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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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How's Venezuela doing???

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>Marxism Leninism

If you hate Sup Forums being nazis, then why would turning them into tankies be any better?

Hello Gomrades, This general is for the disgussion of Margsism-Leninism, ideology of revolutionaly socialismus and food :D

Revolution won't happen. Deal with it.

Hello Kamerad. How do I eat and surf the internet in a communist regime?

No yous for the spic.

Hello Cumrag, what must a good goy like me do to keep my Starbucks and iPhone?

>This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism
>Does not care to answer questions
Is this communism discussion 101?

It must suck making a communist general and get laughed at in the comments

>falling for the communism meme

I've come in cg 3 times willing to be converted and they haven't even tried once. It has to be a joke.

Venezuela is a kleptocracy that exchanged the regular nationalist rhetoric for a leftist one - both sides of the political climate are just different sections of bourgeois interests.

define tankie

use another flag kekistani

Hi comrade, do I know you?

Ask your bourgeois masters cuck

Hello comrade, revolution when?

Welcome back komrad. Was your short absence due to newly refined internet in glorious gommie country?

"LEAVE OUR COMRADE ALONE HE HAS ASTHMA", the antifa cuck yelled out with a lisp.

Communism converts by force

what the hell are you talking about?

So the point of these 'generals' is to shitpost, gotcha.

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FAQ for washed liberal-morons, kekistani egdelord teenagers and normal people who simply do not know much about communism:

1. Communism is the USSR.
The USSR is a socialist state, not a communist state.

2.1. Why, then, does the Communists all the time refer to the USSR?
Because the USSR is our historical experience of the practical construction of a communist society. We highlight the positive aspects of the experience of the USSR and study the negative experience. It is also worthwhile to understand that the USSR is for us a certain significant Symbol.

2.2 Communism is a dictatorship
Under communism there are no classes, accordingly there is no dictatorship.

3. What about the dictatorship of the proletariat?
The dictatorship of the proletariat is a temporary form of political power called upon to ensure the observance of the rights of the proletariat during the transition from capitalist society to communism.

4. But Stalin ...
With regard to the period of Stalin's rule, we can identify a lot of positive and negative aspects of his activities. But unfortunately, all-round propaganda has distorted the history of this period too much, therefore, without a comprehensive historical analysis of this period, it is impossible to draw unambiguous conclusions on the basis of ALL declassified documents.

5. And yet Stalin ...
We adequately perceive the figure of Stalin and treat him normally and without hysteria. Nevertheless, Stalin - though significant, but by no means the main figure of the communist movement.

6. What is the main figure, if not Stalin?
Marx

7. Ie you are not Communists, but Marxists?
Communism is part of Marx's teaching. At present, Marx's teaching has evolved into many directions. As for the precise definition, the terms "Communist" and "Marxist" often very much depend on the context.

8. Communism is the antithesis of democracy.
By no means. Communism is just a true democracy.

What do communists believe about dead trannies?

9. Under communism - all work in the Gulag for workdays on 24/7.
On the contrary, the Communists set their task to reduce the number of working hours, by increasing the productivity of labor. Ideally, we should work for 4 hours in fully automated production, the remaining time dedicated to self-development, art, hobby.

10. But wait! This is a capitalistic post-industrial one!
You are deeply mistaken my young friend. This is precisely communism. And under capitalism you will not get it. Communism is the highest stage of development of society and economy and if capitalism is similar to what I described above, then it turns into communism.

A lot of the revolutionaries there were actually other socialists. This mysteriously gets left out of most American descriptions.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.gommies.gom/fug/https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

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Da sdages of gommunism.

Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>NOT
>TRUE
>GOMMUNISM

>I don't know how to answer specific questions, just be a broken record.

I'm utterly disappointed again.

fugg off gommie

Get this man a beer.

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i think all ideologies do this you know the old "capitalism is the greatest system ever, but now we have corporatism and there not at all the same" meme?

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the bourgeoisie dont even let the dead rest

How's Illionois doing?

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good meme.

question, why do you choose marxist-leninism above anarchism?

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Use your almighty system to maintain the grave site then.

I come to these threads just to make sure this exact post with this exact pic is posted. Godspeed user

I'm a statist scum.

commies: worse than nazis.

The only good commie is a dead commie.

I'm not your enemy comrade I just want the best for all of us

Oh my! you have to pay for a maintenance of a high end grave/statue on a private burrial ground?

How fucking strange!

Burry him in the desert, see if you get taxed then. Fucking communists.

Ahh, so you must be one of those "my system has proved that under no circumstances can it ever a tually work in practice and is bound to crash and burn along with a huge loss of human life, but that is not important, on paper, even though even there it is critically flawd, it apeals to my distorted sense of justice and emotion, therefore, it is a perfect system, and must be hopelessly pushed upon general public. Also, seing how, due to me actually beliving in comunism, it is clear that i have had problems in mental development and therefore am stuck in a mental state of a 13 year old child, i can not actually come up with any arguments in a debate against adults, so i resort to copy pasta answers that someone else came up with" guys

Great job user and thank you for the laugh.
Keep it up.

>I just want the best for all of us

GOMRADES!
GOMMUNISM VERY GUD!
WE EQUALLY POOR, MALNOURISHED, UNDERACHIEVING AND MISERABLE BECAUSE WHY BOTHER?!
WELL NOT ALL OF US, THERE'S STILL AN ELITE TAKING CARE OF TOTALITARIAN MATTERS XDDDDD
NEGATIVE SELECTION GREAT, MERITOCRACY BAD, GOT IT? GOOD!
STAY THIS WAY FOR GENERATIONS, OR ELSE...
DEAL WITH IT OR WE KILL YOU WHILE YOU TRY TO ESCAPE XDD

it doesnt pay the rent, in anarcho-communism, you would not need to pay the rent so you can spent time maintaining it.

but who cares, were all going to lose, right and left, to neo-liberalistic coroporatism. so dont worry we can all die together in our hellhole

but why, isnt the goal of communism being stateless

> anarcho-communism being an actual option ever.
Holy fuck nice meme. Can I be a muslim-christian too?

The end goal is nowhere near in sight.

why couldnt it be?

I bet you're that Hispanic one.
How this time you plan to implement communism so that it won't collapse like always in the past?
What's your special brand?

Well, USA is heading for a collapse. No better time to talk about communism than when the biggest anti-commie crusader in the world is dying.

Communism is an authoritarian system, anarchy is libertarian system. two direct opposites of eatch other. I can't believe i have to tell you this.

then again, you're a communist. i guess the brain wasn't included in your birthing process.

I love gulags because it kills communists.

every centrally planned economy is going to collapse
what comes next is a libertarian right paradise, GOMRADE XDDD

catalonia and the paris commune were pretty OK, before getting steamrolled why not learn from their examples?

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USA is failing because of multiculturalism and left wing libertarianism, not capitalism.
btw. you failed too, time and time again.

The goal of both is to establish a non-hierarchical society, so...

>USSR went from a backwater shithole to the second most powerful country on Earth with central planning
>corporations engage in central-planning
>Incan Empire was centrally planned
>but it doesn't work ecks dee
This is your brain on the free market.

stand back, autistic austrian economic memes coming through

>not posting the full one

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.

gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

That wasn't my question.
How do you plan to implement communism, so it will work this time?
What do you want to do different?

If you don't have anything different to bring, it will end up like in the past - famines, shortages and totalitarian goverment.

the faggot's correct on kike monopolies failing tho
there is only one kind of libertarianism and that is right libertarianism

>tfw your nation has been killing commies for so long that you've become their boogieman

Venezuela?

I was thinking that we DON'T pay clouds not rain. And stop Stalin from eating all the grain.

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No, you see, to change the implementation would be to make it not communism, so they're just going to keep trying the same things over and over again until the rest of the world has sufficiently changed for it to work.

What?
So... nothing new?

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your totalitarian dream as well as status quo shall die as soon as people have viable means of not having to be forced to pay into wealth redistribution schemes, use monopolistic hyperinflationary means of payment and so on

you're nothing but a bunch of envious useless negatively-selected pieces of shit who deserve a .45 to the head for trying to violate NAP

communism is a moneyless, stateless and classless society, this is the actual definition.

what you descriped was marxist-leninism, which sucked in my opinion.
socialism also sucked since workers were not in charge of their own labor

inb4 "no true scotsman XD", pic related

> non-hierarchical society
> still have leaders

the 1% will always be there. For the matter of fact, thats what communism is for. For 1% to have an endless supply of equally deluded, dumb, useful idiots.

By all means, remain a commie, I love cheap labour.

This

>tfw communists now gleefully talk about how they're going to not let the worker have the full value of his labor
You guys have really hit rock bottom...

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>so they're just going to keep trying the same things over and over again until the rest of the world has sufficiently changed for it to work.

That souns awfully familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on where did I hear it.

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Wait, we were having a serious discussion? I just start shitposting when I get dumb nazi/mccarthy/cia memes spewed at me.

So do tell me , are you going to ally up with the anarchist kiddies again?

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Still no clear answer, I'm waiting.

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that russian guy must feel really bad since his childeren probably going to live off of UBI.

To understand Communism is to understand that it is a cult. Marx is their infallible prophet, and communism is the only thing worth living for.

I've had communists on this site openly admit that communism will almost certainly never work, but that they're going to keep trying because "if communism doesn't work then what reason does humanity have to exist?". It's literally communism or humanity's death for these people.

And that's before we get into the science denial. Marx has already been scientifically disproven, his "pre-agricultural communist society" has NEVER existed, and we know that humans aren't a blank slate, yet commies will deny this with NO explanation other than they don't want it to be true.

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>implying capitalism will let him afford children
It's funny to people confused by fertility rate is tanking and upset that they NEED immigrants to keep their pyramid scheme going.

>UBI
another negative selection-promoting mechanism that will drive away everyone worth a damn
do you want to see prosperous societies devolve into nigger or sandnigger-tier shitholes? if so then implement UBI

again the incentive shit, cmon give something better.

i worked at a kindergarten and have followed an education for childcare worker.

WHY, not because it pays good, but because i care for childeren.

>always failed due to western imperialist aggression
>somehow have to justify attempting it again
How about we launch the fucking nukes next time?

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