CIA-Silsby-Alefantis Connection

youtube.com/watch?v=pmd2Eey6CcE
around 5:50 Nora Maccoby talks about her growing up in an almost all CIA neighborhood making it very likely her family is involved in that as well.

Izette Folger is the Sister of Max and Nora Maccobie
archive.is/e03eX
> children: Anne Maccoby Berglof, Izette Folger, Nora Maccoby Hathaway, Max Maccoby.

She is also at on the Advisory board of Innocent at Risk which is an organisation to "fight" child eploitation and human trafficing
archive.is/JLGWy
Max Maccoby brother of Nora Maccoby and Izette Folger, defended in Alefantis and Brock in court
docdroid.net/lIpLMAN/brock-court-documents-.pdf.html#page=14
and is on the board of directors of "Friends of the Orphans"
archive.fo/pJEJh#selection-1129.29-1129.30

Furthermore the "Friends of the Orphans" orphanage is the very same orphanage Laura Silsby took the children from when she was caught with 33 of them
archive.fo/ox7Fa
>PUELLO: There was an orphanage that collapsed in Haiti. It was called friends of the orphans of Haiti. And there was somebody over there that told them that the orphans had no place, no room to place them.

tl;dr: this family with CIA background and connection to Alefantis have an awfull lot of connections to Childprotectionservices of which is the exact one Laura Silsby stole "abducted" (bought?) the kids from when she was caught. really makes you think

Other urls found in this thread:

archive.is/IF1AD
archive.is/ruJ4Z
twitter.com/SteveScalise/status/867843578265051136
twitter.com/SteveScalise/status/835199895413882886
archive.is/uGr8i
archive.is/KRPj5
archive.is/jNirB
archive.is/SRQy0
archive.is/nN6e9
archive.is/nKkIo
archive.is/06vxu
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/14833#searchresult
nbcnews.com/video/watch-exclusive-interview-with-scalise-doctor-jack-sava-969452099827
archive.is/WxohD
archive.is/u7fYMhere
youtube.com/watch?v=rkLD5ul_M_Y
archive.is/tO0Sg
archive.is/prbwH
archive.is/hlRuD
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/27143
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_&_Company
atlanticcouncil.org/about/international-advisory-board
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitri_Alperovitch
zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-24/what-crowdstrike-firm-hired-dnc-has-ties-hillary-clinton-ukrainian-billionaire-and-g
sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Man-Faces-Child-Pornography-Charges-Russians-2965729.php
archive.is/R685c
archive.is/ERD02
m.topman.com/en/tmuk/product/mint-pizza-and-pop-socks-4161305
archive.is/MbI18
archive.is/7lGkm
archive.is/gYkVW
archive.is/NPDjP
m.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/
pizzagate.wiki/DynCorp
youtube.com/watch?v=x2MA5Ha9XmE
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Elliott_Trudeau_Foundation
news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/federal-government-spent-6-million-upgrading-military-bases-for-syrian-refugees-who-didnt-stay-there
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montréal–Pierre_Elliott_Trudeau_International_Airport
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Owen
globalstrategylab.org
globalstrategylab.org/news/canadian-art-features-immune-nations-art-exhibition-article
globalstrategylab.org/people/steven-hoffman
ivantic.info/Dejvid Ajk i zavere/Fritz Springmeier i Cisco Wheeler/Total Mind Control Slave.pdf
atlantadailyworld.com/2017/06/26/human-trafficking-survivor-exhibit-to-raise-awareness-at-atlanta-airport/
washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2016/09/14/ex-mayor-charged-in-4-year-olds-rape-said-the-girl-was-a-willing-participant-records-say/?utm_term=.6eba4bc1a2ea
archive.is/mrNfx
translate.twitter.com/
youtube.com/watch?v=KCA3Q0PjfUA
knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/twittergate
archive.is/uX6rp
washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/10/seattle-mayor-ed-murray-accused-of-paying-teen-boys-for-sex-will-not-seek-reelection/?utm_term=.bfe358199eb3
flickr.com/people/29031240@N07/
flickr.com/photos/97431127@N00/9841551026/
helphopelive.org/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_X
nytimes.com/1992/11/19/world/canada-will-pay-50-s-test-victims.html
conspiracy.wikia.com/wiki/Monarch_Project
outpost-of-freedom.com/operatio.htm
vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/origins-and-techniques-of-monarch-mind-control/
bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon02.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repressed_memory
webmd.com/mental-health/dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder#4-9
learnmem.cshlp.org/content/11/5/501.full
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

There is also this connection between alefantis and the DC Police chief
note how the guy says all those missing kids left voluntarily? how does he know if they are missing? did he find them, ask and then released them again? or just a "nothing to wory goy" speech?
another possibillity that those kids were put into places of people who do some dirty work for the government as for example hodkinson, the baseball shooter who abused his foster kids and drove one into suicide by burning herself and hitting the friend of one of the foster childs and shot around with his rifle and was still allowed to have (foster) kids and guns afterwards apparently.
or the CPP falseflagger.
they gave these kids to such people, knew they were suffering and because of this know they left voluntarily because they didnt want to be abused by those people they were given to on purpose

archive.is/IF1AD
archive.is/ruJ4Z
(this article is weird as it is literally just a headline and one line essentially saying the same)

bump

Now lets look into the scalise shooting

Scalise was strongly against humantrafficing and childdiddling
twitter.com/SteveScalise/status/867843578265051136
twitter.com/SteveScalise/status/835199895413882886

Scalise gets shot, and Pizza gets send to his office
archive.is/uGr8i

He was then brought into the same Hospital as Seth Rich, the MedStar Washington Hospital Center
archive.is/KRPj5
The shooter is also known for abusing his fosterchilds
archive.is/jNirB
>In April 2006, Hodgkinson was arrested for battery, domestic battery and discharging a firearm, after he allegedly physically assaulted his foster daughter and two of her friends.
>A St Clair County sheriff’s department incident report said Hodgkinson threw his daughter around a room, pulled her hair and hit her. He then punched a female friend of his daughter in the face “with a closed fist” and struck the woman’s boyfriend in the head with the stock of his shotgun, before firing a round as the man ran away.
>Almost a decade earlier, another foster daughter living with Hodgkinson and his wife, Suzanne, had killed herself at the age of 17, according to the Belleville News-Democrat. The daughter, Wanda Ashley Stock, doused herself with gasoline and set herself on fire inside a car.
what the fuck? who burns himself as suicide? why not taking a hose and just redirected the exhaust fumes into the car or let it run in a garage or something? use the shotgun of the guy to make it quick. but fucking burning yourself? Maybe murder instead?

Also Trump brought his personal Physician to scalise
archive.is/SRQy0
Furthermore weirdly congresscandidate Lindy Li seems to have a connection to the shooter.
archive.is/nN6e9

Brad Wenstrup helped treating the wounds of scalise directly after the shooting until the ambulance arrived and probably kept him alive
archive.is/nKkIo
He was also quoted for saying "It’s just as easy as ordering a pizza, to order a person.”
archive.is/06vxu
the choice of words is no coincidence. possibly /ourguy/

the same doctor who was responsible for seth rich, jack sava, also is in charge of scalise.
sava also appears to be on the guestlist together with the podestas
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/14833#searchresult

nbcnews.com/video/watch-exclusive-interview-with-scalise-doctor-jack-sava-969452099827
he talks about in the beginning how it is normal to get shot and be relatively fine and later get into shock and collapse explaining the critical condition.
archive.is/WxohD
this article talks about why a gunshot to scalises hip, not just any hip, but scalises can be deadly
however
archive.is/u7fYMhere it says he was in good spirits, and even called his wife and talked to her. scalise was on the verge of collapsing but instead of insteantly operating on him and stabalizing him they let him talk in piece all chilled out with no worries?
they already set the narrative up to make it seem like its normal if he dies
youtube.com/watch?v=rkLD5ul_M_Y
this bitch even already talks like he dead

archive.is/tO0Sg
hodkinson, the baseball shooter had a list of targets but didnt shoot anyone on the list?
is he miserable at aiming? is the list fake news? or is that a list with targets he isnt supposed to shoot because those are (((theirguys)))? a threat like "you are next"? or the FBI giving an unofficial warning like "we heard there something, be carefull goys"?

furthermore hodkinson seems to have dissappeared months before the shooting
archive.is/prbwH
where did he go? certainly not targetpractive. was he maybe snatched up and MKUltrad in that time?

archive.is/hlRuD
>Prior to the mass shooting, Hodgkinson visited the senate office of democrat Bernie Sanders, whose failed presidential campaign the gunman had volunteered for. The FBI also said the shooter had been in contact with the offices of democratic senators Dick Durbin and Tammy Duckworth.
>"I have just been informed that the alleged shooter at the Republican baseball practice is someone who apparently volunteered on my presidential campaign," Sanders said in the statement. "I am sickened by this despicable act. Let me be as clear as I can be. Violence of any kind is unacceptable in our society and I condemn this action in the strongest possible terms.
but happens to not mention the visit. hmmmmm

also
>The FBI released new information Wednesday on the lone gunman
>According to the bureau, 66-year old James Hodgkinson acted alone in the mass assassination attempt, in what the FBI is describing as a “spontaneous” incident.
>lone gunman
just like with abe lincoln and JFK i suppose.and so spontenious he dissappeared months prior to the attack and had a list with him.
is anyone else thinking now?

Mitt Romney has connections to the brother of a Childporndistributor

Josh Bekenstein, Sponsor of the New York Dinner of the Clinton Foundation
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/27143

He works for a company founded (among others) by Mitt Romney
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_&_Company
>Bain Capital was founded in 1984 by several former Bain & Co. partners that included Mitt Romney (later to become the 70th Governor of Massachusetts and candidate for President of the United States), T. Coleman Andrews III, and Eric Kriss.[4] On account of these shared roots, Bain & Co. still maintains a strong institutional relationship with Bain Capital. Many current Bain Capital managing directors and professional staffers began their business careers at Bain & Co.[11]

Bain & Co, even though allegedly a seperate group still has the same origin as Bain Capital and I would be suprised if they really severed all ties. Bain & Co has ties to Atlantic Council
atlanticcouncil.org/about/international-advisory-board
Which in turn has ties through Dmitri Alperovitch to Crowdstrike
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitri_Alperovitch

Crowdstrike is one of the companies which fueled the rumors of russian hacking and has ties to the DNC
zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-24/what-crowdstrike-firm-hired-dnc-has-ties-hillary-clinton-ukrainian-billionaire-and-g

So Bekenstein has ties to the DNC, donated to the Clintonfoundation, and has connections to a group fueling the russian hacker narrative. However there is Seth Bekenstein, his brother, who was found guilty of Childpornography
sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Man-Faces-Child-Pornography-Charges-Russians-2965729.php
So a Bekenstein, with ties to the DNC and donated for a CF dinner working for a company founded by Mitt Romney has a brother that distributed Childporn

sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Man-Faces-Child-Pornography-Charges-Russians-2965729.php
>Bekenstein was convicted in 1987 in New York on charges of sexual abuse and placed on three years' probation, records show.

>Bekenstein was charged in a criminal complaint with receiving child pornography that was mailed or shipped in foreign commerce. He is scheduled to appear before U.S. Magistrate Wayne Brazil at a detention hearing today. (January 12, 2001 )

archive.is/R685c
>The sender, later identified as Seth Bekenstein, emailed hundreds of child-porn images, including photos taken by McVicker, to the agent. Bekenstein, a U.S. citizen living in Mexico, was then arrested when he visited Portland in February 2011.

he was found guilty for sexual abuse and only got 3 years on probation, was then caught again in 2001, and then was arrested in 2011?!

also in
sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Man-Faces-Child-Pornography-Charges-Russians-2965729.php
>One pornographic video, ostensibly titled as being a National Geographic documentary about pandas, opened with an image of a panda before leading to a depiction of "three underage boys engaged in sexually explicit activities," Kawabata said.

ever notices how many of the kids in the instagram pics look really tired? so tired they have rings around their eyes? rings like pandas have them? i believe the kids are the #cumpandas

So scalise was shot for being child trafficking rings run by democrats

he was most probably (as i see it) shot for being against the childtrafficing and trying to do something against it.
also there is no ring run by the democrats and one by the republican. both parties are equally involved, and who runs the ring i cant tell. CIA maybe, mossad, some joint cooperation of multiple organisations, the deepstate, shadowgovernment, illuminati, masons, the jews. thats what we are trying to find out. but it all seems to be one ring supplying politicians on all sides with children which in turn then can be blackmailed and controlled. an user put it nicely some time ago
>one ring to rule them all

Multiple senators wore the socks in pick related
archive.is/ERD02

These socks seem to be exclusively available on this website
m.topman.com/en/tmuk/product/mint-pizza-and-pop-socks-4161305

Chairman of this onlineshop is Sir Phillip Green
archive.is/MbI18
This friendly guy also lend his private jet to the McCanns to tour around
archive.is/7lGkm
And he seems to also get along really well with Bill "I put my dick everywhere I shouldnt" Clinton
archive.is/gYkVW
furthermore "Sir" seems to be a honourary badge for pedos, like:
Sir Jimmy Savile
Sir Phillip Green
Sir Clement Freud

Trudeau next to a guy at a gay pride parade around a week before getting arrested for pedostuff

a logo used by the trudeau fondation

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little girls are sexy as fuck. cmon man.

also, another washington police officer involved in sexual abuse and production of child pornography

saved. saw it in an earlier thread, but thread was (((deleted))) so i forgot to save it.

Reminder the CPP shooter was a false flag

/www.wbtv.com/story/33467722/13-year-old-struck-by-vehicle-in-salisbury-airlifted-to-hospital
he ran over a kid before and was left of without any charges. he had a debt to pay and the false flag was the payment.
also his father is an actor
archive.is/NPDjP
as well as he himself seems to be too, or at least in the movie business
m.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/

this all hints towards the connections to the higher ups. they didnt just choose some random guy

also the trafficcam shows there was prior knowledge to this incident and they made sure no footage will be found

He also shot a bullet straight through the hard drive of the computer.

also another user posted this
interesting, the logo is the same as the "child lover" pedo symbol, and also is about child trafficking in... haiti

true. saw some pic of it. he allegedly shot open the lock of the door and hit the computer through it. now on the pic the door was already replaced (was really shortly after the "shooting", and assuming the lock was on the same position on the previous door there is no chance he made that shot. the lock was around the height of a persons shoulder and the computer was below that meaning in order to make the downward shot from that height he had to either climb on a table or chair first, or put the stock of the rifle on top of his shoulder instead of leaning into it. noone would casually shoot a door open like that

would make sense why she shilled so hard against trump

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+the shooter actually lived in haiti and speak haitian

Don't forget CIA black budget company Dyncorp. Many connections.

pizzagate.wiki/DynCorp

wow

and outside of the restaurant, pizza references, wtf

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dyncorp was that company that let some underage boy strip on some of their events right?

You are the autistic hero that we need.

youtube.com/watch?v=x2MA5Ha9XmE

thanks, but i think none of this is from my research. i just condensed the infos other anons dug up into easily digestable posts with sources.
the real heroes are the ones that found these things

I'm not seeing anything solid here. You must make hard connections to wake up normies. I know these people are sick fucks, but this doesn't make any sort of argument that indicates it.

In fact a lot of this stuff is absurd.

This is a pretty strong case. Where is the Podesta amd Alefantis connection in it, though?

Eh looks like some BS gay bullshit.

Dirty cop. Doesn't show a clear connection to anything.

This is something.

This is highly suspicious.

I hate the cunt but what does this show that connects?

What is this supposed to be?

Extemely circumstantial at best.

What is this suppsed to be showing?

(Since someone brought this connection up, I figure I might as well repost these here)

I think that there might be a serious connection between the Trudeau Foundation and human trafficking. Aside from just the symbol, you have the fact that many human trafficking routes lead to Canada. The Trudeau Foundation is essentially an open society-esque foundation that reeks of Liberalism, and we know Liberals are allied with pedo' s and Islam.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Elliott_Trudeau_Foundation

news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/federal-government-spent-6-million-upgrading-military-bases-for-syrian-refugees-who-didnt-stay-there

The info in the second link I found to be quite interesting and shows signs of something sketchy going on. Are these renovated military bases possible ISIS cells now? Also, someone posted how a lot of the child rape actually occurs at military bases, and ISIS does love it's child sex slaves. Combine this with the new bill that allows the Canadian government to seize children from families who don't accept their children's made up gender identity. Who really is going to be able to keep track of where all of those children will be going? There is a lot of potential for trafficking there.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montréal–Pierre_Elliott_Trudeau_International_Airport

Finally, you have this interesting tidbit. Human trafficking is known to take place through airline flights and Trudeau just happens to have a major airport in his family's name. The airport is one of two of the only airports in Canada that offers direct flights to five continents or more. They also offer services for private planes and also have helicopter passenger service from Mirabel to destinations in Canada and America. There's potentially more connections in the links provided, as I haven't read through all of them fully. Just food for thought.

In relation to the talk of art pograms and the transfer of fine art, a former member of the Trudeau Foundation, Philip Walter Owen, was the director of the Vancouver art gallery and many other local organizations. He started a textile company in his 20's that later expanded to both Toronto and New York (New York is an important location for many different things, like human trafficking). He was also involved in politics as the mayor of Vancouver and was notable for pushing for drug reform policies.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Owen

A big connection the Trudeau Foundation has with another notable group is that of Trudeau Foundation's current President, Morris Rosenberg, whom also serves on the advisory board of Global Strategy Lab. The Global Strategy Lab is the clean-cut definition of a globalist group with focuses on "Addressing transnational health threats and social inequalities". While it may or may not relate to human trafficking, it's a big connection nonetheless.

globalstrategylab.org

so what if trudeau, for the jews, sets up a muslim rebellion under the lead of isis paying for it in childsexslaves to get rid of the christians?
only question would be how the jews expect to controll isis afterwards since they widely outnumber them.

Global Strategy Lab also seems to have connections to art exhibitions and the like.

globalstrategylab.org/news/canadian-art-features-immune-nations-art-exhibition-article

The article shows the kind of agendas that Global Strategy Lab seems interested in pushing. Steven J. Hoffman, one of the names you'll see there in the article, has some interesting connections which include being the Fellow in the Executive Office of United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon in New York City, where he offered strategic and technical input on a range of global health issues.

globalstrategylab.org/people/steven-hoffman

More like why is he doing it for the Chinese.

"Religious ministers are often set up with Betas (a sexual model of slave) who then blackmails them. The ministers do not want to lose their status and profession via scandals, so they agree to turn their children over when young to the CIA to work with. The Illuminati like to blackmail these ministers when they are finished with their Seminary schooling and committed to the ministry at about 33 years of age. The idea of having
nothing to fall back on after they have committed their entire life to one profession is too much for these weak-willed men, and they buckle under the threats. If they don’t buckle under, the resulting
consequences will remove them from ministry. The type of father who is most preferred by the
Programmers to offer up their children for programming is the pedophile. If a father will abuse his own little baby girl, then the Programmers know that the man has no conscience.
ivantic.info/Dejvid Ajk i zavere/Fritz Springmeier i Cisco Wheeler/Total Mind Control Slave.pdf

Also possible, bur seein how clinton seems to be a puppet of both, the chinese and the jews i would say its kinda the same thing.
Maybe the jews controll the chinese through finances to outnumber the muslims after getting rid of christians and whites to then gain the controll back from the muslim

The same kind of art like abramovic

For those looking for a Clinton/Trudeau/Podesta connection, take a glance at this image.

Jew are probably involved to some degree, but I don't think they're the party with the majority of power in the matter. I think most of the influence is coming from the EU and China, along with some influence from the muslims and jews.

Keeping this thread bumped.

Trudeau is also friends with Soros, Merkel, Clinton, and others it seems.

Someone else posted this in a thread, and I think that it is worth sharing here.

atlantadailyworld.com/2017/06/26/human-trafficking-survivor-exhibit-to-raise-awareness-at-atlanta-airport/

more panda fuckery. Luzzatto are Italian cryptoyids. Tamara Luzzatto is a big deal in wikileaks emails too

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they will claim the basement is at bucks, which is alefantis other restaurant which is right next fucking door and thus totally unreasonable to think that is involved.
also it doesnt even matter. the whole "run out of CPPs basement" is just a strawman created to easily debunk it afterwards. noone who looked into that stuff thinks the ring is run out of CPP, much less its basement. we just know alefantis and CPP are involved somehow. and we try to find out how

>b-but there is no such thing as government pedophile rings. These people are respectable. They are the pillars of your community, you basement dwelling neets need to get a hobby,
Job, or girlfriend.

LINK:washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2016/09/14/ex-mayor-charged-in-4-year-olds-rape-said-the-girl-was-a-willing-participant-records-say/?utm_term=.6eba4bc1a2ea

>unarchived clickbaiters
archive.is/mrNfx

>Pizza Symbolism
>(((Apps)))
>Glasses
That's way too much. Provide archived link, or post link, I archive it myself, I need to click this my own

translate.twitter.com/

youtube.com/watch?v=KCA3Q0PjfUA

Jon Robberson: Satanic child abuse ring

>abuse, Babylonian, Druids, Hollywood, Jan Robberson, SATANIC

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translate.twitter.com/
remember when twitter banned people for exposing pedoaccounts?
knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/twittergate

twitter founder is a leftist, pro-kike and surely in-depth degenerate of various kinds.

Holy fuck.

>archived 2 weeks ago
>archive.is/uX6rp
I guess thanks
>remember
No, I kept my distance from those threads, too creepy. Was baited by the CIA Alefantis title of this one. Might have to read up a bit. Too much coincidence

>washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/10/seattle-mayor-ed-murray-accused-of-paying-teen-boys-for-sex-will-not-seek-reelection/?utm_term=.bfe358199eb3

That's 10% Jewish Surname. On wikileaks she offers Podesta a nice stay into a swimming pool, and goes specific "with my little daughters".

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yea I know, and the panda profile

few days in a thread someone found this here with a lot of panda enthusiasts
flickr.com/people/29031240@N07/
looking through of the follower i found it weirdly enough many seem just like actual pandafanatics. however one thing is odd.
i went to pandalindas account which was followed by the one user mentioned and there is this pic
flickr.com/photos/97431127@N00/9841551026/
the adress on it apparently is some organisation that gathers donations for childsurgeries that cant afford it (as far as i can tell)
helphopelive.org/
has a heartlogo, even though just a normal one hold up by a guy. but there is again a panda-child connection, and also a chicken on the pic. maybe nothing, maybe relevant

This KIKE is a Associate Professor @uOttawa @Harvard & @McMasterU and Scientific Director of @CIHR_IRSC Institute of Population & Public Health.

On JEWitter he's xconstantly promoting muh jewish pharma, muh precious shot!

@shoffmania

Top Research, OP

Just a note: Canada was a big place for mk-ultra (McGill university).

We lack info about the victims and their families. Many of the kikes mentioned ITT could be born into a mk-ultra mindset.

>Jew
>globalist
>NGOs

makes me think

i think most of the "elite" were victims in the beginning
kids that get sexually abused often try to reanact this with fellow other kids after it happened as they think this is just normal behaviour. i believe this is pretty similar to MKUltra. during MKUltra you abuse and torture someone long enough for their personality to break. a new one will be formed that will either forget about all that traumatic stuff, or even kinda enjoy it to cope with it and not go crazy. they probably use drugs to steer or enhance the effect, and probably build in some trigger (like wearing a special shirt every time for the torture resulting in the desired personality coming out whenever you will). the new personality then can be shaped much like the issue with kids i mentioned in the beginning, telling them its the normal thing to do, making it believe they MUST follow that guys orders as everyone doesetc.
now if a kid gets abused (MKUltra or not) this will kid will automatically think this is normal, and since this is the normal thing to do they continue the "tradition" when they are adult themselves. im fairly sure most of those people among the so called elite are victims of ritual and sexual abuse as well and are just continuing the tradition.

also not my research desu

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_X

From the article: "the Camp had a communications tower that could send and transmit radio and telegraph communications, called Hydra." that in particular stood out to me for some reason.

Ewen Cameran was the MKULTRA doctor from Mcgill. He killed like 40 people in his experiments, he was also one of the Nuremberg guys who were psychoanalyzing /ourguys/ in Germany, (basically getting their Bolshevik dogs to hammer smash their testicles until they agreed to testify and say 25 million Jews died in camps)

interesting read right here,
>nytimes.com/1992/11/19/world/canada-will-pay-50-s-test-victims.html

Pic related

bump

>Luzzatto
>Kabbalist
>child abuse just like back in the good ol' days when these hooked nosed canaanites used to rape and sacrafice children

Jews, every single time.

WTF?!?! why would anyone even spend time online with an infant?

conspiracy.wikia.com/wiki/Monarch_Project

outpost-of-freedom.com/operatio.htm

vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/origins-and-techniques-of-monarch-mind-control/

bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon02.htm

For those who wish to learn more about Project Monarch. Knowing these key symbols is especially important:
trees
the Cabalistic "Tree of Life," with adjoining root systems
infinity loops
ancient symbols and letters
spider webs
mirrors or glass shattering
masks
castles
mazes
demons/monsters/aliens
sea shells
butterflies
snakes
ribbons
bows
flowers
hour glasses
clocks
robots
chain-of-command diagrams
schematics of computer circuitry boards

These are used as alters and triggers for the victims CIA mind control programs.

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I have a PhD in research into learning including conditioning. The idea of traumatic torture leading to forgetting is completely erroneous. Stress hormones strengthen memory formation, that's why people sometimes get PTSD. Low levels of abuse can however trigger sado-masochism as a coping mechanism as you said, but also because the body enters a state of euphoria under some states of duress. The willingness to re-enact the abuse comes both from the early extremely strong association of sexuality with such a power-dynamic, but also from the PTSD which leads to constant rumination over the past abuse and a desire to re-experience the dynamic in a position of control.

This is kind of a side note, but notice how many times (((they))) have been accused of some kind of satanic blood ritual child sacrifice shit. Look how many times throughout history different people with diffent languages and cultures from all over, have accused the jews of this shit for thousands of years.

>PhD.

Okay Mr. Smartypants, can you give us neets a quick rundown on MPD/ DID. Is that shit fringe or a legit thing?

>The idea of traumatic torture leading to forgetting is completely erroneous
ehm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repressed_memory
>'Betrayal Trauma Theory' proposes that in cases of childhood abuse, dissociative amnesia is an adaptive response, and that “victims may need to remain unaware of the trauma not to reduce suffering but rather to promote survival.”

webmd.com/mental-health/dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder#4-9
>While the causes of dissociative identity disorder are still vague, research indicates that it is likely a psychological response to interpersonal and environmental stresses, particularly during early childhood years when emotional neglect or abuse may interfere with personality development. As many as 99% of individuals who develop dissociative disorders have recognized personal histories of recurring, overpowering, and often life-threatening disturbances at a sensitive developmental stage of childhood (usually before age 9).
i guess your PhD is worth shit user

Explain pic

It's because they do it.

How could this place be connected to anything?

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Great work OP
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hi /schizogeneral/ how are all the mentally ill anons today?

I'm not a psychologist or psychiatrist, so my understanding of it is as good as yours. The problem with dissociative disorders is that its very difficult to dissociate (heh) the true beliefs of the patient from conscious and subconscious theatrics, and the two can become intertwined. Sort of like if you have a girlfriend who you catch doing something bad and she starts fake crying and after a while it becomes real because she works her way into hysterics, or when you get slightly drunk as a teenager and start acting crazy because you have an excuse. That's my non-expert opinion on it.

Repressed memories are completely unfalsifiable and unscientific psychoanalytic garbage. We know for a fact that any positive or negative reinforcer results in memory formation in proportion to its physical and relative salience, for instance mediated by dopamine, acetyl choline, and stress hormones released from the adrenal medulla and cortex. The whole issue is confounded by false memories being a thing, especially when you have some slimy psychoanalyst guiding a gullible patient.

Btw you forgot to quote this part of wikipedia:

>The existence of repressed memory recovery has not been accepted by mainstream psychology,[64][65][66][67]

comfy as fuck tbqh

How do I get into researching this stuff without getting v&
I remembered something from local newsreports from a long time ago which could be worth taking a look into

I take it the information is still fragmentary

Also OP, who the fuck are you? I get the feeling I should know you

>The existence of repressed memory recovery
>recovery
>not repressed memory itself
also no source for your claims

Actually the recovery is more plausible because spontaneous recovery is a thing:

learnmem.cshlp.org/content/11/5/501.full

However please tell me the neural substrate for memories being repressed? The brain is geared towards retrieving traumatic memories because it prepares us to deal with similar experiences in the future. We know how this process works from the cognitive level down to the level of ion channels in neurons. Why do soldiers get PTSD and not amnesia?

And please tell me what claims you wish me to source.

for the mechanism i dont know, the reason might be that the memory of the experience would be so traumatic that if remembered it will cause the individual to lose all reason to live on and thus is a survival mechanism making sure the person still tries to survive. as for why soldiers get PTSD, you might as well ask why some have phobias and other not, why some get easily addicted to stuff and others not. not every brain/psyche works the same.

what makes you think that you should know me? im just some user. these infos arent even mine and since i suck at researching i can hardly give any tips i would probably just look through the existing informations and see if anything pops up that is connected to something you know already and see if you can find the leads. or look into people you suspect to be involved and see if they have connections to this shit

Great.

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." - Marcus Aurelius

Well perhaps you can have a memory repressed in the sense that when ever you re-imagine it, you have an automatic impulse to not fixate on it because its uncomfortable -- but I don't think there is evidence for psychological-stress induced amnesia. I'm happy to change my view if I see evidence to the contrary, however.

>what makes you think that you should know me?
sorry, it's just that things you are doing, probably nonchalantly and subconsciously, ring to me like nav beacons

I probably don't know you indeed, yet it's like I've been railroaded to this thread, to help.
You may call it schizophrenia, but I can assure you it's not. It works kinda like 'meme magic' but on a more personal level

anyway I'll be digging, I myself am not so good at researching.
It was a case of a pedophile ring by (((them))), a sidenote in local chronicles, yet it stuck

every bit of information can be helpfull.

Fuk u cia