Why have you not embraced polygamy yet pol?
Why have you not embraced polygamy yet pol?
Degeneracy. No matter how much Roosh the Raghead tries to make it appealing.
Enjoy your headaches.
>Everything I don't like is degenerate
Why don't you actually go on a crusade and die?
Are you fucking kidding me?
Obviously never dealt with a women in real life
The bullshit from just one of them has put a barrel in the mouth of many of fine men
>t.degenerate
I was actually thinking about starting a crowd-sourced recruiting website that helps men organized and mature enough find multiple wives.
I might provide prenup template suggestions or annual marriage formats, shit like that.
idk tho, might not be a market for that sorta thing.
>We gotta save the white race
>But letting men marry multiple women and have more kids is wrong because reasons
i cant even get one woman, how the fuck do you expect me to get 4
wait for the collapse and start appropriating women
Because who gets the multiple wives
BUt if you have two or more they turn the bullshit on each other and save you from it.
Kinda like kids are easier to manage when you have two , they keep each other occupied instead of demanding your time and attention all the time.
I have. Got two wives, twins.
>hurr durr degenerate
All of you buzzword spouting retards need to die.
There is nothing stopping you from having more than one sexual partner, how long it lasts depends on you and your partners.
how does polygamy benefit incels
Because i can't find women who aren't retarded enough to make it work.
It benefits the people that actually should reproduce. Polygamy among humans has historically never been something most men partake in or try to partake in, it was something particularly rich and powerful men who could support numerous wives/concubines and children did. Essentially Dave the factory worker and Mike the engineer probably will only have one wife, but Jim the Senator or Jack the CEO might have multiple wives and concubines. Even with the rich taking multiple women it doesn't impact the average man much since the total percentage of women in polygamous marriages is low.
I can't even pull off monogamy..
Because I believe in the continuation of relative stability in white civilization
but truth be told I'm a total cynic and I see the West's future at this point in time as a preordained path to mediocrity and collapse unless the course is drastically altered
I'm not sure if I should embrace degeneracy at this late a stage in civilization or if I should fight it
feels lonely to fight man
This.
Did it once, women don't play nice.
Older and wiser now.
Women are a finite resource. Jim the Senator and Jack the CEO having multiple wives means Dave the factory worker won't have any. This does not make a healthy society. Dave the factory worker will have no stake in staying productive and will turn to degeneracy and violence. Healthy societies all have culturally or state enforced monogamy. Find me one counterexample and I'll reconsider.
I have enough with mine, thank you anyway!
I can't even talk to myself in the mirror let alone a girl
>Jim the Senator and Jack the CEO having multiple wives means Dave the factory worker won't have any
Not really since the number of men taking multiple wives would likely be highly limited especially if culture dictated that women couldn't work meaning a man with multiple wives would need to support those wives and children fully by himself. In other words if 1 in 1000 men had multiple wives and the average number of wives per man with multiple wives was 4 than that would mean that the remaining 999 men would have 996 women between themselves. Of course the actual number might be closer to 999 anyway since women slightly outnumber men.
Of course such a system requires a significant reorganization of society, and if polygamy was legalized tomorrow and became widely accepted 99% of the people who would enter polygamous marriages probably would just be degenerates. However as a thought experiment it is poignant to note that there is nothing inherently wrong with polygamy in a well ordered society.
Because not everyone wants to be a polygamist
Meanwhile in real life polygamous societies no man goes "eh... having 3 women do whatever I tell them doesnt sound too good lol" so 100% of the men try and get multiple wives and 33% manage it and the remaining 66% have no purpose in life and turn to crime and radicalism and you end up with shitholes like the middle east.
I can't find one woman who likes me let alone several
Do you have any source for this claim that isn't anecdotal?
1 wife is expenaive enough.
Find one, then several more will show up. It's like magic.
>BUt if you have two or more they turn the bullshit on each other and save you from it.
Hahahahahahahahaa
*breathes*
Hahahahahahahahaa
>expenaive
'murica
Sandnigs have lots of crime because they are impulsive not sexual frustration.
It's a lot easier to have women when you don't try to "get" them.
Easy. It gets them off the relationship escalator mindset.
Only young women generally have time for that competitive shit.
>Women are a finite resource. Jim the Senator and Jack the CEO having multiple wives means Dave the factory worker won't have any.
Women are not rival goods, in the economic sense of the term.
>t.fake jew
Stop marrying fake Jewish women and you won't have any of these problems, Sup Forums.
tell me more plz
can't love.
checked
Sup Forumsasites can't even get one girl, let alone a bunch of them.
This. Its hard being practically invisible to anyone, especially women. But hopefully tbere comes an oppurtunity that you can capitalize on.
That's because they have the maturity and complexity level no greater than the media they consume, which is maybe two, unlikely three steps above Disney features rated G.
>polygamy embraced
>one male in a position of power allowed to horde multiple women
>or potentially dozens, with there being no philosophical barrier to such once the threshold of monogamy has been overcome
>hundreds of males by a ratio to those wives who are married to few men now have no way to satisfy their biological urge to pass on their genes or seek stability
>these unattended males with no moderating influences or prospects for a future beyond them proceed to wreck havoc in society
There's a good reason why polygamy has never been the accepted norm anywhere (practically anywhere, with there being an exception for endangered populations for emergency replacement purposes), no less why it ought to remain permanently unacceptable.
I tried but I'm sadly not enough of a sociopathic cult leader personality to make it work. Tried 2 girls at once but they just got pissed and both left.
(((Communist))) degeneracy. Kys you sick fuck.
Because I don't live in a third world country where that would be plausible
Because my one and only love died recently after a 14 year battle with cancer.
I'm never going to love again, never will date, never will make love, and definitely never be married again. She was the last good woman in this country. Will now be celibate and work on raising the kids, making my life better, and spend time with my grandchildren when they come.
Polygamy is several steps below suicide. And she made me promise her I'd be happy; never taking off my ring and raising our kids alone is better than remarrying - much less having more than one new wife!
Enjoy your society starting to cannibalize itself, falling into stone age and being defeated by strong and stable monogamous one. Exactly what happened with european civilizations and a whole planet of shitskins they conquered.
I'm sorry, user. I know it's different but my Father unexpectedly lost my Mother 10 and a half years ago (when I was 9) and still hasn't so much as dated anyone else. I'm glad you still have your children and will be able to see your Grandchildren. We're working on that for my Dad, too. God Bless.
>has never been the accepted norm anywhere
Not like muh norms stopped any of the Biblical figures from having hundreds of wives, with Yahweh's apparent blessing.
I can't find one girlfriend, what makes you think I can find 3?
There is nothing wrong with polygamy. Westerners have become so emasculated and degenerate that the thought of having even one woman that the concept of having several must simply horrify their special little snowflake minds.
When you find the one, you will probably find it slightly easier to find the next one, since you won't be dwelling on how unlikeable you are, because at least one person has disproven that for you.
*first one
>Not like muh norms stopped any of the Biblical figures from having hundreds of wives, with Yahweh's apparent blessing.
>any of the Biblical figures
Not any of them, but only some of the early ones, which describes the circumstances of extremely primitive people in a practically nomadic--probably stressed, assuredly hierarchical to the extreme--existence, and from before the referenced peoples codified their society, which in doing so came down against it.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement to cherry pick the bible.
Also Islam and, before the corporate Christians (((civilized))) it, Mormonism, supported a man having as many wives as he could support, bearing in mind that wives were seen largely as political objects and baby factories by Abrahamists, and the very notion of pleasure is repugnant to Puritans.
This guy gets it. The Mormons get it.
>Women are not rival goods, in the economic sense of the term.
There is only so much of them as there are men, maybe even slightly less. And man without woman dont have much use for society (also proven by this site heh) and can easily turn hostile towards it. If you want your nation to be strong with all men contributing into it and avoid turning it against itself, you need to force monogamy by any means possible. European civilization used to do that while it ruled the world, and now that it abandoned its ways it rots from inside while getting fucked by shitskins.
>There is only so much of them as there are men, maybe even slightly less
All the more reason for women to have multiple partners.
>And man without woman dont have much use for society (also proven by this site heh) and can easily turn hostile towards it.
))) As I said above.
>If you want your nation to be strong with all men contributing into it
you make sure every man has a chance with at least one, preferably more than one woman.
>European civilization used to do that while it ruled the world
It's only a theory, but I believe that the prevalence of extramarital contact was about the same as it ever was, just that it's less of a taboo subject now so doesn't *appear to be* as rare as it once *apparently* was.
>shitskins
Don't blame them, it's all (((Hollywood's))) fault for forcing the meme.
>Why don't you actually go on a crusade and die?
seems more fun than working an office job
i get to rape and pillage if i live right
cant even hold one gf how am i supposed to keep 4?
Because love is selfish. It will make you the happiest you've ever been and the most terrified you would ever want to be. Doesn't matter if you want to or not it's how we work. You can try your hand at it and says it's the best thing in your life, but I'm not about to change just because you said so.
I have trouble having one.
Because it's fucking degenerate. You can only ever truly love one person as a spouse. Having multiple partners degrades their worth. A healthy, stable nuclear family is the strongest family model and is unobtainable with polygamy. The kids will grow up with twisted logic and degenerate morals.
>I have. Got two wives, twins.
Are they're your twins, redneck?
Just kidding, tell me more.
>All the more reason for women to have multiple partners.
Raising your wife's son is not a healthy way of life.
>preferably more than one woman.
Do you have any problems with logic? If someone has more than one, someone has less than one. I am talking about having family and children, because this is what females sought for, if you want just fuck you can visit whorehouse anytime and this is not a problem at all.
>Having to look after four fully grown adults that all require the same emotional, financial and romantic attention as each other
Having one partner is a big commitment in itself. Why would you want anymore? This ain't Harem shit y'know, it won't work out like that.
because it disincentivizes men even more from operating civilization
if my choices are to work my ass off with no reward and no kids, or be a lazy hermit in the woods with no reward and no kids, guess which one sounds better
polygamy only works when there are excess females after 100% male marriage rate has been reached
>Raising your wife's son is not a healthy way of life.
Neither is adoption, but sometimes it is what is done.
Reproduction is optional, you know.
>Do you have any problems with logic? If someone has more than one, someone has less than one
The logical error you are making is assuming that wives are exclusive property.
>I am talking about having family and children, because this is what females sought for
Sexual reproduction is not obligate. There really is no problem with a girlfriend or wife having safe, non-procreative sex with others, is there?\\
>because it disincentivizes men even more from operating civilization
Maybe a civilization so dull and hateful should just be allowed to collapse, then.
>ywn have a haram of white wifes to continue the white race with
why even live?
>Maybe a civilization so dull and hateful should just be allowed to collapse, then.
it already is.
>before the corporate Christians (((civilized))) it, Mormonism
Mormons could appeal to the technical "emergency replacement" exception because they already were a small population, attacked out of their homes and chased across the country until they were subjected to a starvation tier existence that threatened to eliminate them and their uniqueness. Those Mormons still practicing polygamy as late as a few years ago were doing to as a discredited fundamentalist (and extremely small, as in a singular community) sect.
And with regards to the Warren Jeffords led community, the same problem as I described did plague this community; it could only continue its practices unnoticed by the larger society by kicking out its discontent male members to be absorbed into the much larger community which surrounded it.
The example is so singular that its equivalence can easily be found in any religion, provided that one were motivated to accept as "religiously inspired" the excuse of any who secretly hold women captive in underground bunkers.
>also some muslims
Also not an excuse as the primitive, extreme hierarchical stressed conditions applied long into recorded history for some of their paleolithic tech bound nomadic groups as much as it did with regard to the early biblical ones mentioned early before being civilized.
Each of the test cases you might continue to cite would similarly have extraordinary circumstances apply to them, as no major population group ever has (or could) long practice polygamy.
It is not an alternative lifestyle, or up for debate as a morally equivalent one. It is a thoroughly impractical social organization, and to seem to advocate for it would only be for that cause: to promote impracticality, and/or for the purposeful attempt at moral confusion.
>There really is no problem with a girlfriend or wife having safe, non-procreative sex with others, is there?
Oh sorry, before this post i didnt got whom i talking to. Have you prepped the bull today?
You simply cannot conceive of a relationship as between peers, can you? If she does, I get to, too. Mind blown yet?
Force marry your cousins. That's how Jamal does it
adultery is a sin
You either clearly dont know how humans work, or just baiting.
Polygamy is actually a very clever system. Muslims figured this out long ago.
>Upper class gets multiple wives. The smart, the attractive, the physically fit. They get 10 wives and hundreds of babies.
>Because of the 50/50 ratio of men/women, this means that the lower status, uglier people are thus deprived of women.
>thus if they want to have sex, they need to conquer and rape foreigner's women.
It's a very good system for a conquering ideology. And it's Eugenic as well, so long as the people who get the wives are indeed the healthiest, most attractive, most intelligent....etc
I don't know how humans who lack the capacity for anything other than imitating others and following scripts work. Baiting? Maybe.
>It's a very good system for a conquering ideology
And it's a very good reason to sterilize all Abrahamics, everywhere.
Go find love you fucking tipper.
This wise system indeed helped them to reach their current superior state of savagery, constant war with itself, low standards of life and rampant inbreeding.
Had it, don't need it right now, have some things I need to work on first.
Enjoy sustaining an advanced civilisation through "polygamy".
then within a few generations everyone is related. Hence the inbreeding problem.
it's not smart at all.
What about the US, again?
Okay.
It could be smart if you regulate it better. Instead of 10 wives a piece, the people at the top only get 2 or possibly 3.
DNA analysis proves that although 80% of females have passed on their genes, only about 40% of males have. Most men are supposed to die through warfare, work accidents, disease and the like. Before this comfortable modern world, literally 50% of the population of young males in France, England, Belgium, Germany....etc were dying in warfare. Meanwhile in the modern world, this filtering process is no longer allowed to take place, meaning our genome is degrading into short, fat, and ugly.
Pic related, women sense this subconsciously as well. Only a very small percentage of the male population is suitable breeding stock.
Polygamy could be the solution we need here
If I really was worth repopulating with I'd have an IQ of 80 and 10 children by the age of 13 and be dead at the age of 20 with 1000 children. Natural selection doesn't favor me and I don't favor it because I am not that douchebag machine that breaks every single rule to repopulate at the cost of society. The only thing I can wait for is The Happening to wipe out the stupid.
Idiocracy should have been a documentary.
The documentary is live nigger.
>wanting not 1 bitch but *insert number here* bitches complaining all the time
What are you retarded?
top fucking kek
Of course he's baiting; he blew off and ignored the only considered, learned response to the issue which approaches it in a sociological frame of reference when he skipped over my counter argument , the core one:
Polygamy is stupid. It's stupid because outside of a narrow range of extraordinary circumstances, it's wholly unworkable.
A guy baiting for discussion only to ignore that discussion when it finds him is just a troll. This thread is therefore, for all intents and purposes, a slide thread.
Then do it. Seriously, start up a crusade and retake the holy land instead of larping like a faggot.
>muh STIs
Most of which are treatable and preventable. Why weren't they? Maybe it's because rednecks were too busy trying to get their wallet-size grandchildren to show off than to prepare them for a healthy, active sex life with their choice of partners.
Very interesting that they're not showing STI infection per partner, which can be deduced from the "effects of promiscuity on STIs" graph. Inexperience makes it more likely that you'll catch something because you won't know what to look for. Pedophiles get to give the gift that keeps on giving.
>muh dissatisfaction with monogamy
Maybe sexual fidelity is a poor and arbitrary proxy for the health of a relationship and is not really something that people who have had broad sexual experience consider valuable. In other words, rationalization on your part.
>muh dissatisfaction with marriage
Clever stat they use there: women over 30 in a marriage of over 5 years. Marriage is a shitty business and not for everyone. Ignorance is bliss. These people are selling ignorance as the way to bliss.
>muh too many sexual partners
That's begging the question, again. You really do have to buy the whole package of virginity as a virtue in order to consider most of these scary bar graphs an indicator of a problem with sexual experience rather than confounding factors from a society that hates women who dare to determine their own destiny.
>muh bible
Political polemics from 1500 years ago are not relevant to me.
I blame you, Sup Forums, not the women.
I'm trying but My wife isn't ok with the idea yet, and I don't want to push it too hard because I like having all my stuff and getting to see my kids everyday.
Their family has a thing about twins habing a "connection" or whatever so they couldn't be separated. I only wanted of them but in the course of arranging to court her I found out I'd have to take both of them, luckily only at the price of one. It's pretty good. Unlike normal sister-wives they can safely share a living space.
>nuclear family
How to spot a faux-traditionalist: they support "the nuclear family". The "nuclear family" is a modern invention designed to weaken the family. Large extended families is how it's always been.
>How to spot a faux-traditionalist: they support "the nuclear family". The "nuclear family" is a modern invention designed to weaken the family. Large extended families is how it's always been.
THIS. This needs a LOT more air on Sup Forums. Faux-traditionalists are tedious little shits.
>women who dare to determine their own destiny
Woman is a resource of nation first and foremost, not a human being in full sense and shouldnt be considered as such. Societies that forget that and assume that female are allowed to determine something known to decay and end rather quickly. This is objective truth and will remain such no matter how much time you repeat than it's 2017.
damn dude. you're a good man.
F
love is a meme
find a new woman
yes. this needs its own thread.
no, u read grimm's fairy tales. like 1/3 of them are about wicked stepmother fucking over the kids.