>be measle
>Haven't fappid 3 days because busy.
>Decide the nofap buck stops here
>Really quickly google nofap, have heard before but curious again
>Reddit nigger says it teaches you simply discipline/self control
>Seemslegit.noStroke123
>Decide the nofap buck will stop over there
>Mfw next day is actually rather successful friend making day, talk to lots of girls with no hiccups.
It's not as if im super awkward, but I don't generally flow so well with girls, though it may be coincidence since I've obviously been trying for a while now. I think I cracked the code a while ago (filter marginally offensive aspects of Personality inversely proportional to closeness of relationship, then sub in gaps in person with situated verbal convention to create a comfortable medium of communication, with the convention of most countries including visibly befriending as many people as possible) but haven't been able to flawlessly execute it before. Now I have.
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no fap is a huge placebo effect, that makes you feel like you can talk to women better.
I masterbate ever day and have sex with my gf every other day just about.
Well done, OP.
Your on the road to recovery.
Good luck on finding a suitable mate.
Nofap just makes me more likely to talk to girls cuz I want to fuck them that's about it
Agreed, it's just a circle-jerk (literally) of reddit autists betas claiming to be "enlightened" or "the path to women". Most of these guys are basically elliot rodgers who think if you stop fapping you'll become a MGTOW god or something.
No, you just think that. When you're dealing with your own mind you need a little self awareness, women are very disinterested in needy or too forward guys and when you're being too forward it's easy to mistake that for doing well.
Fapping removes the sexual desperation from meeting girls, but it doesn't remove the loneliness so you're still behind.
BTW I didn't fap till I was 24. I know both sides of this story fairly well and know not fapping very likely contributed to my virginity because I was probably seeming needy without realising it. What's obvious here is when fat, ugly girls are telling people you're into her because this is how chaste men seem, they can't control that, no one can.
>yfw dating to millennial white girls requires 4d chess and complete life style changes
You know, without PUA, maybe women wouldn't think facing in your direction is a sign you're going to rape her?
You literally have to pretend you're not interested, this can mean outright bullying white girls who are average or above average (or truly above average non white girls), white girls all think they're 3 levels higher than what they are, as such 7/10s and higher only date super stars, real geniuses and models if these people don't have game (that being said, true genius would see social skills like a sort of skill and practice at it).
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>no fap is a huge placebo effect, that makes you feel like you can talk to women better.
I agree with you guys, NoFap is just a huge placebo effect. This is why men need to be educated on the real harmful effects of pornography and masturbation addiction. Did you know that PMO-addiction (porn-masturbation-orgasm) addiction triggers real changes in your brain that mimics other types of hardcore addiction? There are academic and medical scientific journals that prove clear brain changes. PMO-addiction is a real problem, and there is hope for all men to recover from their PMO-addiction
you cant stop fapping if dont have a gf to bang
no one in their right mind would take advice on girls from someone who willingly admits they were a virgin at the age of 24. Hell it could've been longer.. you don't specify...
Her is a tip: masturbating or not masturbating doesn't mean shit.If you want to quit, get a job and do something productive after work. You'll be too tired to beat your meat
Take the BBC vernacular pill. You have to use BBC vernacular like based and nigga online and irl. Text your family happy based 4th of a July nigga!
>T. Dr. Schlomo Goldstein
Yes! Good goy! Keep jacking off and lowering your test count! Soon your women will inevitably turn to the superior high-test BBC!
Theres nothing wrong with fapping dude just calm down and try to fap once a week.
The real issue is hardcore porn, its essentially cuckoldry.
Softcore and ecchi is fine.
>you cant stop fapping if dont have a gf to bang
False. I abstained from pornography and masturbation. Your body has a natural mechanism called nocturnal emission. Masturbation is artificial stimulation, and if you need to masturbate, then by-definition you have MO-addiction (masturbation-orgasm addiction).
The good news is this is completely reversible but it takes time. You need to reboot your brain and go through a withdrawal period of at least 90 days (lasts usually 100+ days) in order to regrow your dopamine receptors and restore your brain back to your natural balance.
>implying you don't jerk off occasionally
It's an issue if you fap 20 times a day.
Not placebo at all, because even thinking it might be a placebo doesn't stop the energy that you gain from nofap. More energy means you want to go out more and do more things, instead of being a lazy shit and rushing back to the computer every time you get the chance. Also, nobody who actually has a girlfriend says "and have sex with my gf". Stop kidding yourself you ugly piece of shit
Keep it up OP, I have gone on and off for years now and know that it does bring gain to your life. Whether you start talking to more people, working harder, deciding to uptake more old personal goals to improve certain skills - it all comes easily when you stop masturbating for a while. It's your dick that then starts wanting to convince you that it's doing nothing just so that you give in to the primal instinct, but then after you have masturbated to tranny shit and are holding your flaccid dick in your hands you realize it really does make you lazier.
this doesn t happen to me . i still don t talk to girls .
My genetics will be bred out and I will die the true death if I continued chastity, I need a girlfriend bro and if I need to offend your idea of morality to do it then I will.
Being horny will ensure you'll never get laid even by fat, ugly chicks. Even fat, ugly non white chicks don't want needy guys.
You're a dumb cunt if you think getting a job always works.
Take my advice or don't, I swear on whatever God you do or don't believe in that being too forward will in the best of cases repulse her and in the worst of cases mean a sexual harassment claim.
Guys, fap intelligently. If you abstain for a week and notice you're staring too hard or are too horny, you'd rather be a wanker than a sleeze any fucking day.
Obviously.
My sweet spot as a high test male is 4/5 times a week, any more seems to not be great and leaves me passionless and more nihilistic.
>Nofap just makes me more likely to talk to girls cuz I want to fuck them that's about it
Most likely you are going through a withdrawal period. This will last at least 90 days. I had go through two sets of 100+ days of PMO abstantian. Don't worry, you won't be as horny or hypersensitive once you successfully reboot because I've been PMO-free for a few years now.
>You literally have to pretend you're not interested
No, you just need to surround yourself with surplus. It's only pretend if you can't achieve the interest of several women at once. Having that ability indicates to women that you are a desired man with good attributes. Therefore, women subconsciously use your clinginess or obsession as a indication of your other prospects.
I remember starting something with one girl and getting involved with another. I really didn't have time to talk with the other girl at all in any capacity. A week on and she started sending me videos of her masturbating. I wasn't pretending to not be interested, I just had other options. This is what it's like to be a woman anyway (lots of options) which is why lesser males think woman are sending """mixed signals""". All of this is just confusion about real prospects.
If you REALLY can't get more than one girl interested, then fake it. But it's really hard to slip into clinginess when you are optionless. Remember that she probably will have options.
No Fap does not work you fucking retard. Any benefits you get are temporary and you don't seem to realize that the body does not care if its cumming in a pussy, in an ass, or into your mother's pantyhose.
The better route is to learn moderation. Instead of fapping 6 times a day, fap once a day. Roll that back to once every few days. Then roll it back to once a week or so.
That is where real character is build and willpower is generated. By picking up no-fap you are entering a contest that you cannot win. As soon as you have your first wet dream its back to square one.
*****But it's really hard not to slip into clinginess when you are optionless.
>The better route is to learn moderation. Instead of fapping 6 times a day, fap once a day.
Incorrect. You don't need to watch pornography or masturbate at all. PMO binging is not the same as PMO addiction. You can still be PMO-addicted, but still not watch a lot of porn or masturbate a lot. If you need to watch porn or masturbate, then by-definition, you are addicted. I haven't masturbated in a few years now. This is because your body has a natural mechanism called nocturnal emissions.
You are right in that NoFap is just placebo, what they are feeling are the withdrawal symptoms and mistaking that as "superpowers." You don't gain any superpowers, you are simply healing and restoring your brain and you need to successfully reboot your brain which takes at least 90 days.
Enjoy the ass cancer
>Being horny will ensure you'll never get laid even by fat, ugly chicks. Even fat, ugly non white chicks don't want needy guys.
I've haven't watched porn nor masturbated for a few years now, and I don't experience this problem. In fact, it was when I was addicted to porn and masturbation that I never had a girlfriend. Why keep doing things that you know is hurting you? Science has proven this:
Studies linking porn use or porn/sex addiction to sexual dysfunctions, lower arousal, and lower sexual & relationship satisfaction: yourbrainonporn.com
Wrong, the study that supposedly claims not masturbating causes prostate cancer is only true for men over 50 years old. Plus there were other flaws in the study that did not show a SIGNIFICANT increase in prostate cancer in young men. In fact, young men who masturbate frequenlty may face greater risk because it puts your body into hyperdrive.
In fact, PMO-addiction just like heroin-addiction or any other addiction causes a whole host of problems, many of which may go un-noticed in the host. Many men who have PMO-addiction have clinical mild depression, ED-problems, and HOCD or altered sexual tastes as they deviate further into their porn addiction. This has all been scientifically proven:
he results of these 34 neurological studies (and upcoming studies) are consistent with 220+ Internet addiction "brain studies", many of which also include internet porn use. yourbrainonporn.com
>4/5 times a week
That's everyday Bro
A good handbook (hehe) or guideline:
If one is around 20 years old - every 4+ days
if one is 30+ every 14+ days
So one day a year in prime-gfLess-bachelor-frog-life.
You need to completely reboot your brain (at least 90 days). Also the end goal here isn't 'women' the end goal is for your own personal health and sanity.
Op here,
Never had a wet dream, I don't see that as a possibility. And nofap is definitely a doable thing. I'm not suggesting celibacy, but a good monogamous relationship is healthy for the mind (read Jung's take on homosexuality to see why). That said, I will continue the no fap, ain't got nothing to lose and I could totally see it triggering some evolutionary shit we don't yet understand.
>the mask is off
>insert pejorative about homos based on muh pyramidal hierarchy of needs
Go away
>Theres nothing wrong with fapping dude just calm down and try to fap once a week.
No it's not fine, plus PMO-addiction does not equal PMO-binging. Just because you don't binge on porn and masturbation, doesn't mean you're not addicted to it. If you need to watch porn or masturbate, then you are by-definition addicted. Now certaintly this is better than getting more sucked up into your addiction, but you can do better. Your body has a natural mechanism called nocturnal emission. I haven't watched porn nor masturbated in a few years and I'm completely doing fine. You can too, but it does take time and discipline. Learn more by watching this YouTube vid: youtube.com
>Any benefits you get are temporary and you don't seem to realize that the body does not care if its cumming in a pussy, in an ass, or into your mother's pantyhose.
Yes you are losing your lifeforce whether you fap or have sex. Buddhists knew about this and that's why they abstain. Sex and fapping is for weak willed faggots who lose valuable nutrients and lifeforce. I'm almost to the point of wizardhood.
Don't look at porn; don't jack off; pleasure is the job for women.
Natural sex is okay because you are only doing it with one woman. This is what makes online pornography so different, because it abuses the Coolidge effect since every guy has a harem of infinite size, except all the women are virtual.
That's maslow you fucking uneducated nigger whore. Gtfo, psychology is a fucking dope and necessary study for a healthy mind.
I agree
>Though sometimes, especially when hangover (might happen 2-3 times a year) the morningwood+sexy dreams just needs a stroke.
You were so busy being retarded that you failed to understand that the physical body sees no difference between cumming in a puss or cumming in a hand. This is why most men (black men in particular who are more prone to base instincts) can just pump and dump with no problem and still have high testosterone. And having wet dreams is normal.
Most people don't "need" to watch porn or masturbate. Most people "want" to watch porn or masturbate. An addiction cannot be defined as simply as the "want" to do something or the compulsion to do something. I "want" to sleep right now. It does not mean i am "addicted" to sleep.
What you are describing is a "habit" not an addition. Something cannot be categorized as an addition unless seeking it leads to negative physical or psychological repercussions for yourself or your love ones.
>you need to successfully reboot your brain
Take that pseudo scientific bullshit elsewhere user. Brains are not some computer that can be reset. And it only takes about 21 days for a habit (read: a new equilibrium) to be form.
The reason why people feel awful immediately after cumming is due to the imbalance of dopamine and oxytocin.
The oxytocin is what makes men feel disgusted with themselves after sex. Men who are weak willed will naturally shy away from this feeling. men who are not will get used to this feeling and understand that what they thought was "disgust" is actually pure satisfaction that is so explicit that it makes some men feel disgusted by it. The drop in dopamine from the spike you got causes you to feel dis-satisfied and is what usually leads men to want to have sex again (read: increase the chance that fertilization takes place).
Most men do not experience the gains that some men get from noFap because most men don't build their life around getting off and as such any gains or losses from fapping / not fapping are overridden.
>What is Homeostasis?
>Why do trans people report being no happier after transitions?
>Take that pseudo scientific bullshit elsewhere user
These are scientific medical studies that account for p-value and statistical significance, they are all listed here:
yourbrainonporn.com
Some examples:
Neuroscience of Internet Pornography Addiction: A Review and Update
Behav Sci (Basel). 2015 Sep; 5(3): 388–433.
dx.doi.org
Compulsive Sexual Behaviour as a Behavioural Addiction: The Impact of the Internet and Other Issues. Mark Griffiths PhD., (2016)
onlinelibrary.wiley.com
Neuropsychopharmacology 41, 385-386 (January 2016) | doi:10.1038/npp.2015.300
nature.com
First link on jewgle: "It is very similar to the process Carl Jung referrd to as individuation"
I wont risk it thanks. And since this is a misinterpretation of onanism and people just love to hear themselves talk. If you are right. I dont care
You don't understand.
Not all things that "look" like additions "are" additions. Being "addicted" to work is not a bad thing unless it leads to physical and psychological problems. Being "addicted" to going to the gym does not become a problem unless it leads to psychological and physical problems.
There is this saying, "If it walks like a duck, and quack like a duck, its a duck." That statement is flawed as fuck because it implies that if a man walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then he is suddenly no longer a man and now a duck, or that he is more of a duck than he is a human.
You cannot just bunch things together that are superficially alike then assume that because they are the same color, they are the same thing.
Do you want to know why this is stupid? People that work in progress (from production to the website admins) would have all this porn addiction claims my.
You guys are morons.
Again, I didn't fap till 24 and fat, ugly women got the hint (a false hint, but whatever) that I was really interested. It's VERY bizarre when an attractive man is being rejected by low quality women despite not making a move or having any intentions, the story I'm giving you is true and very unusual. Being both a massive, awkward nerd and having an 8/10 face at 6'0 has given me a very weird experience when it comes to dating.
I think average guys get more leeway in being too forward, women think "ah okay he's just interested" whereas if he's above a certain point it's as if women expect literal perfection. At the moment, women are very weird to awkward, physically attractive guys.
BTW actually getting laid has the same effect >lol I notice I stop fapping when I have a girlfriend
You don't say.
And lower arousal is exactly what I want, being needy as the awkward hot guy is death to any relationship, women just can't handle seeing a guy who should be cool act completely awkward. They just reject everything about that.
Whats good having "life force" if you do nothing with it? What is better? Living 75 years, being relatively healthy, having a great family, a great job and being "happy" (whatever that is) or Living til 100 alone with no job, no family and not being "happy" but being content with your lack of happiness?
I''ll take the 75 years for 400, Jim.
I'm on day 41 and I feel great about it
>physical body sees no difference between cumming in a puss or cumming in a hand.
you know how after you fap you feel regret and mild disgust then wipe down and try to function?
You know how when you cum in a woman and she holds you tightly and says "very goood" and then you curl up together and fall asleep and you can feel her heart and breathing against your chest?
yes yes. same thing... physically...right.
enjoy your broken dick
I think he has nice hands, or knows all about sex through videos, visual novels and cartoons.
Facts^^^
I stimulate my penor every few days to make sure I get wood, and I also get it more naturally now. For example I was watching a regular film last night with a sexy woman in it and I got a boner.
Feels good, don't be a porn/fap addict my friend.
What are you some fucking Aborigines downy? How are you so gloriously retarded?
>awkward and attractive
I'm a fit 8/10 but awkward. You are right, women do not give us any leeway. Being an 8/10 and not acting like a Chad drops us down to a 4/10 on their scale.
And yes, our experience is very different from most peoples
Shut up, your kind are spreading this filth. Get out of this thread.
Bruh, don't even act like a Chad. Don't go around fucking every whore that can open 'er legs. It's op btw, do what I done said in the parenthasiss to develop a large circle of friends and you'll naturally find someone who you like and who likes you. Focus on meeting/befriending as many people as you can. Most of these relationships will ultimately be meaningless, but the meaningless relationship initially is very necessary. Also, I find being a nice yet self respecting person helps. Don't go overboard, but help people out when you can.
>Not all things that "look" like additions "are" additions. Being "addicted" to work is not a bad thing unless it leads to physical and psychological problems. Being "addicted" to going to the gym does not become a problem unless it leads to psychological and physical problems.
Wrong. Again, you don't look at the facts and haven't even bothered looking at this video which addresses your exact point: youtube.com
Sex addiction is not the same as, let's say, video game addiction because humans aren't wired to seek out video games. Sex on the other hand, is part of our inner cortex and our limbic system. This is why nearly every guy is addicted to pornography and masturbation and have such a hard time to recover from it, because sex addiction is that much more potent so-to-speak.
>A Cambridge University study comparing aspects of compulsivity in alcoholics, binge-eaters, video game addicts and porn addicts (CSB). Excerpts: CSB subjects were faster to learning from rewards in the acquisition phase compared to healthy volunteers and were more likely to perseverate or stay after either a loss or a win in the Reward condition. These findings converge with our previous findings of enhanced preference for stimuli conditioned to either sexual or monetary outcomes, overall suggesting enhanced sensitivity to rewards (Banca et al., 2016).
>Front. Behav. Neurosci., 03 August 2016
>doi.org
Just admit it, you are addicted to pornography and masturbation. Just look at you sitting there like a pile of trash vigorously defending porn and masturbation while claiming to be smart. Just because you can spew out 2000 words max with no p-value or statistical significance doesn't mean it's the truth. There is no shame admitting you have an addiction. The first step towards recovery is admitting you are an addict. Then the healing process can begin.
That's because they're all porn addicts and in denial, why do you think they're in the industry in the first place? Just like drug dealers and the like. Is this not obvious to you? On the other hand, here are peer-reviewed medical research that proves porn and masturbation addiction is just as potent as heroin-addiction and causes actual brain changes:
Brain Studies on Porn Users. The results of these 34 neurological studies (and upcoming studies) are consistent with 220+ Internet addiction "brain studies", many of which also include internet porn use. All support the premise that internet porn use can cause addiction-related brain changes, as do 12 recent neuroscience-based reviews of the literature:
All not fapping/not having sex does is give you prostate or semen cancer. We are not meant to not use our body and just let stuff be grown (semen) and then die inside of us
Expelling semen every day makes sure you dont get testicular semen cancer (called a seminoma)
>enjoy your broken dick
Guys addicted to pornography and masturbation are more likely to experience ED and other symptoms. Some masturbation addicts would even go so far as their penis would bleed from the constant masturbation.
>“I would stay in church parking lots and put sunshades up on the windows and spend all day in my car on my tablet device,” he says.
>He was addicted to internet porn, masturbating six to 10 times a day, to the point where he was bleeding but would continue.
Yes goyim, masturbating three times a day is good for you! Haven't you heard the news? If you don't masturbate 6 gorillion times a month, you get cancer! You don't want that to happen, right goy?!
>All not fapping/not having sex does is give you prostate or semen cancer.
Wrong, this is a frequently mis-cited study that only studied a specific case of men that were 50 years old and older. In fact, younger men who masturbate frequently may be exposed to more risk of prostate cancer.
Your body has a natural mechanism called nocturnal emissions to balance your body out. This is discussed in ancient texts and even in your sex ed course. Problem is, since the 1990s with the advent of the internet, more and more men are not experiencing nor talking about nocturnal emissions because everybody is a porn-addict and masturbator.
I haven't mausturbated at all in years and I'm doing completely fine. No prostate cancer last time I checked. You have no excuses.
On the other hand, being a porn and masturbating addict has many downsides. Many men have a mild-form of clinical depression. You are also frying your brain out and frying out those dopamine receptors, this is why you are going through a withdrawal period. HINT: if you experience withdrawal symptoms, you ARE addicted. Stop lying and denying the truth and the facts that science has proven.
34 neurological studies (and upcoming studies) are consistent with 220+ Internet addiction "brain studies", many of which also include internet porn use: yourbrainonporn.com
Anyone recovered from porn induced ED?
I'm only 22, I shouldn't have ED.
>watch my shitty 1 hour 10 minute long video of opinions!
No thanks. If you can't say it here then its not important.
>Nearly every person who is addicted to porn has a hard time recovering from it
No shit. If your definition of addiction is "consumption" then by definition people who consume x won't be a part of the set of people who no longer consumes X. Idiot. Fuck.
>Just admit it you are addicted to pornography.
With your weak-ass "consumption therefore addiction" definition then yeah i am addicted to pornography. Not sure I'm addicted to fapping though even by your shitty definition.
You remind me of those religious people who's argument for me being degenerate in their eyes is that i don't accept their religion and all i have to do to begin to path of a degenerate free lifestyle is adopt their world view exactly as they see it. Disagreements are okay, idiot.
The entire body of research you are linking amounts to, "Humans love porn, therefore consuming porn means they can't stop consuming it. It's bad, you see!" This is all coming down to a difference of world view. As i have said, you've defined consumption as addition. I added constraints: consumption is not addition unless the consumption directly leads to physical or psychological problems with the consumer.
A single NEET who has nothing else to do after putting in job applications; who cares if they jerk off? Fuck em.
A married man with a beautiful wife who rather consumes porn and jerk off than have his wife tend to his needs: There is the problem. Now the question is, is this an "addition"....he can't get off without porn and his own hand, or is this an "outlet"...his wife is not putting out because she's a cunt who entered a relationship under the guise that she is a sex machine then loses interest 5 weeks in.
>Anyone recovered from porn induced ED?
Yes. It is scientifically proven you can fully recover. The only thing is that it takes time and discipline. Same as how alcoholics can fully recover from their addiction. Heroin addicts can fully recover. Same with PMO-addicts.
You need to go through a rebooting process which lasts at least 90 days. During the rebooting process, you need to abstain from pornography and masturbation. You will experience withdrawal symptoms which is completely normal. You only need to go through this once, so don't think that being extra horny is someting you have put up with for the rest of your life, you won't feel the withdrawal symptoms until you fully recover. You can read more here: yourbrainonporn.com
Remember, if you fell into the PMO-addiction hole, you can definitely climb out of it. No excuses. Many of us, including me, have fully recovered from PMO-addiction and are living normal healthy lives.
>This is literary a Medieval Christian claim to rape
notchesblog.com
Probably why priests tend to go for the boys, their 'sacred' text are all boy-pussy-juice stories.
>No thanks. If you can't say it here then its not important.
Your loss.
I'm on week 3. It's not so bad if you have a good motivation. I'm becoming more religious and nofap/noporn is obligatory at this point.
Is it okay to masturbate to anime instead of 3d?
It's about watching something to wack the quack as opposed to fuck, wet-dream or once in a while (without going through the motion of serch/watching porn).
No, because you're still activating the parts of your brain circuitry that induces PMO-addiction. In this case, instead of real motion-picture women in sexual poses, you're getting off on animated women. You're still triggering the same response in your brain and causing addiction related changes.
>ass cancer
>weirdobot on Sup Forums
Hrm
Seminoma? Hey at least you squirt tumors. You nasty
I have learned now what it really is. Apologies. Anyways off to youtube now
This is not a game of winning and losing you idiot. If you can't derive your own arguments, then you are worse than useless. You are just a puppet; a mouth piece who feels like they are smart but nothing you say is your own; just someone else's words that were bird-fed down your throat and any "argument" you have, you just vomit it back up expecting people to just feast of your vomit without asking whats in it.
...
You don't seem to know what "Your loss" means. It's not about winning or losing, it's about gaining or not gaining (hence loss). It's because he hands you the knowledge and you refuse, so it's a loss for you because you could have gotten his free knowledge.
Like:
>You wanna suck my dick?
Nah brah
>Your loss, faggot.
Oh nm, Murication, should have checked before berating you.