OUR OPTIONS >Turn Upstate New York into an autonomous region apart from downstate but still within New York State >Partition New York into two new states, New Amsterdam (Upstate) and New York (Downstate) >Have Upstate New York join Pennsylvania
SIDEQUESTS Long Island Three Regions Plan/Peconic County Staten Island Independence
Having lived in the south and the north, it's funny how must people don't realize that the majority of New York is more country than the south. Way more beautiful too.
Gabriel White
Upstate NY is depressing frozen shithole
without city, it gonna turn to Mississippi number 2
Benjamin Harris
Rochester here. Like it or not, taxes from NYC tend to flow up to us. Cutting off NYC would be analogous to cutting off our foreskins.
Easton Reed
Do it, faggots.
Benjamin Jackson
worst borders ever
Jaxson Ramirez
>OUR OPTIONS >>Turn Upstate New York into an autonomous region apart from downstate but still within New York State this is the only option.
^this. as much as I hate to admit it, this is largely true.
James Thomas
Everyone take my word for it upstate rules
Juan Jones
In what way? Is it the high taxes, the shitty weather, or the depressed economy?
Josiah Foster
I'd like to see those numbers, because if it's funding faggots and niggers, and the goddamn state police, we can leave that money on the table. Sheriffs and town police are enough
Bentley Edwards
Also it's not worth because upstate has no voting power
Aaron Phillips
Nah, man, NYC is the home of a ton of fortune 500 companies and they generate a ton of revenue:
Right because the city is tropical also wow thanks for making the point that the taxes don't help our roads. You're probably one of us so have you been to lake George?
Justin Anderson
the fact that upstate methheads vote for Republicans doesn't make them less worthless
Austin Nguyen
No, missing my point. If the tax dollars fund garbage here upstate, they can keep it in the city. ah so you agree the state should split
Christian Barnes
Nothing wrong with New York. > Midtown and Lower Manhattan are largely white > South Brooklyn is white and Asian with blacks concentrated into northern hoods > Bronx is a PR shithole but better than it was in the 70s and 80s > Harlem is not as black as it used to be which is the subject of much whine > Staten Island is white > Long Island is mostly white besides a few Hispanic towns > NJ is white and Asian past the Meadowlands and Newark
I wouldn't mind living in greater NYC if not for the prices. I hear the suburbs are cheaper though and they have good trains.
Jose King
Are long island fags aloud here? Many of us hate NYC
James Moore
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Lucas Martinez
>have you been to lake George?
Sure, I had an aunt that lived up that way. Beautiful area. Western NY has has some incredible scenery (pic related is Ithaca). I don't mean to trash upstate (Rochester here), but I've slowly watched my region go to shit over the past 30 years with the loss of Kodak, AC Delco (Rochester Products), and the decline of both Xerox and Baush & Lomb. It's frustrating because this was once a really great place to live.
Nicholas Wood
Staten island fag just got out of the DMV, fucking sucks. Also, we vote republican every year and yes there are an abundance of stupid niggers and spics but you cant get away from it
Luke Hernandez
>why do niggers move upstate >because they heard there was no work
Lincoln Hughes
kek, I'm using that
Luke Young
> he doesnt live on the hudson river
Grayson Hall
Really activates the almonds.
James Gonzalez
Didn't chobani leave too? Not a friendly state for business but the area around me (Clifton park) is doing well
Ryder Cooper
Used to go up there when i was young, gorgeous place. Havent been in about 15 years though
Ian Gonzalez
631 fag here living abroad. We did our part trying to make NY red this election. Can't say the same for Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, and Albany, all located in that blue there
Grayson Sullivan
Give NYC to NJ, problem solved
Luis Jones
Hmm, I think Chobani's plant is still in operations, but they moved the corporate hq's to Delaware for tax purposes.
Yeah, it's an amazing place. I try to take a weekend camping trip out there at least once a summer.
James Perez
Are these maps of nigger density?
Matthew Walker
Does the Empire Center support New Amsterdam? Might add them to the next general when this one dies.
Zachary Powell
That's one way of putting it, yeah.
Blake Wood
Hey /nag/, former resident of Otsego County here, from a little town called Roseboom (pic related, it's our only country store, post office, and sandwich shop). Because of the idyllic childhood I had wandering the Catskill woods, picking berries, and going on hikes with my dad to the maple syrup factory up the road, this region is permanently affixed to my psyche; it prevents me from becoming a complete city kid (I live in a large city now). We lived in a farmhouse built in the 1790s and learned about the Iroquois tribes and the Cherry Valley massacre in our schools. This is the land of Rip Van Winkle. My land was the muse of the Hudson River School where Thomas Cole and others mastered the art of American landscape painting long before Yosemite was even discovered; its vast scale and large, graceful trees put the European groves to shame and were more intimate than any Chinese garden. This is the land of once great hotels and vacation homes. This land harbors miles-long sledding roads before the plows come for the winter. This land harbors ancient Indian burial grounds and outlaw bikers. All in all, New Amsterdam is unironically my homeland, and my heart gets warmer as I navigate the centures-old roads and the stone fences. I yearn for the time when I can end my fitful exile and return here to buy my paradise back (under presumably lower property tax).
>tl;dr: NEW AMSTERDAM WHEN?!
Wyatt Adams
cool little town. I think I drove through it when I went to Cooperstown for the Baseball Hall of Fame years ago.
Tyler Phillips
It really is. Cherry Valley is the bigger town with all the amenities (no fast food though, you have to go all the way to Oneonta to get any of that), but Roseboom is near all the state forests. The whole county has a lot to offer though, especially around Margaretville. I highly suggest you go back and look at the little stuff, it's amazing how old everything is. I return when I can.
Angel Garcia
another burden of NYC taxpayers filled with junkies.
Julian Russell
Guys how can we capitalize on the feud between DeBlasio and Cuomo? I hate both of them. DeBlasio for his nonstop sjw faggotry. Cuomo for the archetypical political sliminess and definitely corrupt connections. This is an excellent opportunity to shake these bastards down. DeBlasio will do anything to get reelected later this year, and Cuomo is pissed for getting the bad press about the MTA on his "pristine" career
Levi Garcia
Sorry, I misread and made a huge error. Please disregard my deleted post.
Benjamin Wright
Suffolk County, Staten Island, and South Eastern Queens can we get into New Amsterdam too?
We aren't like the Medigans in Manhattan and Westchester.
Ian Watson
It's all good, bro. Believe me, where I lived was certainly upstate, and I highly suggest a visit for anyone who has the time and funds.
I know this might be a bit too hippie for Sup Forums, but this video is honestly the best way I can explain upstate NY to you as I saw it as a kid. This reminds me of when I hiked on the high roads of my county, and I could see all the farms below and everything was quiet. There are a lot of refugees of the flower children up here too who tried to practice what they preached (many vote red now) and most people here are quite individualist. I just wish there was a better scan of this scene on YT.
Noah Lewis
Westsylvania masterrace
Jeremiah Brown
had a similar childhood in western monroe county. I think your region's prettier, but I still love rural surroundings. You really can't beat it.
Jack Barnes
>video That sense of community is gone and we desperately need to get it back. It starts locally, we need to rebuild the world we want from the ground up. If we really want our vision to materialize we have to have a serious community. Not let it be snatched up by the first Spencer to come around because we have no Real face.
We need one!
Dylan Smith
Agreed. I live in Dixie now, and even though there are certainly nice parts of the area that strike my fancy, the history, architecture, and folklore can't compete with upstate NY. If you've never visited Phoenicia before (pic related), I highly suggest you do.
Damn straight, we have town halls and everything. Everyone knows the volunteer firefighters and snowplow guys up there, and many multinational chains don't bother putting stores there either. When I was there, 4-H was a strong bond for many kids, and the fair was actually a fair, not just rides. For Rip Van Winkle and the Headless Horseman
Henry Thomas
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Jason Flores
I lobe upstate NY. Nice rolling countryside, small town to take little vacations in. Great camping hiking, river rafting, small bars and pubs.
Fuck NYC that roiling cesspool of Jewery. Neutron Bombs when?
Ian Rivera
So many memes in one image >Dade County Georgia is independent because for a while you couldn't go by road to the rest of georgia
>Winston County AL as independent referencing its lack of loyalty to the confederate government.
>State of Franklin which could have actually happened
>correctly identifying and splitting georgia into its real parts
>north Massachusetts my fucking sides
holy fuck the memes
Luis Adams
DO IT DO IT DO IT
Port cities are the most degenerate multi-cultural dens of filth. They love getting pozzed and they import all the pozz from the world they can get. It's literally their economic basis and cultural identity.
Example: What's the first word association with Amsterdam? Prostitutes. Exactly.
Colton Richardson
FUCK NO -- think of your NYC bros who already trapped in this fucking hellhole of kikery. For us, Albany actually represents the last tenuous thread of sanity holding out against the darkness!
Justin Carter
Reminder his will never happen because laws have to be ratified at the state and federal level. Keep dreaming Jew york
