Okay Sup Forums, convince me, a full-blown Marxist, that "cultural Marxism" is a real thing, and that the Frankfurt School was behind it. I have studied the works of Adorno, Marcuse, Benjamin, and other intellectuals affiliated with the institute and have found very little of theirs which comes close to promoting the identity politics of today. So please, convince me, and do so in a more elaborate way than merely pointing to the "Jewish" element.
You post this thread all the time, but you realized your previous style was just getting you shit. Now you're trying a different tactic. Don't fall for it, lads
Jacob King
Answer me. What makes you believe "cultural Marxism" is real, or that the Franks were specifically plotting to infiltrate western culture?
You're not gonna get an answer, fampai. Cultural Marxism is a meaningless meme that nobody on Sup Forums can explain if their fucking life depended on it. It's something they say because other apes said it to them.
Samuel Morgan
Sup Forums comes off to me as a bunch of whiny kids who fall into hysterics as much as the "SJWs" whom they hate.
Tyler Adams
>Resist attempts to educate yourself! Stay in the dark! Remain a laughingstock! Cuckoldry is great!
what you sound like
James Hernandez
Cry more. It sounds real intelligent.
Thomas Bennett
Funny thing is, Sup Forums might like Adorno. Richard Spencer has praised him, after all.
Bentley Gutierrez
>silence when someone who might be educated on this subject posts wtf i hate infowarriors now
Asher Richardson
Spot on. Unironic anti-SJW SJWs
Ethan Baker
I'm listening to this. It's all very interseting so far.
It's way way beyond what Sup Forums would ever get. They wouldn't get a word of since no one here knows philosophy or theology.
The Jewess in the video makes the point that, considering Sup Forums's antisemitism and hatred of the Frankfurt School, and proclamation that they "know" why Judaism is "evil", for them not to bring up antinomian Judaism as the alleged "root" of Frankfurt School thought proves how ignorant they really are.
For instance, Gershom Scholem, the theologian who wrote books on kabbalah and the Sabbatian heresy, shared a lot of his works with Benjamin and there is little doubt Benjamin used this theology as the backbone of his critical theory.
John Mitchell
>yes goys, the only way we're gonna bring about communism is by infiltrating and subverting media with commie propaganda.
Jackson Howard
Seen it. Thorium proves nothing.
Charles Gutierrez
So, who in the Frankfurt School had this idea?
Also, if you're going to say Gramsci, realize Gramsci wasn't a member of the Frankfurt School, and none of his works were published until after WWII.
Grayson Perez
You are not Marxist. That much I can see by reading your writing.
Matthew Campbell
Sure, goy. How is cultural marxism NOT the fingerprint personification of marxism in the economical sense?
Tyler Hill
What makes you think so?
Jose Morris
If you're talking about modern identity politics, the type found in academia and on tumblr, then you should be blaming post-structuralism, not Marxism.
Sebastian Morgan
"Whites don't have culture". Literally cultural marxism.
Ethan Phillips
What the fuck does a ridiculous statement like that have to do with Marxism or the Frankfurt School?
Christopher Sullivan
>whites don't have culture >all cultures are equal >multiculturalism is superior
Grayson Torres
Again, what do these statements have to do with Marxism?
Logan Baker
Is multiculturalism not a marxist value? Are all people not equal?
Kevin Wilson
Franz Boas, a literal german jew marxist, created cultural relativism.
Andrew Hughes
Yup, and Jacques Derrida, Judith Butler were jews, Jean Baudrillard was an actual marxist, and Michel Foucault was a gay. All post-structuralist writers.
So what's the big fucking difference
Michael Anderson
not gunna fall asleep 30 mins before the pesident was announced like last time
gunna lisen to the hwole thing this time
would of could of but did we did? yes
fucking got it right in we did for that was who the thing was for, i knew it, but we knew it was not to be it was for the sundry i wouldnt want to tell her right, megyn why did she did this we might never know, but for one thing wedid know msnbc did they what could ever have been done, for that is the reason sleeping in themyriad of dreams the boundary between wake and lies for the scythe dips its blade
into the dreams of the sewer rat which scuttles the reason for which they did i wouldnt have could known for the possibility we could never see the reason for why that was had to be it didnt have to be but it did.
could for the reason dogs are attractive to be because of the size of the shaft but the fisher knows no darkness in his heart the pole it leads him to the sleep
Tyler Adams
Multiculturalism has nothing to do with Marxism. We Marxists believe in proletarian internationalism.
Nathan Gonzalez
>Yup, and Jacques Derrida, Judith Butler were jews, How did Judaism influence them? Explain.
>Jean Baudrillard was an actual marxist, He gave up on orthodox Marxism though.
Landon Rivera
Post structuralism's core component is critical theory
Colton Barnes
>proletarian internationalism >global slavery Good job Kike.
Wyatt Parker
Sure you do, and how is ANY government going to achieve that ideological goal? Give out free healthcare and chicken tendies?
The whole point is that, although Marx and friends didn't "believe" in gays getting married, their ideology creates a thought process that has a product which is what you see today
Bentley Perez
It's actually Heidegger.
Carson Rivera
Internationalism and multiculturalism the same thing.
"People are ultimately divided more by class than by nationality." is a major tenet of marxism
Jacob Nelson
Did you miss the part where i said component as opposed to philosophical influence you illiterate
Carson Davis
kek
anyway the term 'cultural Marxism' is thrown around so much that even if it had any sort of concrete definition its been lost by now
Nicholas Perry
You implied PoMo was in some ways a "spinoff" of the Franks' works.
Christian Hernandez
Sup Forums knows nothing of Judaism, Christianity, or philosophy.
Everything for them is viewed in a simple lens of black hat vs white hat. And being a collection of losers they associate being victims with the white hat.
So the Jews are the evil oppressors that keep them from getting a girlfriend or from any good videos from getting released.
Jace Wilson
They were literally born jewish. How does being born into a cult-like, religion based mindset NOT influence their worldview? Are you that dense?
>He gave up on orthodox Marxism though. Point is he is/was still a Marxist. You said Post-structuralism was to blame. Post-structuralist writers are Marxist/Jews.
You probably make these threads every damn night and get beat down the same way every damn night.
Go away.
Sage if u take the bait
Easton Miller
It's also hilarious how they blame the Talmud for "Jewish infiltration" yet have no idea as to what the Talmud actually says, or that it's not even a book but a compilation of debates.
Xavier Martinez
This and Fucking BTFO
Nicholas Foster
Its true though, literally anything is cultural marxism, on Sup Forums in particular
Isaac Taylor
Commie What?
Logan Taylor
No, I want you to explain which aspects of Judaism had an influence on their thought.
Lucas Rodriguez
>anything bad is cultural marxism true. now GTFO.
John Clark
>marxist reading comprehension I never said anything about post modernism you fucking imbecile i was talking about post structuralism which is not the same thing .Heidegger was an existentialist and was an influence on post structuralist thinkers but critical theory formed and the bed rock of post structuralist thought
Joshua Lewis
>leftypol tries to pretend that they aren't destroying the West again for the 84927493393rd thread
You know that you are wasting your time by coming here with your lies, right?
Christopher Sanders
I've seen that video as well.
Again, he barely explains what the Franks actually thought or said. He claims Marcuse was a free love guru despite the fact that Marcuse himself later denounced the hippies as capitalist consumers. He blames Adorno for identity politics even though Adorno hated idpol and was opposed by the feminists of his own uni. He also doesn't mention Benjamin, who, despite his early death, was by far the most influential member of the Franks and the only one to use specifically Jewish concepts in his works.
Nathan Wright
Trolling people to kill themselves. Trolling people to give up life, tiny bits at a time.
Asher James
Has /leftypol/ replaced reddit as the Sup Forums bogeyman now?
Dylan Wright
It's Marxism applied to society rather than economy. Economic Marxism has the bourgeoisie as the oppressors and the proletariat as the oppressed. Cultural Marxism has women/gays/trans/coloreds/etc. as the oppressed and straight cis Christian white men as the oppressors. Both advocate for a revolution to strip away power from the opressors. Over time, the Frankfurt school spread its influence among colleges and universities and journalism/movies, implanting the ideas into impressionable kids in the 60s and it mutated into the world spanning monstrosity it is today.
Gavin Howard
I love how even when they come here with their post modernist newspeak they get BTFO and its funny how these threads only happen late at night
Levi Richardson
They don't have to pretend. The entire poinit of marxism is to turn the entire world into a deracinated shopping mall for the jew to rule over.
Chase Green
To be fair you guys are slightly smarter than reddit... slighty so wear it as badge of honor.
Lucas Morgan
The Bogeyman is .
Carson Hill
What the fuck does this have to do with Judaism or deconstruction?
Jayden Jackson
Why don't kill yourself.
Gavin Green
>Marx concludes, that "the Christians have become Jews"; and, ultimately, it is mankind (both Christians and Jews[14] that needs to emancipate itself from ("practical") Judaism.
Go read a book. I'm not your philosophy teacher. If you can't see the correlation between jews, marxism, and the new bullshit left, you are blind, mam.
Jose Sanchez
rude
Austin Fisher
Jews are literally trolls that troll people into killing themselves while the Jews magically end up with all the money.
heres a redpill for ya commie “Himself a Jew, Marx has around him, in London and France, but especially in Germany, a multitude of more or less clever, intriguing, mobile, speculating Jews, such as Jews are every where: commercial or banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades, with one foot in the bank, the other in the socialist movement, and with their behinds sitting on the German daily press — they have taken possession of all the newspapers — and you can imagine what kind of sickening literature they produce. Now, this entire Jewish world, which forms a single profiteering sect, a people of blooksuckers, a single gluttonnous parasite, closely and intimately united not only across national borders but across all differences of political opinion — this Jewish world today stands for the most part at the disposal of Marx and at the same time at the disposal of Rothschild. I am certain that Rothschild for his part greatly values the merits of Marx, and that Marx for his part feels instinctive attraction and great respect for Rothschild. This may seem strange. What can there be in common between Communism and the large banks? Oh! The Communism of Marx seeks enormous centralization in the state, and where such exists, there must inevitably be a central state bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, which. speculates on the work of the people, will always find a way to prevail ....” mikhail bakunin
Logan Ortiz
Do you understand anything about Judaism, or what the Jews actually believe?
If not, STFU on the link between leftism and Judaism because you obviosuly don't know what you're talking about.
Thomas James
Jews not only created cultural marxism but marx was a kike, lenin the founder of the soviet union was a kike, and lenins chosen successor trotsky was a kike.
Jew NKVD head Yagoda famined 6,000,000+ European Christians in the 1930's. With the help of Jew married Molotov.
Jaxon Johnson
Do you ever tire of this exercise in futility shill?
Robert Rogers
Simple, during the Weimar Republic a large group of Marxists were running around publishing shit on sexology and other stupidity. (See Magnus Hirschfeld) Once the Nazis took over they all left for Western Europe because oddly enough the USSR wasn't a very accommodating place. As a result all of these left wingers infected the soft sciences (primarily sociology) in the US. It is that simple.
Gabriel Bailey
>antinomian Judaism
There have been many threads on Eli Zevi's 1666 cult and the Donmeh. Here's some an old pic and some links i saved from previous threads.
Jews created communism and run/ran it from top to bottom, ratboy. Enjoy your time in France while you can no doubt all of you are getting relocated to the desert very soon.
Logan Wright
>lenin the founder of the soviet union was a kike, Lenin wasn't jewish
Kayden Martin
The Jews trolled Hitler into invading Poland. The Jews trolled the entire modern world into existence. They trolled Israel into existence. They trolled the West into committing suicide.
Jose Davis
>Jews create communism >Jews were and still are the main force behind modern liberalism >LALALA THERE IS NO JEWISH CONNECTION That really hmmm'd my haaaaaa's comrade
Angel Long
*Sabbatai Zevi
Jose Price
>despite the fact that Marcuse himself later denounced the hippies as capitalist consumers. >despite the fact that Marcuse himself later denounced the hippies >later denounced the hippies >Later Seems like a reoccurring theme with Communists.
So explain: how does Judaism lead to Jews adopting communism?
>Eli Zevi Sabbatai Zevi
Gavin Wood
Yeah honestly reading about the Weimar time and how modern history brushes over it is fucking disgusting. Absolutely fucking horrifying. It is the peak of Jewish and communist perfidy at the cost of an innocent population.
Mason Sullivan
Cultural Marxism is just satanism for academics
Jeremiah Evans
LURK MOAR NORMIE
>Lenin's father, Ilya Nikolayevich Ulyanov, was from a family of serfs; his ethnic origins remain unclear, with suggestions being made that he was Russian, Chuvash, Mordvin, or Kalmyk.[2] Despite this lower-class background he had risen to middle-class status, studying physics and mathematics at Kazan Imperial University before teaching at the Penza Institute for the Nobility.[3] Ilya married Maria Alexandrovna Blank in mid-1863.[4] Well educated and from a relatively prosperous background, she was the daughter of a German–Swedish woman and a Russian Jewish physician who had converted to Christianity
Adrian Nguyen
>That really hmmm'd my haaaaaa's comrade
Brayden Wilson
I don't pretend to understand your gutter religion ratboy, i'm simply stating that you inbreds are responsible for virtually all of the problems in the west and you still need to stand trial for the crimes of Jewish invented/run marxism in the 20th century.
Jayden Flores
>the institute of social research in Frankfurt never existed, they did not immigrate to Columbia University because they weren't majority Jewish in the Third Reich/Western Marxists because all of those things are 'conspiracies' when they arrive at conclusions I dislike >Douglass Kellner doesn't exist, nor has he contributed anything because the field doesn't really exist archive.is/YzkIS Archived version of the Wiki entry before it was selectively edited to use the "everything that I don't read about is a conspiracy and other strawmen" meme. This is about as bad as whining about scientific thought being paramount, yet denying the existence of divergent evolution applied to human cognitive ability. youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y
Aaron Scott
Again, you're not giving me any reason to believe adhering to Judaism leads one to take up communism.
Angel Watson
Our entire existence is a massive ponzi scheme with the Jews at the top. They're literally sitting up there in the 1% making so much money, none of it probably doesn't even exist.
Kevin Reyes
>everything I dislike is a conspiracy >the Overton window doesn't exist because it's in my favour, but does exist when it's against my beliefs >video illustrating the history of the Frankfurt school and their migration from Europe to NA has nothing to do with the teachings of said school >waaa don't use outdated terms to address my special pet minorities >I can discard any point while simultaneously adding my input as if that constitutes a rebuttal I mean, a great start would be disproving the migration, as that would mean nothing of the sort ever occurred. Try: www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/modernism/kovel.htm But discarding the post while putting in a quip=refutation. I guess there is good reason you act as you do. Diverting from the actual discussion and opting to make non-sequiturs masked as actual points is useful when you've been backed into a corner: either everything is a conspiracy laadeedaa and the members of the Frankfurt school were not doubly despised for being Marxists AND Jewish (in the Third Reich, which is what lead to their exodus to Columbia University), or they weren't Jewish and the Frankfurt school never even existed. Remember: arguing for the latter="conspiracy". Historical accuracy=mean conclusion; ergo, it is "discarded".
"Many 20th century Marxian theorists ranging from Georg Lukacs, Antonio Gramsci, Ernst Bloch, Walter Benjamin, and T.W. Adorno to Fredric Jameson and Terry Eagleton employed the Marxian theory to analyze cultural forms in relation to their production, their imbrications with society and history, and their impact and influences on audiences and social life. Traditions of cultural Marxism are thus important to the trajectory of cultural studies and to understanding its various types and forms in the present age." Emphasis on "employed the Marxian theory to analyze cultural forms in relation to their production, their imbrications with society and history, and their impact and influences on audiences and social life".
Jace Williams
The reason I know CM isn't a myth is because the only people who complain about it are themselves believing Marxists.
Parker Morgan
"The economic base of society for Marx and Engels consisted of the forces and relations of production in which culture and ideology are constructed to help secure the dominance of ruling social groups. This influential "base/superstructure" model considers the economy the base, or foundation, of society, and cultural, legal, political, and additional forms of life are conceived as “superstructures" which grow out of and serve to reproduce the economic base."
"In general, for a Marxian approach, cultural forms always emerge in specific historical situations, serving particular socio-economic interests and carrying out important social functions. For Marx and Engels, the cultural ideas of an epoch serve the interests of the ruling class, providing ideologies that legitimate class domination. “Ideology” is a critical term for Marxian analysis that describes how dominant ideas of a given class promote the interests of that class and help cover over oppression, injustices, and negative aspects of a given society. On their analysis, during the feudal period, ideas of piety, honor, valor, and military chivalry were the ruling ideas of the hegemonic aristocratic classes. During the capitalist era, values of individualism, profit, competition, and the market became dominant, articulating the ideology of the new bourgeois class that was consolidating its class power. Ideologies appear natural, they seem to be common sense, and are thus often invisible and elude criticism."
Logan Morgan
"While Marx’s writings abound with literary reference and figures, he never developed sustained models of cultural analysis. Instead, Marx focused his intellectual and political energies on analyzing the capitalist mode of production, current economic developments and political struggles, and vicissitudes of the world market and modern societies now theorized as “globalization” and “modernity.”"
"A generation of Marxists, however, began turning concentrated attention to cultural phenomena in the 1920s. Perry Anderson (1976) interprets the turn from economic and political analysis to cultural theory as a symptom of the defeat of Western Marxism after the crushing of the European revolutionary movements of the 1920s and the rise of fascism. In addition, theorists like Lukacs, Benjamin, and Adorno, who instituted a mode of Marxist cultural analysis, were intellectuals who had deep and abiding interest in cultural phenomena."
"The ultra-Marxist Lukacs of the early 1920s intently developed philosophical and political dimensions of Marxism before returning to cultural analysis later in the 1920s."
Parker Reed
Jews invert everything, and want to make the world in their image (its not its made in Gods image.
Isaac Jones
So explain WHAT about Judaism "creates the problems".
Lucas Phillips
"The work of the Frankfurt School provided what Paul Lazarsfeld (1942), one of the originators of modern communications studies, called a critical approach, which he distinguished from the "administrative research." The positions of Adorno, Lowenthal, and other members of the inner circle of the Institute for Social Research were contested by Walter Benjamin, an idiosyncratic theorist loosely affiliated with the Institute. Benjamin, writing in Paris during the 1930s, discerned progressive aspects in new technologies of cultural production such as photography, film, and radio. In "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction" (1969), Benjamin noted how new mass media were supplanting older forms of culture whereby the mass reproduction of photography, film, recordings, and publications replaced the emphasis on the originality and "aura" of the work of art in an earlier era. Freed from the mystification of high culture, Benjamin believed that media culture could cultivate more critical individuals able to judge and analyze their culture, just as sports fans could dissect and evaluate athletic activities. In addition, processing the rush of images of cinema created, Benjamin believed, subjectivities better able to parry and comprehend the flux and turbulence of experience in industrialized, urbanized societies."
Caleb Perry
>she was the daughter of a German–Swedish woman and a Russian Jewish physician who had converted to Christianity So? Lenin wasn't Jewish. If you go back in anyones family you could find all sorts of things
