Why does Trump now like our Apprenticeship system?

Our system is literally broken with many apprentices lacking in basic math and language skills. And Trump wants this system to be implemented in the US? Why???

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Because trades and apprenticeships are for the stupid people who can't cut it at college. This gives them something to do and learn so they can contribute to society. Actually a good suggestion by Trump and I support it.

You don't need math or language skills for blue collar jobs. Do you seriously think that the guys who went to a Hauptschule would do a PhD in Physics or make it to investment banks in Frankfurt if they went to uni? To each his own.

yours is just a cheap copy of the original, so no wonder it's bad

>Because trades and apprenticeships are for the stupid people who can't cut it at college. This gives them something to do and learn so they can contribute to society. Actually a good suggestion by Trump and I support it.

But the German system is really, really bad. It is one of the reasons why we are in the mess we are right now.

>Finally Found a German Thing He Likes
But muh Hitler

Apprenticeship has nothing to do with your math and language skills.
When you have language skills then you are proabably some mud shit from Kebabistan.
Slavs meanwhile learn pretty fast german.

When you are shit at math, you probably were shit at school, are a woman.

He's a college-educated fuck head that thinks he is better than blue-collar workers just because they don't speak no good.

They're cheaper.
Yesterday I had a conversation with my best friend and he told me that at his old job there were people working 50hrs a week for 200euro a month - only because then they can go to ANOTHER job offer and claim "work experience" at a "reputable" firm, all the while they exploit idiots that are willing to do basically everything for basically nothing

The program is now a part of Perspectives for Young Refugees and offers training to about a dozen participants at a time in six-month cycles. They've trained between 60 and 70 young refugees so far.

While the chamber’s program gives participants skills and much-needed networking opportunities to land an apprenticeship, success rates are still anemic: Only four graduates of the program have received a job placement, even though the chamber works with some 900 companies in the region with the capacity to take on trainees.

Schäfer defended the program, but said six months just isn’t enough. Many refugees’ language skills are still too poor and their professional experience too little to qualify for German firms, he said.

"The training level of the refugees that are coming to us is shockingly low," Schäfer said. "Regardless of aptitude, the basic prerequisite to an apprenticeship is knowledge of the language."

Hard does one become a plumber or carpenter in a America? In Australia you do a 4 year apprenticeship working for a company while doing the occasional 2 or 3 week training block at a trade school. There's also a log book and some tests you have to complete in order to become qualified.

>He's a university-educated rich dude that thinks he is better than uneducated blue-collar workers
Yes, so?

Elaborate

Well, english is easier so that would make it better, don't you think?

Trump will say literally anything he thinks people will like.
It used to be to impress his rich customers.
Now it's the poor suckers who elected him.

They already seem to view this as the sort of this that will play well in the rust belt. so It doesn't really matter if it works.
People rarely check if policies work. If their life improves satisfactorily they will attribute it to good government and vote for the incumbent. If they feel things have got worse or not improved enough they will vote them out.

Apply to join a plumber union.

>with many apprentices lacking in basic math and language skills
Because Trump's (((masters))) want the American people to be like this. Much easier to rule them this way, you see.

Non-MSM censorship version.

I'm a college graduate who later joined the trades (industrial electrician). I was miserable in corporate cubicle culture environments, so I took a paycut and switched gears and am much happier solving problems, building useful things, and getting endorphins from moving around instead of sitting in a chair all day. I know several university graduates in my trade.

I know many I went to university with could not hack it in my trade, and of course vice versa, sure. It's odd to see someone on Sup Forums think that college students/graduates are actually intelligent given all the SJW examples to the contrary frequently posted on /pol./

Unless you are LARPposting as a classist Democrat who hates the working/middle class, in parallel to the phenomenon within the left described by Orwell in The Road To Wigan Pier.

He's prepping us to be independent and doers again. 1940s USA will make a comeback soon. It will have to in order to survive the coming conflicts.

There is a union path and a nonunion path.

But the nonunion shops actually don't want their apprentices to become journeymen because they'd have to pay them more. They also treat their apprentices like shit usually so they tend to leave the trade.

Then they complain that there is a shortage and they need to bring in foreign labor similar to the H1B visa program, its all of their own doing because they don't want to pay their workers well or treat them decently, H1B abuse is a wet-dream for them.

Copyrights our system. We have Different levels so you can give more money to the smart white kids and waste less on niggers. Very good edu for smart kids like me and most importantly we have the teachers Union under our thumb

Democrats have demonized trade work in our country for too long.

clever, but that's the Rachel Madow version

is it that broken ?
Here in France , many politician praise it because it allegedly decrease the youth unemployement.

Teehee, siemens

>German cancer is spreading

If only...

Weird, in America if you don't have at least algebra, trigonometry, and reading comprehension skills you can't even get past the initial testing of the apprenticeship programs.

I like how Germans do apprenticeships for IT, more organized and better practices instilled so you have less issues with basic shit like doing fucking updates so you don't get malware.

Dude, Trump's daughter married a Jew and converted to Judaism. His cabinet is filled with globalists, Jews and their servants. His Jewish-Zionist son in law is his major adviser and basically runs the country. The only thing he's actually managed to accomplish is to continue fighting Israel's wars and sell weapons to Israeli-supported terrorist organizations like ISIS and Al Quaeda. And now we know he was planning a no-fly zone and a big-ass US military operation against Syria since the very beginning (yeah, just like Shitlary - Tulsi Gabbard discusses how she met with him about that, I think, days after he was elected, way before the inauguration).

He'll sooner put you and other Americans in a concentration camp.

PAPER FOLDING!

Gee I wonder why our president likes the apprentices

Bullshit

Germany apprecitenship system hasn't changed since the middle ages
It's a horros for every young person entering it

Basically it's a Meister that you supposedly learn from but at whose mercy you are all the time
He can treat you like shit, he can make you do bullshit to pass time and at the end of it you can have learned nothing at all
I can't tell you how many horror stories I've heard from people doing it, a trainee is basically lower than a subhuman


Fuck this
Trump is being retarded here

So your problem isn't apprenticeships but 3rd world savages.

...

how about you Blow It Out Your Ass

gee what a surprise the guy who had a show called The Apprentice would be fond of apprentice programs.....really makes you think.
Mongoloid. Sage.

Lehrjahre sind keine Herrenjahre Kleiner

Irgendwann bist du auch Meister und hast deinen eigenen kleinen Dobby zum Brötchen schmieren und Kaffee holen.

shoutout to the good ol days

It may seem that way, but haven't you ever seen the Karate Kid? wax on, wax off

That initial hazing is to filter out the negative/violent/arrogant personalities, btw. It also breaks people down and builds them back up so they can go from planning mode to get-shit-done mode at the flip of a switch.

>stupid people who can't cut it in college
I know machinists who make over $100k a year. How's that barista job holding up?

Hes someone who didnt finish his apprenticeship or didnt have a decent company or boss.
My boss could be a giant asshole and he was very strict but he taught me valuable skills and i was and are thankful for that.
Of course he made me do stupid shit, thats what apprentices are there for. get me coffee, do this paper work etc

>itt debt slaves mad they fell for the college meme

>hurrr it's broken
My company offers an apprenticeship and my graduating class struggled in math. This new round has a stronger emphasis and support on math. Problem solved. Jesus christ you socialist fucks have no ethic or problem solving skills. In America we get shit done.

>Our system is literally broken with many apprentices lacking in basic math and language skills.
Thats cause of Shitskins and our language demanding a higher iq than speaking english

> germany
> in a mess
thats not true, stop acting liek a nigger fagot

Yhea right.
When does someone who works for corporae america get sued because they fucked up.
There is only so much space for over educated useless people.
And unless youre in stem or accounting, most trades require a higher skillset than ccollege educated office drones.

>It is one of the reasons why we are in the mess we are right now.
We could have fixed that mess. What we cant fix is 2 Million Muslims per year

We need something like that. There are no standards to hold anyone to in IT. I hear stories all the time of people making it up as they go along

If you want to get in a higher position in a factory it's always good to know some math retard.

You eurocucks are so helpless
>MUH GUBMINT FIX MUH PROBLEMS

>It's a horror for every young person entering it
Thats cause you cant watch your smartphone 24/7 like fucking subhumans these Kids are to get somewhere in life

>Will it get lost in translation?

Trump will make it better.

>with many apprentices lacking in basic math and language skills
that's not the apprenticeship system's fault.

There's this show called The Apprentice.

Those fake TIME covers were corporate SWAG given out in the late 90s to TIME advertisers. General Motors gave one to my father with my father on the cover. He owned a GM car dealership. It was fun, unsolicited swag. Try to get out.

>Our system is literally broken with many apprentices lacking in basic math and language skills.
That is not the fault of the apprenticeship system, but the fault of the school systems. You shouldn't have to teach them much math or basic how to write a letter shit after they went to school for 9-10 years nor basic english.
Almost 90% of apprenticeship jobs can be done on a high level with math knowing the rule of three, basic geometry and ok tier language skills.

Interested to know why user.

>Finally
Why did they phrase it like that? When has he ever implied he hates everything German? Pretty sure the only German thing he disliked besides migration was their car companys' trade deals, which were very bad deals. They were killing us!

>Because trades and apprenticeships are for the stupid people who can't cut it at college.
>DUDE EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO COLLEGE NO MATTER HOW STUPID THEY ARE
>DUDE SOME PEOPLE ARE TOO STUPID FOR COLLEGE
wow make up your mind democrites

>But the German system is really, really bad.

Actually its not. Berufsschule gives theoritical lessons and your company trains you in practical skills. You can blame the system for Ahmed and Murat not knowing how to read/write and do math.

The only thing i don't agree with that getting your "Meister" is pretty expensive. This limits Meisters to inheritors of companys or richfags. Some trades e.g. Barber(Friseuse) arent that lucrative to afford the Meister-education.

he doesnt know what hes talking about. One of the biggest reasons why german trained workers are so in demand all over the world are systems like this.
Dont listen to the failure dude. Hes posting from his state funded iphone in front of the job centre most likely.

Dont listen to him. He is retarded.

The whole daughter marring a Jew thing is nothing to freak out over. Its like a king that marries one of his daughters to an enemy to force a peace or seal a deal.

Your language will be dead in a few years, subhuman kraut. Better start learning arabic

This sounds like a magnet for niggers who need space to destroy

pretty much this. I'm a machinist with only a HS diploma clearing 50k after taxes. I know machinists with way more experience clearing 100k. if you have a mechanical engineering degree you can get a machining job right out the gate clearing 80-100K.

>Its like a king that marries one of his daughters to an enemy to force a peace or seal a deal.
25D-chess my ass, moron. WE are (((Trump's))) enemies - not his cabinet, not his daughter, not his degenerate son in law, not his daughter's "beautiful Jewish baby". We.

America used to have Apprenticeships, but they were shut down by your Union Mafia because it allowed tradesmen to increase the amount of people skilled in particular trades, which reduced the wages of unionized tradesmen.

Union mafias in Australia are currently doing the same thing in Australia. Our best medical school is refusing to train doctors because it would reduce their fucking wages for gods sake. Unions were a mistake.

There have been apprenticeships ever since the first tool was invented.

>Our system is literally broken with many apprentices lacking in basic math and language skills
Sounds perfect for the average American then

we fix broken shit and kick the shit out of the peoples who break stuff member those 2 times. plus we are not a nation of 80 IQ refugees who understand 2 things fucking and eating. just cause ya'lls shit is fucked up don't mean ours will be, so fuck off.

You and OP have no clue how the system works. The German system FORCES you to proof your skills in a nation wide standardized schooling system to even begin working in a certain job. This assures that 8/10 of the craftsmen arent spastics who don't have a clue about what they are doing.

So how are the standards of this test?
Extra easy for arabs, africans and other nu-germans?

>apprentices lacking in basic math and language skills
Just like niggers.

>Extra easy for arabs, africans and other nu-germans?

So easy none of them even get there to begin with since none of them try to get a job, and those that do don't last the first year of apprenticeship.

It's kind of funny though. We have the same sort of thing. It's called MBO, a sort of American community "college" and they're all fucking morons with some rare exceptions.

I saw some "technicians" install airco units on a roof I happened to look down upon. They bolted the things straight into the roofing all next to each other. Not only does that reduce their cooling efficiency, it's not good for the roof either.
I sat back and enjoyed the show and sure enough, after the first rain a nice big puddle of water was forming on the roof.
Over time this became worse and worse, the bolts were pretty much submerged all the time and it started leaking.
Eventually some other MBO edjucatud cancer mongoloids had to come and fix the roofing.

Truth be told you do have to wing it, the situations and solutions are so varied. Many times you have to figure out what skill/knowledge you need to solve the situation as needed and pick it up, which itself is a skill -- the most important.

But there is a lot of room for improvement. Also it could create more solidarity in the industry to fend off predations like H1B and scummy companies.

An engineer made the decision to put them in that spot. You have no idea how the world works because you sit in a cubicle all day staring out your window pretending to do something.

No engineer would be that retarded.

I am an engineer you fucking idiot :^)

>Why???
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that's why. As bad as you may think Germany's system is, it's much better than the US' "go to college even if you're a 95 IQ mongol who will probably get a trade or vocational job".

Engineers fuck up all the time. All the time. That's why they have insurance.

If that was structurally the best spot on the roof to put them, that was the best spot. Better a puddle than part of the roof falling in. The puddling effect is because commercial roofs are layers of "fabric" and "tar", of course any weight makes an indentation, especially under a hot sun.

What most likely happened is another contractor was supposed to go in after the units were installed and do apply another layer of roofing to both cover the screws and elevate that spot. But some office drone or project manager must've dropped the ball, probably because they sit in the cubicle all day staring out the window pretending to be doing something.

Structural?

Prussian education all over again

Holy shit, you're either retarded or were just bad at the job and now you feel the need to complain.

So many fucking idiots in Germany feel the need to study something completely useless because they have no idea where they want to go with their life.
And after 3 years of random bullshit they find themselves getting no job because the marketplace is filled with students without any working experience.

meanwhile you learn alot about your job in the 3 years you're being an apprentice and also get a ton of working experience.

Nowadays you finish 3 years of being an apprentice and get a job immediately if not the same company wants to keep you in their office.

Most US community colleges are a scam. I do not know in which fields "students" accumulate the most debt. I can take a guess though.
They should not call them universities or give out degrees because it's an absolute misrepresentation of what they're accomplishing. They should be fair about job prospects. Useless studies should be weeded out. Unfortunately, this requires serious government intervention and reform of institutes who monitor the quality of education. Considering we're talking about the US, good luck with that.
Education should not be in the hands of companies. Right now that's exactly what schools are.

this

having a 3 year training in your profession with schooling intervined is a good thing.
I actually don't know what this "apprentices can't do math" comes from, the math is learned depending on your profession (for example electrical jobs learn physics and the math behind it)

> Trump is literally going to give everyone a possibility for FREE EDUCATION
ABSOLUTE MADMAN

I am an EE and I've worked for a company that is mainly mechanical engineering which is specialized in solar panels, heat pumps, heating, etc.
They delivered equipment to other companies that would install it. However, they would approve designs and plans first because they didn't want their company name plastered over the kind of retarded shit I described in that other post.
And trust me, I have seen some retarded shit.

The problem is the basic school education and not the job training model. Also people that won't think for themselves anymore.

b-b-but it's not for a degree in women's studies so Trump is literally hitler

I did a job training and went to college afterwards. The job training almost taught me more than my college courses because you actually work in the companies and learn how everything runs there.

I would even say that a bunch of blue collar workers are more skilled than most of the college fucks nowadays.

Okay you're not a structural engineer with the plans of the building or any idea of the project so shut the fuck up idiot.

Lehrjahre sind keine Herrenjahre.

And you are?

Also good luck becoming an EE without having to take physics.

>thinks of saying "how does one..."
>types "hard does one..." because of his cute Australian accent
gay

Someone who knows more about how changes to a building are approved than an EE staring out his window who is so insecure he rushes to a false judgement to feel superior.

The US used to have that, until the Jews decided they wanted people who are already "good to go" because they don't want to spend shekels training and wanted goys and third parties (i.e. education funded by tax dollars or self-funded) to handle that. Or have goys working for free via unpaid internships. Bringing over apprenticeship programs screws the Jews as they're not forced to train people to fill the jobs, as how it was back then.

>Because trades and apprenticeships are for the stupid people who can't cut it at college.
Look at this Jew. You know you just want goys to go through your brainwashing program. You know damn well colleges nowadays are not primed to get people ready for the workplace because you're more focused on "diversity courses" and other jewy shit.