Can Someone be a True Christian and a Nazi?

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Yes, if you don't kill 'em. Send them back and help them build this, there.

>Send them back and help them build this, there.

How about we just send them back...

no christianity is about love and nazis killed millions and started a war.

No

That depends. Where does your loyalty lie? With your man in the sky or with your race that lives and breathes all around you. That's the thing about Christians, they always choose their religion over their race. If they can choose their race while remaining dedicated to their faith then they are more than welcome. If they choose 'muh Judeo-Christian values' and 'muh chosen people on the day of judgement' like Evangelicals than fuck them, let them burn.

If you're a semite like Jesus was, I don't see why not.

If you're living for the volk, you're not living for god.

Of course faggot. All the Larping christ fags here are turn the other cheek cuckservatives. A real christian is one willing to die for his people.

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Consider this quote:
>In actual fact the pacifist-humane idea is perfectly all right perhaps when the highest type of man has previously conquered and subjected the world to an extent that makes him the sole ruler of this earth. Then this idea lacks the power of producing evil effects in exact proportion as its practical application becomes rare and finally impossible. Therefore, first struggle and then we shall see what can be done. Otherwise mankind has passed the high point of its development and the end is not the domination of any ethical idea but barbarism and consequently chaos.
Volume 2 Chapter 9

You're really making things hard on yourself.

>mocking the literal words of christ
>calls himself a christian

Why would you choose your race over your religion when God will reward or punish you on the basis of religion you pagan?

No. Nazism contains many occult and satanic practices

I have a problem when Hitler prioritizes the survival of his people over the will of God. The kingdoms of earth are nothing compared to the kingdom of heaven.

>We National Socialists must hold unflinchingly to our aim in foreign policy, namely, to secure for the German people the land and soil to which they are entitled on this earth.
>And this action is the only one which, before God and our German posterity, would make any sacrifices of blood seem justified: before God, since we have been put on this earth with the mission of eternal struggle for our daily bread, beings who receive nothing as a gift, and who owe their position as lords of the earth only to the genius and the courage with which they can conquer and defend it.
Volume 2 Chapter 14

1. I'm not Christian
2. I'm not mocking his words, I am mocking his believers who have taken his words to content with their own cowardice.
3. The bible is all about living for the tribe and for God. That sounds like Nat Soc to me.

Italian and Spanish facism had Christian roots due to its catholic unity

German facism didn't due to conflict between Catholicism and protestantism and nazis adopted a neo pagan ideal(aryan) to unify its people

Yes. I am christian. Hitler was christian and nazi Germany was christian.

Hitler may have been non religious but that doesn't mean that there weren't many in his army that weren't.

>Everyone is equal under god

>Only the ubermensch deserve to breed children

>be both nazi an christian.

>Larper too dumb to even see this childishly simple inconsistency.

Jesus says that following him means making an enemy of your mother and father and brothers and sisters.

>Whoever loves his father more than me is not worthy of me.

It's contradictory to natsoc

It depends on which parts of the Nazi platform you support. Intentionally killing innocent people is obviously inconsistent with Christianity. So are the pagan elements some tried to introduce. But now that Nazis have such a bad name, why would you even try? Why not just take the elements which are consistent with Christianity and create a new movement?

since the vast majority of germany was christian, I guess the answer is yes

good to hear

i think the official nazi larper shit test should be ''Are you a pagan?''. if he says yes he larps

The faithful can turn away from God.
Does the Western idea of equality equate to God's idea of equality?
When God made the Jews His Chosen people was he treating all races equal?
When the Bible talks about the good slave master does it not endorse it?

being an hitler supporter, no. Hitler hated the catholic church and wanted to exterminate it. he also wanted to ethnically remove poles and czechs and colonize eastern europe with germans which is immoral according to christian teaching. however being a catholic and patriotic of your german heritage and society is allowed even if you lived under nazi controlled germany.

This is not true read mein kampf to see how religious he was , he was a fan of martin luther also

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I'm not a LARPing Pagan. Why would you choose a big man in the sky who you can't prove is real over your living breathing race who actually depend on you my Christcuck friend.

im not a nazi but im a white nationalist and i believe in God. I dont know why it cant be both

no, racism is a jewish invention, what do you think it means to be gods chosen people?

don't fall for the whole (((racial supremacy))) meme

GOD i just want HITLER to be alive TODAY. I SWEAR TO GOD I WANT SOMEONE TO BE JSUT LIE HIM TODAY FUCK MY LIFE THAT THIS ISN'T REAL

I don't know where you're getting this whole hating Catholics thing.

And where does it say that conquest is a bad thing in the Bible? God told the Jews to ethnically cleanse all Canaanites.

What's a true Christian?

God has noted your wishes, but He said deal with it.

Someone who's #1 consideration is the will of God.

How do you go about understanding what that is? Also, did the Jews not break covenant with God and lose Judea? How can you say that this isn't just a continuation of breaking covenant with God?

christ is logos. Logos is essentially the divine truth of then universe. If you accept this order to be true and live life a way that reflects that, you are a chrstian

the jews broke the covenant by not accpeting jesus. he is the son of the same god they worshipped and by rejecting him they rejecting logos and devoted their exitence to rejecting logos

SAGE AND REPORT
"NAZI" IS SIGNLING FOR COMMIE BY SHAREBLUE
STOP SOCIALISM
STOP COMMUNISM
NAZI FAG MEMES ARE TRYING TO MAKE YOU SOCIALIST

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HITLER WAS A WEAK FAG
GOEBBELS WAS A JEW
JEWS DID WWII

Read the Bible ideally.

God stopped being racially exclusive after Jesus. So if the Jews turn to Jesus they won't be cursed.

Don't you acknowledge the Old Testament as the Word of God? If so, how could you refuse the idea of God discriminating racially?

I understand the philosophy behind it, but when we talk about will, we necessarily have accept a cosmic force determining an event or act (prayer to God for intervention in some way is a sort of bargaining with with this same force implies the same),

Then what's your gripe with National Socialism as a religious contradiction? It could well be that Jewish persecution from the 3rd Reich was, indeed, the will of God, and of they could well be Gods servants in this. There were plenty of Christian National Socialists anyway.

Also, God being racially exclusive just means that anyone can be Christian. Nowhere on the bible does it say that multicultural or multiracial societies are just right on.

No. A Christian cannot advocate for the murder of his fellow man.

If conversion of the Jews can cure their sinful nature, then there wouldn't be any warrant to exterminating them. This would go against Hitler's belief that Jews are biologically conditioned to be craven.

Yes it being a nazi in almost as good as a crusader

biblically speaking no

we are all created in the image of God, meaning we are equals, the bible speaks against racism in a few other ways while addressing Jews and Gentiles. You can look up the issue on google for more information.

Well of course the Bible doesn't state that Jews are biologically bad. That's not to say that this isn't an extension of their curse though. That it's completely possible that the 3rd Reich was for that purpose as much as, say, previous Catholic Inquisition were.

If a multicultural society lead to more people becoming Christian, a believer would have to support it.

In order for National Socialism to be consistent with Christianity it would have to guarantee the greatest number of believers.

Obviously, there's some theological exceptions in warfare.

Who did Hitler murder?

yes

You're confusing equality of one's spirit with equality of worldly possessions. Slavery is not rebuked once in the Bible. Not even in the New Testament.

How could racial hierarchy not be viewed as Biblical?

But we've been clearly seeing that Multicultural societies don't produce this, but rather undermines the Church. Look at the state of it since mass immigration.

>If it leads to more conversion
Let me tell of this thing we like to call a Missionary.

I don't know how hardcore nat soc you are, but if you don't advocate for extermination of Jews, just separation, I think that is fine.

Here's the fix. Why should we be spending our time reviving ethnic identities rather than a new state built on the Church?

TRUE CHRISTIANITY

not necesarily

if you assume that every prayer leads to intervention than I suppose, but I guess we'd have to start talking about how go actually works then

true christianity? there are about 7,000 versions of true christianity.

and all the groups he mentioned were mostly catholic.

I'm not a National Socialist, I'm a pro-white Fascist. There should be a homeland for everyone, and I'm more about expelling the Jewry to Israel than mass executions, and not allowing them back.

>Reviving Ethnic Identity
There's is no contradictions in being a Christian and Identitarian anymore than there's is a contradiction in being a Christian and Conservative. Its not like your brain can't handle either. That being said, Identity is the only thing cushioning what's left of the Church in Europe.

Have you ever read the bible? Lmao

I'm not asking whether or not Christians can be Nazis.

I'm asking whether your interpretation of Christianity is consistent with National Socialism.

I don't mean bargaining as in a deal is always being made and carried through. I literally mean bargaining, not making contracts or anything. Prayer itself isn't always even a bargaining though, so I get your point.

because god's message of who the "chosen people" were was changed when jesus made the world the new israel

yes
the same ppl that would belong to a church would likely join the nazis

it's a us vs them mentality.
in groups and out groups

Nothing satanic about you retard.

No, no race is superior to the other in Christianity. Hitler often cursed religion

No one fucking larps like at a nerd convention you fucking christ cucks. And so the fuck what any how?

The New Testament is very clear only that Christianity is open to all people. However, it is very ambiguous about earthly matters that come to race.
Surely you can accept an African as a fellow Christian and still disapprove him marrying your daughter. Why is that not consistent with the Bible?

Yes, Christianity is intertwined with ethnic cultures in Europe. And yes, if you erode those cultures you erode the Church.

But, its not exactly like ethnic Christian Kingdoms are the best for the Church. They've been killing each other for centuries.

Why wouldn't you want to find a better solution where we avoid this bloodshed? By making the Church supreme and race irrelevant?

But evolution is a fact and thus christanity is false.

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Allah paradise is better than your kingdom of heaven. Checkmate christcuck.

You didn't really reply to this people can fall away from their beliefs to the false promises of the world and its men.

I really don't want this to be true, but it is

it can be consistent with the bible and not be, at least I meant it earlier, (((racial supremacy)))

all I meant was don't conflate visions of racial superiority with some sort of utopian ideal. there are people of varying character of worth, groups of varying character and worth, it only stands to reason the races would form an ordered list, but they all carry the same potential to follow logos and be good christians

I wouldn't say segregation is biblically forbidden, again, it kind of just has to stay away from separating races a means of purity, cause that would imply a utopia. segregation in the name of peace and stability I'm cool with

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yes

Freedom in sin is slavery. Just look at the world today.

When we discuss what's best for the Church, the view becomes somewhat subjective. In Earthly matters, the Bible doesn't discuss this because the erosion of borders and ethnicities simply isn't the goal. I think most of us can see what a disaster this train of thought has become, and it's like putting a roof on a house with no frames. The Church itself, I don't believe, is a proper substitute for nationhood or identity. Rather one should inform te other. The Christian Kingdoms fighting each other would just be substituted for a rave war. God doesn't make race irrelevant to man, it's just irrelevant in his eyes. A Christian Somali doesn't get a free travel ticket because he's Christian.

wow, some people are out campaigning hard to end mass murder of babies, how horrible

fuck off leaf

ever notice it's the same ppl that go on and on about how they don't give a shit about other ppl?
everyman for themselves?
if you don't do well in society it's because you're a loser?

they only care about other ppl fetuses. they couldn't care less if the child has a good school or food/medical care.

ever notice that part?

>comparing an unborn fetus to some idiot who has made choice or some idiots living kid who the idiot she be responsible for

how is stopping someone from getting killed before they learn to talk in any way the moral equivalent of making sure they succeed in life

nice troll response you retarded cunt, here's your fucking (You)

I think, they think, it makes them look like they have morals. but it's a pretty thin veil

There's a difference between racial supremacy and racial hierarchy.

God makes people with certain genetic abilities and they benefit to different degrees. Would it be Biblical to have a society where races are given different resources and authority, but still be treated with the same spiritual value?

I agree with 90% of what your saying. Just one concern.

Are you saying that ethnic states are the best practical method of growing Christianity?

Or are you saying that the ethnic states are the best morally?

And if a form of society rose that benefited the church, but eradicated any racial identity (Completely Hypothetical) would you choose it?

proof you don't really give a shit or think about the parents that have to raise that fetus.

why do you think you should you get a say in someone elses family planing ?

>Relying to yourself
>spelling ppl

Your retardation asides, you're presuming people don't care about a problem because they don't agree with our particular solutions. That's stupidity.

I don't think so. They were pagans, weren't they?

My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black triplets

This past Sunday, my gorgeous wife – a white evangelical, like me — gave birth to our beautiful African-American triplet daughters whom we adopted as embryos. These sweet girls will hopefully soon be coming home to meet their 3-year-old African-American brother and 2-year-old biracial sister, both of whom we adopted as infants. The normalcy of this paragraph is something I have come to take for granted. Yet what seems to us to be the logical outcome of being pro-life is still something that to others often needs much explaining.

I grew up as a child of evangelical missionaries in Honduras, very aware of racial diversity because I was the blue-eyed, cotton-topped white kid who stuck out like a sore thumb, but all the while felt deeply connected to the people there, even though we looked very different. My wife, on the other hand, grew up in the delta of Mississippi and it wasn’t until she took a few trips to Haiti that the veil of racial prejudice was lifted from her eyes. One of the central themes of Christianity is, after all, that God, through His Son, is calling people from every tongue, tribe and nation. Grasping diversity will make the world stronger as we marvel at God’s creative genius on display through His people’s varying pigments, personalities and proficiencies. Our differences are cause for celebration, not scorn.

>Would it be Biblical to have a society where races are given different resources and authority, but still be treated with the same spiritual value?
It's tricky, I mean alotting resources makes me say no, but alotting authority sounds okay I suppose

I'm not really a biblical master, just trying to avoid some pretty fundamental sins


>being this stupid
if you seriously think that saying a baby shouldn't be killed by its parents is "invasive family planning" you should hang your god damn self yesterday

>Can Someone be a True Christian and a Nazi?
No, because the Bible clearly stipulates that Christians are not allowed to discriminate against other Christians based on things such as race or ethnicity. White ethnostates are forbidden by the Lord if you're to exclude other Christians from living in it (black, hispanic etc). Any true Christian knows this and if you're to lie about it, or appropriate the words of the Lord wrongly, then you're either a fake Christian or a bad person which will result in punishment for you. Don't be a sinner, be a winner is what I was taught.

When we were still dating, a common bond that drew us together was the fact that Rachel and I both wanted to adopt. While we were fertile, we were both deeply convicted that one of the ways to be pro-life is to involve ourselves in adoption. Several years into our marriage, even as we were pursuing the idea of returning to Honduras as missionaries with the Presbyterian Church in America, we visited an adoption agency in Mississippi, where we were living at the time. We were also trying at the time to conceive naturally. Knowing that it is often more challenging to find adoptive homes in the United States for non-Caucasian children we informed the agency that we were willing to accept any child except a fully Caucasian child. We did this with the deeply held conviction that if the Lord wanted us to have a fully Caucasian child my wife would conceive naturally.

When we began the adoption process we knew race could play a major role in our family dynamics, which led us to ponder deeply what a racially diverse family would look like. We believe when you look into any human’s eyes, you look into the face of an image-bearer of God – into the eyes of a person whose soul is eternal. While that is the common thread of all humanity, it doesn’t mean our racial differences are insignificant. We see the human family’s varying physical characteristics as awesome reminders of God’s creative brilliance. It’s not that we think race doesn’t exist, or that we don’t see it. In fact, it’s the opposite – we see it, and we embrace it.

Not trying to troll I don`t know if is what you are asking but why anyone want to be a Nazi nowadays, I think white people has to unite globally in a new form of mutual respect.

There is something beautiful and enriching being the only white face sitting and chatting with some of my African-American friends as my son gets his hair cut. There is also something wonderful in the relationship that is built as my wife asks a black friend on Facebook how to care for our biracial daughter’s hair. The beauty of a multi-ethnic family is found there, in the fact that the differences are the very thing that make ours richer and fuller. It forces you to think in a new way about the way you think, speak, act and live.

When we met with the NEDC, we were again faced with the question of what ethnicity we would choose for our adopted embryos. We wanted additional siblings to feel connected to our first two children racially, and asked the team at the NEDC if we could be matched with African-American embryos. They agreed with our thoughts about our kids matching each other racially and were supportive of the decision to select African American embryos.

In September of last year, we had two embryos implanted and began the long wait to see whether the transfer was successful. The day to visit the doctor could not come fast enough. Six weeks after the transfer we made a very nervous trip to the local hospital in Honduras, where we were serving as full-time missionaries. We began to describe everything to our doctor in broken Spanish. He asked us a few times if we were sure that we had transferred two embryos. Yes, of course we were sure, we said. However, one of those embryos had split in two inside Rachel’s womb. She was indeed pregnant- not only with twins, but triplets!

I felt sheer delight during this pregnancy watching my son and daughter, with his dark brown skin and her with the ringlet hair and slightly tan skin, kiss my white wife’s growing belly. Each evening they said good night to those three growing little girls in her belly, and now they get to finally say sweet dreams to their baby sisters — face-to-adorable-face.

wow. so you do care about other ppl?


I thought you were just a shallow prig.

At the height of Christian influence, most countries were fairly homogeneous. The more mass travelling occurred, the weaker it became. Missions not only spread Christianity, but did so without fracturing it's starting points. Allowing in whoever is not only not guarantee of conversion, but fractures society. An ethnic state, in the content of Christian doctrine, is neither moral or immoral. Its only outside of Christian doctrine that it can be argued.

saying a baby ? your a goddamn hero.

forcing ppl to have kids no one wants because ?

because no one wants you either, but i still think it would be a sin to kill you

Source for this. Scripture doesn't even address such a thing.

It always was only a papist infiltration of former Christian Prussia, and since papists are heretics, no, O.P. No, one cannot.

a sin? oh, forcing others to raise kids they don't want because of your superstition?

seriously though, LIFE is a fucking burden, why am I supposed to allow murder to occur so irresponsible fucks who can;t wear a condom have an even easier time at life, it's crazy that people think like this
;^)

>allow
who the fuck are you again?