Ask a Socialist anything

I'm lefty af so this'll be interesting

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Do you think REAL socialism and REAL capitalism will ever be tried?

How do you deal with the economic calculation problem?

Why come here to shitpost? Also why anarchist flag and not superior socialist flag

What do you do for a living?

How do my balls taste?

Why did the populist candidate in the 2016 Presidential election not get the popular vote?

Why doesn't socialism work?

What is the basis for objective reality in Socialism?

Why do you follow the discredited philosophy of a schizophrenic Jew?

What proof do you have of so called "progress"? How has man progressed in any way, shape, or form? Please note that mere technological innovation is not progress because no ontological change has occurred, a human today is exactly the same as one 4,000 years ago they merely have access to better technology.

When did you sacrifice your soul for Zionism?

do you think there will be war between the left and right in the near future?

Have you been able to refute the theorem about the impossibility of economic calculation under a socialist system?

>socialism =/= marxism

fucking retard

Do you take TRT for your low testosterone condition?

Are you a National Socialist?

It's the only form of socialism I can support lad.

How do you feel about national socialism? I think socialism is okay to an extent if it serves the folk. American socialism is jist white people funding black children to displace them.

What does Deuteronomy 15:6 say and are the Jews keeping the Torah?

>1 post by this id

>1 post by this ID

let it die, boys. sage grows in the option feilds

Just kill yourself.

why are most of you overweight lesbians?

He is posting with the anarchist flag implying that he is a Marxian Socialist.

If he was a non Marxian socialist he would have made that clear, because only a minority of Socialists adhere to that position.

Well my mutualist utopia of socialism hasn't been tried yet, so no. Although the YPG is pretty based
Liberal bullshit
I'm an ancom
Socialism has worked in numerous countries lad
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So since how long have you known you've had autism?

No it won't, you are a dime a dozen on here. You even have a general thread daily. Fuck off.

you lumped in movements likes the french revolution and union/labour movements in with a lazy kike.

not all socialism is marxist

ancom カイホイ alsi known as the 100 percent tax for everyone and no state to enfroce it plan. genious.

>Liberal bullshit
Great solution to the calculation problem! I haven't thought of that yet! Holy Shit, i fucking love Marxism now.

Do you realize that the most corrupt people on the planet are trying to push your political ideology via subversive propaganda campaigns?

This should be a huge red flag.

Real socialism has been tried. What do you think the Soviet Union was?

I'm an engineer
Right wing populism sucks ass compared to left wing populism
I'm not a Marxist, plus the right are far deeper in zionist cabals than the left
Read my previous reply
No, not really. A war between the radicalized proles and porkys maybe
National Socialism isn't socialism.
I do recommend national Bolsheviks if your still a nationalist with Left tendencies

They (revolutions) all arise from the same Judaeo Masonic lodges and Gnostic heresy.

>not all socialism is marxist

I never once stated that. But all socialism is derived from the faulty presuppositions of "Enlightenment" thought. The same is also true of Libertarianism, Humanism, Republicanism, Democracy, and all other modernistic lies.

There'd be no money, therefore no tax. Learn a bit about the ideology before shitposting about it.

how many fake dragon dicks fit in your mouth

How do you feel about helicopters?

>Socialism isn't socialism
Did you forget to take your pills today?

The not real socialism argument is the usual rebuttal to people pointing out the failure of the Soviet Union. I think he was basically trolling.

> muh rule of working class
Bullshit, in socialist countries all power is grasped by bureaucrats, eventually forming "nomenclature" of elite families.
This is how "rule of working class" looks like under "developed socialism": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novocherkassk_massacre
Workers are actually treated worse than under capitalism.
> "free" healthcare and education
Nothing ever is free. There are only two models: direct payment, when you yourself decide what kind of service you want, adjusting cost-quality as needed, and indirect payment, when money is extracted for you w/out your consent, and someone else decides what kind of service you will receive.
Moreover, since there's huge layer of indirection is involved, and nobody can refuse overpriced government-pushed bullshit, most of money goes to bureaucrats instead doctors/teachers, so you pay more and receive worse services.
> workers owning capital and the means of production
This is apex of shittiness of gominism/socialism.
When there is no motivation to work well, 95% of people will half-ass their work. In USSR, most of domestic-made electronics didn't even work when you bought it, you had to re-solder most of components yourself because drunkards at factory didn't do their job and nobody ever cared to check.
Not to mention that this is literally impossible. Average worker cannot even comprehend complexity of inter-organizational links, supply chains and other shit. Either such organization falls to ruins or group of leaders emerge, who grasp all control of it and do all decision-making among their small group, while working class cattle just does as they say.

if you are coerceed by a mob of people to give up 100% of you crops in order to feed them that's a tax. taxation doesnt only apply to money, retard. money is just a temporary store of value. there will also be money as long as people are creating value. food has a value. shelter has a value. clean water has a value.

Why do you reject the state?

How would things get done if there wasn't some sort of payment? I am not going to work if I don't receive some sort of reward. If the reward is free stuff from the government then I am not working harder than the laziest person.

Will you ride my helicopter for free?

Why do you follow a historically unsuccessful ideology that continues to fail in every form?

yes socialism, perfect for the working man. they steal from the rich and give to the poor like robin hood. but then they steal so much and no one has money anymore so everyone is poor and everyone is equal

Whats your opinion on National Socialists? (Keep in mind it's not marxists socialism)

You're not coerced by force, people work together within a community and distribute resources accordingly with resource allocation being solved democratically if it cannot be decided upon immediately. The only form of coercion is social conformity since if everybody is working together it'd be useless for you to set up a private business, especially considering the idea of a private business would be considered archaic.

Ok, I'm some corn farmer or whatever and I don't want to play by your rules, and want to sell my corns or keep them for myself. What now?

Wring a bell end thread
I know exactly what lefties think
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You are a problem because you are stupid or bad or a combination of stupid/bad... it's that simple

Nobody buys your crops since everybody is enjoying anarchocommunism too much and your business venture ultimately fails.

>allende
>worked
>catalonia
>worked

So everyone just decides to live without corn?

You wouldn't have the monopoly on corn.

You are a fucking retard.

Your shitty idea will probably end up with something like the Khmer Rouge.

In the materialist atheist worldview why is coercion considered wrong?

I don't care what you think.

Are you a faggoty capitalist dog kosher socialist, or a true Che style give out free guns to the poor to fuck the rich socialist?

I never said it was per se, but the guy i was replying to was accusing anarchism of being coercive, which it undoubtedly is to an extent but not governmentally.

What is actually motivating me to grow corn then?

If you want to continue to be cared for by the community as an equal. If you don't work when you are able to do so you may not see as many resources allocated to you - if any at all, ultimately.

Market prices aren't rational. Plus numerous forms of socialism doesn't involve central planning.
Read a fucking book. Neoliberalism isn't socialism.
Socialism allocates the means of Dragon Dildos to the workers user
Watch a Finnish Bolshevik video and you're easily Btfo
I'm not necessarily Against the state, I'm mainly against meaningless hierarchies that hurt the proletariat
Read one of my previous replies
Same here
Allende was overthrowed by imperialist scum and Catalonia will rise again

Sure, but the power company would have a local monopoly. Now what? Same with internet and othe r infrastructure services (roads?)

Shhh you'll break him.

Works as an Engineer. Check.
Autistic as Fuck. Check
Retarded Left-Wing Views. Check

I'd bet everything in my bank that your a Kraut.

>So everyone just decides to live without corn?
sound like the usual outcome in those systems

>>You're not coerced by force, people work together within a community and distribute resources accordingly
ooooh so taxation is voluntary. great. so you're an ancap not a ancom after all. wonderful.

So you don't believe coercion to be wrong?

I'm just assumed that you rejected the state on the basis of it being coercive, why do you find the state to be illegitimate?

>Anarchism isn't about cohersion
Anarchism is about cohersion

>Contribute more capital to society
>Get more capital in return

Sounds awfully familiar...

Ahh you answered me. >I'm not necessarily Against the state, I'm mainly against meaningless hierarchies that hurt the proletariat

And in your opinion why is it morally wrong to hurt the "proletariat"?

What if I couldn't give a fuck about the community and want to do my own thing (e.g. Entrepreneurship). Do I starve to death for being selfish???

I thought you said there was no money?

>National Socialism isn't socialism
You heard this man.
Now don't go making "NatSocs are commies xD" threads.

How's it feel to be on the losing side all the time?
>but real communism has never Been tried!
>but muh evil capitalism
>but muh nanny state

His face when his AnCom paradise turns into an AnCap meme.

uh oh, he's using bad words again.

>What's really difference between Communism and National Socialism?
To name a few:
>NS - nationalism based on race, not internationalism based on "class"
>Communism - race doesn't exist, workers of the world must rule over all other classes, dictatorship of the proletariat
>NS - Christianity is the official state religion
>Communism - atheism is the state religion
>NS - economic inequality is permitted, the race and nation are one
>Communism - class war, inequality is punished, kulaks must die
>NS - private property is encouraged, producer capitalism is favored, international finance is forbidden
>Communism - private property forbidden, without loans from international bankers communism would never have started or existed for long
>NS - race is real, gender difference is real, women should be mothers before being laborers, marriage is the foundation of society
>Communism - marriage non-existent, women are "equal" laborers to men, communal parenting, polyamory, degeneracy
>NS - the state sells off all its holdings in industry to private corporations
>Communism - all industries are taken and run by the state, through jewish party bosses who suck Glorious Leader's dick

Heil Hitler and national socialism, and fuck your marxist shit.

Do you disavow?

A power company would be run by the workers sure but since it's a little more vital, if anybody tried to seize that privately they may come up against violent uprisal from the workers.
There's no mention of tax in my ideology. There's no mention of currency in my ideology, not even markets or trade.
I reject the state on the basis that it propagates a powerful elite, it's nothing to do with coercion.
People ignore you and you fail.
There isn't any, and i never said there was.
Correct. Except here you don't have any CEOs doing nothing and getting everything in return. No stock brokers manipulating the market for nothing but gain while not actually contributing in the slightest. Those who genuinely contribute to the community are rewarded as people view them favourably.

Didn't reply to you but I'll respond. The proletariat has been exploited for war and profit for centuries. It's moral due to the fact that the proles should have more control in its economy than the ineffective and abusive ruling class.

Hitler believed that the state was the manifestation of a community of people who shared a common language, culture, history, and heritage (Volksgemeinschaft). Hence the term National Socialism. Members of that community (Volksgenossen) came from all classes and that they owed responsibilities to each other. For example, a factory owner owed his workers a decent wage and a good work environment and the worker owed his employer an honest day's work. Instead of class struggle, National Socialism espoused class cooperation and class mobility.
In fact, it seems to me very much the case that when rhetoric is put aside, most people agree fundamentally with at least some of the tenants of National Socialism. Our points of divergence are always on matters of lower priority.

You want to own property and not be screwed by the government? Good! National Socialism wants that too, your industry and creativity and initiative are all good things which should be encouraged so long as you help the People by providing services, goods, and wealth. Taxes would go down once we stop wasting them on corrupt nonsense and Israeli wars.

You want to live in a country where the poor are taken care of and bankers do not casually exploit and brutalize you? Good! National Socialism wants that too, the international clique of bankers and oligarchs are our enemy, if we reduced our stupid expenditures on foreign wars and bailing out these sick corporate entities with your tax dollars, we could easily afford a welfare state while still lowering taxes.

You want to live in a racially homogenous society where your people are not taught to hate themselves and their future is secured, non-negotiably, against foreign invasion and immigration? Good! National Socialism wants that EXPLICITLY.

We have something for everybody, and we should start reminding them of that. The only people who we are opposed to are hardline market fundamentalists and anarchists, Neocons, and literal Communists.

resource allocation being solved democratically

me and my 10 sons and their 10 friends each all believe we should get a greater share of the resources, it would be a shame if all your resources were to disappear and your house be set on fire, capiche? just remember who you're going to vote to get the resources when the time comes

Thoughts on Venezuela and all the other failed socialist states? Were they not real socialism or what went wrong?

Actually curious how does ancom work? I've never understood left anarchism. What do you do if somebody starts a farm/business and gives people recompense if they do certain tasks for him? How do you stop people from working for other people for mutually beneficial gains if there is no central force to put a stop to any kind of capitalistic system that would naturally come about as people naturally seek to do mutually beneficial trade?

Have a gander at my geographic location, mate.

>I reject the state on the basis that it propagates a powerful elite

I'm not agreeing with that claim, but theoretically why in your worldview is that morally wrong?

>CEOs doing nothing and getting everything in return.

Lmao, sounds pretty easy! We should all do that!

Serious question, how old are you?

You said people wouldn't buy his corn. How would they buy his corn if there isn't some form of currency exchange? Is this a barter system completely?

(((Ruling Class)))

Everything would be fine without fucking KIKES.

Where is my cheese?

soooo....kraut?

I should clarify that democratic resource allocation wouldn't be for personal things like food etc, more for large scale community decisions.

The Nazis literally gave control of the country to bankers and wealthy land owners. If you're into socialism with an ethnostate look into being a Nazbol.

>Illegal immigrants provide cheap labour necessary to keep our food low, Actual citizens will raise food costs
>Higher minimum wages for Natural born citizens will not increase food costs, Living wage now!

Explain this double-think.

Not surprised desu.

I bet you live in Islington.

i can't believe how thick you are. if everyone is giving the products of the labour to the collective in exchange for what others produce THAT'S TRADE. the measure of how much each person is producing IS CURRENCY. the physical place what goods are exchanged IS A MARKET. if there's no currency, no market, and no trade then everyone would have to be individualist self-sufficient producers of everything they individually require and congrats we're back to ancap again, but a shitty, inefficient version of ancap.

I hope you understand how archaic this entire ideology sounds. It seems you want to tear down all the nice things we've built for ourselves. I'm really glad you'll never have a chance to do any of this nonsense in anything but your fantasies.

Yes, I said they wouldn't buy their corn because they're enjoying anarchocommunism. That implies they have no money to begin with. The system they prefer is not capitalism.

> Why is capitalism the only system that commies explicitly oppose?

> it's like conservative Capitalism is the only ideology that they are threatened by or something

you're just dumb, uneducated and indoctrinated. or some mix of those three. the truth will blast you to the right further than you ever thought possible.

Why do communists reject science?

I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU BUY THE CORN WITH NO MONEY PLS RESPOND