Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Colton Powell
fuck off, no reactionaries allowed
Luke Davis
Never fail me
Jason Howard
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Nathaniel Morris
The gulag fear the pickaxe
Jace Wilson
good evening comrade!
Thomas Kelly
Name a single, wholly communist country that has existed and not been a complete fucking disaster.
Luis Green
Fuck you, I'd rather band together with him rather than you faggots, who will scream "REACTIONARY" like it's something fucking bad.
Grayson Gomez
When has there ever been a productive conversation in one of these threads?
Colton Ramirez
> Trotsky.
Matthew Williams
Did you mean socialist country with communist party?
Hi there comrade
Daniel Fisher
It's not real communism
Samuel Perry
comac?
Lincoln Butler
No. Most commies seem to be masochistic. I think it's inherent to their ideology
Isaac Evans
USSR.
Unless, of course, you consider Russian Empire a fucking paradise on Earth.
Jeremiah King
Never because there is no good answer to this question.
Communist countries are always either horrific dictatorships or meaningless impoverished flyover states. There exists no evidence to prove otherwise.
>inb4 "but those weren't real communism"
Wyatt Garcia
>a collapsed country that murdered half its population this is your brain on communism.
Hudson Allen
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Eli Rivera
Oh good, I'm going to pay that country a visit... Wait...
Luis Nelson
Cuba >just compare their health care systems against the average burger >Cuba is supercovered in medical practisioners >They exports doctors, not bombs
Again, this economy is on par with many shitty african and middle eastern countries in the productivity and quality of life for it's citizens.
>they literally killed people who tried to leave cuba >the only way you can keep people in is if they don't know what is outside
Next.
Luis Hall
guba :DDD >jud gombare state reporting of guba helth care :-DD >guba super gud they say so X-DDDD >they export dogtor who flee from torture and starbation XXX---PPP >chegmate gaptialisms :DDDD
Brayden Gonzalez
hahaha, goeienavond
t. NSV Antwerpen
Leo Wood
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Easton Cruz
(((Projected)))
Zachary Smith
How can you be this retarded? Those are the USSRs numbers. The estimate by economists is way the fuck lower you commie piece of shit.
Brayden Jackson
>live in capitalist country >start business with a few friends >we own ze means of production comrade >we make lots of money and it's great
>live in communist country >violently seize ze means of production from ze evil bourgeoisie because they're evil and stole it from me in the first place >starve to death
fugg
Angel Torres
Hey that seems like a cool country to visit, let's go there! >oh wait, it's not a country anymore. Oh well.
Chase Lopez
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Adam Martinez
sure buddy. also I learn everything from USA by seeing Hollywood movies
Sebastian Flores
Lefty poll is invading
Fuck off
Bentley Young
>if it wasn't for the whole "the entire system failed" thing it would've been awesome
could've done without the 50 million deaths too but whatever lol
Aaron Martinez
you fuck off , this is not rightypol
Blake Thomas
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Levi Reyes
This image frightens the commie.
Charles Russell
communism is a dead meme for retarded children
Xavier Diaz
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Liam Cook
Careful friend, I hope you will get a quick death in America. Would not want you to in order to cure your cancer and sell meth to cover you treatment.
Brayden Gonzalez
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William King
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Jaxon Nelson
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Lincoln Edwards
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Wyatt King
How does this make you feel?
Logan Adams
>turning everything into government spending increases a stat includes government spending >the GDP of one country from a union that was several large blocs of countries >still lost to America by two folds at its peak Well shiver me timbers landy.
Thomas Ward
>mfw commies think USSR self reports are accurate
Parker Russell
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Connor Bell
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Jack Nguyen
(((Communism)))
Henry Ortiz
>literally no economist will believe you >no one will believe you >because they can look at the tattered infrastructure, lack of innovation, and willingness of the people to rebel against your shithole party that was holding them back
You're like flat earthers or something. Like that fucking guy off of ancient aliens. Look at those shithole commie block apartments and tell me that living there wasn't like prison for everyone
Parker Hill
Foul bourgeoisie lies serving the counter-revolutionary conspiracy.
Asher Evans
This.
Elijah Collins
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Jackson Ortiz
Can someone explain the second economy to me?
John Ross
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Brody Mitchell
You are worth what you are worth. What you are willing and able to produce. If you're worth more than that you can try and get someone else to pay for your welfare, but it wont be me you fucking commie nigger.
Jose Roberts
strange to see it made the headlines in Belgium
Luke Morales
>being this retarded
Cooper Morales
>it's another spainon thread Pathetic
Is that Finnish kid in here?
Jose Richardson
>Retreats from discussion and posts cat pictures and drawings of little girls that beg for sympathy
You disgust me, and I bet your father is ashamed of your inability to fend for yourself.
Evan Price
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Ayden Harris
Don't be salty, it is bad for your heart. Stay healthy burger!
Charles Sullivan
don't you think the reaction from the left was overblown?
Mason Gomez
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Parker Gonzalez
>Implying
Michael Phillips
Except that this doesn't happen anywhere, because starving, uneducated, unmotivated people make terrible soldiers, and even worse loyal citizens
>show me a communist leader that didn't have repeated assassination attempts made on them by their own people
Bentley Baker
Hey it seems you know a lot about communism. Can you answer my comment here?
Carter Lee
communism is capitalism but in capitalism they are just more greedy and with the amount of jews in both they might as well be judaism prove me wrong
Bentley Robinson
He's done, we fractured his dream world so now he is stuck in his autistic self soothing phase.
Jayden Lewis
To the oven
Xavier Martinez
>Confederate flag Fuck off traitor.
Kevin Cox
I noticed a lot of people here speak the tongue of spurdo spärde on their posts Ebin :-DD
Kevin Morgan
>tfw you don't even get to kill commies >they just realize they are retarded and leave
Brandon Diaz
The rise of automation will see a new era of socialism, discuss
Jeremiah Walker
1. I build 10 farmer robots to work a field and 10 death robots to keep commies off my lawn. 2. ??? 3. Commie somehow gets to live for free now.
Never going to happen.
Adrian Fisher
Daily reminder that there has never been a successful communist nation.
Josiah Johnson
The rise of automation will see a new era of fascism
Julian Williams
>communism
>state >nation
No. There will abolition of all oppressive hierarchies so that only the communes will survive. State apparatus will be withered away.
Owen Adams
>implying communist revolutions ever do anything other than get mocked as eventual failures or gain cult status among autistic edgy teens
Dylan Parker
damn gommies
Angel Jenkins
>will be withered away Yeah sure buddy. Keep growing the power of the state under socialism. Keep growing its power more and more and more until it magically 'withers away'. Makes perfect sense.
Communists actually believe that adding 1+1+1+1+1+1+1 to infinity will somehow give zero as a result.
Michael Phillips
There have existed communist states with no government
Cameron Ward
Thank you for not providing examples, genius.
Bentley Butler
Provide one successful example.
Aiden Adams
Revolutionary Catalonia
>If you didn't want to join the collective you were given some land but only as much as you could work yourself. You were not allowed to employ workers. Not only production was affected, distribution was on the basis of what people needed. In many areas money was abolished. People come to the collective store (often churches which had been turned into warehouses) and got what was available. If there were shortages rationing would be introduced to ensure that everyone got their fair share. But it was usually the case that increased production under the new system eliminated shortages.
Jacob Bell
Wow. Thats exactly like Hitlrts dream, the final final endgoal. Wow i'n a Nazu now.
Evan Cox
Lol wut? The USSR economy was fucked after the 1960s from what I've read about it.
Adam Collins
Never gets old
Alexander Jackson
>you were given land but only as much as determined by someone else >some entity enforcing the rule to not emply workers >entity dictating rationing and fair share >entity prohibiting the use of money Sounds like a state to me.
Easton Harris
WORKERS UNIONS ARENT STATES BECAUSE UH THEY JUST ARENT NEO BOURGEOIS ISN'T REAL BOURGEOIS!!!!!!
Chase Howard
I said no government
>There have existed communist states with no government
and no it wasn't really a state either, it was anarchist/socialist. Until the fascists ended it
Logan Jenkins
Duh, that's what is bound to happen when you can no longer rely on slave labor in gulags, mass killings, and other forms of brutality to keep the economy going.
Jose Wood
That's a fair point. If all work is automated, and nobody has a job, then how will the government justify wage disparity? However I doubt this will happen for a long time. Nonetheless, Karl Marx may be right, albeit by accident.
