What happened to Yugoslavia?

What happened to Yugoslavia?
Why did it break up?
Can it come back and fight the rapefugee invasion?

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Bosniak mudslimes

>tito filled kosovo with albanians

>Can it come back and fight the rapefugee invasion?
no. see above

Austrians, Hungarians, Slovenes and Croats fight the muslim invasion most effectively.

Why does it resemble northern Mexico with a ballsack?

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kek mexican getting delirious in the arizona desert

1. it fell apart
2. fake socialism and neverending mental sickness
3. only by building walls around each country
4. go clean your room

Quick rundown?

Because it was shit
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nobody wants them, they should go to Turkey

Makes sense. Did they cause the problems in Yugoslavia though?

it shouldn't even been born in the first place.

nah, the Serbs did , so Slovenia and Croatia left and everyone else then following them

Because the kikes wanted that to happen.
If you are not too lazy to watch a 2h documentary on yugoslavia, there is one called weight of chains. Plenty of information within it.

It was communist shit country in which Serbia leached money off from Croatia and Slovenia. And now when there is no Yugoslavia in Serbia average salary is like 200E and IN Croatia and Slovenia its 1000 E

Be Serbia
>Invade Slovenia, fail
>Invade Croatia, fail
>Invade Bosnia, fail
>Kosovo war, fail

Pic related yugo architecture

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I watched this one and it appears Serbs were to blame

I was just about to post this. Soros funded the unrest, I believe you can find in Wikileaks some documents about it...

No.

>Its the muslims!!!
>Its the joos!!!

kys retard. anyone with a half brain knows that serbia caused the yugoslav civil war because they wanted to keep yugoslavia as bigger serbia and started chimping out when slovenia,croatia and bosnia wanted to leave

A 16 minute video compared to a 2:30:00 minute one, its not really comparable.
Video mentions economy and inflation, weight of chain explains everything behind it. Thats an example.
Its not as simple as it may seem. Its propaganda and foreign influence, as it is always the case. By foreign i do mean american, slightly german.

tito was pretty based and his market socialism performed well. Too bad about all the shitskins and serb subhuman though

Either way, whatever reason may be, we can disagree on those.
Every country is incredibly worse off than before, relatively.
Even if the split was peaceful and fully democratic it would be a display of democracy leading towards a bad direction, rather than a good one.

but serbia is a bomb torn shithole that cant recover from the war 25 years later due to all the corruption, while croatia and slovenia got them EU bonuses

Basicly this

Also. Serbians are half-Turk subhumans

turks are actually good in battle
serbs are shit though

muslims in Bosnia are from 500 years ago when turks were invading europe for few centuries

people in bosnia converted to islam, partly to protect themselves partly by being infiltrated with turks, but genetically i would say they dont look turkish

turks were raping whole balkan at that time

they are very moderate and peaceful actually, I dont remember single "terrorist" attack from Bosnian muslim

during balkan wars there were some reports of mujahedins helping bosnian army and now in this new ISIS era few bosnian muslims get indoctrinated and few iamams were accused of recrouting for ISIS, but in general if all mulims in europe would be like bosnians are then there would be no problems in paris london and sweden

Turks were always swarming, no wonder they won the Suleiman´s conquests, when they got an army thrice the size of the enemy

Another reason, why call them roaches

There are videos of bosniaks, serbs and muslims inside bosnia crying that theyre being split apart due to war and so on since they all lived inside some village.
They werent screaming "kill infidel"

It was more of a socialist county than communist county.

>Why did it break up?
It broke up because of ebil Serbs.

Can you tl;dr it?

>turks are actually good in battle
allmost their entire army was off Balkan ancestry and the biggest number off Balkan commenders were Serbian.

Serb allies, what to see in Belgrade? going there later this summer

The nightlife my dude

kill all mudslimes

Yeah it is the stereotypical american move. Introduce loans, force what was once state to be privatised, bring down the value of the state, making property cheaper, making it easier for others outside of the state to buy it, fund protests, spread propaganda, move in your business there and there you go. Happened in yugoslavia, happened in libya, happening everywhere in the middle east.

In this documentary you can find a news show, 1 broadcasted in croatia and one in serbia, 2 different speakers, speaking the exact same words spreading hate. I will paraphrase:
Croatia network : Serb is a savage he is killing your men, oppressing this doing that ...
Serbia network: Croat is a savage he is killing your men, oppressing this doing that.
And when i say "this" and "that" i do mean that whats "this" in croatia is "this" in serbia. I shit you not that the speech was 100% identical but the roles were reversed.

America was "helping" kosovo right? Then why did their air strikes hit more albanian vehicles than serbian ones. In reality they didnt care who they hit, just to bring on destruction.

>WE WUZ COMPETENT COMMANDERS AND SHIT
kek

>muh turkish rapes
>slovenian trying to delegitimize other Balkan Slavs
You wouldn't have a state if it wasn't for Serbia you German whore.

The Weight of Chains | Težina lanaca (2010) - YouTube
youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08

This video aint that bad.

But yeah west didnt want to have strong socialists country on balkan.
But inner tension in Yugoslavia was also very high since ww2, since communists revolution was never properly addressed, many of burned villages in 90s were burned because of things people did during or soon after ww2

en.rightpedia.info/w/Bleiburg_Massacres

oh it's you again , hi bro

hello m8

lol fuck off monkey

I dont know why, but people on the balkans really like to take their frustration because of the past on their own blood, even individually, when the incident is not related to them at all.

I dislike being called a slav nigger or balkan nigger, but even i have to admit that the biggest similarity between blacks and slavs is that slav is the slavs worst enemy, much like a black is blacks. We just do this on a country level as well as on a personal level, making it even more terrifying.

would you be willing to give up kosovo for prosperity?

>Belgrade
I would recomend you Novi Sad,but in Belgrade you can visit the Belgrade fortress which is free to enter and is open 24h,Serbian royal palace,Knez Mihajlova street and Republic square.There are also shoping malls you can visit like Usce and Delta.

I would be willing to give up my own left nut for prosperity, and if it is for someone i value id gladly give my life.
However i dont know how much giving up kosovo = prosperity.
Prosperity is not a one dimensional thing you see.

The only reason why Serbs wan't Kosovo back is because of the churches that are still there and those churches are tombs off our dead kings and other royalty so losing them would be a direct hit on the Serbian identety.

why so mad bro?

I wasnt trying to delegitimize anything, whole balkan was being raped by turks for 300+ years
Turks reached vienna and occupied whole hungary

Including slovenia, but since we are few hundred km to the north we werent occupied for as long as Serbia was.

>German whore
pic related
> Austrian conquest of Belgrade: 1717 by Eugene of Savoy, during the Austro-Turkish War of 1716-18

I kind of disagree with this. I think the problem is that the people supporting the defeated side were not punished enough like in western Europe. They were not made to be citizens of the 2nd order, shamed together with their children, or killed in high enough numbers. Instead, they were just introduced into the new order with all the tensions still there. The same is also true for all the Australian and Canadian diaspora who funded the nationalist Croatian parties. The allies just let them escape during/after WWII instead of deporting them to face punishment like the British did which led to Bleiburg.

No matter how much Serbs don't wan't to believe this but Serbs had it better under the Ottomans then the Serbs here where I live that were under the AH rulle.A Serb in the Ottoman Empire could off become a Grand Vizier whille a Serb in the AH coud just be a stable boi.

Milosevic wanted to treat Yugoslavia as Serbia. Bosnia, Croatia, and Slovenia were uninterested so they wanted to leave, prompting Milosevic to go to war against them. He also revoked Kosovo's autonomy, angering the Albanian population which again broke out into war. Long story short, Serbia chimped out. Islam had less to do with Yugoslavia's demise than most think.

>Croats
Disgusting

You probably will have to give it up to join the EU
So I guess you have to choose. Swallow your pride and let Kosovo go to get serious investments in your economy, or cling onto Kosovo forever
I guess you just have to start asking yourself when it stops being worth it. Look at the arab states, they have ruined themselves trying to get back Palestine

Unless the Islamic population of the Yugoslavic region is wiped out, they can never again have a true Titoist Yugoslavia

I feel like too great of a punishment could backfire. Germans were shamed for a decent amount of time, sure, but nationalism is on the rise in germany like never before.
Dealing with people is not that easy. Some will take the punishment and learn, some will take the punishment and rebel, some might rebel instantly, some might plot their rebellion but there isnt a pattern to it.

goodbye tito zagreb square

press y to pay respects

stfu you mongrel

>country that only existed because of a mistranslation of slavspeak by the league of nations
Imagine the next day after they find out they have to share a country now
>ohh noes Dmitrislav, where did our country go?

>than most think.
Literally nobody thinks that except retards visiting this board.
Also, it wasn't Milosevic's fault in the end. Yes, he was provocative, but in the end it's the Army who completely dropped the ball. The generals didn't want to act and start arresting people for endangering the Constitution because they had no political support since all the Communist Alliance leaders were shitting their pants because the nationalists were taking their authority.
Basically, there was no leadership and every function of power in the country was held by sheep.

S

press S to spit on titos grave

It's true, if Islam was to blame for Yugoslavia's demise it would have already fell during Tito's time. Milosevic's poor leadership was actually at fault, though.

>What happened to Yugoslavia?
Fell apart, obviously.
>Why did it break up?
Socialism collapsed and delegitimized communist ideology. One of the pillars of communist ideology in Yugoslavia was "brotherhood and unity". Delegitimized commies lost to nationalists in all republics because people were pissed off at commies and their mismanagement of the economy and all the oppression and what not.

Of course, the "ideal" borders of all the nationalists now in power overlapped with one another so war was inevitable.

EU even offered instant accession if Yugoslavia could stick together, no negotiations, you're in at once. But the balkanites hated each others SO much that even the promise of free EU monies wasn't enough to dissuade them from chimping out.

I dont know how much prosperity EU is going to bring, seeing as to what its doing now with immigration to most countries, giving deadlines and numbers on how many foreigners they have to accept, there are lines you dont cross for material prosperity. In this case because it ruins everything else.
I said id give my life but i will never force another to do the same. And i feel like EU does not hold that mentality.

In the end we would be fine prosperity wise if it wasnt for corruption of the politicians before, during and after the split of yugoslavia. Sittings of our Parliament, which is broadcasted on tv is a circus. Well, if only. Its more of a zoo that consists only of chimpanzees.

>Why did it break up?

Because it looks like a THICC Mexico with a scrotum on the bottom.

Lots of innocent families were killed. There were whole provinces that decided to side with germans. If you lived in that areas you were more or less destined to die after ww2.
People who lived in german occupied areas were forced to work with german authorities, if they didnt they were jailed or killed.

Some villages in not occupied areas were on communists side some were on anti communists side, and anti communists often sided with germans and italians. Things were very complicated.

Sad truth is that many war criminals escaped to Canada, US, AUS... while even more innocent people that stayed, were secretly killed in first moths after ww2.

Second problem was that Titos communists partisans killed also a lot of people who owned factories, land or buildings so they got property to start yugoslavia with. They killed everything that remained from middle ages aristocracy, nationalized all factories, stores and mansions.

My city has currently around 50 000 residents, yet there are 20 000 people in mass graves around the city killed in first two months after ww2.

no it was shit

It broke up because it was a communist Greater Serbia shithole run by incompetents.
You're an utter moron.

i am not talking about islam at all, that's the only thing you got right in your post, you fucking mongrel. the problem were (((croats))), everything else could've been worked out if there wasn't for retarded snowflakes.
this

are you the hue that used to post retarded anti-serb shit?

Slovenia was never under ottoman rule you retard

A JNA coup would be the literally worst possible solution to the Yugoslav crisis.

Only way Yugoslavia could have survived was if:
a) democratic elections were held for the Federal Assembly first, not the republic-level parliaments
b) the international community (most importantly the EU) took a much more active role in resolving the disputes than they did IRL
c) the academia were reigned in at least a little by politics (seriously, the 80s-90s academia in SFRY was literally batshit insane, as in Sup Forums tier arguments were the norm) and were stopped from peddling their ultranationalist shit to the retarded sheep-like masses

Does it even fucking matter if I am? I'm not, if it makes you feel better.

Look at your neighbors in the EU, their economies are booming
I am sorry my friend, but your country is in a position where you will have to sacrifice a lot to reach either of your goals

Their national debts are about 10 to 20 times higher than once they left the yugoslavia. Sure the pay is higher but their debt to % of gdp is much higher and the unemployment is almost the same all around.
If the money were to start raining from the sky above my country, the richest politicians would organise trucks to collect them, military to protect them and news to turn your eyes away from them.
Fixing this country goes deeper than giving it money.

kys, niggers

i am trying to get a count of diaspora croats that post anti-serb shit. you are pretty recognizable since they added these new flags.
solution number 1.
completely authonomus regions who can decide on everything besides independence-slovenia, croatia, dalmatia, slovenia, vojvodina, eastern serbia, western serbia, republika srpska, bosnia, herzeg-bosnia, montenegro, kosovo, fyro macedonia
solution number 2.
let slovenia and fyrom go, divide bosnia between muzzies serbs and croats. kosovo authonomous province of serbia, krajina authonomus province of croatia. croatia can separate, but only if they let krajina stay. everything else had to be war

And I'm saying that that's nothing compared to what the French or the Russians did. It's not about innocence, it's about restoring order. You can't have anti-national elements during the Cold War or you end up like Korea or Afghanistan, or Yugoslavia a bit later.

I'm not saying coup, I'm saying order leading to your point a.
Getting the international community was tried and led to nothing because all the people in power were shitting their pants and thought they would get dismembered the next day.
The academia is literally the same today in Croatia, just look at the Croatian Academy of Science and Art. Half of the people in it could be Sup Forums shitposters.

Giving up Kosovo is against the constitution.
>Look at your neighbors they are blooming
This is a joke yes?

*slavonia and forgot to add krajina under the first solution

the Serbs were offered to be a autonomous of Croatia, they didn't want to because they are wanted greater serbia

Fuck off pseudo czech vermin.

That's me, faggot. I don't use meme flags.

>retarded anti-serb shit
Is this your name for "facts"?

You have no idea what's happening. In 10 years, Serbia will still exist, unlike the other states which might exist for the sole purpose of supporting army camps.

>anti-serb shit
And I'm the diaspora? I'm simply stating the fact; your precious failed union collapsed because its leaders were incompetent communists who curbed croatian, slovenian and bosnian nationalism and sovereignty in favor of their blatant version of Greater Serbia. It was doomed to fail from the start. I have nothing against serbs as a people; Yugoslavia however was a complete abomination and I'm glad its gone. May it never return.

The great (((uniter))) died... Perceived inequalities during his regime sparked conflicts, mistrust and hatred. The Soviet union wasn't there either...

It was simply a time to dismantle the communism in Europe, foreign influences did that.

It would be so different if the commies didn't sway so much influence and Kingdom Yugoslavia simply accepted the alliance with 3rd Reich.

a hero we need but don't deserve

What are you babbling about you moron?

fuck you

I do not agree with titos commy views, but at least he holded the country together. europeans should be united together exept sweden and germany

Good solutions or not, people would never agree on them.
Serbs started militarising because of news of their own being killed by croats.

You're a backstabbing German whore, that's all. Liberating you from Austria was our greatest mistake.

malagurski is a biased cunt

nope

>Our
>Cucktholic flag
Self-terminate you fucking moron.

>held country together
at a gunpoint... any forced existence is met with resistance really...

>europeans should be united together
No, they shouldn't. Fuck off.

imagine if the USA had been invaded and conquered by the soviets.

now imagine the soviets redefined our borders so that all of north america was one 'country'.

now imagine the USSR collapsed in the same fashion that it did in reality.

how would Amerexicanada fair?

>I'm not saying coup
The Army arresting politicians who "go against the Constitution" (without court verification) and "restoring order" is the textbook definition of a military coup.
>Getting the international community was tried and led to nothing because all the people in power were shitting their pants and thought they would get dismembered the next day.
Agreed. Ironically enough, the complete failure of EU diplomacy to accomplish anything lead to a reform of the EU itself (Maastricht)
>The academia is literally the same today in Croatia, just look at the Croatian Academy of Science and Art. Half of the people in it could be Sup Forums shitposters.
This I agree with 100% and the same holds true for both Serbia and Bosnia. Academia in these parts is a literal joke because anyone worth shit already left for greener pastures, only living memes and various other """"""academics"""""" remain (of course not all, but enough to rustle my jimmies)

you are retarded, bosniak muslims were and are still the biggest supporters of tito and the biggest yugonostalgicari.