"Sir Oswald, do you now, looking back with the hindsight and knowledge of history, blame the Jews or Hitler for the Second World War?"
"I blame BOTH: Hitler for driving east, before he had got a diplomatic arrangement with us; Jews, for gradually persuading us, or the British people or government, to do absurd things which were bound to result in war. I was against both mistakes."
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>Hitler
>One mad man leading the German people astray.
>The Jews
>Collectively blamed for the misdeeds of a few.
Why can't people learn the lessons of history?
I agree. BUF flag on Sup Forums when?
He's right. He's the greatest leader we never had.
He says a number of times in the video that not all Jews were responsible.
Faggot
"The Jews" is shorthand for "influential globetrotting Jews." (e.g. Sheldon Adelson, Lord Rothschild, etc.)
This should be readily apparent to anyone who has graduated middle school. See also
The Jews still are collectively exploiting everyone else societies!
Actually, I have. I'm a fucking fascist, mate.
Yis Plis! I would fly that flag with pride!
Welp, I respect Mosley more than Hitler now.
I feel kind of sorry for him. He was a good lad, he was more reasonable than both Hitler and Mussolini. One could say that he was " underrated "
And that fucking interviewer is an arsehole
>Muh jews
>But Mr. Mosley muh jews
>MR MOSLEY JEWS
>6 GORILION
Bloody cunt.
He was calm and collected in policy, yet passionate in speech. It's a shame we never got to see him come to power.
He's right. Hitler cucked the white race and fascism because he was a shit leader.
Fuck off. I can agree he made major mistakes but purging the Strasserists wasn't one of them.
>purging the actual national socialists was the right thing for a "national socialist" "leader" to do.
lol, get fucked famalam.
Your form of socialism has destroyed every nation it has come into contact with, and then when those nations fall apart they become the puppets and bitches of the capitalist nations, producing cheap goods at the expense of both societies.
>Mosley
Why does some autist keep spamming this faglord here?
>What is your opinion of these remarks, Sup Forums?
>your form of socialism
>heavily implying
>what is guild socialism with fascist characteristics
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Reminds me of Heideggar commenting on how Jews hate ethnic awareness because they want to have a monopoly on it.
Germany was in ruins before Hitler came along and fixed it.
>he was a shit leader
He was exactly the opposite.
>what is guild socialism with fascist characteristics
Something that has either never existed or failed every time its been tried.
He was good at fostering an economic boom. He was also a great orator and artist. Although that doesn't change the fact that his micromanagement of the war effort and drug use fucked white nationalism because it caused him to lose the war.
Something you don't know a lot about clearly m8. With that said, if it's never existed, how do you know it's a bad concept?
Martin Heidegger is probably one of the biggest brains of 20th century. Unfortunately, today he is not recognized as the great philosopher he was because his support to national socialism.
>before he had got a diplomatic arrangement with us
THE ENGLISH AND FRENCH GOVERNMENT LITERALLY PUSHED POLAND INTO ESCALATING TO WAR WITJ GERMANY.
Holy fuck I hate how ignorant Mosley was, but that's fucking fascists for you. Smart enough to know they're being fucked but always too stupid to know how to deal with it
Oswald Mosley was the one Brit of his time who had any damn sense. He was a truly great man and fuck I hate how he's memed on Sup Forums.
I don't
Fucking HITLER sat down with the guy and made friends, he was friends with his cabinet. Yet Mosley was still pants on head retarded about the entire conflict and acted as about as knowledgeable as every British journalist during the war which was to stay arrogant and ignorant to levels not seen since the Victorian era
If it's never existed then that means its too unnatural to exist. It's like those communists and anarchist who insist their system has never existed yet act surprised when every attempt goes sideways.
Because said faglord is British
And the Anglo is hardwired to try and spread his influence wherever he goes regardless of how cuckd or wrong he is.
The Aussies were the only one of his sons to ever replicate this power but unlike the Brits they decided to channel it into the creative past time of shitposting
You can't really take this as his honest opinion, he was trying to put the war behind him and push the Union Movement. He knew that there was no chance for fascism so he pivoted to protect European peoples as best he could
slave labour and ransacking was a temporary solution, German's were worse off after Hitler lost not only economically, but now burdening the guilt of the holocaust. Hitler was the worst thing that happened to the white race
Except that's bullshit, Fascism was what he was about to the core and he wasn't about to compromise that for some shitty pr stunt
Who cares though he was a complete idiot
Hitler never was a white nationalist, he was a German patriot and he did what he thought was best for his country. The war was inevitable, the United Kingdom was a decaying empire that saw Germany as a threat to its hegemony, nothing would have prevented them from starting a war against the Germans.
About the management of the war, Germany never has a chance, all the great powers converged against him. The Germans had neither the material nor the human resources to sustain a long war.
Same with Sartre and Mao.
Reminder that Britain started the war not Germany. Germany had a cassus belli for the invasion of Poland. Britain and France had no reason to enter the war but they did anyway.
Hitler begged for peace and a solution to the Danzig Corridor incident for 7 years straight until the invasion of Poland.
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Again, your only argument is the white race. Hitler never fought for the white race.
>The Holocaust
Please.
That's not a good argument. I could say that national socialism was too unnatural to continue existing because it only existed for a little over 10 years. I could also say that it's an inherently weak ideology because it got BTFO by communists and democrats. I wouldn't make those arguments though because they'd be strawmen. Same as the argument you're making.
>Hitler never was a white nationalist,
True, but his actions have still effected modern white nationalism in a negative way.
>he was a German patriot and he did what he thought was best for his country.
Doing what you "think" is best for your country isn't always the same as actually doing what's best for your country.
>The war was inevitable, the United Kingdom was a decaying empire that saw Germany as a threat to its hegemony, nothing would have prevented them from starting a war against the Germans.
Or, he could have just not invaded Poland and respected the Poles right to national sovereignty.
>About the management of the war, Germany never has a chance, all the great powers converged against him. The Germans had neither the material nor the human resources to sustain a long war.
The management of the war didn't help things. Of course the Japs didn't help either by getting the U.S. involved but that's another story. With that said, if he had maintained his non-aggression treaty with the Soviets there's a chance he could have bombed Britain into submission and gone after the U.S. next, or at least forced the U.S. into a peace treaty.
>shitty pr stunt
He was still trying to be a political force in Britain for decades after the war
>True, but his actions have still effected modern white nationalism in a negative way.
Only because people let it.
As a Jew I'm so happy you spend so much time hating the few of us, and you can't do a damn thing about us. It's the ultimate victory. Keep raging goyim.
shitler and his autistic lebemsraum killed europe
Exactly.
Moreover, if the British and French were so concerned about Poland, why did they not attack the Soviet Union, which also invaded it?
He wasn't wrong.
Depends on which (((people))) you're talking about.
>give me part of your territory
>okay I'm going to kill a few million of you and take it anyway because I have to get what I want
Hitler was a child. He was certainly autistic, and the most incompetent of German High Command. He fucked Europe's future, and moreover created virtually every European Communist crisis because of his little spergout.
>Or, he could have just not invaded Poland and respected the Poles right to national sovereignty.
Germans were systematically persecuted in Danzig and Bromberg, Hitler acted to save their people.
Hitler lost in USSR because he started to give orders èersonally, overruling his generals.
>A failed painter who believe he can successfully led an army
wew lads
Mosley's completely right. Hitler got too trigger happy too soon. He should've focused on building up the fascist movements across Europe for more support. At the same time it didn't really matter what Hitler did because the Jews were manipulating the British government. Mosley was a very level headed man and had more experience in politics than Hitler so he could think in the long term better.
It's unfortunate but the war caused far more German deaths than the Polish prosecution of Germans did. Sometimes the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
The anglo didn't know Churchill then.
>Hitler lost in USSR because he started to give orders èersonally, overruling his generals.
Hitler lost in the East because the American support of Stalin.
>He fucked Europe's future
Europe's future was ruined by the Allies after WW2. Churchill was more responsible for our current state than Hitler.
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>I could say that national socialism was too unnatural to continue existing because it only existed for a little over 10 years
Emphasis on it actually existing for 10 years. If you can't even get your system off the ground into the realm of material reality then it might not be possible.
>blaming Churchill
Nice fucking meme there kiddo. Hitler ravaged Europe both East and West, then expected peace? They bombed everyone, and expected to remain unharmed.
You don't just opt out of a decision like that. Hitler made his bed, and so he lay in it.
A true nationalist can't let his own people die. He was right on Poland.
Churchill declared the war on Germany, starting the WW2. And he did not do it for humanitarian reasons.
The first bombings against civilian populations were started by Churchill too.
what a hot boi
Danzig was rightful german clay.
>Brits and Frenchies totally sperging out
Russia conquers parts of Ukraine.
>Brits and Frenchies: It is righful russian clay. Let them have it.
Nope infact due to this Hitler attitude to exclude his generals from the line of command (at some point he also said something like "these generals should return in Germany leaving the army in my hands") there was an attempted (failed) coup d'etat in Germany in 1944.
You're deflecting. Hitler invaded sovereign nations with inferior technology killing millions in his wake.
Churchill was a better man than Hitler ever could've dreamed. I'm not suggesting he was perfect but Hitler was a fucking autist.
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so why dont you attack Russia now?
they are invading souvereign nations as well
british guarantee for Belarus, Baltics etc when?
Hitler lost because he wouldn't listen to his generals despite having some of the most intelligent, skilled warriors at his command because he thought he knew better. It's Hitler's dumbass decisions that cost him the war. If Hitler would've stuck to parades and speeches and let his generals run the war the world would be fascist today.
Not only Lenin invaded Ukraine.
Stalin invaded Poland, Finland and the Baltic Countries.
Where were the Allies?
Implying we have the power to do so anymore. Nukes make things slightly harder Hans, you should know considering your shitty country made a MAD conflict.
It's just because it was radically different than anything before it. The conditions didn't allow for it to happen because that portion of the party was killed off by Hitler despite the fact that Gregor talked Hitler out of suicide at one point and the Brownshirts are the ones that brought him to power. He betrayed the Strasserites, the Strasserites didn't betray him like a lot of Hitlerites like to claim.
What are you talking about? Hitler lost because his generals would not listen to him. The Battle of Moscow was a mistake.
you would have the power if you sided with us
also russia would be a mongoloid rumpstate
yea, I guess if the Soviets would have attacked Germany (in case Hitler didnt invade Poland) at some point, Brits and Frenchies would have sided with based Stalin
He's correct.
He's always been correct. He was incredibly wise and it is one of the country's greatest tragedies to have rejected him. It honestly saddens me to my core.
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You are invading us too, but you don't see Swiss people putting Germ heads on sticks - for now.
During WW2, Churchill invaded Middle Eastern regions like Palestine and Iraq, the vast majority of the problems we have now in these zones are a result of the British occupation. You can't give lessons about not invading countries or killing civilian populations.
And that's commonly referenced by amateur historians and the so called experts on TV. Let's dive in:
>Manstein in his book Lost Victories claims that Hitler would override his generals on operational planning.
>Which is confirmed by the books and accounts of others.
>Cue Hermann Hoth. In his book Panzer Operations he mentions that Hitler only corrected his generals when another general with positional authority made recommendations or when a general was acting out of line of the original agreed upon plan.
>What this really means is the generals like Manstein were bitching about having to follow their chain of command and not being giving the same latitude as they might have under the Weimar government, where they could do just about whatever the fuck they wanted with no consequence and less direction.
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In the above video, Hitler mentions that he always listens to his generals. It's basically true, aside from the autistic sperging of one gen. Manstein and his audience of fanatics who take him at face value. Because of his book Lost Victories, you can go to just about any forum of ww2 online today and find amateurs who pretend like he was God's gift to Germany, while pretending to have read his book or even understand the circumstances.
if UK had lost WWI , Mosley would have become leader of a fascist Britain
but under these circumstances he had no chance
shame, I think he could have been a great leader
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they were never going to win the war m8. the rest of the planet was too cucked. maybe if hitler never declared war on usa... but they would have found another way to go to war with germany anyway.
It's sad how the Soviet invasions of the Baltic countries and Poland aren't common knowledge but the German Poland invasion is. The argument that the allies went to war with Germany out of preserving other countries' independence falls apart when you actually look at what was going on.
Mosley met Hitler?
feel free to do so
its mainly the german upper class who emigrates to Switzerland because they are greedy cunts
they dont care about the well-being of a society as a whole, they only care about low taxes
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>Germans were systematically persecuted in Danzig and Bromberg, Hitler acted to save their people.
Maybe that was the justification but the invasion of Poland had nothing to do with that. It was just and good old fashioned territory war. The third reich had already before the war planned the joint invasion with the soviets and split the country.
>Japs didn't help either by getting the U.S. involved
Hmm.. I wonder why they hit the U.S. Surley the U.S. was innocent as the fresh fallen snow.
Hitler went to his wedding, he drew a lot more influence from Mussolini though
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Churchill was a Zionist and Britain started WW2. So it's foolish to assume there'd ever be an agreement between the two countries.
He married his second wife at Goebbels house, with Hitler attending.
If UK lost WW1 they would have won more than they could have possibly imagined. Ironic.
Even if they didn't it wouldn't have mattered since Britain and France officially declared war, thus starting the war.
It was planned in other words. The battle of battles. They let the nips blast Pearl Harbor so we would get thrown in to the war. Full speed
We'll kill you one day. Mark my words.
are there no photos of them together?
Was the wedding in the UK?
ok, thanks. Interesting stuff.
Would you believe there is zero info on mosley in American public education? Never heard of him til I came to Sup Forums
it was in Germany but it was kept in secret
I doubt you will see any photos
to be fair hitler needed poland to get to the soviets. theres no way poland would have made a deal to give germans free passage for its armies to fight russia.
What? No country can invade a nuclear armed state. No country would survive 5 nukes landing on their cities, let alone the thousands that would be raining from Moscow.
So why invade France and Czechia?