Genuine Communist debate/ discussion

For comrades to discuss various forms of communism.

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I am a Marxist-Leninist although i disagree a lot about what the soviet union did after 1956 is still view them as the prime example of socialism.

If you use any of these arguments you are wrong and uneducated. Think before you say:
>Stalin was Communist
>North Korea is Communist
>Cuba was a failure
>Communism is against human nature
>Communism is a failure
>Communism led to genocide
>Khmer Rogue was a failure
>Neoliberals = leftists
>USA won the Cold War

fuck off to imaginary ancapistan

Literally this

Kys commie scum

Kill your self you genocidal maniac

Problem?

Fuck off

ITT brainlets who never read a book and are brainwashed by 1950s American imperialist propaganda.

Every attempt to at communism has failed and reverted back to private ownership. For good reason too.

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>be me
>it's 1952
No one took it too serious what's going on.

The Soviet Union had a fucklot of fiction writers, but we don't read it anymore. It's just a void in the national culture.

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>Stalin was Communist
>North Korea is Communist
No theyre socialists communism is impossible to achieve
>Cuba was a failure
*Cuba is a failure
>Communism is against human nature
>Communism is a failure
It cant be a failure because it can never exist and it is against human nature.
>Communism led to genocide
agreed because of above points but socialism sure as fuck will see the holodomer great leap forward etc etc
>Khmer Rogue was a failure
>Neoliberals = leftists
Khmer Rogue was a failure because the killed or enslaved all of their educated professionals. What are you talking about in regards to neo liberalism all you leftys have varying definitions nowadays ?
>USA won the Cold War
The soviet union imploded and china is making our nikes.

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Reminder communism is for preteens

Oh if only there was a third way

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You have no idea what you are talking about.

please explain to me how communism won the cold war

>every stage requires millions dead

There is brother, the way to eternal peace, harmony, beauty, progress, end to murder and crime.

“Himself a Jew, Marx has around him, in London and France, but especially in Germany, a multitude of more or less clever, intriguing, mobile, speculating Jews, such as Jews are every where: commercial or banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades, with one foot in the bank, the other in the socialist movement, and with their behinds sitting on the German daily press — they have taken possession of all the newspapers — and you can imagine what kind of sickening literature they produce. Now, this entire Jewish world, which forms a single profiteering sect, a people of blooksuckers, a single gluttonnous parasite, closely and intimately united not only across national borders but across all differences of political opinion — this Jewish world today stands for the most part at the disposal of Marx and at the same time at the disposal of Rothschild. I am certain that Rothschild for his part greatly values the merits of Marx, and that Marx for his part feels instinctive attraction and great respect for Rothschild.
This may seem strange. What can there be in common between Communism and the large banks? Oh! The Communism of Marx seeks enormous centralization in the state, and where such exists, there must inevitably be a central state bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, which. speculates on the work of the people, will always find a way to prevail ....”
Mikhail Bakunin

those numbers are blown out of proportion also capitalism and nazism have killed more people then socialism ever could.

Anyone here having things click and make sense?
Having so e cognitive disonance?

thats a strasser quote idiot

>doesn't respond to actual arugments against him ideology
>responds to weak insults

GOMUNISM

Marx's father was formerly a jew who converted to Christianity and the whole "jew" argument is so fucking laughable. Kid just read a fucking book.

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>every system collapses and fails and kills millions
>instead of admitting this you attack and use insults

Are you even trying? Can you tell anyone why they'd want to try something that has failed every single time and caused incomprehensible amounts of suffering?

Off my board commie scum

We are socialists eho continue adolf hitlers vision for beauty, true love, harmony and progression.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=xy8kPfqzTwU

They weren't even arguments

>if I deny the truth I win

Doesn't work that way fuckboy. You're just proving that your system can only work in a moron's imagination.

>he doesnt know judaism is an ethnic as well as a religious identity
Maybe you are the one who needs to read a book

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max was jewish
lenin was jewish
>radek was jewish
>martov was jewish
>goldman was jewish
>Trotsky was jewish

"lol weak argument bro"

It has not cuba is a good example of this not to mention the ussr before gorbachev was the perfect example of a socialist state as someone who has been to a socialist country the system works perfectly.

Marxist communism is the best in my personal view. I'd prefer to live in an atheist-state free from people that lack intelligence (religious people)

No you idiot you responded to the non arguments and did not respond to the arguments

Thank you! I need to use this, a lot of people are uneducated on the subject.

>socialist
>ends up having to allow some level of free trade

Show me evidence those numbers are true show me the fucking evidence

show me evidence of the holocaust first

>Cuba works perfectly

Then why haven't you moved there? Or moved to North Korea?

>I'm too lazy to do any research

I can tell I'm dealing with an intellectual titan here.

You first for your ugly "holocaust" paintig us as murderers.

So long as theres no false lies about national socialism we will triumph.

I thought you were going by the religious few point. but the fact you legit think jews run socialism is fucking retarded

There is nothing genuine about communism. Ecconomic determinism is unscientific dogmatic stupidity.

>90 percent of leading communist and socialist are Jewish

"pure coincidence"

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Our job as national socialists is to maintain the happiness and smiles of the world.

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Also the Communist Revolution in the Weimar republic was lead by jews which is why hitler interned them

Marxism-Leninism has openly supported atheist views and encouraged science to be taught in schools. Also communist say that religion is a primitive thing humanity has not grown out of and that it is a weapon that the capitalists use against the working class.

Why would i want to abandon my country? i want to fight to make it free

>science
>race doesn't exist

GOMUNISM WORKS :-DDDDDD

says the guy who has probably believes everything robert conquest has said

>proceeds to believe everything marx said

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>Fascists are our greatest Ally

Prove me wrong.

No, you think you're entitled to the labors of others because you read a utopian fantasy novel by some fat fucking jew in the 1850's and in your deluded mind you think this allows you to tell others how to live. Add on top of that your complete lack of historical information on the applications of communism and you become a parody.

Your autism is off the fucking charts.

>when you get outplayed at every turn throughout the war and lose 17 million more people then even the losing side

Tell me how to do communism, we legalize theft and then we habe communism?
No, you do not want communism you want to remove the rights of the goyim and all smiles and happiness in the world, even with hitlers defeat and the entires worlds cspital and resources the one capital we yave of our will is sufficient to win.

1920 Russia
Peasants selling body parts at a market

Why need numbers when theres pictures to prove it

It was one of the worst things to ever happen.

>what is the Holodomor
That famine alone killed more in only two years then Hilter killed in supposedly five

>also implying that more German soldiers were killed when compared to USSR soldiers

ok so ....... how about the other revolutions like the russian one with lenin and stalin or the chinese one with mao or the korean or the vietnamese or the cuban one. If you say they were under some jewish conspiracy then you are fucked in the head.

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I bet you are the type of guy who watches red scare propaganda videos and calls them "proof" against communism.

>Cuba was a failure
>implying it isn't

>Khmer Rogue was a failure
You mean genociding a fourth of your population then getting invaded by Vietnam for fucking with them, then dying of cancer in the woods is a success?

IM guessing you are a NAZBOL?

I bet you are this type of guy

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>when you only argument against somebody is you bet they do something that has nothing to do with the debate at hand

Is british conquest of half the world reficulous?
Why would jewish conquest of russia, cuba, benezuela and communist states be rediculous?

All communists are servants of Jews.

I do hate me some liberals...

No, communism doesnt work mate

>when you confuse founders of an idea and copiers of it

Listen here lets look at the success of socialism in the USSR for example in just 50 years it went from a backwater shithole to one of the most of not thee most advanced country on earth. in just 50 years they rebuilt the country after the civil war and they turned it into a industrial power house they also gave universal education and made sure everyone in the country was able to go to a hospital they gave gave out right for women gays and the working class. Kid i could do this all day.

Trotsky was a Jew and he conquered Russia, Hernan Cortes was a Spaniard and he conquered Mexico.

>nazi killed more than socialist ever could
>more than socialist ever could

Damn what was the Nazi party again..?

>USSR
>success
>dies for no reason

Tell uncle Marx I said hi when you go to hell

It's a pretty bad attempt at changing the subject. He doesn't have an actual rebuttal.

The soviet union destroyed the nazi army even when the soviet unions allies tries to stab them in the back multiple times it was the soviet union which broke the back of the nazi war machine.

>there are "communists' in this thread right now posting on androids and iphones, wearing big brand name clothes, and drinking mega corporation sodas.

>capitalism and nazism have killed more people then socialism ever could.
>capitalism
By the virtue of capitalism actually working and sustaining itself for the past centuries and not devolving into a giant pile of poverty and genocide anytime anyone practices it, yeah, you could say that.

To make an analogy, it would be like saying carbohydrates is as unhealthy as cyanide because carbs has been around for longer.

>nazism
How do you figure that? That was like maybe about a decade of bullshit and then some war and genocide, counting both he holocaust and the deathtoll of the actual warfare the nazis can't even hope to compete with all the bullshit commies got up to in the 20th century.

That picture was taken during the civil war around the same time a famine broke out. Are you even trying?

How the fuck did the USA not win the Cold War

The USSR literally fell into shambles via diplomacy and economics

This is some retarded ass bait.
It's also very much against human nature, it's only the degenerate mongols that want gibs who like the ideology of communism because it benefits them.

>it just works

>nazis
>socialists
>commence nazis and communists REEEEEE'ing at the top of their lungs

Fidel castro was a Jew and he conquered Cuba, Chavez was a Jew and he conquered venezuela, Rosa luxemburg was a Jew and she tried to conquer Germany.

So you're advocating butchering and enslaving millions due to some USSR propaganda?

The holodomor is a fucking myth there was a famine in soviet ukraine but it had nothing to do with the soviet government

Fidel Castro was A Fucking Leaf, actually.

>the holodomor was a myth
Yeah, that was totally a natural famine.

They are servsnts if Jews misled to butcher destabslize and allow the Jewish masters to reign.