>Moore’s rant is indicative of the growing three-way split inside the party: between the openly socialist wing of the party; the Democrats who believe that a bit of diversity inside the tent might open the doors to a new class of voters (the now-dying blue dog group); and the Democrats who think that intersectionality will win the day (the Obama coalition).
>Those who advocate diversity may in fact lose the passion of the #Resistance, without which Democrats cannot drive voters out in the midterms. Those who advocate intersectionality will duplicate the failures of 2016, when Hillary couldn’t push enough minority voters to the polls and alienated groups of Americans sick of being called racist and sexist. Which means that the Sanders wing of the party is sitting pretty: they can always blame the Hillary wing for insufficient ideological purity any time Democrats lose, and make common cause with the intersectionality crowd in doing so. That means the party will move further toward the politics of Nancy Pelosi. And that means abandoning the center they lost in 2016.
It's true. if you dare try to suggest that just because a person is a white male it doesn't disqualify them from being a good person who cares about minorities or women the feminists will rip you to pieces over social media. I've voted democrats for the last 16 years and I feel like the party is chasing me out because of my skin color and sex. Just like it chased Jim Webb out.
We have no real home. Our party isn't our party anymore, and the Republican party CERTAINLY isn't my party, I'm not a millionaire so they do nothing for me. Republicans only care about the wealthy, the business owners, if you work for someone else for a living the Republican party doesn't give a shit about you.
So what the fuck do we do?
John Wright
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Luke Nelson
Not to mention I can't stand the religious bullshit that infests the Republican party.
Xavier Gray
infiltrate the GOP and block them from pushing (((capitalist))) policies
Brandon Butler
Republicans are also divided.
With 70% of the voters being on the Trump train , nationalists and the other 30% neocons.
After a few generations the republican party will fully embrace the nationalism.
Xavier Young
Literal fake news
Nicholas Bennett
The entire backbone of the GOP is Christian Fundamentalism and supporting the wealthy while fucking over everyone else.
Nolan King
Bump
Justin Powell
White Democrats with jobs who aren't Jewish millionaires.
Carson Cook
They're a total mess. They tried to force everyone to pretend we love each other and they just ended up revealing how much we all hate each other.
Jace White
Actual Democrat here (not LARPing)
Hillary Clinton fucking destroyed my party. She is the worst thing that ever happened to us. I kicked and screamed and shouted and said that this murdering, evil witch was going to destroy our party, but only the Bernie bros believed me. And in the end they betrayed the cause too and supported Hillary.
Now the damage is done. That psychopathic wolf in sheep's clothing destroyed the future of the DNC, all for her own ego.
I'll tell you another thing, most of us know the whole Russia conspiracy theory is bullshit but we just won't say it in public because we're afraid of being attached by the extremist loons. The MSM and Clinton concocted that story to cover for their massive failure. Now it too is hurting the party. We can't move forward.
Asher Smith
What is this 2006 or something? The Republicans rejected any sort of relgious nut job and selected Trump. The guy who went to the RNC convention and said he was proud of the LGBT community and made every Republican in that room clap. The relgious fundamentalism is dead in the water and won't rise again. So what has your panty in a twist? The fact that republicans want to lower taxes and slash gib me dats? Well guess what until robots roam the streets picking up dog shit you are going to have to work for a living like everyone else and the fastest way to get to those robots is a healthy competitive economy that rewards people who think big and want to do something.
Dominic Young
>intersectionality
What the fuck is this gibberish?
Joshua Morris
how can i take any serious if they call the president a specter
Austin Sullivan
Bumping...
Ethan Rogers
>Which means that the Sanders wing of the party is sitting pretty
When they aren't attempting to assassinate republicans.
Oliver Collins
Is somebody lashing out?
Ethan Foster
If you're non-white, you must set aside your differences and connect with other non-whites to destroy whitey.
Angel Mitchell
that was me until Obama got elected
Joseph Sullivan
What are you talking about? The Republican establishment is just as bad as the Democrats, but letting Trump win the nomination while the DNC literally rigged theirs against Bernie proves the party as a whole isn't nearly as corrupt or anti-American as the Dems. But anyway, you shouldn't really support either party, but you should support patriots like President Trump who has done everything to help all American citizens of every race and gender besides his Middle East foreign policy, but outside of that, all his executive orders, SC appointment, abandoning globalist agreements that screw the US, and creating jobs are good for all Americans. What we need to do is remove all the globalist puppets of both parties, and globalist puppet judges blocking a lot of Trump's policies, and putting the interests of foreigners over American citizens like the traitors they are.
Carson Young
Bump
Joshua Walker
this. HRC was a godsend for Trump
Anthony Bell
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Jordan Torres
The US is basically going through the same thing that's been happening in Hungary since 2010, when a populist right-wing party took over after a disastrous left-lib rule. The leftists, in their efforts to get back into power will continue to demonize the head of state (both domestically and internationally) while fragmenting themselves into a million pieces, blaming each other for their failures and losing election after election without realizing they have no real policies beyond a hatred for the current government.
Caleb Myers
>Socialists Not even close. Take your shit democracy and ram it up your ass.
Landon Williams
It's nice to see Micheal Moore's transition to miss finster from recess it's going well.
Gavin Ross
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Hudson Lee
>I'll tell you another thing, most of us know the whole Russia conspiracy theory is bullshit but we just won't say it in public because we're afraid of being attached by the extremist loons. The MSM and Clinton concocted that story to cover for their massive failure. Now it too is hurting the party. We can't move forward.
it was either that or get investigated for pizzagate and corruption. Russia is a distraction for that single purpose.
these evil fucks may have killed their party but they saved their asses.
Justin Cook
why are leftists so fucking corny
Blake Wilson
It'll only get worse considering that the DNC itself is no longer interested in competing for swing states. Fact is, the party doesn't know how to be flexible and doesn't know how to communicate with people outside of hard blue states.
This is a big deal because they only have until 2020 to fix it, otherwise the GOP will Gerrymander them out of existence.
Connor Baker
>voted for Kerry in 2004 >skipped 08 and 12 >voted for Trump in 2016
Fuck Democrats. They made it obvious that they hate straight white males so I will never vote for them again.
Carson Torres
Good you fucking faggot.
Jason Cox
I can I enjoy seeing fear and helplessness
Ian Richardson
Well they pandered to crazies to get their votes and they got them, but it wasn't enough and now they can't get the crazies to leave.
Nolan Wilson
>the Democratic party continues to flounder and disintergrate as their propoganda falls flats and their crimes are exposed
What a time to be alive
Gabriel Cox
So sad. I used to be a blue dog, back when the Dems actually stood for labor. Decades of free trade and corporatism changed that. MAGA
Robert Kelly
>openly socialist wing of the party; the Democrats who believe that a bit of diversity inside the tent might open the doors to a new class of voters (the now-dying blue dog group); and the Democrats who think that intersectionality will win the day
Absolute fucking kanker if I ever saw one. Is there anyone at all in here who can tell me why should someone vote for them? What do they offer, except the assorted choice of non-white cocks, as if that is something anyone with real issues would care about.
Landon Long
>He has a two party system
heehe
Joshua Stewart
>sanders wing still sitting pretty Socialism coupled with the other option being Hillary is specifically why I switched teams this year. Until the democrat party can start being American again they will never win another election outside of their geographical hugboxes.
Dylan Edwards
Amen to that. The raw hate and anger is a nice change.
James White
Voted for Obama twice (now cringe worthy, yes) Voted Trump this time due to fascist anti-constitutional extremism shown by Dems. I will never vote Dem again unless they purge themselves of left wing thugs like Bob Creamer, Moveon.org, BLM, AntiFA, ect, ect ect.
We really need a viable second party in this country to keep the one in power in check. But it will only happen if the Dems learn to support the constitution, not undermine it. Stop favoring illegal immigrant over citizens. Stop trying to change population demographics by importing the third world. Stop encouraging non-citizens to vote. Stop pretending the Muslim Brotherhood are allies. (They are not. They also want to destroy the constitution. )
Sadly, the democratic party is a long way from reforming itself, and it looks like I will be voting Dem for a long time. Obama's OFA is loaded with these goons, and he is just getting started in further degrading his party.
Eli Johnson
Bump
Jayden Ramirez
Its OK when the dems shill the fuck out if Islam though right?
Nicholas Garcia
Oh piss off. The religious shit is annoying and wastes all of our time, yes, but suggesting they only support the wealthy while fucking over le common man is a joke and tired platitude, the Democrats do it just the same but more for supporting themselves and disguise it with anti-business rhetoric, while simultaneously institutionalizing corporations that have outlived their worth (see Dodd-Frank). They're mercantilists.
Cooper Turner
>prefers a 1 party system
heehe
Eli Ross
I already knew the party was collapsing when all Democrats were saying the Republican Party was crashing. They were projecting about themselves and didn't even realize it.
Jeremiah Long
This. We need to to GTFO of the Dems and find a new party that isn't full on socialist like the greens. Something that remembers labor in it's platform.
Benjamin Murphy
he already did
Josiah Wood
He likes it when a minority party can take over the entire government by extorting another party who falls just short of a majority
Jeremiah Johnson
He's not wrong. There are three overall types of democrats: 1) Shitskins looking for gibs while bitching about racism 2) White SJWs who also want to bitch about racism 3) Old white boomers who didn't get the memo and still think the democrats are a party that caters to blue collar working class people
Joseph Reed
It's pretty obvious that the DNC doesn't want you.
Luke Howard
Basically, whatever is your opinion on anything, your station in life, your class, intersectionality establishes that other races or sexes are having much bigger problems than you and that by being on the top of this pyramid, you are wittingly or unwittingly oppressing others. it puts you into a neat box where the kind of box you are in tells the intersectional ideologues to instantly know all about you, without your individual output - whites are this, blacks are this, women are this, non-white women are this.
This system, propagated by western colleges that are full of marxists, socialists and other useless vermin, allows them to claim that white homeless man is having more privilege than black millionaire. It is very useful, since most of these cocksuckers are rich college kiddies, that can still whine how bad they have it.
It is a system of usurping of power.
Wyatt Peterson
The division in the Democratic Party was there before Trump. Bernie rubbed salt into the wound and the division grew larger.
Xavier Hughes
You have to go further right than liberals with red ties on if you want yourself represented. You must choose the third position.
Dominic Brooks
nigger degeneracy is their policy wtf are you talking about.
Landon Torres
They lost both houses of Congress in the 2006 elections and then the Presidency in 2008.
Aiden Bell
>republicans only cater to millionaires >democrats don't do the same while pandering to women and minorities
You need to remove yourself from red teammnlue team.
I can understand why you may have felt back in the 80's and 90's the sanctimonious religious right was bad, but the sjw left is far worse in every regard than those nutters were 30 years ago.
I'm not advocating you become a republican but as of 2017 the republicans are he more sane party
Parker King
>the r/esistance >driving voters to the polls have the dems won a single thing since that bullshit started?
Josiah Myers
>(((capitalist))) policies so person responsibility? less gib. slashing taxes and letting you decide to build your safety net? I pay more in taxes than what most make in a year right now. Fuck the dems.
Nolan Ramirez
>the Democrats who think that intersectionality will win the day (the Obama coalition).
These people are the ultimate source of the party's destruction. And funny enough, they're pushing this shit even harder than before ever since Trump won. I've been a Democrat all of my life and am still anti-Trump, but I do get plenty of joy from drinking the tears of deluded dangerhairs who have ruined my party. It really is my only source of joy in this shitty political climate.
Hudson Miller
The cuckservatives like McCain and McMuffin don't have any real support, they just have a lot of media access and money. When it comes down to it McMuffin couldn't even get to second place in Utah, and Trump's loud condemnation of Bush family during the campaign only made him more popular.
Oliver Davis
That's an ignorant response that shows a complete lack of understanding concerning the issue.
Those Democratic policies contributed to the decline of Detroit.
Chase Jackson
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Luis Nguyen
Just accept that you are a populist centrist and see that trump has done nothing extreme and his platform is essentially bill Clinton
This political climate is amazing as the left collapses into hysteria and paranoia
Pretty common for Marxist movements but usually they have power and thus people die, this is just a mass mental breakdown that doesn't really hurt anyone
Christopher Perry
Seems only the democratic voters have enough backbone to question their own party
Grayson Hill
>I'll tell you another thing, most of us know the whole Russia conspiracy theory is bullshit but we just won't say it in public because we're afraid of being attached by the extremist loons. >dems refuse to speak out against an obvious kookspiracy theory that everybody knows is fake because they don't want to be labelled a kook Democrats are our national cancer.
Robert Cooper
Hopefully this will happen to the right as well to open up the election to multiple candidates
Chase Taylor
This
Evan Green
Top kek. Republican voters know their own party is shit. Why do you think a RINO like Trump won?
Jose Edwards
>mfw obama destroyed the democrats
after a black president these retards think its ok to go full socialist progressive. literally europe tier shit. how fucking retarded are these people?
Grayson Adams
Massive vote fraud, won't happen again.
Cameron Long
Blue Dogs were responsible for the omission of the public option in Obamacare, but most voted for the legislation anyway which is what caused a lot of them to get voted out in 2010. They were the reason for the Democrat supermajority at the time and their being ignored by the contemporary party is what's killing the Democrats. Believe it or not they're not dead, in fact in the recent elections the Blue Dogs grew to 18 members in the House, the candidate for the South Carolina 5th district was a Blue Dog type and he barely lost bu a razor thin margin compared to Obamaclone Ossoff in Georgia. They voted for Obamacre on the condition that federal tax dollars wouldn't be used to fund Planned Parenthood(stupak amendment) but it was gutted by the idiotic side of the party and Obama issued a loophole ridden executive order allegedly doing what they asked as a substitute but it was a ruse. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupak–Pitts_Amendment#Outcome I'm pro-abortion cause It stops the nig population from exploding and I like the idea of a public option, single payer being better and the ACA is terrible with or without public option cause either way it was corporate shilling for the insurance industry. But I condemn Obama's tactic to get it through, I agree federal money shouldn't be used to fund abortion cause of how many disagree with abortion, without the EO the ACA likely would have supported abortion, it does anyway indirectly of funding.
Christopher Rogers
If a viable third party can ever be formed in the US, now is the time.
Gavin Mitchell
I dont think they have what it takes to bring it to the streets. Still maybe I need to take up boxing.
Ryan Perez
It's beautiful, isn't it?
Angel Hughes
Used to be a group of Dems house member/senators who took seats in red districts. They were kind of seen as moderate and have been dying out for like 8 years now maybe? Surprised there is still enough to talk about.
They are essentially Dems with enough repub voters in their district that they will avoid irritating them.
Anthony Williams
Trump is a blatant neocon himself, so you can lump a good portion of that 70% with his supporters.
I'm not one of those "WAAAAH TRUMP IS A FASCIST" types, but I still think he's neocon garbage. I don't think Bill Clinton would've readily appeased climate change deniers and defunded the Dept. of Energy among other things like our current potato and chief.
Marxist movements don't really have significant power right now in this country, contrary to what you may think. What they've been mainly successful at is taking advantage of nepotism to infiltrate the media and educational insitutions. Even then, current-day Marxist ideology has become more divisive than it has ever been.
John Allen
Life-long Democrat here. I have voted exclusively Democrat in every single election since I turned 18 years old.
I'm also a white male, married 15 years, with two beautiful children.
I'm tired. I'm sick and tired of being called a racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobe by my allies on the left.
I'm a good husband and father, I contribute to my community. I happily pay my taxes.
You get the idea.
My kids are being taught in their public schools, which I have always supported, that their white father is an evil man and everything wrong in the world is my fault.
I don't recognize my party any more. I fear that the identity politics people are taking over.
I was a Bernie supporter. When he lost the nomination that was my breaking point. I didn't vote for Hillary. In fact, I did not vote for any Dems in the last election.
My party is lost. I'm sick of being the bogeyman. That said, I'm not a Republican and I will never vote for them either.
I don't know what to do. No political party represents people like me. I want a nice, civil society. If you have the means, you should help your neighbor. But don't fucking do it at gunpoint while fucking me in the ass.
Fuck the Democrats. They are lost. They will never win another election again.
Luis Young
It's not enough. Heads must roll, theirs, both figuratively and literally. Execution and ruination for the traitors that call themselves Democrats.
Caleb Morales
Feel free to create a third party and steal votes from the Dems. Just dont try and take my guns. Or join the repubs and help us vote out the corporate cucks.
Julian Lewis
>I happily pay my taxes. >gadsen >happily paying taxes stopped reading, pick a different flag faggot
Landon Turner
yeah, i didn't know what else to pick
Josiah Fisher
wtf you doing on Sup Forums? shareblue left behind?
Robert Fisher
Trump nomination was pretty much the destruction of both of those things. The Dems suck more corporate cock then the Republicans right now. At least just as much. For fuck sake they put Hillary up as their nom.
Nolan Ross
the democrat flag, or not having a flag at all
Andrew Smith
Non white middle class hardworking Republican voter here. What the fuck am i supposed to do? Dems only care about Obama's sons, and Republicans are being infiltrated by literal white nationalists who would kill me given the chance just because I'm not white.
Brody Cruz
Same way m8. I can't stand the SJW takeover of the once based Democratic party due to their white guilt narrative. I'm all for economic equality cause it reduced violent crime to an extent but I'd really like to see economic equality in action so people will realize nigs will still nig more than other groups regardless of socioeconomic factors. What I'm not in favor is slavery reparations and deliberate race based redistribution unless it's (((their))) money we're taking. Clinton received 20% of her campaign funding from Saudi Arabia and yet it's overlooked. Blue state to this day are more segregated than red states and it was kept quiet but some redditors called it out and now I bet they're going to go all out with desegregation nationwide, Obama pushed for desegregation in certain neighborhoods a year or two ago. I'm ready to jump ship like the Dixiecrats did.
William Brown
Which didnt happen for a long time before 2008. It didnt last long either.
