Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
Marx was wrong and communism will never work. The only thing communism does well is starve the population and kill millions of people.
Anthony Perry
>The fucking Spaniard already made another thread.
Jackson Cox
gay stage all fields
Nolan Evans
Communism doesn't work
Cameron Jones
Mfw I expected this thread to be full of commies xDD
Carson Bennett
"To each according to his contribution" is a principle of distribution considered to be one of the defining features of socialism.
The principle has its roots in the way that capitalism manages its affairs. That is, each is rewarded according to how much he produces. Remuneration increases as the amount of labor contributed increases. However within capitalism, the means of production are owned by a small minority who do not produce, but rather live off the labor of others. Socialism is said to remedy this by putting the means of production in common hands and rewarding individuals according to their contributions.
Nathaniel Hernandez
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Jack Allen
Wrong
Chase Thompson
Literally common sense
Asher Thompson
Fine, i will admit, the 90s under Yeltsin was a bad time.
Austin Sanders
The USSR economy was on a steady rise
Nicholas Lewis
Where have I seen that chart before?
Luke Thompson
You tricked me!
Cooper Young
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Parker Jackson
>1T GDP >1990 >Based primarily on natural resources >implying this is an accomplishment given the tens of millions that had to die or have their potential snuffed out for even 1T in artificially inflated GDP to be reached.
Adrian Gutierrez
Reminder that soviet russia started as a mostly agricultural country and became a world superpower
Jaxon Hernandez
Your ideology is flawed and run by kikes who seek nothing but to line their pockets with shekels and have the mindless masses as their slaves Please kill yourself before your communist overlords do it for you, you naive marxist cuck
Lucas Green
>Owned by a small minority
Literally your fault. rejoice that labor has never been easier or better paid and plow your residual earnings into stocks or land instead of posting 1920's pseudophilosophy and youll be better off than 99.99999999% of people who have ever lived, guaranteed.
Anthony Hill
>world superpower Solely a military power. Again, based only on the fact that they gave no thought to expending millions of lives for meaningless conquest, clearly forgoing future development or economic potential for their people.
This is why they lasted a sad, sickly 50 years.
Brody Mitchell
checked n kek'd
Colton Morales
Yeah, wow what a superpower! It's almost like they didn't suffer from mass starvation and their embrace of communism didn't lead to economic collapse. That's probably why they're still around!
Gabriel James
>expending millions of lives for meaningless conquest
A huge amount of young men died in WW2, though soviets were not the aggressors. Even despite this population grew steadily
Cameron Baker
Not an unusual characteristic for the commie dog
Connor Jones
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Michael King
from faberge eggs to the gaz volga worth
Logan Martinez
aesthetics
Sebastian Brown
tbqhwyf I'm impressed to see commushits actually try to defend the USSR instead of disavow it as 'not real communism'
Gabriel Myers
Stick around, you might learn some things
Levi Allen
>"Reminder that soviet Russia started as a mostly agricultural country" And ended as a mostly agricultural country. Remember how you were bragging about Russia grain and raw steel GDP not long ago? Hilarious how you couldn't finish your first premise. There's a reason why commie countries were called the "second world". They were just mildly better than third world shitholes if not worst than some of them.
Also: >Government enterprises that forcefully get as much revenue as they need inventing GDP out of thin air >people living in multi family apartments >"b-b-but look at all the grain and steel we made with tax money!!" >"We superpower by 2000" KEK
Joseph Thomas
What is there to learn? Communism doesn't work.
Logan Ramirez
Rude. Wasn't talking to you
Chase Smith
Were inferior to the empire.
Parker Flores
name exactly what is aesthetic about a sedan version of a volkswagen rabbit
Easton Young
Worked for Stalin.
"Hey, where'd my Wehrmacht go?"
Easton Young
Hey comrade, I'm very interest in how great communism is. Do you mind explaining to me how is GDP reliably calculated when governments run an enterprise with tax money as revenue?
Chase Garcia
Just personal opinion really. I like simplicity
Connor Kelly
>Socialism is said to remedy this by putting the means of production in common hands and rewarding individuals according to their contributions.
Except for some reason the state just holds on to the means of production. That wasn't real Communism though. Let's try it again.
Easton Wright
>Being a decade behind the west >I like simplicity. Kek. Commies are a walking parody of themselves.
Nathaniel Johnson
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James Peterson
I don't see anyone saying this. The USSR went from agrarian backwater to world superpower in a decade. I would say it worked pretty well.
Matthew Young
Passiba, fellow comrade!
Jonathan Nguyen
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Grayson Cook
>It went from agrarian to mildly industrialized! >just like literally every single non-communist country did as well. >Look at all that literacy rate! >Now they are just as literate as other non-communist countries! >I'd say this worked pretty well. Imagine having unconditional rule over multiple nations for over 60 years and your best accomplishments were the Baltic states, China, Cuba, and North Korea.
Why commies are so mentally retarded?
Michael Clark
>wins WW2 >retarded Why are bourgeoisie so schizophrenic?
Hudson Rodriguez
Reminder: commies are mentally ill and cannot be reasoned with. They are 18yo little shits who think what is true or not true depends on how strong their emotions are. It's the mental degradation of nihilism and loss of values. The average age of commies has been bellow 25 for decades.
Brody Clark
>best accomplishments
The USSR was a leader in fields of math, science and technology not to mention pioneers of space travel
Christian Nelson
Communism is inherently Jewish.
Jews are inherently anti-White.
Therefore, Communism is inherently anti-White.
Wyatt White
All stolen from Aryan National Socialists.
Just showing Jews are truly a parasite on the White race.
Julian Reed
But friend, jews are bourgeois too. We have common enemy.
James Harris
>But friend, jews are bourgeois too. We have common enemy. Communism is inherently anti-White and pro-Jewish because Communism is Jewish.
Communism will cause nothing but the extinction of the White race at the hands of the Jews.
Brody Bell
>sent millions of men to grinder >eventually better trained and armed Germans run out of ammo >"wins" With out subsedies from the American capatilist and bodies to endlessly throw at the krauts the Commies would have lost.
Easton Morales
A single rocket and some assistants can only get you thus far. Americans got the genius scientists, not us.
Zachary Richardson
>A single rocket and some assistants can only get you thus far. Americans got the genius scientists, not us. And that's why the JewSA won the space race.
Anthony Stewart
>wins WW2 >retarded mfw commies are unironically this mentally warped. I hope you realize that the fact that they had to go through WWII itself is a massive communist failure. The Bolshevik kikes thought they had the Germanic areas in the palm of their hands since they had twice the population and ten times the territory. They were even paying for revolutions in Germany and thought seizing it was just a matter of political funding. In the end, even with their "victory" they had a 1/2 k/d ration against an opponent half their size; which they previously didn't even consider as an opponent they had to fight.
Liam James
No, they had far more money. Space Shuttle was a waste of money, but it was a small waste of money: they could easily afford many more such programs. Buran was, meanwhile, one of the blows that guaranteed Soviet economy's fall.
Easton Thomas
Do you retards really believe that a guy spending 14 hours a day building a company from the ground up should be equal to the guy cleaning their toilets part-time? Capitalism is the superior system because people aren't equal, no matter how much you dipshits want to believe it.
IQ is a bell curve and capitalism allows the people at the top end to excel while communism stifles those people. Humanity (honestly just white people and some asians) has never progressed faster than in capitalistic societys.
Kayden Rogers
>muh K/D ratio >target saturation isn't a valid tactic How far are you going to backpeddle to rationalise your own dogma?
Benjamin Brooks
>No, they had far more money. Space Shuttle was a waste of money, but it was a small waste of money: they could easily afford many more such programs. >Buran was, meanwhile, one of the blows that guaranteed Soviet economy's fall. Soviet economy failed because communism is Jewish and thus inherently flawed.
Eventually Capitalism will fail too...because Capitalism is Jewish.
Blake Peterson
>muh gommies winning the war made for a better world
Lincoln Myers
Underrated
Josiah Peterson
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Jeremiah Nguyen
>but but but Can you stop crying already? My salt stores are already full.
Robert Russell
You forgot the spurdo.
Samuel Flores
Jews are evil and that's why they are in control of everything that harms the White race.
Also explains why communism is evil. It's jewish.
Though...if there's nothing wrong with being Jewish you should embrace the Jewishness of Marx, Trotsky, and Lenin right?
Tyler Diaz
>Can you stop crying already? My salt stores are already full. Fuck off you commie faggot. You pussies don't get to tell anyone what to do ever again.
Oliver James
>from faberge eggs to the gaz volga
So, you are ok with living in nigger conditions as long as shekelberg has faberge eggs?
Who's the cuck, lol.
Jaxon Adams
Wrong. Don't attribute malice to what happened due to idiocy. Soviet economy took massive, painful blows due to Buran program and the Chernobyl disaster, lol as an effect of perestroika. This guaranteed that should the elites, the rich decide to cut the country up to upgrade from 'about near American upper-class' to 'billionaire', they'll be able to do so. Gorbie guaranteed that nobody would fight for communisticRussia, and at the time nobody realized what ruin an uncontrollable descend into a more capitalistic society would cause. Truth be told, if not Yeltsin and what he did, Russia would have remained mostly whole. Sure, some republics would fall off, but we would end up reforming our economy according to the Chinese model if lucky.
Julian Bennett
lmao
Liam Gutierrez
>White >Jew Such a simple ideology. It is no wonder why it is so popular amongst rednecks.
Andrew Flores
After what Chicago retards did to Russia, the only thing USSR should be vilified for is not actually going through with nuking your lard ass during Carribean crisis.
USSR was always too humanistic and "muh farmer John Smith, amerisharts are the same people as us" retard.
Xavier Morales
Communism can work but It needs white unity. Communism is by far the perfect ideology for a society of intelligent, educated, hardworking people with Christian values. People who are intrinsically motivated to help thy neighbour and serve their community. The only race who understands these values are whites. White people will help each other for no material gain, they understand that there is strength in unity. Collectivisation makes us all stronger, in evolutionary terms 5 people are more likely to survive a lion attack than an individual. It is in our self interest as the white race to form strong bonds against other forces. Other races simply do not understand this advantage and are in constant conflict with themselves and others. Capitalism's only true benefit is it keeps these non-whites in line and is a motivation for socially isolated white individuals to serve society as a worker. In a communal communist society made of only whites with strong ties, communism will allow us to advance beyond our wildest dreams. All we gotta do is get rid of the mudslimes and kikes.
Justin Nguyen
Because Communism is inherently flawed due to its Jewishness.
>He thinks it's just a coincidence that White countries are great and happened to be filled with White people. Yes, I get it. You judeo communists want to destroy the White race.
Communism can never work because it's Jewish
Owen Thomas
Stop attributing Jewishness to simple idiocy. It was greed that killed the Union along with bad planning, not Jews: Jews did, though, benefit greatly from the fall.
Lincoln Cooper
Doubt so. Amerisharts would see forward to ruin it, so they'd have monopoly on the world and could force it's degeneracy on everyone.
Brody Williams
>takes 1 nazi to kill 2 glorious communist soldier >while the nazi is outnumbered 2 to 1 >loses territory in 90% of the fights >"target saturation isn't a valid tactic" >"how far are you going to backpeddle to rationalise your own dogma!?" mfw
Some things about the WWII are really hilarious in a dark way. Like how the Soviets were bragging about an all-female sniper squadron while sending them to a 75% death rate. Can't beat the mental derangement of commies; bragging about progressiveness while sending people to die by the bulk.
Nolan Flores
Racial realism and Communism are not mutually exclusive. Science is science. You could do well to read from the horses mouth, Marx, Engels, Lenin.
David Green
Suck the Rotschild's cock even more, for WHITE UNITY, mongrel.
Gavin Williams
Be aware that Stalin was poisoned by Israeli agents.
How does that factor into your ideological worldview?
Austin Diaz
USSR, at least, pushed the progress of mankind, together with America. What produced you, macaco? Gang warfare? Favelas? Definition of shithole country?
Hudson Hill
>Stop attributing Jewishness to simple idiocy. Why? It fits.
>It was greed Well, Jews are greedy.
>along with bad planning, Jews don't really have any long term plans other than fuck over the goyim.
> Jews did, though, benefit greatly from the fall. As they benefit from capitalism.
Jonathan Gutierrez
This
Owen Gutierrez
Tolstoy may be a good bridge between Christian values and Communism. He was an Anarchist of sorts, but his criticism of the Church and Private Property is valuable.
Ian Wilson
>Racial realism and Communism are not mutually exclusive. Race does exist and race matters. Communism wants to destroy the races, especially the White race.
>You could do well to read from the horses mouth, Marx, Engels, Lenin. Jew, good goy and Jew.
Ayden Perez
Americans didn't make our elites as rotten as they were. Americans didn't let a traitor rule the country from 1985 to 1991. Americans didn't try to speed up things you cannot rush, resulting in a failure of an economy and ultimately the Chernobyl disaster. Americans didn't cut out a significant filler of the budget by outlawing alcohol, having people die to shittty farm-made booze. Americans didn't start a coup within the limits of the law, thus completely ending all ability of the Union to fight back against those who tried to kill it. And most importantly... It were not the Americans who didn't fight for their homeland. It were nineteen million communistic party members. It was the five-million army. It was the almighty KGB. They all, all betrayed their homeland simply because it lately was managed badly. And this is our failure. We failed in 1991 and in 1993. Americans just reaped the results of our failure to see just what kind of a wolf was hiding in sheep's clothing.
Gavin Ramirez
>Do you retards really believe that a guy spending 14 hours a day building a company from the ground up should be equal to the guy cleaning their toilets part-time? Put simply, no, they are not equal.
>Communism wants to destroy the races, especially the White race. That's totally false. Come back to Earth.
>Jew, good goy and Jew. I knew you were an illiterate who too pride in ignorance. Oh well, it was worth a try.
Easton Edwards
>National Bolshevik HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >defending maniac kikes that almost brought a nuclear holocaust to civilization because it "pushed the progress of mankind" Is is even possible to be have a more autistic and idiotic political identity than "national bolshevik"?
Ryder Bell
Economic emancipation.
Jaxson Hughes
>It were not the Americans who didn't fight for their homeland. It were nineteen million communistic party members. It was the five-million army. It was the almighty KGB.
So you prefer the USSR to Russia now?
Jason Walker
>That's totally false It's absolutely true.
There is nothing pro-White about Communism.
Because Communism is Jewish.
You commies support racemixing, massive non-white immigration into white countries, feminism, homosexuality, diversity and multiculturalism. All Jewish concepts.
Evan Taylor
i come to these threads to larp as a commie race realist but i am actually a national socialist and i hope all of you commie faggots drop dead.
Luis White
Checked. But what does that mean exactly?
Jose Cruz
Why do communists deny science?
Hudson Bailey
No one gives a shit
Joseph Reyes
By no means. It was a bad country. It was always sitting on extremes. It was always eager to send good men to die for a cause. It often had food shortages and couldn't allow a lifestyle anywhere near what a standard American would have. It was a bad country. Yet it was home. It was our home, Russia in just a different form. And all those people who swore by an oath to protect it, to lay their lives for the wellbeing of their people, they betrayed it.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
Mason Mitchell
>doesn't know how the economy works >thinks value and suffering are the same thing >thinks workers deserve the returns from the investments they never made >thinks abolishing capital investments, aka, economic growth, will some how increase economic growth >supports public enterprises that get unconditional resources
>"what's in for me?" >"Economic emancipation." Never listen to the promises of teenage commie who has no experience about how the world works. Their mind is so deranged up is down and slavery is freedom.
