MFW an atheist tells me the burden of proof is on me

Umm, no sweetie; it's the other way around. You need to prove God doesn't exist first.

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And you need to prove that god exist.There, I just saved this thread from boobless post.

umm, no princess. You need to prove Odin doesn't exist first.

You don't have to prove a negative you retard.

>"god exists"...........................................................................
you know what im too lazy to argue

You are the one who pushes morality, hinders science, and changes history because of religion. So yes, the burden is on you.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

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The theist view on where life and the universe originates (from God or a god) was the prevailing view first, and for far longer than the atheist view. If an atheist want to prove it wrong it's on them.

Besides, it's a lot harder to prove all of this happened without a divine force.

he doesn't. it's self-evident

the is no god. we are living in a virtual reality made by the jews to be used as bio fuel for goyim shilling units

>arguing with sweetie posting

You retarded faggots.

>B-But we were here first.

Actually, you fucking inbred retard, the first religions were Ancestor Worship or Animism.

Secondly, being first doesn't make you right, we're not 10 years old here.

but sweetie the sugar snookums oh ho ho ho sweetie pie

>you make claim
>you bring proof

It's that simple, you troll.

>hinders science
>"Huuurrr my Dark Ages"
Atheists know nothing about History. Religion saved science from both post-Roman anarchy and then from Islam.
You're welcome.

Ahhh...I see...thanks jew.

But Atheists are the ones with the religion to sell... I'm already Christian

Primitive religion had many personal gods, and they were fashioned in the image of man. Revelation affirms the validity of the personality concept of God which is merely possible in the scientific postulate of a First Cause and is only provisionally suggested in the philosophic idea of Universal Unity. Only by personality approach can any person begin to comprehend the unity of God. To deny the personality of the First Source and Center leaves one only the choice of two philosophic dilemmas: materialism or pantheism.

They're trying to prove me wrong. Prove it instead of being lazy. It's the biggest cuck shit to do since they know how hard it is to do - that's why they ask the theist to do it, so they can laugh at them for being too dumb to definitevely prove it instead of them.

Man's earliest prereligious fear of the forces of nature gradually became religious as nature became personalized, spiritized, and eventually deified in human consciousness. Religion of a primitive type was therefore a natural biologic consequence of the psychologic inertia of evolving animal minds after such minds had once entertained concepts of the supernatural.

That's not what their statement means you dumb fuck. When you make a positive claim (i.e. something exists), the burden of proof is on you.

reported an obvious troll + bait thread

no sweetie. he doesn't have to prove his claim. it's true.

The only evidence for your god is the bible, which was written by Jews. Other religions predate it and not all ancient religions are Abrahamic. Christianity and Islam are irrelevant to certain peoples, like East Asians. Are they not humans, too? Why didn't your god ever speak to them?

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...that id...wut.

>Are they not humans, too? Why didn't your god ever speak to them?
Because they were too busy race mixing and butt fucking and G_d was too busy turning them into pillars of ash and salt.

Sage goes in all fields, op is a fucking retard

Further proof.

>Secondly, being first doesn't make you right, we're not 10 years old here.
So much wrongness so few words.

Wrong

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

is nobody seeing this?

No, it's because it's impossible to prove a negative. Example. I own a purple dragon. He's in my garage. You say I don't have a purple dragon. That's a negative claim.
You say show me. I say he's invisible.
You say show yourself touching him. I say he's not solid.
You say show his heat signature. I say he doesn't have one.
I can keep making shit up and claim it's true, and you can never prove me wrong.
In order for my claim to be taken seriously, I have to offer proof other than "he totally exists." I have to prove my positive claim.

>ID
ABSOLUTELY CONFIRMED HOLY FUCK RELIGTARDS ON SUICIDE WATCH

I claim to have 10 trillion dollars worth of gold buried in my backyard. Prove that I don't.

The 2DS was pretty terrible.

God give me white gf pls

>Invented concepts made by an atheist.

Really fires the neurons.

THEISTS BTFO

>GoDno2Ds
Sorry, you mean weeaboos on suicide watch

Not making the arguement for either side but
>I make no claim what caused the universe
>You claim something
>I ask for evidence?
>You say I have to prove that you're wrong without providing me why you think you're right
You're just going in circles man

Can't, the burden of proof is still on you because you make a specific claim about some chr*stian interpretation of what a god is.

this makes me question everything ive ever believed

El oh el

If I write a post about my views on God and some atheist comes in to reply with "God don't real XD" when they werent even asked, they need to prove me wrong with their own evidence first.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Christian general for those interested

>points to ignorance of atheists
>religion saved science from other religions

Oh sweetie pea

>atheist
>selling religion
Would you buy fresh fruit from your plumber?

Burden of proof is on whoever's claim has less support.
Your fingerprints are on the murder weapon, threats from you in the victim's phone? Looks bad for you, if you don't dig up an alibi to prove you didn't do it you're going to prison.
Universe finely tuned for human life, use christian morals and reasoning? Looks bad for atheists. Time for them to bring something to the table apart from
>hurr durr agnostic atheism we don't know

That might be the most bull shit I've ever read

Man, are you retarded?

> Son, how did you test go?
> I got an A+
> Huh, really? You didn't study properly this year. Where's your report card?
> FUCK YOU, PROVE THAT I DIDN'T!!!!!

Son doesn't have to prove anything. The truth will come out.

No, you make the first claim by claiming something exists without scientific evidence. The atheist doesn't even have to try to debunk that insanity.

You goys, math doesn't exist. It's just a bunch of dumb symbols that amount to NOTHING. All that it does is oppress the people who see the truth. It may have helped people get through their life in the past but it's the 21st century and people need to wake up. Math was invented by humans and DOES NOT EXIST!

God yes 3d?

>sweetie

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regardless of subject

>sweetie posting
FUKCING STOP

sorry honey bun but that's wrong. yes it is. yes it is. it's wrong.

Mathematics, material science, is indispensable to the intelligent discussion of the material aspects of the universe, but such knowledge is not necessarily a part of the higher realization of truth or of the personal appreciation of spiritual realities. Not only in the realms of life but even in the world of physical energy, the sum of two or more things is very often something more than, or something different from, the predictable additive consequences of such unions. The entire science of mathematics, the whole domain of philosophy, the highest physics or chemistry, could not predict or know that the union of two gaseous hydrogen atoms with one gaseous oxygen atom would result in a new and qualitatively superadditive substance—liquid water. The understanding knowledge of this one physiochemical phenomenon should have prevented the development of materialistic philosophy and mechanistic cosmology.

>Burden of proof is on whoever's claim has less support.

exactly, and there's nothing to support the existence of God.

>Universe finely tuned for human life

that's very egocentric. the universe wasn't 'fined tuned', it just so happened that this particular portion could sustain life.

>God not 2D

Anime is pornography.

>exactly, and there's nothing to support the existence of God.
>exactly, and there's nothing to support the existence of God.

Prove it. You literally cannot find a theory for how the universe and life came into existence without "muh big bang".

pushes morality .... lets not be moral since your moral include being a cuck i see why you dont want to push this its your fetish we know such eliteism

>theist cucks believe the big bang did not happen
You deserve a free helicopter ride

the verbal jew in writen form ill just keep drinking the liquid jew and breathing the gaseus jew not all jews are good goym

Not when i do it

but can't we go around it the other way?

christians claim the Trinity exist
muslims claim the Allach exist
jews claim the Jahwe exist
atheists claim (its within the definition of atheism) that none of the "Gods" exist

nobody can pressure the other side to go first, every group has a 'claim'

or am i missing something?

>logic is hard

the fact that I can't prove God doesn't exist does not mean he exists.

and "God" is as much of an absurd justification for the existence of life as any. I could argue that the Matrix is real and it'd be just as valid.

I hate to bring it up but Occam's razor, motherfucker. the burden of proof is on you because you're bringing up a completely random and unfounded variable into the table, whereas science accounts for things that can be observed and proved.

and god is omnipetant and onipresent we all live within god ,ur thoughts ,mine are god is the fabric of reality iself and any pantheon must exist within him you?

nice argument

>sweetie
The sweetest of sages for you then.
You other morons should stop feeding this shit already.

Jesus loves me this I know
For the Bible tells me so

anybody asking for proof in a belief system is ...

anything, i mean anything is better then worshipping the fact, that we came out a monkeys vagina and being bound by no morals at all
atheists without a state would be bound by no laws or ethics but the ones they can immediately think up on
atheists with a state are literal properties of said state and are bound by morals the jews decide for them

No I believe in flying pink alien elephants. Now YOU have to prove they don't exist.

Seems reasonable

It really is that. I bet cavemen even thought god was real. Answer us first Atheist.

And before the truth comes out, why the fuck should the father believe his son?

"supernatural" religion explains the natrual ... see the problem here and i get you will say the didnt understand it well its a very strong position that we may understand everything oneday maybe religion is a byproduct of atributing the in understandable to people who are thoughtfull

uh, no. You're the one that posits a claim; the burden of proof falls on the positive claim. Atheist means "without a belief in god." It's making a negative claim.

There's nothing to support god's non-existence which is why atheists always have to hide behind agnosticism.
Meanwhile there's heaps of evidence supporting god's existence, origin of a fine tuned universe, morality, reason are just the tip of the iceberg.

>just so happened
>existing against zillion to 1 odds
>it's just chance guys it's nothing

bible is not evidence of god just as athiest arent evidence of a lack of god

what's the evidence the big bang happened?

This is always how these threads fucking go
1. Theist says some stupid shit he thinks sounds clever
2. Gets fucking wrecked in a quick and concise response
3. Attempts to defend his stupid post and writes something even MORE retarded, incoherent, and just downright wrong.

Every fucking time without fail.

You Christfaggots are just pussies afraid of when the lights go out. Delusional trash.

>You need to prove God doesn't exist first.

Everybody with the most basic logic training knows you can't prove something does not exist.

3/10 troll harder newfag.

what if i ask how can you show me ur purple dragon exists *just wondering what you would say take it lightly*

>thinks it's wrong to push morality on others
>pushes this on others
>doesn't see a problem here
this is why everyone hates atheists

ok prove animism is true then since you think its better then christianity
fucking hippie degenerate

>origin of a fine tuned universe

I don't get this.

Literally 99.99999999999999999999% of the universe is inhospitable to life as we know it. There are enormous voids of nothing, sparsely populated with planets, only a fraction of which would have the climate and other prerequisites to support life similar to that found on Earth.

interesting =)

What if god is unproveavle because it's concept is beyond that which humans can comprehend?

What if atheists need just as much faith gods not real as Christians do that he is?

What if you two sides of one coin?

and you think that flimsy justification for human decency is a good thing?

that human nature is so vile we can't be civil without a figure of power watching over us? and what's worse: people are so stupid they actually believe it?

personally it makes me want to never leave the house again because we are /not/ bound by morals at all.

God is an unfounded variable. that's why the burden of proof is on you. you can't claim something so absurd and expect people to believe it. not in an objective conversation at least.

>Meanwhile there's heaps of evidence supporting god's existence

like what? the bible? there's no evidence. at all.

>just so happened
>existing against zillion to 1 odds
>it's just chance guys it's nothing

the universe is quite possibly almost infinite and expanding. there are lots of zillions in that, dumbass.

bro tho whole prove it thing dosent apply here you cannot prove god or disprove atheism its a misnomer we have a word for it its belief the reason it exists is because it snot fact

and it just appeard, you use your reason well Sir

you are not buut thats why its such an interesting subject to debate

1. circles have no corners by definition
2. squares have corners by definition
3. therefore square circles don't exist
4. atheists think they might find a square circle one day anyway
atheistlogic/10

reeeeeeeeeee

Present claim, present evidence. Till then gtfo.