Soy makes you gay

>soy makes you gay

is there any truth to this? or at least that it makes you more effeminate / creates estrogen in men?

if yes, how do I avoid soy?

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youtube.com/watch?v=YG6rjpotQNg&t=19s
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens
youtube.com/watch?v=vltbg3NUSQs
livestrong.com/article/548574-soy-protein-male-breasts/
news.com.au/lifestyle/health/erin-downie-tells-of-frightening-health-issues-after-25-million-bonsoy-settlement/news-story/ba37695ac2fa63ab70340878d92df4b1
worldnewsdailyreport.com/england-man-grows-breasts-after-drinking-too-much-soy-milk/
sickchirpse.com/man-develops-tits-drinking-soy-milk/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/
youtube.com/watch?v=osAJOlSFdEo
twitter.com/AnonBabble

By offing your self faggot

Well, look at Asian men?

They don't even need to go through hormones to become traps

Take a look on the back of any candy, mainstream candy.

Soy.

Now think about how many products fall into that arena of "food" quality.

Now think about how many people can't afford, or are too stupid to eat organic/healthy.

Now think about how many people in those groups drink lots of beer.

There's your answer.

Yes, there are phytoestrogens in soy. When you consume them they act like estrogen in your body. Google it

>if yes, how do I avoid soy?

look at the ingredients to see if it contains soy.

Also you shouldn't be eating processed foods at all anyway.

Only buy plain ingredients and fresh food. Canned goods should be the furthest you go. Dry beans are cheaper than canned anyways.

Garden for food.

youtube.com/watch?v=YG6rjpotQNg&t=19s

No wonder the vegan cucks are so autistic lmao

fuck the straight edge and fuck their stupidity

but milk soy is better than cow milk . cow milk is full of estrogens caused by antibiotics and the shit the milk eats . altho i think the superior milk is the one made out of almonds

This. Soy is perfectly healthy, especially compared to the (((dairy cow))) tit juice.

Personally, I think cashew milk is the best milk. Unsweetened specifically.

Do not drink milk.

Is there soy in beer? Are you fucking kidding me? I can't even enjoy beer without the kikes getting me?

It doesn't make you gay, it's just that gay people prefer soy.

Kinda like how weed doesn't make you retarded but retarded people naturally love weed.

>drinking nut milk
lmao faggots
Seriously, though, nut milks contain high levels of heavy metals and are not as nutritionally sound as milk. You may as well not drink milk at all if you don't drink real milk.

Naw, alcohol just turns into estrogen in the body.
Truly a shame.

Soy has Phytoestrogen, It comes in a couple of different plants and does woke like a fake estrogen in your body. You can avoid it but your going to have to avoid a lot of things. Also if you worry about things fucking with your testosterone stop microwaving your food in plastic containers

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens

Do Jews and blacks eat soy? They have the highest rates of homosexuality.

REEEEEEEE WHAT THE FUCK

Hops and barley have naturally occurring phytoestrogen in them, it's why drinking too much beer gives you man boobs. All in moderation mate.

Keep telling yourself that estrogen tit juice boy :^)

Soy sauce is awesome user.

How about hard alcohol?

Mongols drank so much milk that their fucking alcoholic beverages were milk. And they raped their way across half the world.

Yeah, they also had man tits too

what are some foods the sneak soy in?

They didn't use the hormone pumped cows we use now

Is organic milk fine?

they also ate a diet consisting almost entirely meats and other dairy products.
My advice, get a goat, you can get lawn-care, milk, hair and entertainment all through goats.

Also make sure they dont put pesticides in your lawn before you feed him grass.

I think so, check the wiki link in for a list of plants that have them and compares them to what your drinking

Unhomogonise jersey cow milk lad

not always, you have to know the cow and dont get it pasteurized.

Gold fucking top

None of you know how the digestive system works!

>Nut milk makes you gay.
Thread solved. Everyone can go home now.

you are dumb as shit

Soy makes you gay. I know a guy who use to supplement his diet with about 95% soy. Was straight as a line then went full blow gay. Started suckin dicks for days. He eventually became homeless from drinking flouride water. Now he holds up a sign downtown saying "Suckin bois for the soys." Stay away from that shit

soy doesnt make you gay, chemicals in our diet and on our plant based food does, soy however increases estrogen, making you want to look perty. together we get the metro millennial men who want to watch dudes bang their love but have great hair.

top kek please be true

No, there isn't any truth to it. Soy will make you look more Asian. You can trust me, I work for the World Health Organization.

but milk was good back in the days, cows were not pumped with estrogens and antibiotics . i would drink cow milk , i like the tase better than nut milk , but NUT MILK is healthy

>eating beans will make me a woman

not Sup Forums

sage

The phytoestrogen in soy and other beans only interact with your body in a beneficial way. The reason being is phytoestrogens in soy use a different receptor on your organs. So you get the benefits like improved bone health but next to zero hormonal impact. Animal estrogens on the other hand interact with the primary receptors and do cause hormone changes. Also industrial residue xenoestrogens commonly found in dairy are far worse and damaging than others.

>asians: huge global population
>europeans: world minority

t-thanks soy

I have my doubts that phytoestrogens are really that readily picked up and utilized by the human body.

The plastics and pesticides seem to more of a cause for effemination.

youtube.com/watch?v=vltbg3NUSQs

>mom gave me soy milk as a kid
>i was a huge bitch and probably had hormone problems from it
>tell her years later shes fucking stupid for giving me soy
>it doesnt mess up your testosterone son what??
I fucking hate oblivious people

Meatlet shills made those estrogen studies.

It doesn't. Unless you were drinking maybe 15 glasses a day.

See:

I would suggest anyone to have blood test to measure their testosterone/estrogen levels before going through the insanity that is that pic in your post.

It wasn't the soy user, you were just a little bitch

Completely fake you retard

>all this sudden influx of pro-soy posters
jew defense force arrived it seem

Other things to consider.

>An article in a 2008 issue of “Endocrine Practice” reported on a case in which the patient had developed gynecomastia due to the ingestion of soy products. This is an unusual and rare condition that occurred when the patient started drinking 3 quarts of soy milk per day.
livestrong.com/article/548574-soy-protein-male-breasts/

>Soy milk robbed me of seven years of my life+
>Erin Downie tells of frightening health issues after $25 million Bonsoy settlement
news.com.au/lifestyle/health/erin-downie-tells-of-frightening-health-issues-after-25-million-bonsoy-settlement/news-story/ba37695ac2fa63ab70340878d92df4b1

>ENGLAND: MAN GROWS BREASTS AFTER DRINKING TOO MUCH SOY MILK
worldnewsdailyreport.com/england-man-grows-breasts-after-drinking-too-much-soy-milk/

>Man Develops Tits After Drinking Too Much Soy Milk
sickchirpse.com/man-develops-tits-drinking-soy-milk/

>milk from naturally raised cows is healthy

Dairy farmer detected. I would not advise any male to drink the secretions from a permanently lactating 1.5 ton beast. You are recommending men to literally put estrogen in their bodies.

You are a fucking idiot, my grandpa is a farmer and yes, naturally raised milk is the best one by FAR

You can develop gyno from animals products as well. More so than eating or drinking soy. As seen in these actual science tests youtube.com/watch?v=vltbg3NUSQs soy phytoestrogen hardly changes hormone levels in your body. Women at risk or fighting breast cancer are told not to drink dairy because it causes breast inflammation from the estrogen. Dairy is far more feminizing than soy.

>youtube video
>science test
kek

There is not a single reason to put the milk from other species in your body and there is no reason to be an adult drinking milk. Just how common in nature would you say that is? Milk is literally for babies. Cow milk is literally for calves not you.

My younger brother grew up drinking soy milk and he's absolute scum. The worst person I've ever known by far.

Don't know if soy had anything to do with it.

>Just how common in nature would you say that is?
I would say common as fuck from prehistoric age to about 30 years ago.

It is when it's an actual doctor on his youtube channel discussing topics with references every step of the way. Fact based nutrition not bullshit.

Gonna save that shit up then, watch it later. Hopefully he has other topics too.

Any other redpilled doctors and scientists on youtube?

>digits
Holee fuck, m8.

>only beneficial
WEW LAD
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/
6. Cons: the endocrine disrupting properties of phytoestrogens in the adult brain and reproductive tract

In a 2008 clinical case report, physicians at SUNY Downstate Medical Center treated three women (aged 35–56) for a similar suite of symptoms including abnormal uterine bleeding, endometrial pathology and dysmenorrhea. In all three cases, symptoms ameliorated after soy intake was reduced or eliminated, demonstrating that consumption of particularly high isoflavone levels can compromise female reproductive health [38]. The youngest of the three had been on a soy-rich diet since age 14 and was experiencing secondary infertility, a condition that resolved and resulted in a pregnancy once she reduced her soy consumption. Isoflavone intake was not quantified, but estimated to exceed 40 g per day in the oldest of the three patients. It remains to be determined if these cases are atypical or sentinels of a legitimate public health concern. Because soy consumption is increasing so rapidly, and so many products now contain soy, along with its isoflavones and other phytoestrogens, this possibility clearly warrants greater attention.

6.1. Disruption of endogenous hormone levels and the ovulatory cycle

Animal and human studies evaluating phytoestrogen effects on the adult hypothalamic–pituitary–gonadal (HPG) axis following adult exposures have been fairly consistent and reveal the potential for suppression. Multiple studies have documented the estrogenic activity of phytoestrogens in ovariectomized rodents [54,235,239] and, in humans, it is generally accepted that consumption of isoflavones-rich soy foods suppresses circulating estrogen and progesterone levels and can attenuate the preovulatory surge of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) [298,179,65]. Notably, however, a handful of studies have found no impact of isoflavones on female hormone levels at all. One of the most recent of these followed 34 women consuming 100 mg of isoflavones per day for a year and found no changes in luteal phase levels of estradiol, estrone, progesterone, SHBG, FSH or LH at months 1, 3, 6 or 12 [162]. Another also failed to find altered circulating gonadal hormone levels in 14 women given soy cookies containing 52 mg of isoflavones or isoflavone-free cookies for 5 days. Interestingly, at least one study found suppressed luteal estradiol levels following increased soy intake, but only in women of Asian descent [298], indicating ethnicity could be an underappreciated factor when considering the potential human health effects of soy isoflavones. With such small samples sizes in all of these studies, however, they may have been too underpowered to detect effects. A 2009 meta-analysis concluded that, in pre-menopausal women, isoflavone intake increases cycle length and suppresses LH and FSH levels [104]. This conclusion is consistent with the clinical case report from SUNY Downstate Medical Center [38] and indicates that use of soy foods should be approached with caution in women attempting to become pregnant or experiencing menstrual cycle irregularities.

Soy made me hypothyroid. Cutting out soy brought my levels back to normal.

T. Ex-hypothyroid

monsanto soy is poison, yes. Now Monsanto and Bayer want to get into patenting/manipulating pot. it sucks

6.2. Behavior

Our research has revealed that isoflavone intake can suppress female sex behavior in rats. Administration of a commercially prepared phytoestrogen supplement to adult female rats, at a dose that results in serum levels between those seen in Western and Asian (human) adults, attenuated lordosis to the same degree as the SERM tamoxifen [207,204]. The supplement treated group displayed significantly fewer proceptive behaviors than the tamoxifen treated group, demonstrating the potential for soy isoflavones to suppress sexual motivation. Intriguingly, administration of genistein alone did not recapitulate these effects on sexual behavior [205] suggesting that a compound, or mixture of compounds, other than genistein was responsible for the suppressed sexual behavior. Studies using ERαKO mice have shown that ERα is required for the normal expression of both male and female sexual behavior [189,225,190] indicating that activity through ERα may be mediating this behavioral change.

"Eat the soy goyim"
"I'll bring back up the shoah if you don't"

Other behaviors may be affected as well including social, aggressive, and anxiety-related behaviors. Increased aggression and circulating testosterone levels have been reported in male Syrian hamsters maintained for 5 weeks on the soy-rich Purina 5001 diet compared to control animals fed a soy-free diet [174]. Animals on the phytoestrogen- rich diet also had lower vasopressin receptor (V1a) expression in the lateral septum but higher V1a expression in lateral hypothalamus indicating that the altered behavior might result from changes within vasopressin signaling pathways. Similarly, male rats maintained on a diet containing 150 µg/g genistein and daidzein displayed increased anxiety and elevated stress-induced plasma vasopressin and corticosterone levels [98]. Elevated hypothalamic vasopressin has also been reported in rats fed a diet containing 1250 ppm genistein across the lifespan [236]. Anxiolytic effects of phytoestrogen-rich diets have also been reported in gonadally intact male and female rats exposed over their entire lifetimes but not when administered briefly in adulthood [145]. Phytoestrogen intake can also affect behavior in non-human primates. Male cynomolgus monkeys fed soy protein isolate containing 1.88 mg isoflavones/g protein over 18 months demonstrated higher frequencies of intense aggressive (67% higher) and submissive (203% higher) behaviors as well as a decreased proportion of time (68% reduction) spent in physical contact with other monkeys [260].

Not all phytoestrogens are equal and

>Notably, however, a handful of studies have found no impact of isoflavones on female hormone levels at all

Sounds like this test is not very thorough and controlled.

I don't know why people complain about soy when dairy milk is much worse

>rats

Does not translate to human being. Only sometimes useful.

7. Cons: evidence for endocrine disruption during development

A possibility of increasing concern is that phytoestrogens may interfere with the organizational role of estrogen in the developing brain and reproductive system (Fig. 1). Regardless of animal model used, manipulation of estrogen during specific critical windows of development throughout gestation and early infancy leads to a myriad of adverse health outcomes including malformations in the ovary, uterus, mammary gland and prostate, early puberty, reduced fertility, disrupted brain organization, and reproductive tract cancers [50,258,183,89,90,150]. These effects mirror some very disturbing public health trends in Western nations. For example, in the United States and Europe median age at menarche, first breast development, and sexual precocity has steadily advanced, especially among minority populations [91,98]. Similar trends have been documented among children adopted from developing countries by Western parents [9]. There are also indications that female fecundity is declining, even among young women, although the rate and degree to which this is occurring has been difficult to quantify. Among men, sperm counts in the United States and Europe appear to have declined by roughly half over the past 50 years [270]. In Demark, it is now estimated that more than 10% of men have sperm counts in the infertile range and up to 30% are in the subfertile range [121]. Rates of testicular cancer also appear to be increasing. Another study showed that infant boys born to vegetarian mothers had increased incidence of hypospadias (malformation of the male external genitalia) [186] suggesting that dietary components (perhaps phytoestrogens) cross the placenta and cause adverse effects on the developing fetus.

youtube.com/watch?v=osAJOlSFdEo

It is recommended that soy should intake should only be between 3 and 5 servings a day. It too, like many other things, is best in moderation.

It IS popular with the faggots,
however, I do know that the main reason
I muyself stay away from it is that 95% of
all soy in the world today is GMO.

see
Also, fuck you. I'm taking choice parts from the article that your lazy ass can't be arsed to fucking read yourself, otherwise you would have saw the bit on the primates already you faggot.

Sounds like you're taking one detail and conflating it to try and wave away something that doesn't fit with your current confirmation bias...

what is "jersey" milk?

especially if i buy it here on teh west coast of the US, where there is no "jersey" nearby?

Soy also fucks your thyroid up and causes weight gain

More than that, some of the plants added into beer are not for taste; its to increase estrogen count.

Sometimes there is soy in bread too, read those ingredients lists!

It's interesting that you two say that...

An apparent lack of notable long term effects is one reason why so many consumers, clinicians and public health agencies consider regular use of soy formula to be safe, even beneficial. This near absence of documented effects in soy-fed infants is not entirely reassuring, however, because although soy infant formula has been widely available for more than four decades, surprisingly little work has been done regarding its potential long term effects on reproduction, fertility or behavior. Historically, epidemiological studies have mainly focused on nutritional status, growth parameters, and impacts on the thyroid system because soy has long been recognized to induce hypothyroidism and goiter when not counteracted with elevated iodine intake [43,57]. Very few have explored the possibility that soy formula use can impact reproductive development or function and those which have, are hampered by insufficient sample sizes and the absence of appropriately sensitive measures. The task is not easy because, as with many endocrine disrupting compounds, isoflavone effects, if present, may not manifest for years, even decades, and are likely mild enough to escape clinical detection.

Soy sauce should be ok because it is fermented (as far as I know)

Soy that is not tofu/soy sauce will mess you up though.