Trump - Syria - Seymour Hersh

web.archive.org/web/20170629220906/https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article165905578/Trump-s-Red-Line.html

thoughts on this shit ?

basically, trump knew Assad didn't do the chem attack, bombed anyway ...

fuck off, we support trump over some stupid mudshit dictator

guess your sandnigger got BTFO. fuck syria, MAGA.

Thank you for posting. I love reading Hersh's work but he always find obscure places to publish

lol, this x100

has pol died ?

my pleasure

>has pol died ?

Nah, it's just AIPAC/JIDF. They come to Sup Forums whenever there's tensions around Israel.

>has pol died ?
If by pol you mean a nazi larping shithole with embarrassing edgelord skinheads that like muslims yeah. It has been replaced by the greatness of Trump.

you're not even trying

/sg/ false flagging to make trump supporters look stupid

Based Hersh is based. Long live Assad!

>supporting muslim dictators over trump
found the newfag

Trump hasn't done anything major yet. I doubt he's going to invade, and if he does I will drop him.

You're obviously just baiting but in the unusual case that you're not, read this.

Trump and his administration has already pointed out that Assad has to go even if its a political solution. Not only that he has launched chemical attacks on civilians and threatened to do so very recently until Trump scared him off. Explain to me how Assad is a good stabilizing force without using sourceless lists of nothing.

I trust Trump on this and I'm glad he's backing the SDF and rebel forces in the region rather than that maniac.

>would drop his own president over a fucking sandnigger

holy shit, the level of cuckoldry is unreal here. it's off the charts. wish we could deport you to live in syria you absolute fucking treasonous retard.

yeah you're just baiting, poor effort 3/10

they're just edgelords that think that supporting an islamic dictator with ties to iran makes them counter culture. Pretty retarded imo

Don't address any of my points and call me bait? That's what I thought faggot.

No arguments.

would you say the same when Obama did the same things that Trump is doing? would you stand with Obama or Hillary?

Nah he's got a few good points. If Assad was this great person then Trump would work with him. In reality Assad is just another sand nigger playing god dictator over a bunch of helpless peasants.

obama was a pussy and let assad run all roughshod over his red line. he made america look like weak cucks on the world stage.

trump came in office, assad tried to fuck with him and he instantly got BTFOed. trump showed the world he meant business.

as for syria, no one gives a shit about it other than some hardcore /sg/ autistic edgelords. it's going to be a shithole either with assad or without. might as well be a pro-american shithole while we're at it.

Trump should annex Syria and just hang Assad himself. Fuck that pissant

according to hersh, this is bs

anyone actually bothered to read the article ?

>literally who
I'll side with trump on this one

You're regurgitating CNN talking points, if you actually believe this you haven't even been on Sup Forums for a few years.
>Trump and his administration has already pointed out that Assad has to go
Why the fuck would you trust a US president?

>Not only that he has launched chemical attacks on civilians
Chemical weapons are more expensive, less accurate, less effective, and they open up opportunities for the UN and NATO to interfere as chemical weapons are illegal. There is absolutely zero reason for Assad to use chemical weapons against his own people, meanwhile the rebels have every reason to use them in Assad's territory and blame it on him. In 2013, Obama/Hillary/Kerry tried to invade Syria on the pretense of "muh chemical weapons" in a situation just as outlandish and ridiculous. Weeks after they failed to invade due to widespread opposition to the war worldwide, the UN probe investigating confirmed that it was the Syrian rebels who committed the attack, not Assad. The MSM, GOP, and DNC went silent.

>threatened to do so very recently
The source is Israel. As good a source as a hobo on the street corner.

>Explain to me how Assad is a good stabilizing force
He's a moderate who banned Shariah law and protects the Christian (7%) and Alawite (11%) minorities from the extremists. Without Assad, radical Sunnis take power. You know, the radical Muslims you claim to oppose. The prime rebel groups are ISIS (radical), Ahrar al-Sham (radical), and Tahrir al-Sham (radical). Those are your options. Kill Assad = radicals control Syria and genocide the minorities. There is no moderate opposition to Assad.

>might as well be a pro-american shithole while we're at it.
so ISIS control? Do you support the wars of Obama, Hillary, and Bush that put pro-American terrorists in charge too?

hersh is a leftist edgelord who has been shitting on US soldiers since the vietnam war and before. /sg/ cucks are so pathetic they'll get in bed with hardcore leftists just to undermine america. fucking faggots.

>as for syria, no one gives a shit about it other than some hardcore /sg/ autistic edgelords
You weren't here before the election then. Support for Assad and opposition to globalism is the most unifying ideal of Sup Forums. It's TD that doesn't care.

>obama was a pussy and let assad run all roughshod over his red line
Obama attempted a full Iraq-scale invasion. Not to mention the fact that Obama flattened Libya and killed tens of thousands of people. He was no different from Trump in foreign policy.

The US has not fought a justified war in over 100 years. I side with anyone anti-war, regardless if they're a nazi or a hippie.

>HURR DURR IT'S EITHER ISIS OR ASSAD.

are you literally this retarded? kurds still exist, rebels still exist, we are working with both of those right now. as it is, your piece of shit sandnigger daddy funded al-qaeda in iraq to kill US soldiers so can you please explain that you faggot? why would glorious and based assad work hand-in-hand with iran to kill our men in iraq?

jesus christ, can't believe you are an american (if you're not some abdul posting under our flag). it's like dealing with a cuck that has extreme stockholm syndrome.

>Why the fuck would you trust a US president?
Because I voted for him and I put my trust in him to carry out his platform. That's the point of electing a president, to trust him to do the right thing
>There is absolutely zero reason for Assad to use chemical weapons against his own people
Brutal despots make stupid decisions ALL the time throughout history. You're treating him like a sane rational person when he clearly isn't.
>The source is Israel. As good a source as a hobo on the street corner.
They're our fucking allies, they're a hell of a lot more trustworthy than a pawn of Iran.
>protects the Christian
By running a dictatorship into the ground and starting a civil war and getting many of them killed in a pointless war. Wow such protection!
>The prime rebel groups are ISIS (radical), Ahrar al-Sham (radical), and Tahrir al-Sham (radical).
Funny you leave out the moderate and united SDF PKK and YPG groups that only want stability and liberty. They should be leading the country.

Thanks for actually seriously responding but you're clearly misguided by memes.

people like him are exactly why people join ISIS, they get deluded to the point of no return where they glamourize and glorify islamic dictatorships and hate their own country which is only trying to promote freedom and liberty through the world

>rebels still exist
As I said, the most powerful rebel groups are radical Islamists. The moderate rebels would NOT be the ones in power if the rebels won. There are countless pissant rebel groups killing eachother and destroying their own country (actually a lot of them aren't even Syrian), they don't have a chance of victory let alone stability.

>why would glorious and based assad work hand-in-hand with iran to kill our men in iraq?
Because we shouldn't have been in Iraq. That was a globalist Hillary-tier war. Blame Bush&Hillary&friends, not Assad.

>Because I voted for him and I put my trust in him to carry out his platform
That would excuse flipflopping. You should heavily scrutinize every politician and never allow them to lie and spit on you in betrayal.

>SDF PKK and YPG
They aren't Syrian, they're Kurdish. That would be imperialism.

>By running a dictatorship into the ground and starting a civil war
Radical Islamists who hate secularism and their foreign-imported allies backed by the CIA and Israel started the civil war. Assad worsened it by killing protestors.

>They're our fucking allies
Why did they blow up the USS Liberty? Israel has fucked the stability of the Middle East, it shouldn't have ever been created. All of the problems in the Middle East can be traced to Israel. They even had an official say that they don't want ISIS to be defeated.

And what the fuck has Iran ever done to us? We fucked them by overthrowing Mosadegh and they've been trying to defend themselves from us ever since. Iran has nothing to do with the American people, it's globalist politicians trying to invade and destroy a prosperous nation.

>and hate their own country which is only trying to promote freedom and liberty through the world
You're sounding like bait or reddit again. The US has destroyed freedom and liberty and spread radical Islam in its recent wars, they haven't done shit for liberty.

These replies
Jesus christ
This is why america is doomed
Half of you guys never even read the article
Trump is not some god emperor, hes a man. Read the fuckng article instead of acting like jingoistic caricatures. You sound like ZOGlings

>They aren't Syrian
It's the SYRIAN democratic forces. They're made up of many groups of people for the soul purpose of upholding liberty and democracy. They're a great choice to replace Assad.
>Assad worsened it by killing protestors.
Assad caused it, if he cared about his country he would have stepped down and allowed free and fair elections. He's bitterly clinging to power and someone needs to kick him off the ledge before more people die.
>Why did they blow up the USS Liberty
Friendly fire accidents happen ALL the time, they happened to be the middle of a war. Stop making things out to more than they really are to defend a dictator and slander faithful allies.
>All of the problems in the Middle East can be traced to Israel
oh come on you don't ACTUALLY believe this...

>You sound like ZOGlings
That's because they are, likely fresh from plebbit or trumpgen. Literally not redpilled at all beyond reciting memes.

>da joos
TRS stormfag spotted

Go back

>They're a great choice to replace Assad
t. MSNBC

Take off that meme flag

the only other radical islamists are HTS/al-qaeda who are hated by pretty much all the other rebels. anyway, they came close to forming a government already but al-qaeda fucked it up because they dont want the other rebels to unite against them. once isis and assad are gone we can deal with al-qaeda too.

as for iraq, dont care. he got american troops killed, he's an enemy of america. doesnt matter what his bullshit justification is

>allowed free and fair elections.
The population is too radical. A significant portion of Sunnis support Shariah law and the oppression of other sects and faiths.

>slander faithful allies.
What has Israel done for us, other than get us entangled in wars that killed millions of innocents along with tens of thousands of our troops to utterly destabilize the Middle East and allow terrorism and radical Islam to fluorish? We have gained NOTHING from our alliance with Israel or our wars in the Middle East. I see no fucking reason to continue relations with Israel. We spent trillions of dollars defending them for nothing in return and the Middle East has gotten WORSE.

>All of the problems in the Middle East can be traced to Israel
Well, you also have colonialism, radical Islam, and old CIA ops like the overthrow of Mosadegh, but Israel is deeply rooted in the majority of issues, just not the sole dominating factor.

>wahh i wanna judge people for their flag instead of their argument!
Sup Forums was better before country flags

>not an argument
I'll keep my flag, thanks.

you should have dropped him already senpai

USA is going to invade syria along with giving material support to help israel take out hezbollah and gaza

You're so cringeworthy and obvious. Nazi larping shills OUT OUT OUT

That's because Trump's a dipshit

>there's anything wrong with being a NatSoc
How Jewish-influenced are you? Or just a retarded cuckservative perhaps?

>once isis and assad are gone we can deal with al-qaeda too.
The neoconservative mindset. You want to fight a perpetual war that will take decades and trillions of OUR tax dollars to kill millions of innocents in a feeble effort to establish "democracy" in a country that doesn't want you there. Fuck that.

>he got american troops killed
Bush got them killed. Don't blame people for defending themselves when you attack them. Assad was defending the Middle East from globalism. If you don't want the troops to die, don't fucking send them out to die for Israel. Those troops didn't deserve to die and the war shouldn't have been fought.

Stop memeing everyone knows not every Jew is evil. There are plenty of good ones within the trump admin.

>The population is too radical. A significant portion of Sunnis support Shariah law and the oppression of other sects and faiths.
so do shias. they'd prefer to genocide jews and attack israel too. and how the fuck is that our problem? as long as they're pro-american and answer to us.

i bet you're a stormfag who hates the idea of having any minorities in america, so why are you bitching about minority rights in syria then crying about them in america? hypocrisy much?

as for israel, it pisses off every leftist, sandnigger and stormfag like you within a 10000 mile radius. that alone makes it worthwhile.

>all this cancer against assad
Didn't knew Sup Forums supported globalists all of a sudden
Whao what's next, that Duterte should be kamikazed right dumbfuck american

Trump is not a globalist nice try shill

>as for israel, it pisses off every leftist, sandnigger and stormfag like you within a 10000 mile radius. that alone makes it worthwhile.
So you want American troops to die because it pisses off liberals? You don't care about the troops, you're anti-American to the core.

see pic

so what, should we stop intervening against isis too faggot? if you fuck with america, america's going to fuck with you. that's what isis, al-qaeda, assad and iran are learning the hard way now.

and you are one massive cuck justifying the deaths of american soldiers. you sound like a total leftist rat.

>not every Jew is evil
Correct. Just an alarmingly high amount of them. And almost all put their ethno-religious club above anything else. To consider them allies is to allow them to fool you.
>plenty of good ones within the trump admin
Wrong as they're neocons who shill incessantly for Israel.

america is wrong about almost everything

So how much do you get paid per post?

and this too

>if you fuck with america, america's going to fuck with you.
America started it. You're walking up to someone, punching them, and when they punch you back you claim they started the fight. They didn't do shit to us before we started messing with their countries and affairs.

>and you are one massive cuck justifying the deaths of american soldiers
You're the one saying we should send thousands of our troops out to die for Israel. I don't want our troops to die which is why I oppose Obama's wars.

didnt say anything about them dying faggot. how many american soldiers have been killed fighting isis? almost no one. all we need to do is drop a few bombs on assad and cuck his airforce, then we can let our proxies do the rest of the work.

t. irrelevant cuck country jelly of america's military might

>so why are you bitching about minority rights in syria then crying about them in america? hypocrisy much?
This is a false equivalency and a strawman!. Syria's struggles are religious, not racial. Not all minorities are the same or even function the same, retard.
>as for israel, it pisses off every leftist, sandnigger and stormfag like you within a 10000 mile radius. that alone makes it worthwhile.
You have the reasoning and logic of a woman, child or nigger.

>basically, trump knew Assad didn't do the chem attack, bombed anyway

All 17 intelligence agencies signed off on the attack, desu

Funny, was just about to ask you the same. Unfortunately, there's no organisation willing to fund legitimate NatSoc shitposting, so when I engage with retards like you, it's totally pro bono.

>how many american soldiers have been killed fighting isis? almost no one
And why is it worth letting a single American die? Why is it worth billions and trillions of our tax dollars? Why the fuck should we be involved?

Go shill for Obama and Hillary some more.

im sure isis and assad appreciate your anti-interventionism. please join the anti-war cuck crowd over at r/socialism.

don't you stormfaggots want to expel jews? aren't they a religious minority? quiet faggot. fuck off to syria or iran if you like your muslim cock so much.

raging at a larping kike shill is what they want

>isis appreciate your anti-interventionism
ISIS would not exist without American interventionism. ISIS formed in the power vacuum left behind when Bush and Obama turned the Middle East into a ruin.

and the majority of Sup Forums is anti-war, it's shills and redditors that support Hillary/Obama/Bush

you don't fit in here

ignore the shills bro, they only want to trash trump with shitty memes. Shareblue is evolving

Why did you do this post? I was convinced you were a redditor and legitimately angry at you, now you made it clear you were joking the whole time. You broke the veil.

>don't you stormfaggots want to expel jews?
Yes. They are not merely a religious group like baptists, Mennonites, or even Buddhists though. They seek to insert their tendrils into places of power. No society should allow this nation within a nation to subvert them. It is because they operate as a racial minority, and as an especially devious and subversive racial minority, that they cannot be allowed to continue in this manner.

How often he publish his works? This article is pretty good writen and I want to read more of his works.

You're just a bait-poster or an agitator from leftypol and people shouldnt be feeding you. You've become increasingly irrational as the thread has gone on. I'm done with you.

you are such a faggot with no idea of history

we are about to kill them off in iraq in 2007-2008 when the troop surge happened. they were reduced to a handful of holdings. then obama was elected and he withdrew our troops prematurely because of ANTI-WAR KEKS LIKE YOU.

if we had spent the time to finish them off, they wouldnt have come back to bite us in the ass later. the same goes for fucking assad now.

can you anti-interventionist cucks please stfu, your kind was why communists won in vietnam and why iran and al-qaeda won in our latest conflicts.

i am legit convinced there is a massive shilling effort going on by leftists to discredit trump. supporting america's enemies and apologizing for foreign dictators is a favorite past-time among cucks, and it seems stormfags too.

>That autistic retard who keeps posting anti-semitism ITT
You do realize that Sup Forums believes Israel is based, right? It's American jew liberals we have a problem with.

>You're just a bait-poster or an agitator from leftypol
you know that globalists are a tiny minority on Sup Forums, right? Hell, even leftypol opposes globalist foreign policy. Foreign policy is what unites Sup Forums.

>i am legit convinced there is a massive shilling effort going on by leftists to discredit trump. supporting america's enemies and apologizing for foreign dictators is a favorite past-time among cucks, and it seems stormfags too.
oh its so obvious too, its like they think we would question our loyalty to trump just because he bombs some shitskins, keep fighting the good fight m8

Sup Forums believes Israel is based, right
Wrong!
*Israel's enemies

>iran
Iran only became radical because the US overthrew Mosadegh. Who you probably have never heard of - pic related.

>al-qaeda
al-Qaeda only became powerful because the US overthrew Hussein and created a power vacuum for terrorism to grow in.

>then obama was elected and he withdrew our troops prematurely because of ANTI-WAR KEKS LIKE YOU
Are you insinuating that Obama is anti-war? I'm not going to spoonfeed you, tell me what happened in Libya. Tell me what happened in Libya and say with a straight face that Obama isn't a bloodthirsty warmonger just like Bush. Don't reply without telling me what happened in Libya because you seem like a clueless Obamatard who has no idea what happened.

>if we had spent the time to finish them off
You created MORE terrorists in the process. Fucking hundreds of thousands of innocents died in the occupation and the infrastructure was utterly destroyed. Do you think the people were grateful? No, you were fucking massacring them. al-Qaeda won because the US helped them out. The US has never opposed terrorism.

>america's enemies
Like Obama, Hillary, and Bush? What the FUCK makes Assad an enemy of America? What makes Iran an enemy of America? They haven't done shit to us. Our politicians are far worse than any foreign "foes".

>its like they think we would question our loyalty to trump just because he bombs some shitskins
It's like they think we would question our loyalty to Trump after he bombed Syria after an anti-war campaign where he criticized Hillary and the GOP because they wanted to bomb Syria*

Lurk more. No one who has been on Sup Forums even for just 3 years would be saying this pro-Hillary garbage.

he's just trolling and you took the bait my plebbitor friend

Oh, shouting death to America daily doesn't make them our enemies?
Read a god damn newspaper you retard.

Why should we care? Are you going to slaughter millions of innocents because they said mean things about you?

Their hatred of America is justified. Look what Obama and Hillary did to the Middle East. Look what Eisenhower did to Iran.

Which one? Washington Post, maybe New York Times? All Jew-controlled. They tell you who your enemies are, and apparently you're dumb enough to believe it.

>all these leftist talking points

fucking knew you were some lefty Sup Forums faggot. either that or stormfags really have allied with leftist tards to piss on trump.

iran became radical after they became a FUCKING ISLAMIC THEOCRACY you absolute retard. it wasnt america. it wasnt "DA EVIL WEST". it was retarded inbred iranian sandniggers who overthrew the shah and then some fucktard ayatollahs swept to power. the same ayatollahs whose cocks you suck today.

as for al-qaeda, they only grew because anti-war cucks like you forced us to fight with our hands tied behind our backs in rooting them out. and al-qaeda wouldn't have been a fucking problem if they weren't getting millions and open supply lines from iran and assad.

obongo was as anti-war as you get for an american president. he sucked withdrew from iraq, he only reluctantly intervened in libya and he refused to intervene in syria. he allowed the muslim brotherhood to overthrow our allies in egypt and start fucking with israel. he sucked iranian cock for a nuclear deal. he allowed iranian terrorists to gain a foothold in yemen. he threw israel under the bus for iranian and muslim brotherhood sandniggers. and yes, thanks to his lack of balls, and anti-interventionist cucks like you, the middle east is fucked.

Hersh is a kook. Nothing else

Well the jews completely destroyed nations like Libya, Irak, and now Syria, but they did it in the name of the US, I can't say I agree with them but I kinda understand

>finances terrorist
>finances protests
>intervenes and destroys all middle eastern countries that don't have a (((controlled))) leader
>I-IT'S NOT US I SWEAR


Also don't feel like an alpha male for being a pro war faggot, you're spending billions of dollars to participate in conflicts you have nothing to do with, and nothing to win, you're literally a cuck fighting for Israel's expansion

>all these leftist talking points
Those are Sup Forums talking points, newfag. Were you here in 2013?

>it was retarded inbred iranian sandniggers who overthrew the shah
AND WHY WAS THE SHAH IN POWER IN THE FIRST PLACE? America fucking put him there after overthrowing the secular democracy of Mosadegh who nationalized Iran's oil. The Iranian revolution was the consequence of American intervention radicalizing people.

>as for al-qaeda, they only grew because anti-war cucks like you forced us to fight with our hands tied behind our backs
We wouldn't have to fight them if they weren't powerful in the first place. Saddam Hussein was killing them and preventing terrorism from growing. When Hussein died, there was no longer a competent force in Iraq to kill terrorists, allowing al-Qaeda to grow. American intervention built al-Qaeda.

>he only reluctantly intervened in libya
Gaddafi was anally raped with a bayonet and then clubbed to death. The infrastructure of Libya was turned to rubble. Tens of thousands of innocents died. Now Libya is STILL in civil war with 3 factions holding land, and ISIS has a foothold in what was once a stable country.

Obama and Hillary are bloodthirsty warmongers.

>he refused to intervene in syria
He attempted an Iraq-scale invasion which failed because 70%+ of the military didn't want to go in there and die. You're the one who wanted our troops to die in Syria.

Fuck off back to CNN or FOX or whatever hole you crawled out of, you anti-American globalist scum. I don't want any more American troops or foreign civilians to die. I don't want my tax dollars spent on sending our troops out to die. I hope you fuckers get lynched by our troops for trying to get them killed.

god bless you user, all these r/the_donald niggers are annoying as fuck senpai

This. Thank you user.
Sup Forums is truth.

apart from a minority of /sg/ edgelords and stormfags Sup Forums was pro-killing sandniggers, and mocked leftists weeping for "da poor brown keeeyids".

the shah was the monarch of iran you absolute moron. he was there by birthright. anyway fuck mosadegh, you mess with our oil supply, you get CIAed. learn the lesson faggot. im not going to ride a bicycle to work like a cuck because of anti-war fags like you.

wrong faggot, we would have to fight them regardless because al-qaeda insists on picking a fight with our allies in saudi arabia and israel, much like iran and assad. by defeating them on the battlefield we help erase them as a movement, one body at a time.

lol yeah, i saw the video. fuck that sandnigger, decades of funding terrorists in europe and he cries when he gets a taste of his medicine. payback, bitch. also isis got BTFOed in libya over a year ago thanks to our intervention, and libya is a lot more peaceful than syria.

obama didnt attempt shit lol. he was going to do "limited missile strikes on chemical stockpiles only" then pussied out of even that. he never wanted full-scale intervention or to topple assad directly.

as for the military, im joining this fall you fucking faggot. im not a leftist pussy scared of fighting like you. my brothers have already served and trust me, they wouldnt bat an eye if they were killing hajis in iraq or if they were killing hajis in syria. all the same shit to them. now stfu you faggot and stop dishonoring our country with your pathetic anti-war leftist cuckoldry.

>im joining this fall you fucking faggot
I hope you get killed.

lol who's the faggot who wants dead soldiers now? pathetic fucking leftist cuck. if i ever see a stormfag anti-war demonstration, just know i'll have my finger on the trigger you fucking faggot.

>our allies in saudi arabia and israel


summerfag confirmed, you need to lurk for at least two years before posting anything my dude

You're the one who wants to spend trillions of our tax dollars and tens of thousands of our soldiers to die fighting wars for Israel and Saudi Arabia that won't benefit the US. If you've actually been on Sup Forums for more than a few weeks and you still follow these CNN talking points, you're hopeless. I've never seen someone this bluepilled insist on continuing a discussion.

You are not pro-American, you are not "America First". You put Israel's interests ahead of the interests of our people. You're a stain upon the US military and the US as a whole.

I didn't know this was a cringe thread, wow.


You're falling for their tricks, the same warmongers that tell you that you need to go to war, then make you take the refugees they create , and even if trump doesn't take refugees you're sending millions of sand niggers to europe you neocon nigger.


Show me proof of Assad attempting to attack Israel, in fact post proof of ISIS trying to attak Israel, that's right.


Btw Obongo completly destroyed Libya you retarded idiot

why would Sup Forums be pro sandnigger killing?

Sup Forums is a board of peace didnt you know that you fucking ape

wait did you just post a terrorist threat? sending a tip to the FBI bucko

you're right, no point in talking to a piece of human shit that calls for american soldiers to die for having opposing opinions to him. just know if we ever met id beat you to an inch of your life you fucking leftist cocksucker. im out

Please get the fuck off our board you piece of shit neo con!!!!

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