NATIONAL CAPITALISM GENERAL: FIRST OF ITS KIND EDITION

Welcome to /ncg/! Here we discuss the virtues of the market while also acknowledging that modern capitalism is degenerate.

>THE TENETS OF NATIONAL CAPITALISM

>The Nation

1. The Nation must be preserved in order to stop globalism and communism.

2. The Nation must observe and if needed protect the free market where and when it can.

3. The Nation must respect and defend the freedom of its citizens.

4. The Nation must always maintain a balanced budget, neither debt nor surplus is acceptable.

5. The Nation must defend its borders from immigration, invasion or open attack.

6. The Nation must defend and define citizenship. The Nation must not allow non citizens to have rights equivalent to citizens. Only through civic service or birthright can one become a Citizen.

7. The Nation must allow all people the right to purchase and carry firearms, with no restrictions.

8. The Nation must not allow citizens to engage in violent crime, theft, terrorism, rape or other infractions of the Non Aggression Principle.

9. The Citizen can be drafted to civil service or military action in time of war.

10. The Citizen can vote for leadership, only the citizen has this right. Government officials and non citizens may not vote.

11 The Citizen may defend themselves, subject to liability if proven to be in the wrong.

12. The Citizen can trade freely for any good or service and the Nation may not interfere with said exchange unless it is a clear and direct threat to the Nation.

13. The Citizen may request a fair trial for accused wrongdoings.

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14. The Citizen may not advocate communism, socialism or non family kin centered lifestyles without recourse.

15. Physical removal of bad actors will be decided upon by the laws and courts of the Nation.

16. The Citizen may have a trial before being removed, a non citizen must be removed on the spot without trial.

17. The market must be allowed to work freely, interpersonal, interstate and internationally.

18. Supply and Demand must always be respected, for the market to function properly.

19. Any industry that can be run privately can and should compete with state enterprise.

20. Regulation of free exchange can only be discussed in accordance with the State, only when a threat to the safety of the Citizens and Nation can be objectively proven, and may only be implemented temporarily.

21. International trade deals may only be allowed if they benefit the Nation, it’s Citizens and the Market.

22. It is the responsibility of both the Citizen and the Nation to protect, defend and observe the Market.

23. The Market is a tool to better the lives of Citizens and the health of the Nation.

24. The means of production must be owned by private Citizens in order to get competition and thus, efficiency from them.

25. Competition in the Market is a virtue, creating new and better methods of production over time.

26. The Nation and Market serve the Citizen, however the Citizen is required to put forth effort to protect and defend the Nation and the Market.

I am hardcore shilling for NatCap. I want to gain traction with this for certain.

Is this system racist?

Is not neo liberalism and globalism a superior capitalistic model?

Thanks

yeah nah, you can't be capitalist and nationalist

either you believe in the free market or you don't

you don't get to pick when you do and when you don't

>A dollar sign instead of a swastika
Please... reconsider. Use a rune that represents prosperity or strength or something. Just not a derpy dollar sign.

isnt this essentially what the states were before all the communist subversion?

the national socialist pick and choose when socialism makes sense and when it doesnt. be autistic elsewhere.

Fellow capitalist here:

I agree with this gentlemans description of capitalism's fixed character.

I would like to add, the nationalistic character of th Chimera ideology you had proffered is contrary to self interest, and profit.

Perhaps, you may like globalism, if you give it a chance.

>nationalism
>capitalism
pick one

I like movement or flow the most out of these, leaf. Still the dollarstika isn’t ideal, and neither are these runes.

>thread was made directly after the /leftypol/ communist general died

Wow it's almost like you /leftypol/ shits are too obvious and should stop.

It's bullshit unless you define what leading religion will be in this state of yours. If you believe that cosmopolitan, enlightenment bullshit of mixing up religions and ignoring them effectively, then you'll end up getting islamized

How is this different from paleoconservatism? I like the effort though.

Christianity and its morals will be applied to day to day life. Other religions must have social stigma placed against them, similarly to what Japan does to Muslims; hard laws against it only create enemies of the state. Too many enemies and your state collapses.

BOOOOO

State enforcement against degeneracy is a thing in NatCap. Paleoconservatism is very limited government, something I do not agree with.

>nationalism
>capitalism


pick one

The system acknowledges race and the differences between them; it also recognizes that you shouldn’t punish the many for the actions of a few. The battle of National Socialism against the Jews was misguided; you do not fire the janitors at a Fortune 500 if the CEO was embezzling money. So why kill every last Jew if it was the banking class that identified as Jews that did it?

You can't have nationalism and capitalsm running with each other.

How about this symbol instead?

The United States for the first 150 years?

The USA had a ton of protectionism and nationalist qualities for all of its glory years. Its funny how people have already forgotten it. They act like the USA started in the 1960's.

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I love it! Make it happen!

>nationalist
>values materialistic order more than people
????

A nationslist values his race and people over everything else.

based, thank you mister gadsen

also massive amounts of immigration

implying all immigrants are the same

proof of anti-nationalism right here

these noobs still dont udnerstand how nations become succesful
free market is what powerful coutnries push on weaker countries such as mine in order to stay in power
their nationalist markets, are our free markets
only protectionist countries that force their shit on the rest of the world's markets stay on top

National Socialism lasted what, 15 years for one time in history?

All Monarchies and early Republicans were capitalists in some form, accord to socialists. They lasted much longer and did much more to further their people than Socialism ever has.

The Nazi meme was a horrible failure.
Fascist Spain was the most successful but their economy eventually died too.

Nationalist means the basis that you organize yourself on is in race and this flesh snd blood, peoples, no economic dogma is the foundation of economic policy but the people themsrlves are the foundation of economic policy.

we essentially brain drained the entire world for more than 100 years. its in the national interest to deprive our rivals of their best and brightest.

98% of it from Europe only. Strict laws on that until the 60's.

not really, assimilation was forced on all immigrants. Which is nationalism.
"white" people became "white" because they could no longer be German, Irish, English etc. They could only be American.

Like judeo-communism but half as bad. Fuck off, statist

I like this thread. This is a good Idea. I also like the dollar flag, it will trigger communists. There should be more threads like this. Thanks OP.

thats capitalist as fuck, and thats why you have shitty domestic education and infrastructure systems. That attitude is what has led to your current predicament as far as immigration and crumbling national infrastructure. You are a bloated mess that parasitically relies on other peoples for your every need, hardly nationalistic and I wouldnt recommend keeping it.

>natcap

i like it
and i havent even read OP yet

Then you are not a capitalist. Capitalists are always a minority, and we hate the majority and see them as commodities.

Sages

hi ghost and the inner circle

>economic policy isn't from economic theory
>it's da people
that sounds like a workable idea and not completely fucking retard

When someone asks you what you are you answer, Race, flesh, blood human principles.

we are weighed down by welfare and excessive taxation and regulations. our education system is socialized. in our glory days private schooling was the norm. youre attacking socialist elements of our country in order to somehow discredit capitalism? sure thing buddy

Fucking autistic LARPing thread

eat shit, faggot

>a thread discussing an idea
>larp

are you fucking retarded?

Get out, jew shill!

Good shit OP
bump

Capitalists are always going to be globalists, the markets have to expand always. that's the only recovery in capitalism. Capitalism has become too dependant on resources across the world at first, the colonies supplied it now the world is a colony of the multinational corporations. There is no solution where capitalism and nationalism survive together since globalism is the end game. Even if you tried to keep it insular, asides from getting overthrown it would get under cut by the black market bringing in illegal commodities.

We need a new system that isn't capitalist or marxist, they're products of enlightenment era liberalism that have to die.

Correct, there is no evonomic dogma but the one uchanfing principle sre people made of flesh and bone, these people is who I base my organization on, the beauty of my race snd people the spirit and values of our own.
We organize ourselves as mothers fathers sons daughters of our racial community.

In your glory days pretty much nobody had a tertiary education, or even education past sixteen. Death by infectious diseases was common due to poor urban sanitary works and your economy was run off of poor immigrants from other countries. Socialised education and public sanitation works solved the first two, not the free market, whilst the last one is a proud american tradition of importing labour for cheap and then complaining when you become minorities.

I could get behind this. It pisses off both the stormfags and the commies.
Keep going OP. Lets see where we go.

Sounds a lot better than National Socialism to say at least
But it's hard to see that working out when neither nationalists nor capitalists would aprove it.

We build from our people, we study from our people, we work from our people.

This is dumb. The point is that it's capitalism with the "handicap" of being nationalistic as a priority. It's a solid idea.

uh huh

so basically you'll trust whatever dictator throws that bullshit around while he does whatever he wants with the economy

really intelligent people you all have

It's basically Paleoconservatism without the protectionism.

But I can get behind it.

No its not. Because the two sides will fight each other until one prevails. Some people will support cheap shit, and so want greater capitalism at the expense of nationalism, whilst others will want greater nationalism and so have to limit the free market to do so.

Is this a new meme or did I miss something?

I tried making the dollar sign less obvious just to see how it would look.

Fuck off and die. I swear you redditfags will end up in camps with the kikes.

I could possibly get behind the natcap. Let's go!

It won't work, they will either be the enemy for the other globalist states like Iran is or the business class that emerges will eventually ensure that the nation participates back in the global economy again.

Stick that bundle of sticks faggot.

Or better yet, buy a purple double headed dildo for only 19.99

its not a meme. Its a fact that hardline nationalism cannot exist alongside capitalism. Hence random people from across the globe can say the same thing.

>In your glory days pretty much nobody had a tertiary education, or even education past sixteen. Death by infectious diseases was common due to poor urban sanitary works
implying the rest of the world was anything different in those times.
>your economy was run off of poor immigrants from other countries.
and this is a problem why? they still chose to come here and were better off that if they had stayed in their home countries.
>Socialised education and public sanitation works solved the first two, not the free market,
they solved problems that didnt exist. even today most people have no use for tertiary education and modern medicine is a product of the free market. even these days there still exist privately owned water,sewage and electricity utilities. please dont try to school me on my own country while you adhom from behind your meme jihadi flag.

>until one prevails

Take a guess who will win.

I bet you can't

We have principles that must be carried out and policies that must be implemented we will find our Fuhrer to lead us, in the meantime while no Fuhrer has bern found we are inma state of regency and the party localities leaders shall help lead the movement against counter revolutionary propaganda and reactionaries, neo nazis are counter revolutionaries who demoralize and try to turn our revolution to that of evil and destruction they come from the Jew and are counter revolutionaries all the same, all other counter revolutionary propaganda will be listed to protect the people from traps done by enemies.
Our movement is the noblest one that uplifts the human condition.

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I agree with some of this, but what's with the restriction on avocation of communism? Don't tell me you're anti free speech user.

Also can't help but notice the wording on the firearms part includes non-citizens. No restrictions seems a bit misguided to me as well.

capitalism no shit. I dont know what your point is

>knowing the price of dildos
Well...

>'guys, lets make a whole new normie friendly ideology!'
>copies nazis

Fucking retards. This is an adult board, you have to be 18+ to post. All these children need to leave

Nationalism would win if we act fast in trying to suppress capitalism!

>4. The Nation must always maintain a balanced budget, neither debt nor surplus is acceptable.

you are fucking retarded

My point is you nationalist suck my almighty capitalistic cock

>capitalism means free market

fucking idiot, that's Laissez Faire Capitalism

Dead link
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhdy0Y8AqPM

>what is google
>obviously not a capitalist
>there is a market for everything

>I'm a shill trying to use divide and conquer tactics because your ideas would destroy the NWO

>implying the rest of the world was anything different in those times.
And then the rest of the world socialised, and then the rest of the west got better. My point still stands that socialization is good.

>and this is a problem why? they still chose to come here and were better off that if they had stayed in their home countries.
Thats not nationalist. Thats the problem

>they solved problems that didnt exist. even today most people have no use for tertiary education
Is this a joke?

> modern medicine is a product of the free market
Is this a joke. certain drugs cost under two dollars to make but are sold for 170 dollars, not exactly fair to the public.

>even these days there still exist privately owned water,sewage and electricity utilities
Still subject to intense government regulation and built off the government grids.

The best form of calitalism.

It has a nice ring to boot!

>there are people ITT that think Nationalism and Capitalism are mutually exclusive

absolute fucking retards

Thats the point, that nationalism and capitalism cannot coexist.

>subscribing to the nationalist spook

the best form of capitalism is one that finds the optimal level of competition on the market

which is not free market capitalism, but one with minimal anti-trust and anti-pollution laws

I love it. National Capitalism now!

The system has to acknowledge and always aim to preserve the racial composition of its people and acknowledge racial differences as absolute truths if the system does not, the "system" will inevitably collapse like Rhodesia like South Africa like Europe and the USA will unless something is done.
The system has to acknowledge that perhaps sadly humans are not equal among the races, with varying degrees of success along different spectrums.
The race that creates it's own civilization must be preserved along with its civilization at all costs.

Would the "system" agree?

>argue against communist
>get called a capitalist
>argue against capitalism
>get called a communist
>tfw

>thinks it is relevant
>thinks shills exist

I think you need to recharge your EBT card...you are running out of foil.

We don't need this general, anyone who's redpilled already knows capitalism is the only answer
You cunts want to.make yourselves useful go fuck with the other commie/socialist/sg/ threads that spring up and let them know ow they aren't welcome

When the most capitalistic countries in the world are letting brown people in by the millions and gave faggots the most rights they have had in the history of human civilization, don't be surprised when people are going to think that the two are mutually exclusive.

The dollar sign reminds me of what I saw when I read Atlas Shrugged. Also, I think you should emphasize the importance of private property rights as well as that is essential to a free society. Also, what about things like eminent domain, which goes against private property. There would be no income tax correct? Would there be free market banking or how would the monetary system work? Would it be state regulated money, that wasn't fiat? Would minority immigration be allowed, because personally I think it should only be white immigration. Also, I think National Capitalism is the road for America. White European countries can have their fascism and NatSoc, because I think it is possible there. I probably have more questions but let's get this thread going because I love the idea of NatCap

eh, i've seen way worse. have a free bump and let's see where this goes.

except those countries were welfare states when they let those brown people in

As National Socislists our primary enemies are subversives who call in our name for acts of destruction evil and murder, and the lies of us being on a path of conquest, 1st of all we are on a policy of world disarmament, 2nd of all we have no desire to harm any other peoples in the world.
We are an enemy of the exploiters of the economically weak and an enemy to the exploiters and murderes of the world, international finance.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=uBxvdkpV8Z0

3. The Nation must respect and defend the freedom of its citizens.

14. The Citizen may not advocate communism, socialism or non family kin centered lifestyles without recourse.

kek
This shit doesn't even pass peer review

Capitalism is nothing but a tool that a nation uses strategically for the benefit of it's people.
It is not an end in itself

>Implying Sweden and Germany aren't ruled by EU socialist dictators

That doesn't mean they aren't a capitalist economy. Only literal memeball Ancaps think that some form of welfare means capitalism doesn't exist.

No, you just set up a private industry that competes against pollution. Laisse faire still wins; okay, some intervention here and there, but we are behind the politicians all the same, and capitalist are usually present in the room. So, LF still wins.

Because it isn't just money. Look in to MindGeek.

>Blaming Capitalism for a problem caused by a socialist program

>So why kill every last Jew if it was the banking class that identified as Jews that did it?

For fuck sakes Reddit.

...There were no gas chambers and there was no genocide. There were labor camps that the National socialists lost the ability to maintain properly and this combined with the unhealthy living conditions/spread of disease within the camps led to the unjust deaths of many people. Jews and also many poles and other people.

The biggest cause of suffering and starvation in the camps was the Allied bombing of supply routes to these camps. The allies are directly responsible for that starvation.

Part of me feels that this provided the jews with enormous leverage. The truth is that the mass casualties that took place in the labor camps were almost entirely caused by the Allies. Thus the post war arrangement to villify beyond doubt, to the extent it became cartoonish, the germans who ran these camps, while submitting enormously favorable conditions toward the jews. A country, Military and financial aid, continued support.

The Allies basically got blackmailed into this.


Now as far as capitalism.... late stage capitalism is the cannibalism of culture. If growth is threatened then the entire ethnic and cultural history of a country is thrown out for mass immigration in the hopes of maintaining a certain level of growth that maintains gov borrowing/spending/liabilities. Meanwhile about 100% of the mass immigrants will continue to vote for a larger Gov. It is cyclicaly self fulfilling destruction.

This is why it doesn't really matter who is in power. Rep/Dem. The private owners of the central banks and their fiefdoms in the media, academia, and entertainment, are what count. Own the currency, the culture, and all of the debt, and it doesn't matter what politicians say or do. They are basically playing a game of public make believe for people who believe the state is just a collection of the best and brightest coming together. no.