So tomorrow, at 9:00, the border dispute will be resolved by the five arbiters. What's Sup Forums's opinion on this?
Mine is that we should, obviously, get the water. The reasoning being that even when not taking history into consideration, it'a better for both Slovenia and Croatia. Croatian economy is to some extent dependant on ours, just as ours is on German, and without the means to reach international waters, our economy WILL take a hit, which in return will be a hit on Croatias' economy as well. It is literally better for both of us this way.
Croatia doesn't really gain or lose much either way, it's just a meaningless spot of water to them.
Discuss with arguments, please.
Caleb Long
Make Slovenia Great Again.
Juan Sanders
Sorry, lads ... this can only be resolved by war. Also, we haven't had a good happening in a while..
Landon Sullivan
Not an argument War? Are you insane?
Justin Wilson
Take Italys sea you dirty handed mountain-croats!
Cameron Ross
build a corridor through italy if you really want international waters.
Daniel Ross
Croatia should kill itself. I agree that we should allow another country to be present in the waters. Croatia is jewing and sperging out here they already have a greater coast than slovenia n they wanna take that last bit too. >History >Rightful clay
There is no such thing as rightful clay
David Edwards
>we should get someone else's sea because we want it WHAAAAA WHAAA
Brandon Parker
How would that look? I can't even imagine it. This is a really weird argument.
Kayden Adams
It's not yet decided if it's yours or ours. Neither have claim.
Are such simple things difficult to understand for you?
Eli Robinson
Why is stealing from Italy crazy, but stealing from Croatia ok? Nevermind, I forgot that you are a mountain-croat and therefor any attempt at arguing with you is in vain.
Carson Taylor
>everyone including Slovenia agreed to the present day borders 30 years ago >whaaa whaaa we changed our mind, gibsmedat
Austin Morgan
It's not croatian water. Italys water is italian. This spot of water is neither croatian neither slovenian, as it has not yet been decided.
No wonder croatia is so poor if you guys are this incredibly stupid that you can't even grasp the notion of ownership.
Jace Lee
>weird argument You moron have you even looked into our border disputes Look at the drnovsek-racan agreement which sabor turned down, because this is what will beb the most probable outcome ie a corridor
Justin Phillips
>So tomorrow, at 9:00, the border dispute will be resolved by the five arbiters
Regardless of the decision, the water and the land shall remain Croatian as it was since the indepedence.
Zlovenians don't be tats.
Wyatt Ward
Hrvat vedno tat
Hudson Taylor
>his spot of water is neither croatian neither slovenian Looking at the maps, it's marked as Croatian and that's the way it's been since 1992. You agreed to it. >No wonder croatia is so poor Can Slovenes go a day without boasting about their 200 euro higher salaries? The only way you'll steal our sea is by using military force which means never because you don't have any.
Blake Hill
>agree to arbitrage >won't respect it if it doesn't go their way
Truly Slovenia is the division between balkan and Europe.
Tyler Stewart
>agree to arbitrage >slovene kikes cheat >pull out
James Cooper
>Capodistria
Carter Sullivan
I don't know about 200€ mate, I'm making more money than your president does and I'm not even paid that well.
Christopher Sanchez
Croatia already has a shit ton of sea access, so why can't Slovenia have a little?
Xavier Ross
>agree to arbitrage >find out you're getting screwed >cry foul typical croat ovaj sud ni dobar
Adam Cox
>there is no such thing as rightful clay >checks flag
Holy moly, did you escape your Serb irredentism class? I mean no offense, but it is usually your country/kinsmen that cry about rightful claim. Tbh I am only surprised that no one wanted to return Dušan era borders
Aiden Ortiz
Croats don't have border agreements with any of their neighbours. Once again, Europe starts with Slovenia, south is balkan. This is the human garbage we have to deal with.
Luke Young
You have 2 cars I dont have a car Gib me 1
Elijah Perry
vote for GOD in next election fags
Jack Reed
One has to work for cars. Croats didn't have to work for that water, they just said it's theirs.
Carter Mitchell
>human garbage we have to deal with >said the country whose largest contribution to European and world history are a few skiers and a golddigger
Angel Myers
I'm with you Slovenia Bro.
Slovenia has a right to reach international waters without transiting the waters of another country.
I'm not even sure why Croatia would be a dick about that.
Ryder Ortiz
Are you seriously boasting about 200-300 euros? >muh not balkans >muh t-turks >muh central europe How can a nation be so insecure? Because that's not how things are done. Italy already has so much land, why not give Slovenia a little? You can't just have something for free because you want it.
Justin Price
Why would u vote for him
Sebastian Ortiz
Not equivalent at all. It would be more like if I had 1000 cars, and you my good friend, wanted 5.
Benjamin Evans
It's not land, it's sea access.
Logan Williams
>garbage you cheated, got caught colluding
Leo Allen
Even those you speak of are pathetic within their own framework. If youre gonna talk about historic clay go for the best, not meet in the middle.
But that is why i say there is no such thing as rightful clay, countries borders change and its people move and change demographics, if everyone were to pick and choose what clay is there, there simply wont be any clay left.
Isaiah Young
Except we gave birth to founding father of space travel. And first proof of calculation of Ludolfs number (Pi). And gave basis to the american constitution. And...
Meanwhile the only thing bosnia did is having the lowest average IQ in entire Europe, barely beating African niggers at 84. 84 IQ in Slovenia means you are entitled to early pension for being too mentally retarded to work. That's bosnias average.
Go fuck yourself you muzzie retard
Michael Wright
Look at the shape of our country. Our ancestors fought for the little land we have. We lost territory to a massive empire, later went against entire Yugoslavia only to give away territory for free to whiny mountain kikes? The decision tomorrow will mean nothing even if it's in our favor.
Gabriel Lewis
fuck ... balkan war again
Nathan Long
>Umag
Kayden Moore
And at another point in history your country was enslaved and its boarders changed more times than you can possibly count. What your "ancestors" fought for in terms of territory is something that is not credible when it comes to determining what territory a country should have and magically get from another.
Andrew Clark
Integrate both countries into Hungary. Problem solved.
Kayden Johnson
>Went against yugoslavia How excatly? By saying you wont allow JNA forces to cross over and then doing the exact opposite?
Aiden Moore
Why not just divide the the waters evenly? Slovenia should get the bay, itsly should have everything northeast if that, and Croatia should have everything below
Thomas Clark
WE WUZ JEFFERSON N SHIT NOW WE WHITE HOUSE, NIGGA
Zachary Watson
Why Italy and Croatia bully little Slovenia ? Both of them have giant open coastlines and can't let little Sovenia have a bit? Guess someone is jelly that they're woman was not chosen to be married to the POTUS.
Nathaniel Sanchez
MATTHIAS CORVINUS WILLS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andrew Thomas
You're in bed with the most powerful man on Earth, pretty sure you will be made great again Trump is looking to re-read eastern Europe and help dig it out of it's communist PTSD for good
Jack Young
Our prime minister and woman president want Croatia to be EU-rificized. They will give Slovenia as much of sea as they want and Slovenia knows that.
Juan Gomez
Everything below Slovenia is balkan territory, common sense and politics dont work there especially when it comes to croats
Zachary Cooper
>wat is knežji kamen
yeah, uneducated retarded bosniak detected. You gotta go back muslim filth
William Nelson
It should be like this desu, Italy already cucked Slovenia out of a real coastline and does Croatia really need those waters? At the very least give the fuckers some kind of movement ability or an elongated corridor
Slavs aren't very good at conflict resolution
Nathan Ward
>Ocean access >The same as a motor vehicle you purchase and build from scratch Nein
Ryder Ramirez
Why don't you just give them the goddamn bit of sea? You've got an entire fucking coast and it looks like they can't even get to international waters without this "corridor". Why are you such idiots?
Christopher Watson
There is only one god, please do not insult us
Kevin Robinson
WE WUZ NASA WE WUZ ALGEBRA WE WUZ FOUNDING FATHERS WE WUZ WHITE HOUSE
WE
Luke Peterson
We will not allow it unless you Blanda up with Austria again, they need help
Caleb Ward
WE WUZ GROFS AND SHIT
Jayden Morgan
Historical facts aren't we wuz ahmed. Pick up a book, if you can even read.
Isaac Carter
>has right Not according to international maritime law. >fair Mine is mine, yours is yours. >dick Ad hoc arbitrage... let's go to international tribunal for the law of the sea - that is Cro proposal from the beginning... but nooooo Slo knows they cant make case there.
Jaxson Gutierrez
Why don't you fucking understand that they have no claim to that sea.they entire argument is that they need this access,becase they have no entry to international sea.So what?Let them fight for it if they want it.
Luke Miller
Because international courts take fucking forever and the winner is decided by who throws the most money at the council not who is right
Andrew Ortiz
Istria and Dalmazia belong to Italy Here's how we solve the dispute: you git the fuck out of clay nostra
Angel Parker
Give it all to Italy
William Myers
It's a tiny bit of fucking water and you've got an entire coastline. You're being petty and pathetic, probably because you're emasculated by the fact that they make more money than you, lol.
Daniel Watson
How long has that strip of land been Italian that borders Slovenia(as in italian people living there)? Is it a South Tyrol type thing?
Jack Gutierrez
Landlocked countries please go.
also no fags
Samuel Rodriguez
Shut up codfucker you lost your right to speak of the sea long ago
Alexander Reed
We want to solve land and sea borders Second of all we already had a deal drnovsek-racan and sabor turned it down
Nolan Powell
WE WUZ BOOK READERZ
BITCHES DON'T KNOW BOUT MY KATEKIZEM
Jace Allen
>You gotta go back muslim filth I really wish it were possible to kick them out. Just gather everyone that got handed citizenship 25 years ago because muh refugees and their descendants as well and just kick them the fuck out.
Easton Powell
>Why don't you just give them the goddamn bit of sea? You've got an entire fucking coast
Jesus Christ, what a female way of thinking. ''Whaaa whaaa, he has a lot and he doesn't. Give him some, you have plenty''
Real world doesn't work that way. The land and water are Croatian and giving it up would be an infrigment of Croatian integrety. Even if tomorrow you were to wake up in a world completly owned by Croatia except for Zlovenia, your argument would still be invalid.
Luke Taylor
The rats got it after ww2 for being the "winners", even though they aligned with Hitler. Perks of being a big country.
Jonathan Nguyen
>historical facts The influencing of the american constitution by jean bodin's book owned by jefferson is a meme and has been proven as such; the only ones who claim it did are venetic theory tier "historians"
Elijah Ramirez
What about the shite slavs that are not Arab and just live peacefully?
Brayden Evans
It belonged to Venice and to the Byzantines before them.
Xavier King
Here comes hunor
John Anderson
Italy need more space. Give back Istria.
William Morgan
>Perks of being a big country. for you
Jose Gutierrez
Italy get out of clay now Slovenia deserves it more
Colton Ramirez
border disputes should be resolved by conquest
Zachary Murphy
Your flag matches your cucked mindset Nigel bin Salman al Muhammed
Jeremiah Thomas
Son, you'll make me start neo-fojbe.
Anthony Sullivan
>Byzantines Larpers don't count as people Venetians are Italy's jews
Alexander Davis
Ceded to Italy after World War One from Austria-Hungary. It's literally older than Slovenia itself.
Italians have historically made up the majority of the population in most Istrian cities
David Jenkins
This desu I would like a Balkan genre the Syria general is starting to get old plus it might be as good as ug.
Evan Evans
Are you a woman?
Asher Richardson
>just live peacefully These people are a nuisance. They can't even speak the language after 25 years here. They keep to themselves and start fights. They're basically nogs.
Adrian Parker
Not with slavs hombre, they fight for decades and slaughter each other like crazy Would be safer to settle with treaty Plus the entire region would be fucked because we would arm all sides and everything would get blown to hell due to shiny American toys
Dylan Richardson
This is why sl*vs don't deserve istria, give it all back to Italy. They'll do better with it anyway, they fucking made it nice in the first place
Ian Martinez
I mean, gib Dubrovnik and Split at least
Xavier Long
I take back what I said then >World War One It's The Great War, don't insult it with such a terrible name
Lincoln Young
Serbs, croats and bosniaks and other ex yugo filth here are literally what niggers are in USA. Literally.
Nolan Taylor
Where are they mostly from?
Jaxon Wilson
>muh feelings We went to arbitrage which is INTERNATIONAL LAW - OBJECTIVE you found out you're getting screwed and you backoff from the agreement
Josiah Reed
Yes all parties involved play king of the hill on the disputed water with their navies. The neutral arbiters decide how long you have to hold the hill to win.
Brayden Martin
>dude just give in and be a cuck lmao >winner is decided by who throws the most money No amount of money would help Slovenes in the international court. They know they'd lose because it's a nonsensical dispute based entirely on gibs. Daily reminder that tomorrow's decision is irrelevant. The actual decision will be made by the international court. >We want to solve land and sea borders There nothing to solve regarding the sea border. Everyone agreed to it 30 years ago. International court or gtfo and no cheating this time, Janez. I have nothing against Slovenia, but this kind of nigger-tier gibsme behavior is not something I expected from Slovenia.
Luis Scott
Europeans have become decadent. They crave problems and are currently importing radical islam and sub saharan savages.
An Eastern European war will sate the white man's desire for blood and mayhem for at least another decade.
Evan Jenkins
Croatians are already throwing a fit over some alleged corruption attemps, so the Slovenes will probably win. In turn the butthurt will be so massive that Croatia will start a nuclear program. As usual, this non issue will be remembered for generations and will be discussed right after the issue of Teslas nationality is solved.
Noah Hill
i just cant resist....mhhhRAH....gueh...spblikskkk.... ISTRIA E DALMAZIA NE SLOVENIA NE CROAZIA
ITS NOT SPLIT , ITS SPALATO ITS NOT DUBROVNIK,ITS RAGUSA DI DALMAZIA AND MOST IMPORTANTLY