How do you feel about the Minimum Wage?

State by state? Raised $15/hr nationwide? Abolished completely?

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>black Jew
What is this witchcraft

How about instead of fighting for a higher wage at McDonald's, you move up in the ranks or get a better job?

When u add up my gas, car insurance payment, and depreciation I probably pay 4x that weekly for transit to/from work

Here's a thought experiment: whatever our benevolent government pays their employees is minimum wage. a rolling three year average of the bottom 10 percent of government employees (full time/ part time hourly, not bumfuck township councilman tier employment) is what a corporation is legally bound to pay someone in their employ.

mostly this debate is a giant virtue signaling jerk-fest for lefties so your real opinion is totally subjective. You need to answer this question in a statement that desrbes a comfy fast food family with great heathcare.

i only support the minimum wage being raised if it is raised to $2,000 an hour

Minimum wage?

Nigga, I ain't no Commie.

5 SILVER QUARTERS PER HOUR
(those 1964 or prev, 9/10 silv)
SAME AS MIN WAGE WORKER RECEIVED IN 1964 FIXES THE WHOLE THING

If you are going to have minimum wage laws then it should keep up with inflation. But want to hear something crazy? "Socialist" Denmark don't have minimum wage laws while "Capitalist" America do. Abolish minimum wage laws and let workers negotiate their pay either personally or by forming unions.

I can't wait.

>Unionizing at McDonald's

>I have to work 3ish hours to ride the bus for a week.
why is this a problem?

Because I only have $500 left each month after paying for food, rent, gas, bus card, cell phone, healthcare, netflix and beer, how will i survive? what money will I use for the things I actually need in life? Like an xbox and overseas vacations?

>have to buy a bus pass
No you dont, nigger, you can walk, its good for you.

AY YO HOL UP only 27$ bucks to get to and from work everyday!? Holy shit I wish I had it that good. Owning my own car - its 23$ for the gas ALONE each week. Let alone the tags, emissions and standard testings, repairs, oil changes, tire and rotations, taking a 4$ toll BOTH WAYS everyday to work, stickers I need on my car to get on the work property (Free Trade Zone) and in the end the value of my car is going down every day with every mile I put on it.
Yeah fuck off, you got it good kid.

just eat mcdonalds

And insurance, how could I forget that?

I wonder how much Satan's pendant cost on jew boy there. Probably at least what a bus ride to work for the day did. Stick with yo bus ride next time lil nigga

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Can any burger explain this 15$ meme? I'm 20 and make like 14$/h flipping burgers, i think it's plenty for someone my age without any completed degree and I live in socialist swedistan where we pay like 40% tax . Who is the target for 15$minimum wage?

Minimum wage jobs should not be a lifestyle. They are something you do in your teen years so you can buy pot.

these jobs are supposed to be held by kids who only work in them temporarly. They have become filled with many low skilled earners treating it like a career. trying to raise families on BK salary

Spoken like a true autist who has never worked a day in their lives

If you live and work in the city there is no reason to drive

is this nigger really a jew or one those original hebrews were black conspiracy theory faggots?

Spoken like a true autist who has a shit job.
This message is brought to you by an autist with a shit job.

"I deserve $15 an hour"

>Work minimum wage
>Be competent
>Outperform the drug addicts and niggers
>Make it to a team leader/assistant manager which get paid 13-14 an hour
WOAH THIS IS SO HARD

>AY YO HOL UP only 27$ bucks to get to and from work everyday!? Holy shit I wish I had it that good. Owning my own car - its 23$ for the gas ALONE each week. Let alone the tags, emissions and standard testings, repairs, oil changes, tire and rotations, taking a 4$ toll BOTH WAYS everyday to work, stickers I need on my car to get on the work property (Free Trade Zone) and in the end the value of my car is going down every day with every mile I put on it.
>Yeah fuck off, you got it good kid.

Then take the bus if it's so much better.

Not realistic. You assume competence and loyalty are rewarded.

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praise kek nice meme fellow MAGApede!

totally realistic, you must suck at your job

Conflicted.
I'm pretty free market and understand how the minimum wage totally disadvantages poor people. So, on the one hand abolish.
Raising it will drive automation in the lowest sectors of our economy thus making less jobs for illegals. But also, make hiring illegals more profitable.
Fuck it, abolish it completely.

english teaching?

Imagine waking up ever day

Looking in the mirror first thing

Hoping today's the day

Nope, still a nigger

Maybe tomorrow

>food
Stop eating out you fucking pig. You can survive on $15 of groceries a week, easily.

>rent
Stop living in Jew York City or San Fagsisco. Plenty of $300-400 /mo. rents in fly-over states.

>gas
>bus card
Contradiction. Also, gas is super fucking cheap today.

>cell phone
You don't need a new iphone every year. A cheap $50 android with a very basic plan is good enough. Everything on top of that is frivolous bullshit you don't need.

>healthcare
Not a right. You want better care, get a better job.

Most people in India and China survive on literal nothing. That includes all the random diseases going around.

>netflix and beer
>xbox
>overseas vacation
Greedy bullshit that you just want the government to hand out to you at this point because you're a lazy/retarded/malicious nigger.

I know I'm replying to some shitty bait troll post, but there are actual people out there who think like this. I know one guy like this. If you're reading this, FUCK YOU you stupid fucking nigger.

Spoken like an uneducated loser who will never have a real job.

>$27 for a 1 week bus pass
thats fucking bananas yall. dont mostly old people ride the bus too? or just niggers in the USA?

Which way do you think researchers at harvards bias go? Towards the occupy wall street types or the wall street types? For fucks sake.

To get 15/hr you are asking very powerful for charity. Not going to happen.

And to the "if minimun wage was to increase scary x will happen". Scary X isnt inevitable but those that dont want change are sure as hell going to apply as many levers as possible to achieve that end

amazingly, the concept of unions and higher wages and a strong middle class to always challenge the higher class died with (((globalism))).

Something strange around his neck

This

I make 2500 every two weeks and still struggle.

>Abolish minimum wage laws and let workers negotiate their pay either personally or by forming unions.

Kek, what an ironic opinion. It is the unions that one of the principle lobbiers for minimum wage laws. But wait, people working in unions don't make minimum wage. I wonder why they would lobby for it? Job security. They know it causes unemployment and will decrease competition for their jobs, increasing job security.

Abolish unions and minimum wage laws. End commies.

Yeah. Some places are cool, some places suck shit. I just managed to get a shit place this year.

should be $20/hr nationwide. especially for large companies like mcdonalds. stop giving the top execs bonuses and using money for shitty advertising/marketing dept and pay the workers who actually keep the business running.

You pay them shit, they'll give you shit.

Get rid of it. It accomplishes absolutely nothing except accelerating inflation. Even certain people who support it will admit this if you give them enough Socratic questioning.

This is communism. Supervisors will be making the same wage as a we wuz dindu with no work experience or work ethic. So no. Fucking retarded.

You offer no supporting argument for your position.

Living expenses vary too much location to location to justify a federal $15 minimum wage. Minimum wage should be at the discretion of the states, or even more local than that.

The CEO of McDonalds receives a $15 million in compensations per year. The company has 1.9 million employees.

Since you are obviously retarded, I will do the math for you. 15/1.9=7.9. Yes, so if the CEO of McDonalds agreed to work for free, that would leave an extra $7 per year for every other McDonalds employee. Amazing idea you have! I'm sure that will make all the difference to them.

>being this autistic
He wasn't trolling, it was sarcasm.

I make $15 in a skilled trade and am living paycheck to paycheck with my family. While I do agree that the minimum wage is too low I wonder if any of these idiots realize the implications behind raising it $5-6 overnight.

Large portion of these people are on food stamps, section 8, medicaid, and cash assistance. If their salary goes up a couple thousand a year they will lose THOUSANDS in benefits as well as get bumped from the 5% bracket to the 15%.

While I'm all for them shooting themself in the foot, the inflation for said actions will fuck me.

Cant, no bus routes go from the burbs into the city here the distance my commute is.
I aint moving to no shit city either to be closer to work.

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Sage

Do they have economics textbooks in Australia? So many of you niggers fight for the most illogical, economically illiterate, populist crap.

A high minimum wage almost always lowers employment among the poorest. And even if it doesn't, it raises prices, cuts hours/benefits, and cuts prospects for job creation.

8x40x4=1280
1280*12=15360
15360-6350=9010
9010*.8+6350=13558 after tax
13558/12=1130 a month

Costs
Bus pass = 50
Phone = 100
Rent = 800
Food = remaining 170/mo

Over 50 replies and nobody comments on the Star of David around the neck of TyQuan?

>money for shitty advertising/marketing dep

you're fucking stupid. a stupid cunt you are.

fuck

my marketing exe mates deserve their 250,000K a year wages. they still struggle to keep up with the luxury car payments and the mortgage on their 5 million dollar house.

poor people are scum

live for cheaper than 800/mo, where are you San Fran?

The minimum wage can be allowed to exist, but it must be brought down. The minimum wage should only cover the absolute basics of living for one person, not a 4 person family.

On the upside your would think that taxes should come down due to less government handouts. But I wouldn't hold my breath on that as they find other uses for it like lining their pockets.

see

I feel bad for them.
>No marketable skills
>forced to work shitty jobs that offer no opportunity to acquire marketable skills
>work hard, boss promotes his friend while you shitty shifts
>fluctuating shift schedules so it's difficult to have multiple jobs

I feel bad for them but it's their own fault.

Pretty much.

I think the trade-off should be abolition of any minimum wage but also a repeal of any so-called right-to-work law. Let them unionize, and maybe they negotiate themselves a pay raise, or maybe tey negotiate themselves out of a job.

Trying to give benefit of doubt

>working at mcdicks

A black jew. I literally could not hate a person more.

Meanwhile the nigger buys a $400 belt and $200 michael jordan shoes then lives in squalor.

Fuck blacks they are such scum.

To understand why raising the minimum wage doesn´t work, imagine not being a marxist and having a business, you have employees which you currently pay a fair ammount of dollars, but next month thanks to the new mininum wage law you have to pay them almost double of what you currently pay them, where are you going to get the money to do it? will you take a hit in your own wage? would that be enough? should you fire people to reduce costs? would you use cheaper low quality stuff to reduce expenses? would you raise the costs of your products? would people buy your stuff if they´re made with poor materials or at higher prices?
Now, your workers get those new salaries and go out to spend them in other business, those business have the same new problems, will the workers be better off with those extra dollars if the things they buy have higher prices or are poorly made?
Now, workers have to compete to earn those new wages, they have to produce something that makes it up for those wages, some jobs will be lost, remember when someone else filled your gas tank?

This. If you're the only one at the job doing it right, why would a manager stop their only worker from working? They're just gonna promote the hot girl.

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This nigger should know that minimum wage jobs were created to destroy the changes of black people getting jobs.

Minimum wage laws were actually used to keep black people from getting jobs created in the booming economy in the 1920s that had been in the north in the 1930s with the Davis-Bacon Act. They were used during the Apartheid era to put black people on an equal playing field to make an excuse to hire more white workers. They were even contemplating using minimum wage laws to undermine working Chinese immigrants early in the 20th century. That explains why the unemployment rate for the black youth is high.

creators.com/read/walter-williams/02/17/minimum-wage-and-discrimination

forbes.com/sites/carriesheffield/2014/04/29/on-the-historically-racist-motivations-behind-minimum-wage/#278e7c11bbdd

latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0405-leonard-minimum-wage-20160405-story.html

Also, working at McDonalds isn't supposed to be a career. It's supposed to help you save some money to get a career. It's a foundation.

Also, if the minimum wage increases, don't be surprised when you lose your job. Last year, when UC Berkely touted and got the minimum wage, they fired hundreds of staff.

investors.com/politics/editorials/uc-berkeley-touts-15-minimum-wage-then-fires-hundreds-of-workers-after-it-passes/

In Seattle, local restaurants had to cut jobs because of the minimum wage increase.

forbes.com/sites/michaelsaltsman/2017/06/21/the-problems-with-a-new-study-on-seattles-15-minimum-wage/#5fe8d566156a

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Can someone explain me how much McDonalds workers are paid and how much they think they should be paid? And how much you need to get in the US to live okay. I've been living in a crappy town in the UK on ~1100 pounds per month (after tax), and it is definitely not poverty (unless you spend all money on beer as most of my buddies seemed to do). If your wife also works, you can have a family with that money. In Europe an early-career skilled worker can earn about 2k euro after tax. That's an ok salary, like you wife may not have to work full time or perhaps at all if you don't spend much. And it is just like 12 euro per hour if working full time.

You're saying it like it is a bad thing or something. McDonalds is already replacing meatbags with terminals and I actually love this change. Abundance of cheap labour inhibits progress.

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Workers and clerks are being replaced with automatons and kiosks in states like California, Florida and others. At my local AMC theatre, they're used to be seven clerks printing out movie tickets for customers. Now, there's only one clerk for pre-ordered clerks, and the rest are kiosks that the customer can order on themselves.

businessinsider.com/self-service-kiosks-are-replacing-workers-2016-5

forbes.com/sites/realspin/2016/11/29/thanks-to-fight-for-15-minimum-wage-mcdonalds-unveils-job-replacing-self-service-kiosks-nationwide/#7b2b4354fbc6

So be careful what you wish for.

The fuck are you talking about? I don't pay them at all. Why would McDonald's reward that kind of laziness, it's not the customer's fault he has a shit job.

The funny thing is that black unemployment was actually lower than white unemployment before minimum wage laws.

Minimum wage should be zero.

pretty much how it goes in sweden

>high pay
>no jobs

>low pay
>jobs

And the fact that people want higher wages and more taxes on companies show how retarded these people are. You cant have both

You never heard of Sammy Davis Jr?

His name is Drake

I don't care about it anymore.

I did when I was making minimum wage but now I'm rolling in money so its not like it matters to me.

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niPPa get a real job!

Okay, do the people already making 15 get a raise? Oh, no? So, anyone making over 15 gets pay cut. Boy, that's in everyone's best interest, eh?

>being a grown adult
>making minimum wage

Normal people do not make minimum wage. Only lazy/stupid adults can't get raises

I know, right? I wish people knew this stuff.

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This nigger should know that minimum wage jobs were created to destroy the chances of black people getting jobs.*

abolished completely; the minimum wage is a violation of property rights, and it causes inflation and unemployment.

It's because people are too lazy to take the first and last redpill

Sammy Davis jr is a kike?

A full time worker at minimum wage should be above the poverty line period. We should be incentivizing people to work an honest job rather than the more lucrative stay at home collecting NEETbucks + drug dealing

The min. wage laws and the welfare state really did ruin black communities -- not that I'm saying they were great back then, but they would probably be somewhat better today.

Abolished completely. There is a virtual consensus among economist agreeing it should be abolished.

Was. That nigga dead as hell.

the minimum wage should never be enough to raise a family on. it should, at most, be just enough to keep you alive if you're working 40 hours a week. just enough to afford shitty housing and basic nutrition. you only work those jobs long enough to move on to a better paying one.

Higher wages almost always yields no benefits, and generally people who vote for it are uneducated, but moving up isn't as easy as it sounds.

Wealth and the environment you live in plays a key factor on how easy it is to transition into the middle class and a well-paying job.

Or perhaps you could do that by getting rid of the welfare state and drug laws? Oh no, that would make too much sense.

The fact is that minimum wage laws, drug laws, and the welfare state increase poverty, not reduce it.

I am literally retarded and make 24/hr.

Explain to me why you don't.

Maybe not retardd,but autistic at least. And I do ok:

Explain that plz:

I work at a fucking call center for Apple Tech support. I make 12.50 an hour. It's not that hard to find work if you're not a retard.

But the true issue is the cost of living. Fucking look at the housing market, the fucking banking institutions have a fucking corner on it. You want a house, you HAVE to fucking morgage. Other issues too but this won't be a rant.

*Now, there's only one clerk for pre-ordered tickets, and the rest are kiosks that the customer can order on themselves.

Fucking typos.