Ok, so Russia and China couldn't take on the U.S.A. alone, but what are their chances if they did a combined assault? If they could get boots on the ground in the continental U.S., I think they could have a good chance just via sheer numbers. Plus North Korea would definitely chime in with what they could.
>b-but everyone in the U.S. has a gun!
for every 10 gun owners, only about 4 actively go to a shooting range and know proper maintenance. Only 2 would be doomsday prepper-tier enough to have tons of ammo stockpiled to last the whole war. As others have said before the american infrastructure is pretty flimsy at this point, so the average citizen would NOT be coordinated at all, unlike the enemy. I'd expect a shit ton of other countries to take advantage of the chaos as well (plus other threats like the muslim refugees who got into canada and the ones that got in before the travel bans).
Thoughts? I think this is the only way the U.S. could ever fall.
u.s. wouldn't stand a chance against china and russia combined
Matthew Gutierrez
well that was a fast thread I guess.
Benjamin Scott
>block the oil
& wait... done
Target power grid, and it'd be chaos very quick
Leo Jenkins
>If they could get boots on the ground That's the real problem isn't it. That is literally a near impossibility. America has 24 hour aerial surveillance, nuclear subs and satellites scouring the oceans etc. The only way would be the EMP strike they have been fearmongering, which is more of a meme than a reality. EMP would not disable our subs, which could still launch nukes in a tactical fashion, destroying convoys of incoming transports and warships. Our military has spent billions of dollars preparing for that scenario alone.
Kayden Rivera
>russians have experience forces, with reliable yet outdated tech.
China has no experience, and russian knockoff gear. All they do well is human wave attacks to have you run out of ammo.
Adrian Brown
Just cut off our internets and we'll surrender withing days.
Michael Garcia
If the Chinese have a half a brain (which they do) they won't rock the boat. They're too invested in the current system to destroy it. Russia is too poor to sustain a long term occupation, Iraq, Afghanistan style as for China they're too big to do it effectively (ie lose it all after a few years).
As for >invading America Nuke Yellowstone, take out California and Washington, enact systematic genocide on the survivors. Anyone big enough to take out the USA doesn't have to worry about international norms and conventions.
Kayden Hill
Nope, no country will ever take any main land. It would turn into geurilla warfare with 100,000,000 gun owners. There would be no ammo shortage as there are hundreds of millions of rounds and weapons stockpiled. Any wars between us will be proxy wars, like Syria.
Samuel Lopez
china can't do shit even with russia's help. they are already a defeated people. russia is broke as fuck. us civilians could repel the attack alone.
Cameron Gutierrez
Of course anyone who wants to weaken the USA isn't going to attack it head on.
There are far more effective ways to do that, such as immigration, Communism, anti-intellectualism, consumerist deficit spending, fiat currencies so and so on.
Hudson Parker
even if they did get boots on the ground, they wouldn't stand a chance against our 2nd amendment exercising citizens.
Juan Turner
again, you overestimate the ability of the citizens. do you think shooting guns is as easy as in the movies? and everyone will be john wick?
Ryder Turner
There's no need in land invasion of US. The only goal in such war will be total destruction of US.
Gabriel Harris
surely the land is more useful if it isn't a nuclear wasteland
Ian Thompson
They would need to crash the economy and then cut the power and tie up the US military in a well backed "peaceful rebel" civil war
>If they could get boots on the ground in the continental U.S. Even if they did manage to just sail past the largest navy in the world it would be a logistical nightmare Good luck getting all the supplies you need across the Atlantic/Pacific, unloading them on destroyed docks, and getting them to the front when a hostile population with the highest gun ownership per capita is in your rear
Jeremiah Martinez
Well the enemy already has boots on ground. Dont you have muslim refugees?
Leo Perry
they don't have the transport, seafaring or refuelling assets necessary to get across the pacific
they don't have the actual numbers to occupy us, either.
Noah White
If Russia and China could get through the U.S military, the U.S is fucked.
I'm sorry America, but your combined civilian defence force consisting of autistic virgins, social justice warriors, inbred retards, dindus and tacos aren't going to be enough no matter how many guns you own.
Besides >daily reminder Russia is actually the good guy under Putin
Michael Baker
>No way to get their troops across the world All those fuckers could do is clean out our useful idiots and force most of us underground/innawoods
They don't have enough aircraft carriers or troop transport ships to get their forces on American soil. We've been sending the biggest army in human history across the entire world conquering nations for almost 100 years. Yes we do it better than Russia or China.
Russia is only effectively able to defend Syria because they have such short, ground based supply lines from their nation to their bases in Syria
Julian Rivera
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Jaxson Evans
Economic damage would greatly outweigh anything they could inflict with their weakass force projection.
Jacob Hall
Minus nuclear weapons?
The United states could with stand every other countries military all at once. Our navy and air force are untouchable.
With nuclear weapons?
A giant mess. I can't wait until the US has a star fleet in 45 years. Warhammer 40k inc.
You don't understand what it takes to occupy a nation. The US can be turned into an underground wasteland, but you cannot conquer it by force. Their would be non-stop resistance for multiple generations from every state.
The US can only be conquered with the consent of its people. That's a blessing and a curse because we also can't be drafted for the wrong war without resisting.
The reason every intelligence agency on earth is studying Sup Forums's meme magic is because PUBLIC OPINION(PERCEPTION) MATTERS MORE THAN YOU THINK
WAR IS ABOUT BLUFFING AND HOPING YOUR OPPONENT DOESNT CATCH YOU WHILE YOU AVOID CALLING HIS BLUFF AT THE WRONG TIME
THE US BEING WELL ARMED AND DECENTLY TRAINED IS NOT A LIKELY BLUFF
Even California sells these after the ban. Their only serious disadvantage is comfort and mag capacity. You can even put a muzzle brake on it
Austin Anderson
>ery 10 gun owners, only about 4 actively go to a shooting range and know proper maintenance. Only 2 would be doomsday prepper-tier enough to have tons of ammo stockpiled to last the whole war. As others have said before the american infrastructure is pretty flimsy at this point, so the average citizen would NOT be coordinated at all, unlike the enemy. I'd expect a shit ton of other countries to take advantage of the chaos as well (plus other threats like the muslim refugees who got into canada and the ones that got in before the travel bans). Says the Brit that lost the revolutionary war.
Yeah . . . go ahread and try again. This is the same thought you had 200 years ago.
russia is a meme that can't even take ukraine. china is an even bigger meme that is scared of the philippine navy.
Noah Morgan
literally the exact same thing kek
John Cox
You cut their supply lines and they don't have shit.
Carter Thomas
Hideous
Fucking liberals and their bullshit laws
Landon Anderson
Dont you burgers have submarines and the biggest navy? How would they even transport those boots? China never won a war.
Jordan Robinson
We would EASILY defeat them both. The US is the only country on Earth that can logically project force across oceans. You are fucking wrong.
Landon Brown
Russia right away would take Canada and mobilize 3 million chinese soldiers and a million Russian soldiers along the biggest, unprotected border in the world.
The US would quickly run through their 1.5 million soldiers and dip into draftable men for ground combat among civilians would consist of:
>12% black men, most of which hate their country >a third Mexican men who have no nationalism and abandoned their own home country for greener pastures, if mexico is involved a lot of these soldiers would rebel >two thirds are overweight, a third are obese and unfit to fight >no nationalism except in the deep south, polls show only 48% of American men would consider fighting for their country
Christian Myers
> that can't even take ukraine Russia doesn't need whole Ukraine. Even DNR/LNR is useless.
Connor Wood
Holy shit mexicans are stupid
Xavier Rodriguez
Why invade when you can conquer by diversity
Ryder Sanchez
If there is one country in the world that doe not wants a war, specially a war with US, it's China. Reason: war is bad for business. An economically stable US is in favor of China. Without the US who will buy crape loads of cheap shit? How are they going to get all that money back that they gave to the US?
Daniel Hernandez
>We would EASILY defeat them both
t. lost to rice farmers in vietnam
Grayson Gomez
/thread
Christopher Stewart
That "logically project force across oceans" thing has been working great against the taliban huh?
Cooper Jackson
lost to rice farmers being backed by the vietcong and having the home advantage and using guerrilla warfare.
Lucas Wilson
Russia and China vs. USA? The world would not survive such a conflict, quite literally. It would usher in the end of organic life on this planet.
Leo Rivera
This. That argument is so flawed.
Isaiah Fisher
can someone give me a link to info on the statues?
honestly never seen them before, but they are magnificent.
Isaiah Jackson
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Ryan Hall
>russia + china
that's cute. try the entire world vs US and it might actually be fair
Joshua Reed
They can both easily take the US alone.
All China needs to do is call in the debt, your economy would be so fucked you wouldn't be able to sustain your army anymore. China plays the long game.
Russia has enough nukes to annihilate you and the rest of the world, including itself, 10 times over.
These dumb questions of invasion have become mere retarded fantasies in the modern age.
Jace Allen
The first enemy to get massacred in your scenario aren't the invaders.
The first people to get massacred would be liberals.
Colton Hughes
we only care about the opium you daft paki
Connor Sanchez
>If they could get boots on the ground in the continental U.S Yep, found the problem in your plan right there you dumb faggot.
You've heard of the US Navy right? Largest navy in the world? Also has the second largest air force in the world?
Yeah, their entire job is to prevent that shit, not to mention that neither of the listed countries have enough boats to even carry the troops and supplies that they would need, not even considering these boats being armed/escorted (they would not be).
Mason Walker
Denial won't help you.
Jeremiah Nelson
Literally all it does is cost money and waste time/effort for those who follow the law
The ammo ban coming up will kill small businesses though. Idk how they got that shit passed. Who can survive on 50 rounds a month(plus background check, waiting period and fee)?
Jason Anderson
nevermind, the statue itself is titled, "the Motherland Calls" read on anons
Ayden Brown
No, he's correct. Mexicans on average have low intelligence. It's scientific fact, Jose.
Zachary Myers
Not to mention the war lost popularity due to lefties and hippies. I bet your grandparents spit on the soldiers that came home you fucking traitor
Tyler Cook
>but what are their chances if they did a combined assault?
They could probably take us, but then the USA would go full Samson Option and destroy all of human life in both countries, which in turn would end human life as we know it.
Oliver Williams
>can't win against cavemen >"we don't wanna win, we only care about the opium"
Leo Walker
Simply call in the debt and begin to take away allies from the U.S. in terms of trade. The U.S. is on the verge of civil war, destabilising their economy will push them over the edge. When their country is in shambles, that's when you swoop in. You can speed up the process by backing different factions and arming them with weapons, including wmds.
Wyatt Cook
Those sure are some great sources you provided OP
Mason Turner
>Ok, so Russia and China couldn't take on the U.S.A. alone I have bad news for you user
William Ross
2 Timothy 4:4-6New Living Translation (NLT)
4They will reject the truth and chase after myths.
5But you should keep a clear mind in every situation. Don’t be afraid of suffering for the Lord. Work at telling others the Good News, and fully carry out the ministry God has given you.
6As for me, my life has already been poured out as an offering to God. The time of my death is near
Connor Perez
>wow look russia made a giant unconventional weapon >russia wins
Anthony Lee
>just call in the debt.
you'd be failing to understand a few basic principals of the debt:
first: the debt itself is denominated in dollars if we ever were against the ropes we could hypothetically print a 1-10 trillion dollar valued coin and pay it with that(has to be a coin, bills have a specific limit)
second: that's just not how debt works, if it was the banks simply would have taken their money back from the troubled loans.
third and most crucially: it's not like china leant the money in good faith, china has lots of liquid cash and US bonds are the surest bet to have money tomorrow, usually with an incredibly small amount of interest, if you can wrap your head around it there were people buying US bonds at a loss during the financial crisis just to have something guaranteed to be there tomorrow.
china plans its economy 30 years into the future, and their US denominated currency and bonds are its golden egg. if china "called in their debt" and we felt inclined to pay it, they will have eliminated trillions in value from their own bank account, everything they've worked for since the 90's, all the land toxified beyond occupation will have all been for nothing. they would have trillions of dollars and be no wealthier than india.
Jordan Sanders
If only you were governing Pak instead of Nawaz, what's your take on the terrorism in your country? How efficient is your government in tackling it? Are you ever gonna come out of it and be stable progressive country with the help of Chinks?
Ayden Gomez
>I think this is the only way the U.S. could ever fall. we will never fall.
Noah Jones
>Small bombs are weaker than bigger bombs wow, you must be fucking a genius.
Nathaniel Adams
All you need to defeat the US is to create enough internal chaos and wait for the citizens to tear themselves apart.
Parker Fisher
Thanks I know i am :)
Daniel Sullivan
Another example of how Americans completely don't understand world politics.
Austin Perry
it's called destabilization pea brain, that's why the middle east is our heavy weapons test bed and none of the shit we dish out ever comes back to us. (except that one time)
Daniel Sanders
Pack it up boys. You can't defeat these arguments.
Leo Watson
Dont forget 40% of US population is hispanic and blacks who would loot and kill as soon as a war starts.
Colton Rogers
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Nicholas Carter
so you're saying Saudi Arabia would win against the UK because they spend more money
Luis Hernandez
>what's your take on the terrorism in your country? Depends on what you defines as "terrorism". Our supporting for the Afghan Taliban? Strongly against that. We have wasted too much time and money on Afghans (the most useless people on the plant). Build a wall(army already doing that) and kick them out of the country(army already doing that), and instead of supporting the Taliban we should get Russia involved (ISI already doing that).
Our supporting for the Khasmiris? Strongly in favour of that. (sorry kumar)
>How efficient is your government in tackling it Not that bad actually
>Are you ever gonna come out of it and be stable progressive country with the help of Chinks? Stable? Yes. Progressive? lol.
Justin Sullivan
russias military is strong an unified. chinas is not. each branch of the chinese military is a separate force and they dont like to share power with the other factions. if their army commander didnt want to play, all they would have is airforce and navy.
Thomas Hughes
If there was ever a foreign war on American soil, the people would put up one hell of a fight. Most have no military training but there are a lot of guns in America, and there are also millions and millions of people who are just itching to shoot at shitskins and foreigners of any color. The only way a foreign entity would ever be able to take over America would be to just start nuking everyone, but then what would they have? They'd have possession of a nuclear wasteland. Not really worth it
Aiden Gonzalez
>"we spend $2.4 trillion on a war to test weapons" You are a dump ass faggot aren't you?
Jason Cruz
don't you have a relative to fuck, don't ever talk back to me you inbred shit
Logan Smith
anyone else ever see shit so retarded that you just dont even know what to say?
Owen Clark
I'm not from Alabama.
Thomas Baker
>ignoring the BBC (Big British Carrier)
Grayson Baker
>Ok, so Russia and China couldn't take on the U.S.A. alone, but what are their chances if they did a combined assault? We couldn't because of the fleet and two oceans separating us. Considering your industrial complex is sitting on the shores you'd be so fucked in case of real invasion.
Ian Myers
calm down, the inbreeding is what makes you impulsive and shitty
They'll be lucky to have "enough planes to fill the runway" on that thing.
Leo Morris
We never really lost that many guys, just pulled out because people didn't like fighting someone else's war. Check out Russian and Afghanistan, you can't win a war against partisans unless you are willing to kill off citys and or they like you. For instance we annihilated ghadaffis army in a matter of days, but we still can't wrap up insurgent terrorism.
Ethan Ortiz
What are you suppose to do when you have hot cousins? Let someone else fuck them? Not on my watch. Don't worry about me my fat diabetic friend. Worry about mommy getting a black boy friend.
Dylan Brooks
you're not supposed to fuck your cousins at a 50% rate, that's why you're all googly eyed and half tarded.
Blake Evans
The Chinese have never lead an invasion. They predate Christ by about 10,000 years
Tyler Harris
Better then having heart disease, diabetes and autism.
Luke Williams
Now, assuming no participants use nukes, and no other US allies get involved, >US has massive advantages in naval and air superiority >And better equipment Frankly I'd be surprised if they even get boots on US soil. Some coastal cities might be bombed but that's about it. Their only advantage is in numbers and that means jack shit if they can't actually make it to the US If this whole mess really happened NATO would be obligated to back the US up so that'd go real well.
Dominic Powell
>coordinated like the enemy Two completely seperate militaries who speak different languages and have laughable logistics launching a joint attack across the ocean on what is one of the most absurd places to invade geographically.
Lincoln Lewis
And how the fuck are China and Russia supposed to get an invasion force large enough onto US soil even? There is no way China or Russia could mass an invasion force strong enough as it would be sunk on the Atlantic and Pacific ocean before they even have made it halfway accross the damn sea.
Ethan Nguyen
shush little inbred, go back to your toys
Caleb Nelson
damn great comebacks pakibro
Justin Powell
Learn how to banter or get off this website faggot.
Connor Rogers
they couldn't get anybody over here. our navy is like the brits in the 17-1800s in it's dominance. nothing is impossible, but the likelihood of enemy soldiers entering the continental USA is next to nil