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How about Eris, based deity of trolling retards?

Your own point was that you believe in Christ and the truth of it, now you're arguing utility and how the meaning changed.
Have you read the bible? It's exclusively about Jews and the people Jews meet. Why do you expect people aware of the JQ to get behind that?

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Paganism didn't save India, Africa, or Japan. Why do you think it'll save the West?

During His lifetime, no persons were described as "Jews" anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the "homeland" of the ancestors of those who today style themselves "Jews". Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their "homeland", and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a "Jew". The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term "Texan" signifies a person living in Texas.

In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called "Jews", they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as "Jew". The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled "Jews" today refer to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees". "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of Jesus are the same.

Jesus abhorred and denounced "Pharisaism"; hence the words, "Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers".

She's an Ettin

>Vipers
I agree with that. Fuck vapors. Dirty hipsters.

>your people accomplished nothing of note before Christianity

Fuck off Jew

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For those in Europe (not you), it's about getting to know who your ancestors were.

>Gets utterly btfo in one sentence
Hahahahaha, can you read? Let's say the hair is natural, those aren't even men like you claimed they were. Where do you see a discrepancy in eye colour? I will post it again because in your post you even said that those aren't women when they undeniably are. It's obvious you're making stuff up.

>khazar shit

Yeah maybe that stuff works if you're trying to delude yourself, but countless historic figures even prior to 0AD complain about Jews being Jews.
Jews aren't Khazars.

>be Norwegian
>live in a shithole, basicly mudhut tier
>"muh vikings"
>our only accomplishiments so far is infighting, "breddy gudd :DD" boats and shamanistic shit
>Hvitekrist (White Christ) comes and saves us
>Suddenly we have writing (inb4 muh futhark, runes are retarded), agriculture and society
>a few hundred years later we're amongst the richest countries in the world
>some faggot welfare queen kills a man and tries to tell us christianty is bad

Do LARPagans deserve anything other than ridicule?

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what is the average pagan like? you guys here seem pretty respectable. however i have a suspicion that the average pagan is like pic related

>women
>same exact hairstyle as the men
>same laurel wreath
>same dress

It's really starting to get pathetic now dude. People should know when they're beaten in an argument

>Be nobody
>Hides flag
>Tells others to stop caring about their ancestors

The chapel of St Peter in Fritzlar Germany. Fashioned out of the sacred oak tree of Thor, the Donar Oak. St. Boniface the patron saint of Sup Forums fell the tree and German paganism with it.

>Mudhut

Norse architecture was actually fairly advanced. It's design was well-suited to the cold climate.

t. Anglo, not nordic.

>(Revelation 2:9) ‘I know your tribulation and poverty—but you are rich—and the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan.

>(Revelation 3:9) Look! I will give those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews, and yet they are not but are lying—look! I will make them come and do obeisance before your feet and make them know I have loved you.

Any so-called Jew that refuses to acknowledge Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah is Satanic and anti-Christ. By God's point of view, the Jew is a chosen one of God that acknowledges his arrangements.

The ancient Jews were not (((Jews))). They were Israelites. What made Israelites unique was their genealogy. They could trace their lineages back to Abraham, Isaac and Israel. After the Seige of Jerusalem in 70 AD all geneaological records were destroyed and all Israelites disbanded. The (((Jews))) of our time are imposters who claim a link to the original Israelites but have none because they cannot trace their lineage back to them at all.

But let's turn this around, can you point to any pagan text that specifically states race mixing is wrong? If you can't you're just a LARPing atheist trying to shoe horn his belief structure into a dead religion.

Jews aren't Khazars, they originate from the middle east, they don't have turkic haplogroups.

pnas.org/content/97/12/6769.full?sid=87fe5eab-25be-450d-8e72-ac3483580c4c

journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.0020143

"found that about 40% of Ashkenational socialist Jews originate maternally from just four female founders, who were of Middle Eastern origin."

Kestutis Castle, built in the 14th century by Slavic Pagans.

What the fuck does that even mean?

It's a really stupid meme

I lived in a pagan country most of my life (India), but the shit you anons talk about in these threads is totally alien to me. It's like you want "Sup Forums: The Religion" and imagine Sup Forumsack ideas are self-evident in paganism or something

You don't understand. I am saved by Christ. There is a tangible benefit to my life, and because of it I will inherit eternal Glory. There is a benefit I gain in this that no pagan LARPing will give any of you. That's why we look down on you, because you advocate for something you don't really believe. You're just atheists who realise how stupid atheism is.

But anyway, lets turn it around.

Remember that Vikings sold whites as slaves to Arabs. White women were especially in high demand.

m.thenational.ae/world/europe/when-the-arabs-met-the-vikings-new-discovery-suggests-ancient-links

You can tell why it appeals to the modern Swede, there ancestors basically invented a religion dedicated to weaponised cucking. Not only did they allow their women to have multiple husbands, they actively captured white women, and shipped them half way across the world so they could give them to shitskins.

When that failed they just decided to let all the shit skins into their country and rape their women without consequence.

It's no wonder the only time Nordic people weren't absolute cucks was the few hundred years they were Christians.

>The ancient Jews were not (((Jews))). They were Israelites. What made Israelites unique was their genealogy. They could trace their lineages back to Abraham, Isaac and Israel. After the Seige of Jerusalem in 70 AD all geneaological records were destroyed and all Israelites disbanded. The (((Jews))) of our time are imposters who claim a link to the original Israelites but have none because they cannot trace their lineage back to them at all.
They were Jews, stop lying.

John 4:31 – In the meantime His talmidim (“students, disciples”) urged Him, saying, “Rabbi, eat.”

John 3:1-2 – This man came to Yeshua (“Jesus”) by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”

John 6:25 – And when they found Him on the other side of the lake, they said to Him, “Rabbi, when did You come here?”

Luke 4:16 – So he came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read.

New WNs are not aware of this. The khazars, which the ashkenazi jews are the descendants of were pagans(not that there's anything wrong with that I'm not pagan bashing). By calling these khazarians semites they are implying they are the same as those in the bible and legitimizing their claim to palastine.

>basicly mudhut tier

>boats
Finest ships in the world

>only accomplishments

Revolutionized European warfare, specifically in the British Isles, best swords, widest and furthest trade route, spread culture throughout four continents, discovered North America, navigation

>runes are retarded
Runes are an alphabet just like any other, and they were in use from 200 AD to 1700 AD.

>hurr religion is more important than genes

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Both you and I's ancestors were Christian. I don't give a shit about the nameless, faceless and unknowable "ancestors" from thousands of years ago. My ancestors, family, and people are all Christian. I'm not abandoning them for the shitty religion my "ancestors" gave up.
Mainstream neopagan groups are either straight up leftist or apolitical. All neopagans make shit up to fit their agenda. Lefties claim the vikings where LGBT friendly and tolerant, the people here insert racialism into it. It's sort of necessary to artificially inflate your religion when all you have are historical scraps of how it was actually practiced.

Truly. Most "mudhuts" these christians speak of aren't even in Europe. Pic related.

It's so fucking crazy that Baltics were still pagan into late middle ages.
Fucking hicks, lol.

>copypasta from last thread

Nigger, Christian Italians sold Whites to Arab Muslims also, and then after Christian slavery was banned, they sold Slavs (some of who were Christian anyway).

Kikes co-opted the Israelite religion for their own ends, what of it?

Happy Thors Day friends

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>All neopagans make shit up to fit their agenda. Lefties claim the vikings where LGBT friendly and tolerant, the people here insert racialism into it.

Christians do literally the same thing.

One hand you have LGBTQQ@28jafw93lxx loving nigger toe sucking Popes, on the other hand, Deus Vult Sup Forums LARPers.

Religion is a political tool.

But it's still Wotan's Day

Happy Summer Solstice to all! Hail the Gods.

So what you're saying is that white genocide is OK under specific circumstances?

Gee, and LARPagans wonder why no one takes them seriously.

Not in STRAYA CUNT!

There are many studies proving the modern Jews of their middle eastern origin, the Israelites were Jews and the modern Jews are their descendants, It's their God and Christians are just a Jewish sect. Admit it, man!

>I am saved by Christ. There is a tangible benefit to my life, and because of it I will inherit eternal Glory.

see this is the problem with you lot, it's always 'muh paradise', therefore you let the world turn to shit and don't care what happens to the rest of your planet or it's people after you've gone

>mfw pagans will deny the obvious influence the Christian Apocalypse had in the Ragnarök
>Muh truly original folklore and norse knowledge

we are all connected and will all learn from each other
just don't be autistic
I just want to point out that I do respect your devotion and interest in paganism as it is part of you culture and your people should definitly cling to it.

But the rebuttal of good christian deeds throughout the world will be purged in the name of GOD!!! AVE MARIA

Wotan, Wotan O Pilgrim Grey
No more will you wander the green fields of this earth
Your journey has ended in darkness.
The bonds cut, the spirit broken
The Spirit of Wisdom has left this World
A great light, extinguished.


Othinn, who once was...
Sent by the Lords of the Sky
To guard the lands of the West
Wisest of all Gods
What drove you to leave
That which you loved?

>Finest ships in the world
Stop this meme. The boats served their purpose for piracy and trading but there's nothing particularly special about them.
>best swords
Wrong. The vikings had a fairly primitive understanding of metallurgy.
>widest and furthest trade route
That would be the silk road.
>spread culture throughout four continents
What?
>discovered North America
Leif Erikson was a christian you absolute moron

You fucking retards don't even know the slightest thing about your own history.

Hail the gods!!! Hail Wodanaz!!!
>TFW when in EST

>modern LARPagan surprised that Christianity, the force that unified Europe and allowed their manifest destiny across the world, has several splinter groups

Think of it this way. At its absolute maximum the population of the world in 0AD was thought to be 230 million people.

The population of Europe was thought to be about 80-110 million.

itbulk.org/population/world-population-history/

Depending on region and county the would have had opposing religions and prayed to different Gods/nature spirits, trees/ whatever.

You can't seriously be surprised that any particular branch of paganism, which probably had no more that a few hundred thousand people following it at any one time, and has no real historical data (as they were illiterate morons) than a global religion with currently a BILLION members (and growing).

Just to put into perspective how fucking irrelevant Norse paganism is there are more Scientolgists in the US today than there were ever people who genuinely believed Odin really existed and sucked dead men's cocks for sperm.

No go and play Skyrim and pretend you're a real Nord. Faggot.

The point is that no one had a concept of race before 1492 and you're you intellectually dishonest. You again copypasted your own comment.

Reported for spam.

Yawn. You still gave me 0 evidence and you argue as if you didn't even read my image.
>same dress
>same exact hairstyle as the men
Book an appointment with the optometrist

>same wreath
Irrelevant

If your faith doesn't not produce good works, you will not be saved as its not true faith. We're called to improve the world, if we fail we will not enter the kingdom of God

youtube.com/watch?v=To_OJMr8Y9g

youtube.com/watch?v=Y7f3gPZG8xQ

And you think atheists pretending to be vikings makes the world better how?

Silly LARPagan cuck, your ancestors could see how primitive pagan beliefs were which is why they converted. You shame them.

yep, if it was such a bad design why is it still used?

>LARPagans don't think races existed until 600 years ago

Are...are you a parody of pagan retardedness or is this the real deal?

Desert Religion is not for the white man tho...

>The boats served their purpose for piracy and trading but there's nothing particularly special about them.

Riveting construction, the viking ship was the direct ancestor of the Hanseatic cog.

>fairly primitive understanding of metallurgy.

Complete bullshit, vikings revolutionized metallurgy through the use of bog iron due to lack of iron in Denmark. The Irish for example copied viking swords because they were still using insular swords based on the Roman gladius.

The vikings reintroduced the ax which led to a complete reordering of armor. We know this because the English, Irish and French begin producing armor in droves. They also reintroduced bow and arrow combat, whereas most Europeans were using slings (descended from the Romans).

Here's my source:

amazon.com/Viking-Age-Proceedings-Fifteenth-Congress/dp/1846821010/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1498083109&sr=8-4-fkmr0&keywords=fiftheenth viking congress

Where's yours?

>What?

Viking colonies in Europe, Asia, North Africa and North America, American intellectual.

First of all, it's not about Christian vs Pagan. They are both my people.

Second of all
Leif was not the first European to discover America: he had heard the story of merchant Bjarni Herjólfsson

I don't know the slightest thing about my history? Let's see the scholarly articles and books you read.

Maybe don't rest your entire identity on the fact your white. It's pathetic

>Silly LARPagan cuck, your ancestors could see how primitive pagan beliefs were which is why they converted. You shame them.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redbad,_King_of_the_Frisians

What's your goal here? Why do you keep posting?
Insecure that every holy figure in your book is a racial kike?

Go fundraise for the church so they can bring some brown people to be your neighbors.

What do you think of the bock saga?

>tfw no turf house to have comfy story time around the hearth during the coldest months of winter, with a mug of tea in your hand and a nice warm wool sweater

Dude it's a Pagan thread you fucking idiot.

Hail Shiva!!! Gods guide you.

vikings? I'm a celt, it was christianity that brutally killed us off, no better than the muslims

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cædwalla_of_Wessex#Accession_and_reign

Quality over quanity.

>go place Skyrim and pretend to be a real nord

I AM a Nord. Now go play Warhammer and pretend like the Space Marines are Christian you fucking cultureless, raceless amerifat.

Then the entire premise of this thread is pathetic and cringe worthy. I hope the left memes you guys hard for this gay shit, your low hanging fruit

Fuck off mongrel, why would you care about a culture that isn't yours

Okay. Nice non argument.

If you want to argue that race is above all else than why would religion matter? Are people in the white society that you envision all going to be bound by your idea of what paganism is? What about a country that was simply off limits by law to non-whites where people choose their own faith, even christianity?

Learning about our history and ancient beliefs is cringeworthy?

"Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire."

>your low hanging fruit

Said the native speaker of English that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.

Your a complete and utter disgrace to yourself. I hope there's a special layer of hell in Christian belief for retards that never learned grammar.

Could a "pagan" please intellectualize the belief system for us.

Where did we come from?
Why are we here?
Who made us or is in control? Where did they come from?
Does free will exist?
What happens when we die?
Do we have souls?
Is there reincarnation?
Is there a code of ethics which must be followed?
If so what?
And so forth...

I never see these questions answered in these threads. I see an OP or another user post a few links and recommend some books or YouTubers but then no one can articulate anything beyond that. What is the purpose of these threads if you don't want others to join you?

>INB4
>"muh ancestors"
>"muh cultural aesthetics"

That's not a reason to believe anymore than someone telling you to be a Christian for the same reasons would be.

Its either atheist LARP or you are true believers with a belief system you should be able to articulate. Nothing more.

>LOLOL I SAID YOURE CRINGE SO ARGUMENT IS INVALID

>Slavic
kys

What culture? The extinct one? My culture is the glory of pic related. My culture actually formed all the positive aspects of Europe, and is found in every town. My culture is real and tangible, not a laughing stock. Have you ever seen a pagan festival? It's all lgbt fat chick's with blue hair

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>Where did we come from?

Evolution

>Why are we here?

To ensure our memories live on forever.

>Who made us or is in control? Where did they come from?

Our ancestors. They came from our ancestors.

Where did your God come from? Himself, right?

>Does free will exist?

Hard one. I'd say yes, humans have agency, though influenced by genetics and the environment.

>What happens when we die?

You're either forgotten or remembered. Sometimes you're forgotten after being remembered. Sometimes, you're remembered after being forgotten.

>Do we have souls?

Not in the literal sense.

>Is there reincarnation?

No

>Is there a code of ethics which must be followed?

Man decides the code of ethics.

>If so what?

Fluid, for the most part.

Your entire post is hilarious in how cringe worthy it is and how you don't see it

Churches are now pagan
Incredible

>big buildings built by rich people

Meh. Only an American thinks that's culture.

Hey look at them tall buildings! Dis here real kutler.

Thanks for answering. That's at least a starting point but I have the feeling other pagans will disagree with some of what you have said. I want to see other answers before engaging further. I want to understand the philosophy of perennialism with people who view it as something more than atheist larp which is why I am asking theology questions.

>Could a "pagan" please intellectualize the belief system for us.
That's a long question, can you join the skype?
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Sorry it's just that I'm doing several things at once

Aryans come from Hyperborea
We are profoundly earthly, made for this planet
The gods are the Creator of the Aryan race, we are there descendants. Yes we have a soul. What happens when we die depends on our actions in live, if we are honorable we can head to Freya realm or Valhalla, if not then Hel's realm. We will eventually be reincarnated as one of your descendants though. You must live with honor because your honor is eternal, so virgin before marriage, no drugs, respect your family and love your people.

>What about a country that was simply off limits by law to non-whites where people choose their own faith, even christianity?
That would be perfect and your the first person that's not a total faggot on this thread. Culture is what will save Europe, culture created by Christians. All the pagan himmler worship larping won't save the west, only Christianity can but pagan faggots are to dumb to see that

I guess the pantheon should also be considered a christian church too by your (retarded) logic

Fuck off

Stave architecture was already present in Norway. That's why churches are stave churches, and not churches like found on the continent of Europe.

Here's Scandinavian architecture 800 AD by the way.

You do realise history is not linear? That Europe has many positive and largely forgotten aspects from pre-christian times too before the onset of the dark ages?
Thousands of years of history and discovery in the forms of politics, philosophy, oral epics, folk religion, unique metalworking, architecture etc, a lot of which is still influencing us today, in one form or another.