intelligent Design

>dude give up your shit
>commies actually think this is a good thing

Noe you're strawmanning faggot because your flismy worldview got BTFO

No, I'm making inferences form the atheist perspective.

>first there was nothing
>but then there was something
>and that something made everything
>BUT DON'T MENTION GOD REEEEEEEEE

>not real communism

O i am laffin

A creator figure need not meddle in corporeal affairs.
Much in the smae way a nigger father just leaves his creation in a dumpster.
I think there is no knowing of the "beyond" apart from personal experience.

>cancer occurs in all living things as well
Yes, it does, and it tends to kill them, making it fairly maladaptive. Religiosity in the general sense is not maladaptive; in the specific sense it can be (suicidal cults don't tend to propagate very effectively, for example) but mainstream religions do not achieve their prominence by accident. They actually have value that is made manifest by their capacity to spread and dominate cultures. That is not a subjective value, by the way; as much as a value can be objective, it is one according to cold Darwinian logic.

>did the bible get them to the moon or was it a physics book?

If you ask them -- and many have -- they'll tell you it was both.

Christian values created the civilization that wrote the physics books which eventually got men to the moon. And Christian values and work ethic drove those men to achieve what they did.

One would not exist without the other.