Why in Europe there aren't any metropolises like thouse in East Asia? Isn't that sign...

Why in Europe there aren't any metropolises like thouse in East Asia? Isn't that sign, that Western Civilization has lost most of its vigor? I know, that living in small towns is usually more pleasant, but progress(no, not in left-wing sense) isn't bound to be. In the short run, agriculture and industrial revolution has lowered the standards of living of the mases.

Because you have Muslims.

London for one has clay soil that was shit for modern skyscrapers until very recent building methods using deep foundations.

Nah, how is it related?

Well for one, EA cities are much more populous.

People don't want to rebuild Historical centres because we care about our history, EAs don't and have small shitty towns that Britain built up for them. Singapore got rich as a British trade port, so essentially, the British built Singapore, not the Chinks.

Europe has no culture

all the media we consume come from the US and Japan

sometimes I wonder how can we manage to maintain such a high purchasing power (well maybe not us in the south)

because European cities have old architecture

Not really.

Maybe not in Greece, which is poor as shit and hasn't evolved as a national identity past Rome conquering them. The rest of Europe is fine though.

Yes really, where do you think they became relevant and got money? Same thing with Macau, Hong Kong and the other colonies, they only became big rich cities because of the West.

Western hemisphere, eastern philosophy. You gotta get rid of altruism. That is what is holding us back.

Because large cities aren't a sign of civilization, you moron. Tell me, what's so civilized about Lagos, Bombay, Karachi or Manilla? What are the good things those cities have that Paris, London or Berlin don't have? And more, why do niggers and Chinks of all Asia try moving to Europe or the USA instead of staying in their chaotic shitholes where you can only breath with a fucking face mask?

Fuck off rebbit

Its the same in the US as well. Our infrastructure is completely stagnant and withering away. Nothing has been revamped since the 70s.

So dont give me some bullshit excuse about historical centers blocking the way towards progress. The problem is that we prefer to invest in stupid marxist social causes and military bullshit, instead of improve our cities and towns.

It's not about the size of the dick. It's about what you do with it.

old* here means centuries, not decades old

>What is culture and identity

You don't really get it do you? We pay a lot more in infrastructure than they do because we want to keep these buildings, because we care.

Now you faggots who hate your culture and identity can whine and complain, but frankly its better this way. Skyscrapers are hideous and a blot in a city. We could rebuild our shit easily enough, but we just don't want to. Go cry about it somewhere else.

Better yet, move to Singapore then come crying back in a year.

Out of Asian cities, Japanese ones are probably the most tolerable but they're still pretty drab. Chinese cities are miserable. The other countries are third world tier

Also, we aren't corrupt and have our governments pay privately owned construction companies owned by the politicians giving them contract work.

>some bullshit excuse about historical centers blocking the way towards progress

It's actually true. Historical city centers can block developments many miles away. Many such cases in Amsterdam for example. A tower built far away from the city center could ruin the "views" in the old city center and because of that it won't be allowed.

Living in apartments is less comfortable than living in houses. Westerners are richer.

Uhhh, sweetie, that's because the u.s. has no real history.

Good.

Singapore is both large, ad clean. Same as Koran cities.
European identity is about moving forward, not about passively contemplating glorious past.

Asians building the biggest skyscrapers is just a small-penis. Freudian complex.

Bullshit. Apartments get built in places were there isn't much space for new developments (unless you are in the Middle East where they build them to show off). Because of this the price of these apartments goes up. In many cases a apartment in the middle of the city is more expensive than a house on the outskirts of that same city.

Its really not, go to Auschwitz and get the ovens running one last time so you can go out the right way.

OP, can you define what you mean by progress?

The reason we don't have megacities is because we value quality of life. The average Japanese apartment is smaller than my living room. There are new apartments for the middle-class in Hong Kong that are 18 square meters in total, that's about the size of my bedroom.

>OP doesnt understand Quality over Productivity the thread

Must be a Chink himself desu, didn't know that Poland had any, but the robot thinking means it must be.

Fuck off gook lover

Too much American influence in his life. Bigger is better mentality.

East Asia cities are relatively new unlike the other cities older than Christ. Preservation of original architecture is implied

that looks korean

Read Spengler's Decline of west. Western "Faustian" imperative is to subjugate nature.
More, or less applying technology to increase own control on word.

Then why are we spending so much to keep these buildings? Why does my government not smash parliament and build a cement office, why do we not bring back the old Commieblocs?

>More, or less applying technology to increase own control on word.

We already control the world, why do we need to rebuild our cozy towns too

OK, but it is quite new idea. May by we should go back to old Christian ascetic virtues?

In DC, no building can be taller than a certain height based on the Washington Monument. many historical cities in Europe have similarly restrictive laws, which sorta freezes their key sites in time.

Think of all the tourism $$ generated through Colosseum visits in Rome, or Eiffel Tower visits in Paris. destroying them to build a skyscraper wouldnt be worth compromising what is essentially a golden goose that lays golden eggs filled with nationalism yolk

Singapore is clean because it's fucking rich and it benefited from being managed by Europeans - the locals learned how to handle stuff. Despite all, Singapore is a dystopian shithole where everything is forbidden for "the greater good". It also has no culture past the colonial time. Unsurprisingly Singaporeans love Europe. For them walking through Paris, London, Vienna, or Venice is absolutely amazing. Seeing countryside with actual animals is extraordinary. So much for Asia's best city. Tokyo, Osaka, and Hong Kong are not to bad. All other Japanese cities are boring as hell. Bangkok is crappy but at least entertainment is good. Seoul is falling apart, and is pretty boring. Indian cities smell like shit. Chinese cities have toxic air and everything is falling apart. Hanoi is similar to Chinese cities. Jakarta and Karachi are both Third World Muslim shitholes that would fit well in Africa.

>Singapore is a dystopian shithole where everything is forbidden for "the greater good".
Could you give example, and why it is wrong?

>apartment
Well maybe, but most Japs live in detached houses.
Also housing prices in Europe are exploding.

We don't build skyscrapers because we don't have HUGE businesses here. Also, they will block the view of our historical monuments, and some cities have laws where you can't build higher than certain buildings.

>We don't build skyscrapers because we don't have HUGE businesses here
Right. As I said it is sign of decline.

Forgot to sage the b8 thread.

Average European IQ: 100 (also largely cucked)
Average east Asian IQ: 107

It is only a matter of time until center of human civilization moves over to the east.

glitzy progress =/= social mobility

you sound like a thirteen year old

why do East Asians act like wild, selfish animals when they come to the west?
They scream when they talk, they block the center of the train and make it hard for people to fucking get past them while they look into the sky and ignore the line of people trying to get by, it's like they have very little social IQ

Yes. I also think that western dominance was coincidence. The world is going back to its natural order.

Nah you dont understand western culture. It's about using the flame of the past to light the darkness of the future. Blind progress and the belief in it is no infesting our culture. Rome was destroyed by the same thing when people stopped caring and looking to the glorious past both via degeneracy and fatalistic Christianity.

Kyoto is nice.

>Why in Europe there aren't any metropolises like thouse in East Asia?
Because the asians are new-wealth and are acting just like niggers with cash. They are spending on bling saying 'hey look at me!' Same with the oil-niggers

Ugy asians are the new ugly americans from back when America was great and prosporus

Megalithic enterprise is not a sign of progress. Soviet design bureaus were huge. I'd rather have Northrop than Sukoi in 1965.

Americans didn't shit on the floor.

After reading Chinese history and realizing all it would take to turn them into a failed state is tariffs I have zero concern. The west needs to purge the traitors taking their silver and deal with them.

Because these big citys can't simply contain the beauty of european city, for example weimar, its basically /pol heaven:
>Cultural rich
>Payable
>Everybody minds their own business
>no sandniggers
>few non europeans

It is.

That IQ difference is because you powercreep your children and are rotting in a non regulated capitalistic or gouvermemt controlled market, where eat or get eaten in a close to primal level takes place

Because you took the failures?
Look at Hong Kong now, a lot are moving due to the change in political landscape
Look at Syria/ Libya/ Nigeria, same deal
While real civilization builders stand their ground and fight...

It is good. People need discipline.

In Europe every village amd town is 5-10km from eachother. There is mo need for a megacity.

Yeah and it totally does not increase your suicide rate drastically and destroys any individuality

SUBHUMANS live in apartments, men live in houses.