White America has no answer to the the passion and the power of these young, African-American scholars. This is the first all-black women's debate team to win the Cross-Examination Asoociation's NATIONAL debate championship.
No argument here. These girls read the same 1AC from the start of the tournament and posted every single bit of evidence they read every single round.
Even though CEDA is totally infiltrated by leftists they are not going to ignore arguments that outweigh the 1AC.
Even though they use their identity to win rounds debate is a kitchen and if you can't stand the heat fucking leave.
Blake Gutierrez
This video is easy to make fun of, but the problem here is actually in the rules of high school debate. The rules work this way: you have a limited time to present. You get points for saying things that support your case. You lose points for saying things that go against your case. If a judge is unable to understand what you say, they cannot dock you points, they can either give you a point or count it as a zero.
From this setup, what they are doing is literally the best strategy to win. Your actual argument doesn't matter, just points. Points are given for making statements that support your argument, rather than looking at the argument as a whole. By speaking as fast as they can, they maximize the points they can get in the round. By speaking almost incomprehensibly, they ensure they never lose points.
The organizers behind these debates actually like this style. They like debaters speaking at 500 words per minute and throwing out as many arguments as possible. They call it "spreading". They think it enhances the learning experience.
Ethan Reyes
But it's not learning. There's no comprehension here. It's just noise.
Jace Long
You don't off of points.
You argue the framework for what the debate should be judged on. in these girls case they are arguing that the things that happen within the round are more important than policy questions.
The other team has to argue that they are cheating and/or offer counterarguments to the 1AC.
Also, spreading is good because you pack more info into every debate. It's the nature of any game to speed up. I did college debate and some people I know had speaking impediments that they could only get around by talking at a fast and rhythmic pace.
Joseph Jones
Op is right like, It's over guys.
Demographically done.
WW2 is lost and the education system has successfully been converted.
Religion successfully subverted
Culture successfully degenerated
Civic Nationalism is 99% of white right wing, and they all love blacks and Mexicans and Others
They all worship assimilation as a real thing
They all worship immigration as a value "nation of..."
They all have white this it white that.... Have no sense of European origin all at, that's gone...heraldry of names (last little bit of connection) gone.
They all love Israel.
Come on! Our 15 man rallies and Nigerian basket weaving websites won't make a dent
SJWs and the radical left are like gravy to the left...
They've so far surpassed their goals... Now they have their pathological remnants almost being taken seriously...a dream for them
They won 20 years ago.
It's done guys.
Anthony Powell
Is this avant-garde debating?
Nathaniel Mitchell
I'd like chocolate covered watermelons. That man has the right idea.
Benjamin Barnes
The only points that matter are speaker points. Also these girls are in CEDA, which is not HS debate, it's college.
You win off of who can claim the biggest impacts. \
Like if the Aff says that we should nuke the norks and the neg says that it will start a US-China war you debate Impact Probability and Magnitude.
Camden Howard
The one with the afro is a mod of /r/blackladies
Luis Murphy
Bullshit.
It is an evidence debate so you have to present the best pieces of thought and you get BTFO for having shitty sources.
Henry Nguyen
this
Jeremiah Hernandez
It's like getting pissed at people who can't type fast.
They won against the other incomprehensible niggas because their privilege was slightly lower
Ian Thomas
You have obviously never done HS or Collegiate debate before.
Ryder Rodriguez
>doing policy >not superior LD
Oliver Barnes
Hand it over. We don't deserve this country.
Eli Gomez
>ceda thread or gets mentioned >ceda white knight comes out to play evrytim
Ryan Hill
ok, just noise is all that matters
Jaxon Bell
You are a major faggot.
Julian Campbell
average CEDA audience
notice anything?
Landon Hill
I won't shill for CEDA. NDT all the way
Eli Thomas
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Brayden Gomez
>i won't shill for CEDA, but i will shill for CEDA regardless
Carter Wilson
I'll shill for Policy Debate any day, I know it's been corrupted by leftists but it's the most superior form of debate. It's like the highest difficulty on vidya.
Jordan Rodriguez
Breakdown incoming:
This is a byproduct of the shifting style of cross-examination policy debate. The idea often being to make as many arguments/produce as much evidence in as short a time period is basically the norm now. 400 words per minute is not uncommon. The group in question here, Towson, was taped using a kritik - rather the argument that the affirmative team (ie who they were arguing against)'s policy or potentially even advocacy (perhaps without evaluation) on the grounds that it was developed with a certain mindset in place, in this case in particular, racism. Kritik arguments are often rather obtuse as they functionally seek attack the affirmative with the condemnation of their reasoning as inherently negative due to bias as opposed to critiquing the policy in question. You can thank 90s deconstructivism for this.
In short, its just a giant circumstantial ad hominem.
Chase Bailey
I liked when the black guy said he didn't go to jail and everyone clapped. Then his friend started rapping. Fucking niggers lmao
Jaxon Diaz
>ooga booga kangs and sheiiit >wins because affirmative niggeration
Not one intelligible argument was made
Owen Ramirez
There is actually position who can attempt to improve this - the power lies with the judges. But many will not get involved because not only is their backlash due to supporters of the modern style, but because they get the cards after each round. Cards being little notes containing 3 points: the tag (summary of argument), the cite (all relevant information), and the body (fragment of text used in argument). So realistically Judges get sparknotes and are more of watching a show.
It works like this user:
>Both teams are given topic in question ahead of time for planning >One team will be affirmative - other will be negative >Affirmative Team presents their case on topic >Affirmative team generally needs to focus on and win the following questions: How much impact will the policy have? Can policy solve problem and will it even work in the real world? Why is the policy needed and is it important enough to even be considered/make a difference? Is the policy currently i progress? How is it resolved? >negative team's job is only to negate the resolution >negative has the following options: Kritiks (as explained in )
But here's the new ones: >Topicality argue the affirmative team cheated. This comes in multiple forms; nontopicality (affirmative team hasn't done enough to support resolution), extratopicality (affirmative team has gone too far) and justification (affirmative team has not proven why said policy needs adoption)
>Disadvantages state the affirmative team's plan has negatives that outweigh the advantages
>Counterplan suggest an alternative policy and point out disadvantages in the affirmative team's policy
>Theory Basically suggest possible negatives that may come from the Affirmative team's plans due to their procedure/content
Kritiks are like the current favourite. They're based in drawing you into tangents to fuck you with the need to defend yourself from the ad hominems lest your point be thrown out cause racism or whatever.
Alexander Bennett
Yeah, Towson destroyed the rapping kids. Even though the 1AC was entertaining.
John Long
OP here,
In all seriousness, this is complete idiocy. Neither side has a GOD DAMNED thing to say. I had no idea that debate had sunk to such lows. I'm literally at a loss for words. Because I thought I had seen the worst of nigger incompetence and presumption. But this just takes it to another world. These girls (and their opponents) are super-concentrated idiots. End of story.
Gavin Jenkins
More like avant-groid, amirite?
Blake Green
>laptops Its for flowing. Its like a notepad for taking notes to track which arguments have been used in each round and the responses etc. and where to match up to in rebuttal etc.
>dress formally No dress code user.
>what are they debating? This was the topic:
>The United States Federal Government should substantially increase statutory and/or judicial restrictions on the war powers authority of the President of the United States in one or more of the following areas: targeted killing, indefinite detention, offensive cyber operations, or introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities.
Oklahoma, the affirmative team, decided to make it about race and US militarism - that the current detached nature of the discussion is pathological and imperialist, and Towson's negative team responded with a kritik - asserting that presenting such a narrative is intrinsically biased as it reinforces the political stifling of black youths on the grounds of allowing them only to envision such violence cyclically whilst feeding the desires of the academia (a presumably white institution) - therefore Towson is accusing the policy suggestion of Oklahoma of being inherently racist on an internalized level.
>so they won by completely avoiding the original topic and making it about race? Sort of. Oklahoma started the tangent away from the original topic and Towson just basically went tangential again to say "that's racist". Because Oklahoma's policy was then identified as inherently biased due to Towson's kritik, Oklahoma failed to address the focus points and needed to resort to covering their ass - which allowed Towson freedom to drill it in and effectively win because of this lack of addressed issues.
Absolute nonesense. Anyone that has an average iq or higher. Can see this. This is allowing the dumbing down of another niche in society. Under the guise of equality.
This isnt a fucking debate. Its a chimpout fest
Cameron Perry
white people should be exterminated for allowing this shit to happen.
Adam Lee
Resolved: The United States Federal Government should substantially increase statutory and/or judicial restrictions on the war powers authority of the President of the United States in one or more of the following areas: targeted killing; indefinite detention; offensive cyber operations; or introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities.
News story conveniently doesn't show any footage of the competition, only a brief few seconds of them losing.
I say good for them, let's keep awarding substandard performance and teach valuable life lessons. I've watched as local government jobs here have been awarded to almost nothing but black women. With that, the wait times and quality have gone to shit. Substandard people provide substandard service.
Ryder Lee
>american education
Easton Thomas
>tfw used to be a policy/CX debater in high school before niggers and autistic "spreading" fucking ruined it
i honestly feel bad for high school kids today who want to get into debate
Daniel Barnes
tell me the conclusion of the debate if you aren't racist, if you can't tell me what they where debating you are a bigot.
Xavier Nguyen
Thought so.
Jason Adams
Afuckingreed. That isnt a debate. Its a spaz fest
Xavier Cooper
>muh tokens Deliberate all white male team not acceptable. No fucks to give about blabbering trained sheboons.
Matthew Hernandez
>what they where debating imbecile
Zachary Wood
No it's a "speak fast" situation you fucking retard.
Owen Price
You literally have to do 80 hours a week of research on top of schooling. Even if they are black they are at least sharp fucking thinkers.
Hunter Watson
>respond to the same person three times
Andrew Jackson
Ahh there it is been looking for this.
Benjamin Watson
he's policy debating
no time
Daniel Davis
this is two or three years old what are you doing
Kevin Wright
Debate is stupid anyway. How do you judge it? Its subjective.
Kevin Ortiz
WHAT THE FUCK. These cunts should just die, that these incomprehensible monkeys won is just baffling. They seriously sound retarded as well, it's insane. I don't get "got" a lot of times but this sure got me good. They won because they screamed NIGGAS UH-AH NIGGA NIGGA WE DINDU NUF AH-WHITENESS-AH-OPRESSION NIGGA.
Mason Allen
I've seen this and it confirms that the style is indeed autistic
Gabriel Scott
this is old news, fuck off newfag
Jackson Russell
>Even if they are black they are at least sharp fucking thinkers. wew lad dude. wew lad.
Brayden Martinez
I could tell you a few drills that we had to do in practice to improve speed and clarity if you would like.
Read a text as fast as you can and put and between every word.
Read a text backwards
Do all of that with a pen in your mouth.
Carson White
>I've seen this and it confirms that the style is indeed autistic
I thought it was appropriate that the guy who chairs something as retarded as policy debate, is autistic himself.
Asher Clark
>clarity
Joshua Wright
I bet you read 1/4th of the books those kids have.
Adam Foster
Im not bieng racist. But tell me that doesnt remind you of gibbering monkeys
For fuck sakes. Its spazzy fucking behavior with absolutely no denating skill what so ever. Yes. Very difficult to shout out nonesenseacle bullshit. In a spazzy manner. How the fuck does one judge a debate. Where the candidates behave in this manner?
Brandon Barnes
Sharp? They just spouted off nonsense and threw some "nigga" in their, get the fuck out with saying they are sharp thinkers. I have seen numerous debates and this was crap, not because they are black but because they used being black.
Benjamin Ross
What the fuck? How did I miss this in the last 15 years since I graduated. What the hell has debate become?
Christopher Cook
It's like a parody of an actual debate.
I wonder who could be behind this.
Ryder Carter
i dunno, they go to towson
Kevin Butler
>Even if they are black they are at least sharp fucking thinkers. >I bet you read 1/4th of the books those kids have.
If you aren't a nigger, you are going to get blown out.
Chase Ward
gibsuh me suma dat
Brody Sanchez
You judge it based on who wins the popularity contest. Currently, white libs wanna give that to the dumbest, loudest, fattest, blackest people. Hence this.
Zachary Moore
I think the point is that the format is fucking retarded and has zero real world application. I agree that the nigresses won given the rules, but the entire thing is ridiculous.
If you tried to "debate" like that in a boardroom, or a courtroom you would be laughed at and BTFO and the video would go viral so others could also laugh at the fail.
Easton Garcia
The one that turns around looks like a downie. The entire room does.
>topic not about racism >first team makes it about racism >second team says making it about racism is racist Jesus Christ. Post modernism in its purest.
Nolan Brown
The room must stink.
David James
Naw, only 3/5ths
Jack Martin
I'm not white, so I've always had the ability to shoot down racism K trash in the past.
Michael Taylor
Sounds like what people on the far right spout, except replace "black shit" with "hurr religion".
Kevin Diaz
Garbage in = Garbage out
Sebastian Rivera
I was not ready for the title of the video. Kek
Jose Perry
>u.teknik.io/aQ1fg.webm So, this is something I was COMPLETELY unaware of before I posted this. Has debate just turned into a big nigger-fest where the loudest and most angry/insulting side gets the win? I mean... everybody knows the humanities have gone to shit. But "debate" ... now... means ... this??
Lincoln Richardson
You don't transmute the speaking skills. You transmute the research skills.
Also all of these people prefer to speak slower so its like going back to the D-leagues and you can articulate.
Not just speaking about these girls but saying you have to know how to speak well before you speed up.
Anthony Diaz
>Niggers use white guilt on leftists to win Let me guess, the noggers are redpilled too? why are you even here