Fascism/National Socialism vs liberitarianism

I'm right wing, and anti communist, but I was curious about Sup Forumss views of the two ideologies. Which is superior, national socialism or anti government libertarianism and why?

anti government libertarianism is great but always evolves into 14 inch dildoes and (((media conglomerates))) doxxing people.

Libertarianism is a meme ideology, most economists are actually Keynesians and the government has a very important and somewhat interventionist role to play in the economy if the economy is actually going to function well. National Socialism makes more sense than libertarianism.

Honestly the only hardcore liberitarion things I believe in are a strong second amendment and little to no socialist or marxist policies

>gagsden's flag used for anti-government libertarianism
>Gagsden personally gave the flag to the commander-in-chief of the Navy in 1775 to use as a standard on his ship.
>Gagsden also gave a copy of the flag to Congress of South Carolina to be used as a standard for the office of the commander-in-chief of the Navy
I find it hilarious when libertarians use it.

Nazis killed millions of Europeans, Nazism is a dead ideology with zero formal support.

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>I'm right wing, and anti communist
Oh really, tell me more about what communism actually is.

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We don't talk to communist scum, we kill them.

Lol how about you? It has never worked, ever, so let's here your bullshit

Something, something, the jews

My bullshit? Alright

Name a country that was communist, and I won't just tell you otherwise, I'll tell you why.
Go on

>I'll tell you why real communism has never been tried before
>I have another thread opening talking about how commies beat the Nazis 70 years ago, which validates my adolescent world view
Move along, kid. It's nothing we haven't seen before.

>tfw you want freedom but still have national socialism

>communism has never been tried
Nice meme. No leftist denies communism hasn't been tried.

>I have another thread opening talking about how commies beat the Nazis 70 years ago, which validates my adolescent world view
Well. Not that I advocate that, but they can still be communist even if they aren't living under communism, it's about what they believe. Similar to how if I served, or lived under a capitalist or live under 'National Socialism' It doesn't mean I'm necessarily either of those things. So the statement itself isn't inherently wrong, to say the least.

Exactly. It was the method of implementation that hasn't succeeded, not the ideology or practice of communism itself

National socialism was a form of communism designed to appeal to patriotic Germans (ditching the one-world bullshit) and avoid the more obvious inefficiencies of Stalinism, for example, by maintaining the illusion of private ownership.

The experiment backfired, to put it mildly.

We'll never know how long national socialism might have lasted had Hitler not turned on the people who bankrolled his rise to power, but by all accounts the Nazi economy wasn't very efficient. Driving out or killing most of the high-IQ population didn't help.

Libertarianism is a meme ideology invented by the globalists whose only purpose is to lead astray racial realists and patriots who might otherwise oppose them. Every society has laws and law enforcement of some sort. Abolishing government is impossible, and the globalists never went crazy enough to try doing so in any civilized country (Somalia doesn't count).

Nazism wasn't obviously crazy at first, and worked for a few years, sort of, so as far as it goes Nazism is "better." But both are globalist memes.

Whatever eventually lets me be in a RWDS is best

I care only for revenge

>National socialism = a form of communism

>Libertarianism = globalist scheme

>Abolishing government is impossible

Libertarian-ism encourages corporations and a capitalist society- Both things encourage profit over the well being of the people. This is why corporations and especially Jews tend to support third-world immigration and other such things, which undermines a nation and a people- They don't care about the people, they care about profit, and having an uneducated consumer slave-class consisting of low-IQ third-worlders is good for profit.

These are fundamentally opposite of each other.

One is essentially libertarian capitalism.
The other one is authoritarian socialism - yes it's fucking socialism for white people - eat a dick.

>National socialism was a form of communism
Lol

>illusion of private ownership
Lol

No state=no national borders.
Private citizen's borders don't help the community withstand migrant invasion. It's individualism spiting the nation.

>Nazi economy wasn't very efficient.
what is great depression
>Driving out or killing most of the high-IQ population didn't help.
kike

libertarianism is an ideal
natsoc might be the most realistic approach to that ideal.

Both are shit

Back to TD god bless

SO. IN PUBLIC YOU LIKE NATIONALISM

AND IN PRIVATE YOU ALSO LIKE COMMUNISM?

NAZIS == COMMIES WHO WERE MANIPULATED BY JEWS

>socialism

SOCIALISM IS EVIL

NAZIS ARE EVIL BECAUSE OF SOCIALISM

NAZI MEME IS A SHAREBLUE MEME

STOP PLAYING "DRESS UP AS A COMMIE"

IT IS WHAT THE JEWS WANT

THE JEWS

MADE THE NATIONALISM MEME

A COMMIE MEME

AND YOU FELL FOR IT

WHY NOT:

DEMOCRATIC CAPITALIST CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC NATIONALISM?!?!?!?!

So the system of government that enabled a nationalist leader to have total control over the nation and ensure that Jews and subversives had no influence in destroying the people is the Jewish thing and the one that enables Jews to have nigh total control is the proper thing? At last I truly see.
>Shareblue
Either a Trump-loving neo-con cuck or
>haha I'm only pretending to be retarded

Jesus Christ you are dumb. Ideologies don't have an agenda of their own or can claim "superiority" over one another.

You are a literal child who has never read anything substantial.

You are eternally cucked to Commie's foundational premise if you think NatSoc in any way can "oppose" it.
>B-but muh Hitler said that he identified his socialism as opposed to Marx. S-so it's good
And Hitler didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. No numbnuts being opposed to Marx doesn't magically make you right. And his use of "oppose" was a lie: NatSoc was in competition with Communism, not opposed to it. Only Capitalism can do that.
Dumbfuck Hitler would have unwittingly paved the way for GloSoc if he had won so thank fuck he didn't.
And don't fucking tell me how impressed you are with his romanticism of the patriotic Man. I don't give a shit, irrelevant. Hitle's Nationalism was a psuedo-Nationalism of the Mystic variety Rand describes. True Nationalism cannonly exist in the affirmation the the societies free me wksh to craft.
At the end of the day Hitler was just a filthy statist.

Reminder:
Right>Left
Capitalism>Socialism
NatCap>NatSoc
NatSoc=GloSoc
Meritocracy>Democracy
Libertarian>Authoritarian
Libertarianism>Egalitarianism
Objectivism>Libertarianism
Objectivism>Subjectivism/Relativism
Egoism>Altruism
Individualism>Collectivism
Individualism>Statism
Nationalism>Globalism
Anarchism>Totalitarianism
Minarchism>Anarchism
LfCap>AnCap
Conservative>Progressive
Liberal>Fascist

Missing anything?

The jews started the nazi party and helped it get into power
So you're saying the jews were such a powerful problem... but not powerful enough to put these events in motion?
Goebbels was a jew - read up that HE was the one that pushed for killing of ____ALL____ ( your comment
nice one shill, cnn allowing you to click flag nows?

>DEMOCRATIC CAPITALIST CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC NATIONALISM?!?!?!?!
you might have to come up with a more concise name broski.

it's more like
libertarian > fascist
"liberal" has no meaning
"progressive" just means jew

Trumpism!
NatCap will cover it too (if your Nat == USA, than it's a given)

>false dichotomies: the list

Holy this this is illegible. Are you having a stroke. Are you okay?

>(((Objectivism)))

Holy shit man. Dude, don't stop, your posts send my sides into the orbit

>in private im extreme left
>in public im extreme right
wat

"natsoc" is a massive shareblue meme trying to pretend to idiots that nazi == bernie, but only to the clever people in the know! so if you want to be edgy, vote bernie!!

I am not joking - they have meeting every day at 10am trying to find out ways to make socialism cool
jesus christ

SO - CNN: how we BTFO
EXPOSE THEIR LIES
EXPOSE THEIR CORRUPTION
EXPOSE THEIR TIES

CNN left/right hypocracy memes-jewxtaspoed with their ties to hillary et al
CNN not reporting on things meme
CNN not mentioning north korea for 8 years under obama
CNN putting "what will trump do" directly trying to bait on first north korea issue

REMINDER: NORTH KOREA DID AT LEAST TWO NUCLEAR TESTS UNDER OBAMA AND CNN DID NOTHING
SAID NOTHING

GET THE ARCHIVES YOU NIGGERS

USE THEIR OWN WORDS AGAINST THEM

FUCKING "FRANKFURT NEWS NETWORK" AMIRIGHT?

FUCKING MENTALLY ILL JEWCUNTS

>Nazis are leftists
Must have imagined all those privatizations

IT IS A FUCKING MEME BY SHILLS TRYING TO PRETEND SOCIALISM IS THE EDGY COOL THING

commie nigger

Don't forget to buy your waterfilter mate.

COMMIE PRETENDING THAT NAZIS AREN'T SOCIALISTS IN A DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO HIDE THE FACT THAT THIS IS YET ANOTHER

> HEY GUIS IS SOCIALISM /OURGUY/ NOW HEHEHE BECAUSE NAZI COMMIE MEMES AMIRIGHT?

> LET'S ALL UNIRONICALLY VOTE HARD LEFT HAHHAHAH WON'T THAT BE FUN LET'S MEME BERNIE INTO OFFICE

FUCKING COMMIE NIGGERS

Hate Has No Home Here

Livertaianism! Hell, anarcho capitalism. I DON'T NEED NOBODY TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO!

> CNN / shareblue employee shits self when "socialism is cool" thread get exposed

> tries to pull the old 'you must be a crazy person who filters water' gambit

WELL FAGGOT: IT'S NOT MAKING SOCIALISM ANY COOLER, SO FUCK OFF YOU COMMIE NIGGER

go cry

who owned these privatizations?

see, this is the problem. you keep calling people niggers and yelling is gonna push them away. you gotta prove your right instead of just yelling at them and using racial slurs.

fascism is the only ideology based in reality

Im national socialist i love the idea of nazi germany , i wish they won

>adhering to partisan politics
Both ideologies have important elements to bring to the table. And neither ideology is perfect in all situations.

I believe that people should be allowed to make individual choices (such as gay marriage, or miscegenation) but it should be actively discouraged by the state. Because there will always be circumstances where high achieving ethnically non-white citizens would make good parents. But the vast majority of citizens should be steered away from it.

Some resources should be controlled by the state/people (such as reserve banks and non-renewable natural resources).

The state should only ever spend more than what it has in emergencies, and it should have a rainy day fund just for that. Paying interest to foreign entities is possibly the biggest jew-ism of them all.

I'd advocate for the dismantling of Jewish policies, but not necessarily the jewish population themselves. Not every jew acts in a detrimental way to society, but their tendency to promote policies that detriment the nation should be demolished entirely, even at the expense of a few.

I'm also a strong believer in isolationism, that cultural integrity and fair trade should be maintained, but we have no obligation to fight wars or take in immigrants from half the world away.

What privatization? Liar! Commie! Kike! I can't hear you la-la-la

>not efficient
>turned a bankrupted country into the world's greatest power in less than a decade.

anarcho capitalism could be a meme we reverse to pill some faggots
but it's false:
anarcho == communism, it's another by-word.
It's hilarious: socialism / anarchism, at their core, don't mean what they mean, they mean communism
anarcho-capitalism would resemble homesteads and guns
what they ACTUALLY say it is: a highly controlled supply of goods - seriously weird fucks - it's an Anti-American meme that's basically using "anarchism" to void the constitution.
It's bullshit.
EVERY FUCKING DAY THEY ARE TRYING TO SHAPE YOUR LANGUAGE TO SHAPE YOUR MIND
YOU ARE GETTING MEMED EVERY CUNTING DAY NIGGERS

DEMOCRATIC CAPITALIST CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC NATIONALISM

SAY IT WITH ME!

DEMOCRATIC CAPITALIST CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC NATIONALISM

FUCK YEAH

neocon get off my board neocon get off my board neocon get off my board neocon get off my board neocon get off my board neocon get off my board neocon get off my board neocon get off my board

Kike.

you're an idiot. the people did not own anything.

uh, anyone can "spend"
then I remember what happened to the mark
oh yeah, hyperinflation.
stupid fucking nigger

> credit cards not good?
> was able to buy all this shit in less than a week

YOU FUCKING COMMIE NIGGER

COMMIE NIGGER

YOU DIRTY STUPID COMMIENIGGER

YOU SUB HUMAN COMMIE NIGGER

sieg heil brothers.

ah, a jew literally calling a DEMOCRATIC CAPITALIST CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC NATIONALIST a kik

WHO IS SURPRISED?

QUICK! Call the guy calling for a capitalist, open market, constitutional republic with SMALL GOV AND EVEN SMALLER TAXES a kike!

YOU DIRTY DIRTY KIKE COMMIE NIGGER

> DEMOCRATIC CAPITALIST CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC NATIONALISM

>the people did not own anything
Exactly. The capitalists did. Glad we can agree, comrade.

im fine with libertarianism if theres no nonwhites

Ever hear of Poe's law?

>not fusing them into Anarcho-Fascism

guys, legit happening - look how these fags are panicking.

DEMOCRATIC CAPITALIST CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC NATIONALISM
> NatCap
Go on, throw your reddit memes at me you fucking nigger commies

what do you think a doctorine is. and how many of those listed do you think are actually doctorines?

I'm pretty sure you are just regurgitating some mindless commie pamphlet you read on facebook.

All Sup Forumsitics aside, a palatable approach should be taken. 'Exterminate the jews' is nice and all, but you'll never have enough public support to do so.

There should be a safety net for those genuinely disadvantaged in society, to help them to their feet (possibly a limit of 1 year of welfare per lifetime?). But the chronically work-shy should be cut off from all resources.

Same with criminals. There should be a red line, where resources should be made available to help restore criminals to reputable law abiding citizens, but once it's clear they will be repeat offenders, deport them to a desert island, or televise modern gladiator criminal fights.

The state should hold a stake on a limited number of resources, such as banking, natural resources and maybe certain heavy industry parts of the economy (where companies and citizens in New Zealand can't afford to operate). This should be run like a company, and used to minimise individual taxes as much as possible.

I'm economically leftist but pro capitalist. (muh gimmedats)
Culturally reactionary. (muh degeneracy and traditional art, architecture family etc.)
And deeply anti authoritarian. (don't tell me what to do, fuck the government)

What does that make me?

I can't hear your reddit bullshit over the sound of how much of a commie nigger faggot you are

>owning land in nazi germany
>owning an industry in nazi germany
didn't happen

a faggot
fuck off kraut
REMINDER: Germans killed more whites than jews

Without fascism, nothing stands between Tyrone and Stacy.

damn dude... you got me... i am the ultimate... JEW COMMUNIST STALINIST NEO-NAZI... i must unleash my ultimate weapon... behold... the power communist judaism...

National libertarianism is the true redpill

there's always your personality and looks.

kek is raining his blessings down on me
CNN employees BTFO. good try niggers
but kek will piss into your eyes so hard he'll turn your brains into hot-piss-soup.

the reddit 'oh youre right look at me' defense
so much cringe you fucking nigger
one problem
nobody gives a fuck, fuck off you jew commie nigger
go join kraut in being eternally btfo you subhumans

>give us more money at gunpoint goy!
Fuck off

National capitalism is an oxymoron. That's laissez-faire statism. States violate the NAP, abolish the government. There is no "nation" if you are a capitalist.

>anti government libertarianism
Works fine in the ancap fantasy world where everyone is capable of self governance without turning into degenerate criminal gang drug addict aids spreading murderers who routinely violate the NAP against their better behaved neighbours.
This isn't a fantasy world so NatSoc is best.

That's the fault of the nazis. And the rise of the nazis is the fault of the french. Go complain to them.

shut the fuck up you filthy commie cunt

i run shareblue... the adl... jidf... reddit... all these things... by the... way

national constitutional republic capitalist libertarianism -
they'll always try and twist things, we have to be careful with language, we're navigating a 4D semantic minefield with 1D words
our brains are literally unpatched windows 10 devices in terms of security from being memed to commies - write your own security - get educated

dude holy shit you're autistic

Why are you using a symbol of the American Revolution as an alt right symbol?

have some color corrected hitler guys

... said the fucking anti-white commie nazi cunt
now they're working together to pretend that being a socialist means you're against commies?
lol.
fucking stupid kraut nigger kikes
NAZIS WERE WEAK WHITES WHO WERE TAKEN OVER BY THE JEWS
TURNED INTO SOCIALISTS
WHEELBARROWS FULL OF MARKS
THE OTHER WHITES FUCKING SAVED THEM IN THE END
EVEN THOUGH THE KRAUTS KILLED MORE WHITES THAN JEWS
FUCK THE JEWS
FUCK THE COMMIES
FUCK THE SOCIALISTS
AND
FUCK THE KRAUTS
KRAUT = NIGGER LEVEL WHITE

reddit flag clicker spotted
> hey guys what could I say to defuse this guys message? lol - comment on my other comments, not where I'm just calling someone a kraut nigger


You can't unmeme:

DEMOCRATIC CAPITALIST CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC NATIONALISM

how are... you... still alive... after my awesome... displays... of my... power... this... will kill you... us... super nazi stalinist jew fascist islamist neoliberals... we will rule... forever... by the way... reptiles DO rule the... earth... frogs gay...

>capitalist
>nationalism
Free trade is globalist.

hitler was a weak fag - taken over by kikes
socialist faggot
HITLER == BERNIE FOR REAL
KILLED MORE WHITES THAN JEWS
think about it
only killed the poor jews
rich jews laughing over in America
which they promptly try to destroy

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that's your go to?
> key guys communism is awesome, why argue, what are you a water filtering person who thinks frogs are turned gay by chemicals we flush out of millions of houses? hahahaha
is this all you've got faggot?
CNNisCancer
CNNisKikeMode

>freedom is bad

Even if freedom is degenerate, take away free speech is wrong. It's the fact I can say whatever I want and do whatever I want that makes a country great.

>Fuck crackers
>Fuck spics
>Fucking cumskin
ect.

I would have been arrested if this were a natsoc country.