So Spencer finally went off on the alt light and split us down the center. Sup Forums was supposed to be a mixture of everyone, joking while taking in white nationalist talking points sincerely even if you weren't White. It was a lively debate. Now the actual neo-nazi's are going full blast to back up their ineffective "leader" of the Alt-Right, Richard Spencer. It's gone so far that some are now likening the Alt-Lite as the enemy of pol. It's pathetic and I think those like me who have been ironically participating in this rhetoric are done with your hate as well. What makes you better than Islamofascists? Same poisonous solutions. What is Spencer's endgame? He couldn't amass an army if he tried. I don't even think Hitler himself could pull off an Ethno-State in America, we're already the melting pot of the world. It's too late. Spencer's strategy is wrong. You're wrong. Sort yourself out, you pale Nazi fucks. Have fun with ugly ass chicks who hang out with the likes of pudgy Matt Heimbach. We'll be partying with hot Republican babes who are somewhat racist.
>TLDR: Get a grip and forget about the joos goyim.
Well I wouldn't take it too kindly if the Alt-Light were accusing me of sexually molesting young boys either. Not to mention Laura Jewmer's public defense fund scam which Richard ripped wide open, aswell as Mike Cernovitch's mental issues.
Nicholas Ramirez
Laura Jewmer is a disgusting, opportunist kike. Spencer would've been wrong not to countersignal her. We all have mixed views on Spencer but stop trying to divide us further.
Caleb Williams
I don't get the hate on Loomer. She went up to Chelsea Clinton at a book signing and asked her to sign the book for Juanita Broaddrick and told her her dad was a rapist.
Not long after she put a Burqa on the Fearless Girls statue and pissed off a bunch of lame liberal tourists in NYC.
But as soon as she interrupts Julius Caesar to bring attention to political violence, the Alt Right feels like it's their duty to defend theatre and name the jew. Sounds pretty faggy to me. Also, she didn't use SJW tactics to shut it down. She used normal prank tactics that we all use including Sam Hyde. You're only mad because she's a jew and that's stupid.
Landon Brooks
> get a grip > forget about the joos Pick one. Also how did Spencer "Split us down the center" Us meaning pol? If that is what you're referring to, pol is never unified, on anything. We were damn near split down the center on the Syria bombing, closest thing I've ever seen to unification was the Trump campaign, and even then there was quite a bit of divisiveness from shareblue shills.
assuming you're actually here for a discussion and not just to shit post anyways.
Julian Jackson
Split as in alt light v alt right. I wouldn't even consider shills as part of pol's actual community. There is a minority of "others" but it's just more easily broken down to alt light or New Right and alt right. Spencer taking to fight to the New Right is just dumb. So is planning a torch lit rally mirroring imagery of the KKK. How the Alt Right still thinks he's an effective leader I won't know.
Elijah Rodriguez
This is the comment a shitskin the_donald makes when he finds out that pol isn't satire.
Nolan White
I hate how just because I'm blond people start talking about the Nazis Germans can do whatever they want in Germany. The clash of Empires lead to it's downfall, the result is a tragedy, and yet dems defend this vehemently while conservakikes "ignore it"
Adam Garcia
KKK larp is retarded. Very bad idea. What do you mean "taking the fight to the alt light"? The Cernovich thing? If those allegations are true, we don't need homosexuals leading our movement, or really any movement.
Joshua Morgan
Spencer's optics and strategy do more harm than good for the movement he keeps saying he started. It's time to just take in the research and hide among society. Get a white gf. Increase those white baby numbers. Don't get fired from your job because you were pictured with a Nazi flag at a rally. That does nothing for the cause. Just take what you've learned and rejoin society.
LARPing is degenerate for sure.
Cameron Hughes
So your strategy is literally do nothing?... Sooner or later white people will wake up to the fact that we are being replaced with a foreign populous and they will say, enough is enough, this country was created for white people, not immigrants. I mean, look at the comments of that youtube immigrants video. Very telling.
Julian Cooper
Not nothing. Every movement needs a leader. I'm just saying Spencer is a bad one. His talks are fine, it's just he's exceptionally bad at everything else and I hate how his attitude reflects in his followers online as they reenact his hateful ego towards people who don't like him. I thought Damigo had a better voice but he's falling in line with Spencer after the recent fallout. I like Lana Lokteff's approach to all of these subjects with her welcoming soft voice.
Evan Bennett
Spencer's a Nazbol yank. What does he know about southern heritage? He needs to focus on other topics and let people like the League of the South defend that topic.
Jaxson Thomas
>Oy vey goyim!!! Love the jews!!! love them and support them. They never do anything wrong. Were here to help you
Liam Hall
All e-celebs are cancer.
James White
>alt right >us Taking on a label from the MSM was your first mistake.
Luis Perry
>Everything is ok goy-boy. Just sit behind your computer and jack off to trap porn. Pay no attention to reality. The only real things are what we have constructed for you.
Parker Edwards
Ill go ahead and screen shot this and reply with it every time you post this thread for the next few days. IE will win in the war against you jew child fuckers. Make a new script >NOOOOOOOO THE SHECKELSSS IT WILLL COSTTTT NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Isaac Murphy
>Board on Sup Forums supposed to be Stopped reading right there, go back to TD
Hunter Edwards
>Jew! Go back to TD!
is not an argument, just like
>Racist! Xenophobe!
is not an argument either.
Colton Cruz
Because those don't help the white cause, they're just the right-wing version of antifa actions. Everyone around here gets accused of mining right-wing drama for fame, career and shekels but she strikes me as one who it's most likely to be true of. Those things are all just stunts without meaning. Has it escaped people's notice that she's a Jew? I mean really, y'all are slipping.
Cooper Cox
How was Loomer's prank any different than any of the HWNDU pranks?
Isaiah Perez
Yeah there's a strain of thought, helped along by 'journalists' imo that says that these free-speech confrontations somehow promote our cause. Sure, we're all impatient to DO something, but I see not too much coming of these clashes. They're too convenient, like looking for your keys under the lamppost where it's light rather than in the dark where you dropped them.
Easton Ortiz
What fallout.. I still have no idea what you're talking about.. The Cernovich thing? Where he exposed him in an article? Obviously he's not the best leader but it's better than not having one at all.
Landon Peterson
I agree, he's got a "there can be only one" attitude. You say Damigo has sided with him? That in itself isn't unexpected, but he used to be close to Greg Johnson, I hope that hasn't changed.
Jaxon Butler
Sup Forums
Matthew Diaz
Not the guy you replied to, but I took him as meaning the Greg Johnson split. Both sides are now saying no-one should associate with the other.
Joshua Lopez
/Loomer/
Jaxon Gray
Spencer showed who he is when he paraded himself to the media.
They will always make someone that far right look bad, no matter what you say or do. He was too vain to see that.
Dylan Collins
Ideology is a hell of a drug. All these kids think they've figured out the meaning of life because they've read some Evola and listened to Spencer speeches. Viewing other groups of people as the enemy will always come back to bite you in the ass, and these other people that you deem inferior could potentially be the person to save your life one day.
Hatred is going to destroy you, we're all brothers on this planet, there's something inherent to the human being that's much deeper than race, personality, or mannerisms, the source we all share.
Jacob Gray
>forget about the jews
If the races should come together for anything, it is to KILL the jews.
Cameron Morris
>even if you weren't White
>They will always make someone that far right look bad, no matter what you say or do. So why not just go fully fasc?
Grayson Young
? HWNDU pranks were clearly just pranks, Loomer is implying hers are for a purpose, and oh, look at her, and by the way, freelaura.com and here's my gofundme with a $25K goal (when some user estimated that the fine would be $1K).
Dominic Ross
I don't think Loomer is looking to defame her journalism career and cash out for a measly $25k. That's preposterous.
Nathaniel Rogers
op i'm impressed you could type all this with so many dicks in your math and ass
Xavier Diaz
Spencer did nothing wrong
>torches are KKK
He's literally framing his entire aesthetic off of european nationalist movements, which use torches all the time.
Ethan Harris
>the actual neo-nazi's >Richard Spencer >Our leader
kys. We've been warning you fucking retards for months he was a liability and a cancer, and all the time it was "no, kike, d&c." So fuck off. You made this bed with your autism and ignorance, lay in it.
Easton Wilson
Source of Spencer's intentions?
Levi Hill
The torches weren't his decision btw, though I guess he approved. I don't know who was in charge actually, but they were going to go with candles (afraid of the optics of torches) and some young guy said 'fuck that we'll do torches' and so it was.
Tyler Thomas
She's a posturing shithead like the oathcucks, stop defending her.
Adam Lopez
So what do you suggest? Wait for a new Hitler? It's nice, and helpful to have a spokesperson, to push public opinion around. You know, both Spencer and Damigo are independently wealthy (Spencer more than Damigo is my impression). So look for someone who's rich /and/ fashy. Good luck to us all.
Henry Allen
I'm not sure if he's ever explicitly stated it as much, but let's see. 1) Calling himself an Identitarian, which was the european term for quasi-racial nationalist movements like Generation Identitaire. 2) Frequently works with european counterparts and believes in a pan-white civilization bloc. 3) Works closely with Identity Evropa whose leader, Nathan Damigo, *has* explicitly said he's basing his organization and aesthetic off of european identitarians. 4) Frequently criticizes WN 1.0 types that can't leave old logos and slogans in the past (his objection to the use of "white genocide" perhaps being the most controversial
I could probably go on but you get the point
It was an IE organized event, though he was definitely the star.
Mason Gutierrez
Dicky Spencer and the rest of the alt kike are nothing more than posturing conmen.
Cameron Rodriguez
No. You being a jew is definitely an argument. You are a liar, just like your father, for he was the father of all lies.
Zachary Young
All they did was march for 5 minutes for a photo op, the police then told them to fuck off and they left without a sound. They are posturing shecklegrubers, stop shilling for them.
Parker Watson
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Mason Walker
>Spencer wrote something positive about a group that isn't 100% white
He's also said nice things about black nationalists and Tulsi fucking Gabbard. Clearly he's a Hindu Black Panther.
David Williams
>it's 2017 and you're still white Nice try shill
Owen White
>rich
You fucking fool. Hitler's greatest strength was that he came from the working class. He was one of the people, and they knew he wasn't going to jew them.
Someone that's rich isn't going to get us anywhere. Spencer's problems are much greater than that: He has a beta jaw, which means he will never be an appeal to women outside the movement, he isn't a good speaker, he's not very good at explaining himself, he has zero organization skills, he lacks charisma and he lacks experience. He was never going to be a significant leader for us, and it's better to recognize that now. We need a new Rockwell, and yeah, that's going to be hard to find. But we are a movement that has been chased into the shadows, beaten, killed and lied about for 70 years. We can do the hard thing. Don't wuss out on it so early.
Austin Perez
Fuck off back to leftypol you dumb niggerfaggot.
Luke Gutierrez
Oh boy, another shill/shitposting thread.
Adrian Garcia
They dont have a strasserite flair, had make do. Might switch to fascist though.
Juan Stewart
I don't care about some edgy gated community liberal that won't even say NIGGER in public. Take your PR shit, your moralfaggorty, your UNREPENTANT KIKERY SHILLING AND FUCK OFF BACK TO TRS YOU DUMB KIKES I K E S
Carter Rivera
Has spencer ever named the jew? When has he ever spoken out against the jews in public?
Leo Rodriguez
He's soft on the JQ, but he's talked about several times and has said that the Alt-Right needs to be 'jew exclusionary'. Wish he was stronger on it but whatever.
Joseph Hernandez
>spencer split Sup Forums >by split I mean alt-lite vs alt-right >spencer's a leader Confirmed shill.
Easton Collins
Naive: the post.
All of history are in-groups fighting out-groups. Egalitarianism will fail and is failing because it's too easy to defect upon those who don't recognize group divisions and fail to understand the game theory behind in-groups and out-groups.
>but he's talked about several times and has said that the Alt-Right needs to be 'jew exclusionary'
Do you have a source for that? He says he's not natsoc but his followers like to claim that he is. I just want to know what his definitive views are about the jews. He seems to be a Israel supporter so who the fuck knows where his allegiances lay
Jackson Sanders
>complaint is won't say nigger in public >calls him TRS for it
Jeremiah Phillips
I dont have sources on hand but I'll poke around for a while. I definitely know there's been Radix articles about it. And he's not NatSoc, but you don't have to be NatSoc to be Jew-wise.
And he's an Israel 'supporter' out of consistency, in that jews are free to pursue their own ethnic nationalist interest, just like any other ethnic interest. It's not like he's shilling for AIPAC or supporting war with Iran.
Sebastian Young
If you go around calling black people niggers for no reason you're probably just about the same IQ level they are.
Angel Wright
Enjoy never having a republican elected again in about 20 years
He means that starting in about 20 years, the GOP as we know it will be insolvent due to demographic shift. Retard.
Alexander Smith
Spencer's beliefs are the Alt-Right. If you want to be more Alt-Right, then you have to fit in with 8/pol/, TDS and TRS types. You know these people: they are intolerably unpleasant.
People like Spencer can game the system by promulgating moral outrage and be rewarded for doing so. The bulk of Alt-Right twitter feeds now consists of outrage fodder. If he isn't CIA (his background is convincingly that of a plant) he's certainly the right leader to take the movement toward general neo-nazism.
That an Alt-Right leader hasn't been brought up on charges makes it clear that the pre-existing far right fronts are steered by CIA.
Thomas Jackson
Stop using kike buzzwords to label our movement. We are hitler 2.0 electric boogaloo.
Kevin Davis
Am I allowed to think Spencer is a fat tittied lard boy and Loomer is an opportunist cringelord? I pretty much hate every single one of the ecelebs claiming they helped foster the online Trump movement. None of you did shit, Trump did, you coattail chasing queers.
Joseph Nguyen
Well, keep voting in Trump GOP politicians and stagnate the influx, retard.
Oliver Miller
>That an Alt-Right leader hasn't been brought up on charges makes it clear that the pre-existing far right fronts are steered by CIA. What charges though? They're extremely careful not to advocate violence to the point of it being explicitly stated on the daily stormers site. Also, daily stormer's getting sued by the SPLC.
Austin Sullivan
>some are now likening the Alt-Lite as the enemy of pol Alt-lite is yet another Jewish/liberal subversion of the true message. Even the name is a fucking rip-off, and alt-lite-weights promotes all the same kike talking points of "racism" is bad, "antisemitism" is bad, "homophobia" is bad.
Liberals rename themselves over and over because everyone hates them. Latest new name is alt-lite.
And I don't worship Spencer. I just hate libtards and their satanic, vile ways.
Chase Anderson
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Nicholas King
Most people do agree Spencer needs to lose some weight. It doesn't help that he's thrown out of gyms because kikes get pissy though.
Tyler Torres
>oh look another anti spencer thread
its so weird how jewish puppet book merchants never get attacked here but if you are actually white nationalists there are 50 shill threads a day attacking you
>hurr durr don't listen to TRS, trad workers party, spencer, Identity Europa, Vanguard, stormers, etc.
>you might like Rabbi Media goyim, listen to BASED mike Cernovitch, you dont want to support STORMFAGS would you?? they take white peoples side WOW RACIST AND SEXIST MUCH??
Christian Davis
Assange was literally exposing government lies though, no shit they'd want to silence him for it. He isn't the head of a far-right movement anyway.
Andrew Rodriguez
Only alt-lite person I see attacked on a regular basis is Southern to try and call her a kike. Even mayne streem meteor and monkey mindset threads have calmed down a lot recently.
Kevin Richardson
>Spencerfags try and divide Sup Forums with alt-light rhetoric
>Spencerfags wonder why Sup Forums is divided on spencer
Sebastian Kelly
Why are you coming here with this shit? lol go to 8/pol/ and tell them not to suck his dick. This place takes more kindly to Sargon than to Spencer.
Kayden Cox
dude its because Richard Spencer is annoying and larpy college kids get all worked up. Yes every single one of them larps, go find them on FB they are all fucking losers. The "neo nazi" trolling was always just damn trolling, than we get pretend larpy neo nazis who dont even know what niggers lick my anus is
John Allen
in DHS material, far right movements are a counter-terrorism priority. Do you forget Ruby Ridge and GLR's death?
My guess is that the lot of them are rotten.
Why is altright.com a shitty tabloid while counter-currents and Johnson have been excommunicated? Is White Sharia just made for bantz? Do you feel encouraged and productive when participating in the Alt-Right, or do you feel anxious and as though your attention is being torn at by unending minutiae?
Nolan Allen
But spencerfags are generally quiet on Sup Forums in fact most spencer threads are created by anti-spencerfags, both the "hey fellow Sup Forumshomos, isn't Richard Spencer /ourman/???" and the "Spencer's a CIA plant!" threads.
Wyatt White
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Dylan Wilson
>But spencerfags are generally quiet on Sup Forums BULL shit.
They tend to share common rhetoric with the leaf above.
Christian Green
>Johnson
Well Johnson's gay and has always been a drama queen. He has few friends in the movement and a great many enemies.
>Is White Sharia just made for bantz?
Started that way, not anymore. It's disgusting.
....you mean general pro-white and pro-solidarity?
Christian Bailey
I can't speak for everyone but >Why is altright.com a shitty tabloid while counter-currents and Johnson have been excommunicated? Spencer's site is just for alt-right related content so of course it'd be like some form of tabloid + podcast site, Johnson was excommunicated because of an attempted takeover from my understanding (didn't follow that too closely actually). >Is White Sharia just made for bantz? I can't say I'm a fan of it, mainly because of the name, but the idea is basically just getting women traditional again. There's certainly a lot of bantz around it though. >Do you feel encouraged and productive when participating in the Alt-Right, or do you feel anxious and as though your attention is being torn at by unending minutiae? They've made it pretty clear they're not the end goal and the TRS guys at least are trying to get guys back in close knit social groups, the Spencer side is more focused on redpilling on identity issues and getting people to accept their white identity again. So yeah I feel encouraged by it.
Wyatt Bell
The most ridiculous part ia that people legitimately have accepted the title of "alt right" now. That in and of itself is an entirely made up and divisive term used by the left to mark anyone who isn't a conservative they can't control or work with to fuck over the country together. It allows them to paint this entire ""movement"" with the retarded actions of a few individuals who are so called 'leader's of this alt right, even though we never were to be lumped in with these losers in the first place! Im a bloody monarchist for example, and yet I'd be lumped in with kekistani faggots and the like because of the aforementioned reasons.
Tldr Sup Forums got rused hard and half of you fell for it.
Jaxson Roberts
>That in and of itself is an entirely made up and divisive term used by the left to mark anyone who isn't a conservative they can't control or work with to fuck over the country together. You know that's wrong right? You're just shitposting right?
Julian Sullivan
Fuck richard spencer
Post based black guys xDD
Ian Brooks
>....you mean general pro-white and pro-solidarity?
No...Nothing of what the leaf said has either of those qualities, you dunce.
Alexander Turner
>joos But they are actually problem
Dylan Bell
No I am not shitposting. How new are you? The first people to use the fucking term was motherfucking CNN! Do you not remember this?
Furthermore, my point still stands. We're all being lumped in to a convenient little bad guy group with a convenient little name that's basically the new neo Nazis. Libertarians, National Socialists, AnCaps, fascists alike are all being conveniently squeezed into this paintbrushed fringe group to brush us off more easily, wherein on the primary discussion board of this so-called 'movement' constantly squabbles about the bullshit of their 'leadership' when they can't even agree who the fuck is actually leading them when the leaders flip flop or go full retard in the name of the glorious alt right.
Its a fucking ruse m8.
Jack Long
You are either a kike or incredibly fucking stupid.
Running around calling people nigger isn't helping move anything forward, engaging White America in a conversation to calmly force them to realize that they ARE a people with a shared destiny has been doing a lot for the movement.
Evan Cooper
>The first people to use the fucking term was motherfucking CNN! Yeah you're just shitposting.
Cameron White
Way to counter what I just wrote you emu fucker. You're proving my point.
Daniel Morgan
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Jason Stewart
>What is Spencer's endgame? He couldn't amass an army if he tried. I would fight in Spencer's army.