Don' visit Croatia!

Don't visit Croatia in the summer. It's a beautiful country with countless natural wonders and clean beaches, but we don't deserve it. Our politicians are more crooked than a spiral staircase, the restaurant, shop and hotel owners on our coast dont pay taxes, our cab drivers will take you for a ride literally and figuratively, the employers in tourism treat their workers so badly that we have to import cheap labour from Albania and Bosnia, our young smart people are all moving out to Ireland and other parts of northern Europe so you'll only encounter brainless scum on the streets and the tourism is destroying us. Please don't come.

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Man last time I was in Croatia taxi drivers started the meter at 40 hrk which is almost like seven USD. Fucking literal criminals.

are you a homosexual by any chance?

Wasn't going to do it anyway.

i hope that he comes back and fixes the situation which we caused

What's with the chessboard on your flag

was in croatia 2 years ago, good food but people looked depressed as fuck

I hope he burns periodically in all circles of hell because I fucking hate communism.
No, go look for a fuckbuddy somewhere else and send me your sister
Our taxi drivers have their own mafia, almost no one sane uses croatian taxis except maybe Cammeo and Uber.
Thank god.

What did you make of the swastikas?

>chessboard
So other people can see that we like getting walked on
You should have stayed a bit longer, you would also receive delicious knuckle sandwiches from our local idiota because you 'might look a bit too foreign to them'

havent seen any

we were a lot better off then than now and you know it

Lovely country desu, lots of beautiful little towns, clean beaches, crystal clear water, etc. Only problem is lots of Brits know about it now and it's pretty cheap, so every summer you'll probably have to put up with us drinking all your booze and pissing in your streets.

Ill come to Croatia and kick your crocop looking asses faggot

and then bang your mom and little sister

Most american jews refuse to visit Croatia when they go on Euro tours they consider it literally Hitler the country for whatever reason.

i dont know about that really. even if the country is shitty, tourism is keeping us alive.
and our coast really is beautiful.
come to dubrovnik everybody, its a great fucking place for summer vacation, beaches bitches and alcohol (drugs are also easy to find).

stayed there for like 3 days. Got to the Rejike aiport, visited some random church and the city itself, stayed in Opatija 'n visited your well known national part.
Everything is considerably cheaper there than here, people seemed to have a simple life.

It can be so, so much worse. Look at our coast. We used to be like you 6-7 years ago. We shat on it relentlessly. Now it's just a fucking human garbage dump.

Appreciate what you have. I know that's not very Balkan, but try at least.

You were maybe, because BiH doesnt even compare to Croatia with your coal mines and cheap stupid gastarbeiter masons. We have great potential, or at least, had it until our governments of the last 20 yeara fucked everything up
Youre welcome to do so.
More tourists with money = higher prices and 'elite tourism'. More 'elite tourism' = less any other kind of tourists and visitors. And after that we only need one bad year to destroy our shitty economy based on ultra expensive tourism for foreign idiots and absolutely no domestic guests

Totally agree,in spain the money is treated like free mana so instead of it being wisely invested it basically pays for gibmedats on massive scale so the people, shut up and vote while they steal half the money,if we had responsible governments it would be a blessing as it is it only benefits hotel owners and commies (tourism is to us like oil is to venezuela)
If we had some nowegian like leaders we could make a huge profit instead I have to see how the money is thought of as literal mana that will never end when in a few snack bars it would plus it fucks the locals to the point only shitskins live in touristic areas anyways

you're fault for paying taxes

american jews =/= israeli jews

Yeah I know but assuming Israeli jews would have a similar attitude isn't exactly a shot in the dark.

Look at the pics first in the Hungarian version, because we like to remind the Croats who owned them for 800 years, then read the English version.

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Croatia is nice but the beaches are too rocky. I'll take a sandy Caribbean beach any day.

>we were better with non-functioning economy and surviving on gibs from the US with an authoritarian ruler

fuck right off

Really? Where were you?
Because Croatia had "camps" in the 40s, last country before Germany to capitulate, a lot of symbols from that time resurfaced in the 90s war.
People mostly don't like jews and multiculturalism.

Dude. Like 10% of your GDP is from tourism. I don't think it's exactly a good idea to want to get rid of that much income.

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>Because Croatia had "camps" in the 40s, last country before Germany to capitulate, a lot of symbols from that time resurfaced in the 90s war.
>People mostly don't like jews and multiculturalism.
Some Ustasha had literal Jewish roots (kvaternik) and there's persistent rumors much of the higher ups were married to jews themselves though top kek

this croat is butthurt of this thread... so he made this one...

If it was invested wisely it wouldn't but I'm sure if it's spent like in my country it is,not only does it make you dependent af from outside,it also makes you have to be politically piss scared of any racism (if blacks decide to sell illegally a d police arrest them and nigga get uppity and you end up hitting niggers,with so many retarded tourists I'm sure your gov will end up apologising and having their shit pushed up their ass.
Basically if you use that money to build you economy and make you more independent,it's a blessing if it becomes a Venezuelan oil mana it's a nightmare.

From what I had read I though Tito was actually quite talented leader, but his successors before the collapse made a lot of mistakes. Thoughts?

Talented in what way?

He killed thousands, to rebuild the country he used "community works" and kept it for the state. The privileged class was his party, his political opponents were jailed.
The only thing keeping the economy afloat were the massive gibs from the US to keep it from joining the Warsaw pact.

He purposely mixed the populations of the regions (Albanians to Kosovo, Serbs to Croatia) and tried to create a new ethnicity "yugoslav" which resulted in the bloodbath that was the 90s war.

His successor's were a council, there was no dictator after him. When the gibs stopped, economy collapsed.

Its so weird coming to Croatia
Because the Croatians I know who live here are all hardworking loyal and generally based. So I expected a country full of you guys to be an utopia.

Its still beautiful but your people were underwhelming. Maybe you are right about the west taking all your talent away.

Уби Хpвaтa дa Шиптap нeмa бpaтa.

So much this.
Therr never was a yugoslavian culture because there never was a yugoslav people.
Why would you lie like that on the internet?
And its becoming 12, 15, 20 procent and more. But the problem is that there are little to none state mechanisms for taxation of tourism and more and more entrepeneurs in tourism go dark and make shitloads of money while at the same time getting money from the state and a lot of tax benefits. And when that bubble bursts because it loses more in the long run than it brings in at the end kf summer, its gonna be Greece crysis 2: electrix boogaloo.

The west isnt taking our talent away, as much as young people with multiple diplomas (STEM field) dont want to stay working here for shitty wages while their bosses and corporation owners/politicians (see how I imply that our politicians are also big company owners?) abuse them and wonder why Croatia is going to shit

The braindrain is happening, but somewhat. I'd say that actual smart/capable people that stay/leave is 50/50.
The problem here is politics and economy. A nationalist-right party that upholds socialist economy and sells the country, and a social-leftist party that upholds socialist economy and damages the worker.
Croatia isn't capitalist, it's socialism and corporatism, the worst possible solution.

Mafia, corruption and bureaucracy are killing this country.

what region are you from?

Fuck off, you anarchocapitalist shill. I told you to fuck off in a previous thread and you didnt listen then.

Hey at least he didn't made you pay 200 HRK for a 1 Km drive.

Full Capitalism will lead your country being bought by Arabs and the EU, all those nice croatian Grandmas making money renting sobe on the coast will be replaced by large multinational conglomerates pocketing all the money, be careful what you wish for Hrvoje.

>was in croatia 2 years ago, good food but people looked depressed as fuck

Sky high taxes, a minimum wage calculated on a monthly basis (so you get paid the smae for 300 hours of work as you do with 200), high unemployment outside of the tourist season and overly large state administration, a war and the legacy of communism tend to do that to people.

We need a hardcore libretarian movement here.

Kvaternik was married to a daughter of a "person with jewish ancestry", he had no jewish ancestry. His son did, obviously.

I haven't heard of the others, (((persistent rumors))), but most of the higher ups have survived and their (grand)children live in S. America or the US.
Croatia didn't even have many jews, around 37k I think, most of them ran away. It's much less now.

Not a thing would make me happier than to see this shithole burn to the ground. Because I for one, have a backup plan if the proverbial shit hits the fan. But nothing would make me happier than to see all these lovely functioning retards we here call 'voters' get their paychecks, pensions and savings sliced in half, because they voted for either SDP or HDZ for the last 25 years, effectively turning 90% of the population into a lower working class.

whaat we need is to ban women in politics, they are absolute cancer

>Not a thing would make me happier than to see this shithole burn to the ground. Because I for one, have a backup plan if the proverbial shit hits the fan
kek, sounds like something a rootless cosmopolitan would say desu

Look at Western Europe and the usa. Is unrestricted neoliberalism and free market worship something you really desire for your homeland?

Sure. Also import immigrants and pay Gypsies even more welfare. Why dont we also raise the taxes from 25% to 50%? Because women in politics brought us to where we are now.

No, that's what's happening now in Croatia.
In capitalism, small businesses are the base of the economy. Our taxes crush small businesses in favor of foreign or party corporations.

Some of you guys are alright, don’t go to Dubrovnik tomorrow.

Yes, it is. Why do you think otherwise? We were systematically stupid for the last thousand years, we cant govern ourselves withou outside rule, the only logical step is to sell the ground beneath our feet for a pittance. Maybe then it will occur to people that something maaaaaayyyy be wrong.

Well hey, eugenics would solve the case. The entire ex yu space is filled with genetic waste in the form of villagers of all sorts and other lower class monkeys.

The war was shit because literal vermin climbed on top and the fair and just were punished.

My family is from Croatia. They have two nice homes there on the beach. I haven't been in 6 years due to crippling depression and the fact that my relatives will move me for my depression and weight the entire time I'm there. I wish I could get my shit together and visit again. My grandparents are about to die and I'm too depressed to visit them

Honestly I'd prefer any foreign company over local. I mean fucks sake, at least they care for profit and success and not giving jobs to their inbred families.

mock me* not move me

kek

when Zagreb and split transform into Ankara and Algiers you'll rue the day you wrote those words

lay off the mises.org and reassess just how good you actually have it

>rootless cosmopolitan
Back to the crypt with you, Iosef Visorionovich

Like the last fifty years of communism werent fifty years of systematically destroying the intelligentsia and middle class and leaving only stupified peasants? Come on, communism is the second worst thing that can happen. The 90s were a great time for even bigger crooks (tudjman, milosevic, izetbegovic) to float to the top and destroy us under the cover of 'muh independence'

Visiting relatives may help you also a change of climate. Mediteranean climate is pretty comfy.

We're in a real danger here.
In the middle of literal "rural retards" and leftists that worship EU and multiculturalism. Before I thought that in 20-ish years people might stop voting for HDZSDP when they die, but the future with "urban retards" doesn't look promising.

Well, I always held the view that 1995 was 1945 all over again: inbred mountain villagers stealing what intelligent people made and killing them.

At least the "communists" rule turned into soft fascism after the 60s so it was tolerable when compared to "muh collectivism" and "muh Stalin" in the 40/50s

When Zagreb and split transform into Ankara and Algiers, every not braindead Croat will be laughing from Germany, Ireland, Scandinavia or Switzerland

as soon as western Europe fails, we will be next

those countries won't exist for long

Sorry m8, already booked. See ya next month.

(((rootless cosmopolitan))) confirmed

Newsflash;
>neither will we

Kill yourself Commie pig!
Just so you know Sup Forums, these are Serbs living in Croatia making these kind of posts. They are basically our Mexicans.

I know, it's always the same everywhere. Industrialization moved too many inbreds into towns. Not to forget the wannabe neoliberals and lefties.

Tbh I'd vote for NHR, at least they are honest, or seem to be, while being right wing (all tho I fear the clerical influence)

Fix how?
He was given 43 billion dollars by Germany after WWII and couldn't even get past Bulgaria kek!

And this here is our village idiot

remember to spend money, fatso

this The only positive thing in all this is that most of the country is at least somewhat nationalistic and we're too poor for the goatfuckers.
As long as we group ourselves with V4, we'll live through it. I'm actually afraid what Plenkovic and Vrdoljak will do to our sovereignty.

>implying Sup Forums leaves their mothers basement

He was not talented, he was quite the contrary, see here:
also digits confirm.

Yeah, they are our Mexicans, because there are as many Serbs as Mexicans in Croatia today

im going to visit fuck you op

>Vrdoljak
Wasn't he replaced by that silly manlet?

As for Briselko, yeah, he is a fuckwit, at least Kolinda seems to be on the V4 track.

Stay in your own country

I want to but when I went as a fat kid all I got was
>Vi ste masti previše hamburgera
And
>Spavaš u dvorištu sa svinjama

Dont forget to leave a nigger to fuck your wife while you overpay for cheap chinese shrimp and the local finest bottled piss

See, he's not denying what I said. He couldn't, even if he wanted to.
In true Immigrant fashion he is refusing to adopt our culture and accept our history and language. Serbs be serbing.

the only thing I fear is a social liberation of our society, if that happens we will be screwed. I was unironically a liberal until 2008 and now I'm conservative as fuck

>he was not talented
As much as I hate communism, credit is due
>managed to slip Stalin's fingers
>convinced both US and USSR to finance him
>created a 3Rd bloc in the cold war
>made an irrelevant Balkan country de fact lead a bloc of ~2billion people
>was charismatic

Our Russian infiltrator overlord wasn't that bad

Name one croatian politician that isnt a total fuckwit.
>inb4 Pernar, Sincic
Im actually afraid to imagine a country ran by Zivi Zid, that thought makes my asshole clench in fear

Shouldv stayed with us bro.

Been saving all for months for this. Don't worry about it, ya europoor.

>Serbs
>in Croatia
lol what we got kicked out 20 years ago hence why I'm here . Thanks cr*ats!

Gonna visit you too homie.

You forgot;
>Created an elite class 'funkcioneri' whos offspring still rule the exYu countries in a good old commie fashion
>creates national debt for every country to have to repay for decades after independence
And many many more.

>Pernar, Sinčić
>implying I'd support a tinfoil antisemite fuckboi and the guy who won Eurovision for Portugal

I have nothing against Haso, at least he bashes the commies without being a clerical enabler.

>mfw still waiting for a Croatian conservative secular right

Tourism should be banned here for a while. Can we get some Achmed to blow himself up on some random beach?

I gotta be honest, 99% of tourists are pure zombie scum who litter around and spoil my day when I'm out riding on my motorcycle. They have no regard to our road signs, laws, they think they just arrived in some backstreet nowhereland, and they're extremely liberal-dumb faggots who ask stupid Angelina Jolie Bono Vox tier degen "save the world" questions about the wars here, without any actual interest in history. They just wanna hear their Colbert John Oliver trash while they're away from the TV.

Fuck tourists, fuck them and I hope they stop coming here. Leave us alone, cretin faggots.

Okay, we can keep discussing politics als long as we agree that Zivi Zid are ultra radical left that would eventually destroy everything that we care about, purely for shits and giggles.

I am not saying he was great, but what would you have wanted? Living under Peter and prime minister Mihajlović?

I only pity Lorković Vokić failing. Fuck's sake, Ante was going to let them coup him but in came the Germans with "we are going to win ze war with rockets"

I have heritage there with my parents being born in Zadar but I see myself as American far right can I come and visit anyway? I don't want to live there but I know the language.

>Our taxi drivers have their own mafia
its the same anywhere.

how do you think they launder money? you know some taxis charge 12eur per kilometer?

take a few rides from zagreb to the coast with an empty car and then proceeds to bill himself. it's simple really.

I'm interested in what Hasan and Esih will do. I don't find them competent in economic sense, but in a fight against neoliberals they're useful.

Most is a great chance for our economy, but they can't get even close to majority to solve any actual problems (counties). The facebook arrests started when Most lost the ministry, and remember that Orepic was deleting the dead from our voting base.

More like ultra liberals. At least they condemned Bleiburg and shit on SDP too, not like the real lefties which threaten to cut mommy Bruna's head off :(

Don't you guys like Hitler for freeing you though? That's a cool thing

What a fucking disgrace you are. Going on the internet and bitching about a country that raised you.

Quitter and losers, that's what you "we should leave" people are. I left for education, came back and opened my own web design studio. I earn more than enough for everything I need and I can walk with my head up fucking high.

I hate the politicians and mentality that we have but it is my duty as a citizen of this ancient proud country to stay here and do whatever I can to help out. Even if that means losing a ton of profit due to ridiculous taxes, if everyone left there would be no Croatia and I would rather die than let that happen.

Also stop bullshitting with the prices, yes they are high if you go to a tourist hotspot (which you shouldn't anyway). I live in a small coastal city and prices are absolutely fine.

Zlatko and Bruna are at least honest and have shown respect for their opponents. I mean, Bruna did talk rather nicely to miss literal Darkness Tarataš for not selling herself out.

Also, an interesting thing would be to watch what Stier would do. Ex-Karamarko ministers could support his flow, aside mister "I had no idea what Konzum was doing all tho I worked there"

T*to gave Croatia way better land and borders than Hitler did