Danish-style Folkeskole Education Applied in Latin America

This tread will be dedicated to the discussion of the rural school model applied in Latin America. It is a proven system that improves the quality of life in rural town and serves as a gateway for nationalism and morality to be installed in the community. We will be using the Danish example as a case-study for this model.

An fairly detailed explanation of what the Folkeskole education model is will be given in the next posts, but a tl;dr of what it is would be:
>A System or schooling in rural areas that teaches trades and culture for students who's future is working on the agricultural sector. Instead of the average student curriculum, students under the Folkeskole both work and practice farming while also studying only what they will need in the future plus history and other subjects aimed at promoting the local and national culture. This way the children can earn an income or food while still studying, practicing what they learn and helping their family and community by partially joining the work-force
Latin America is still heavily reliant on agriculture, we should take advantage of this instead of industrializing ourselves and opening us to cosmopolitanism. Just think of the Wheat-fields

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There is prior evidence of rural schools changing the tide for developing nations. When Prussia annexed Denmark’s southern territories, this nation became determined to become a modern State through the creation of the following system:
Since Denmark is a minuscule territory, with little fertile land, farmers had to dedicate themselves entirely to agricultural production, with no chance of implementing heavy industry any time soon. Thus, intellectuals working for the government established rural schools to educate the populous. During the warm seasons, when crops could be grown, the rural youth would work the fields with their families to feed themselves and the country. In the cold seasons, when it was pointless to attempt any agricultural activity, the youngsters, both male and female, were sent to school.

In this system, teachers were made figures of authority amongst the village, being knowledgeable in a great plethora of topics, from mathematics to law. Besides being educators, teachers were judges, counsellors, government representatives, medics and any other title proper of intellectual and moral authority. Teachers were amongst the most respected members of the community and any important matter would be brought before them.
In school, the students would learn their nation’s folklore and history, developing a sentiment of national pride. Nevertheless, instead of closing themselves to outside influence, the Danes embraced knowledge from other peoples and nations. They learned about global history and other cultures. This gave the students a wide perspective of their world and context.
Thanks to this system, Denmark could adapt new technologies which helped agriculture and the cattle industry, principally bovine and porcine. Due to the import and replication of new technology, Denmark became the chief exporter of butter, produced from the waste obtained from cheese. Its GBP increased and it became a rich, if small, nation. More than that, the discipline instilled by the rural school produced a cultured, well-prepared workforce that modernized the country as if it was a major world power.

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Latin america needs brain boosting genius sperm, not gimmicky education. IQ is basically genetic.

>muh IQ maymay
Fuck off with your pseudoscience.

Which can happen with a good education system because all the gifted people leave.

Let's start with how we would fund something like this. There are manny obstacles for us but money-management is the first one we must tackle

We have Four options:
>Seek Government help, exchange money for us taking some responsibility away from them (And in the case of Mexico, under the Teacher unions crisis, we would make a good alternative for the government)
>Private donors. Pay it ourselves after /biz/ bad us "Forrados en billetes". Or seek a third party to finance us. Either from the god of their hears (and taxes) or we could make a contract with a automobile company and have them donate farm equipment in exchange of loyalty via teaching students specific machinery. That would also help us, by teaching kids mechanics and how to fix their own machines
>Comunal cooperation and making the School as self sustaining as possible. In exchange of giving education the town could give us special prices for product and services, that summed with special events aimed at gathering shekels and the school producing food to sell back to the community should at least help us a lot economically
>Or a combination of all three. Which must be the right answer, but each aspect must be reviewed first before joining them
Self determination and will power are better than IQ. And what gimmicks? We are basically trowing all that's useless from modern education

Nice thread Mexibro.

Too bad no one will care and it will die while people argue in the interracial porn shill threads.

One of the important parts of the system was schooling kids in the winter but I thought the growing season was year-round for you guise? Does this make much of a difference?

This "Fuga de Cerebros" (brain leakage) is actually a huge problem in Mexico. We have pretty good universities and a lot of very capable graduates, but they all go to the US for jobs.
Actually, one of my Highschool's selling points was that when you graduated from University different companies from the US would come looking for employees
I mean, you are here. You can also give a discussion
>I thought the growing season was year-round for you guise?
Yes, but that could be fixed by changing the temporal formal, something like splitting the school in two, one working on Winter, the other on summer. Or have them work and study in 3 moth intervals (since it is not hard to think that manny of these kids will be providing for their families too)

Gotcha.

I've been meaning to read up on the Prussian school system and its cousins but haven't found the time. Thanks for the kick in the pants.

Do you really think you could implement a system like this and not have the cartels piss all over it? I can absolutely see them seizing control of it and using it for their own sick reasons. Money laundering, child prostitution, school buses full of blow crossing the border.

The cartels sometimes fund schools (said cartels are the drug-trafficking ones, not the kidnapping, torturing kind.
They usually keep to their own business. They even try to keep others from following the same path

I am from a cartel family and I can tell you that they won't care, specially in small towns.
Cartels actually keep crime to a minimum (if you steal a house or robe someone you get stewed) on the town they plant the drugs in. All the violence happens on the big cities because the real fight is got the supply lines.
They will see the schools and maybe they will fund them (the school that my grandmother taught in and my mother studied in were build with drug money) because they are kid of patriotic and manny want their children not to work on a Cartel

The only problem I see is that we may be taking away from their work force, they will first start paying farmers more for cultivating drugs and such, but that's where the morals and nationalism comes in. New farmers will still be friendly, but try not to get involved. When Narcos start losing a significan amount of work force then I ignore what could happen

Any sauce on the school funding bit? Can't find much that hasn't been scrubbed by google.

None of it is official, they say that the money came from the community, but in my mother's town everyone knows who built and funded the elementary school, pre-school, Football field, roads, some houses, comunal Christmas parties (they are actually very comfy, even if I dislike how noisy my people are. They serve good food) and manny other celebrations for kids and lotteries.

>Source: me visiting my grandmother and cousins

We might convince the narcos to cooperate if the townspeople show interest for it. Government might promise to ignore the drug production and enforce the prohibition laws only when imperative. Without much government involvement there, the narcos can procure some of the funding.
Now, we would have to purge government officials, because corruption is very strong, so we risk them draining the education funds, like Javier Duarte, former governor of Veracruz, who drained all the money for that state's main university. Once that is done, we can give more money to the education departments and start planning on the educational programs

>Which can happen with a good education system because all the gifted people leave.
Sperm is pretty cheap. You could import thousands of vials of sperm of the top engineers from all over the world, for not too much money... if a market actually developed for it. The sperm is worth more than gold, in my opinion, because the genes create brains which create amazing things we all take for granted.

The government ignoring the Narcos, at least for a while, is our best option. They are too embedded in society and have too much power. It is better to take away the reasons people choose that life than it is to fight most of the groups.

If we:
>Give a better life to farmers so they stop needing to sell drugs to Cartels
>Fight the Narcoculture that glorifies this lifestyle without upsetting the Narcos
>Give their kids a better future and let narcos retire silently to improve their cooperation
We may solve our narco problem in one or two generations.

Now, tho ones that kidnap, murder and that are basically ex-militarymen...¿Día de la Soga?

>Cuking ourselves, destroying our race instead of instructing selective breeding and eugenics into our gene-pool

kek I can imagine all the japanese engineers that will donate

And having a bunch of half-asian, half-Mexican kids?
No thanks. Discipline is more than enough, might not get us to the moon; but will give us a better life

Hear me up, What about a less extreme version of the Girls und Panzer education model?

I was kidding never would advocate for race-mixing.

What about not only giving clases on agriculture, but other aspects of farm life

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Comunal cooperation seems like the most viable option to my judgement. Considering the realities of poverty, but strong values of community in the less industrialized states (mainly speaking of States like Oaxaca and Chiapas), a model like that could be put in place with realtive ease; community leaders and (perhaps) some private funding would be necessary though: The government won't act unless the people discipline themselves first.

As for the North, I'm not sure. American investments do their part, but I believe that section to be more individualistic, ergo, less open to that alternative. Maybe philanthropy could work, but that's a very unreliable thing to base oneself on.

Regarding everything else, this model seems A-OK. Maybe upgrading normal schools or general investments in education could spike up some very real changes in the following decades.

Well, will try again tomorrow

Sinaloa is our biggest agricultural producer, we should aim for them (for more info read some posts up)

Should we spice up the system a little bit? Mechanics, sellers, carpenters, all those trades that a self-sustaining town should have

And let's not forget the fact that manny of the poorest town will barely speak Spanish, we will have to pull someone from that community and turn him into a teacher, we won't be able to have anyone

wut?

That sounds dandy and all, but how could we actually achieve that?

Oh, shit. They found us
>Bork bork

>we should take advantage
It's a know-how, it's been always like this
>instead of industrializing
lol no, agriculture brings a lot of money to us, specially in this early century that allow us grow up a lot but it doesn't give jobs like industry and services does. if Argentina didn't collapse yet it's thanks to the diversification of economy.
>opening us to cosmopolitanism
Nothing wrong with this unless you make it Buenos Aires style. Brazil took advantage of this and knew how to deal with migration, Sao Paulo is nowadays one of most modern cities in the world and still growing.

>Regarding Sinaloa.
I agree. I'm not sure if the government can do much with the Cartel there though: I ignore much of that state's situation in relation to infrastructure,

Ideally, the more people who are educated the better. Whoever hops in is a valuable addition. Nevertheless, I have this newspiece saying that an important percentage of our professionists is unemployed and many national universities are cutting scholarships now to solve the problem: I'm not sure how this happened, but we've goofed higher education somehow.

eluniversal.com.mx/articulo/cartera/economia/2017/05/27/48-de-desempleados-con-prepa-o-universidad

>Regarding indeginous communities and people who don't speak Spanish.
Either Normal Schools get steroids to hop in with some contributions or we get the anthropologists to use their crazy skills.


Heyy~~~

Maybe I should have used "Multicultural".
Buenos Aires is OK, jut hang the freemasons

>instead of industrializing
In Mexico they are shilling the "Maquilas" so much that the agricultural sector is suffering a bit. We sure need to modernize, but it must be from the ground up, instead of forcing high-end industries to appear more first worlder

Your model of education already failed considering 1 thing
>modern industrialized and highly technologized agriculture
Modern agriculture requires a lot of money, a lot of technology, a lot of machines.
What it requires is less people, unlike the 3rd world country US of A where they still need millions of people.

The education model should be joined by an initiative to move the people back to the rural side, developing :
-agriculture
-industry (for what you produce in agriculture and products you can make locally and consume)
-trades
-IT&TC infrastructure (develops the telecomunications industry, more jobs can be done at home, more freelancers, etc)
-developing real infrastructure if politicans can stop stealing the money

You are not talking about the current Folkeskole? (it means peoples school btw)

>modern industrialized and highly technologized agriculture
We are talking about communities that are to poor for that. Besides, things like vegetables and fruit cannot me mechanically processed, until this day they are still extracted from the fields by hand (guess what Mexico's main agricultural export are. Hint: not Wheat)

I ignore the current system (since it is modern I guess it's shit). The case-study was from a few centuries ago

>things like vegetables and fruit cannot me mechanically processed
Depending on which, there are already solutions in this.
More are coming with robots nowadays.

An education model needs to embrace and integrate new technologies and new information.

Education isn't just reading a book, is a template for the next generations, it will dictate their lives and your society.

You can't make a retrograde education model based on current poverty, you won't remain poor forever, it should strive for development.

fascinating. Never knew this.

>More are coming with robots nowadays.
They are a meme, until we come up with:
>Better batteries
>Artificial muscules
>Algorithms for morals
>Recognising objects under context
Robots will just be clumsy machines that can't even open a door

Plus, this is not a system to fees the country, but one to take this people out of poverty and propagate nationalism

>You can't make a retrograde education model based on current poverty
That is the same as "it's the current year". We are talking about communities with a very small technological level and money

How is that? From what I understand of OPs post, he may be talking of an older version where communities crowdsource the service.

Nice trips m8.
Mexico is stronk and will pull out urbanized space agriculture in the future.

First though, we'd need to solve the fact that most of that sector is domained by individual farmers. Outcompeting them would be harmful to a huge part of the population (about 45-52%) and, aside existing conferederations of workers, Mass organization seems difficult.

I do agree that we need to buff our education though.

Bless the danes, m8.

I actually quite liked our Folkeskole and it is very good. I did a year in an American high school right after Folkeskole and eductaion wise I was smarter than most of my peers.

There recently was a change in folkeskole where kids now spend more time at school. And it is generally considered a down grade but it is not as big a deal as people claimed it would be.

Please tell me more

Worker's Unions are fucking useless and extremely harmful, in some sectors in you refuse to join them they will move heaven and earth (instead of working) to make you fail at your job

After folkeskole we have Gymnasium which would be late High School/early college. Folkeskole helped me with some of the stuff we did in High School but some of the high school stuff helped me when I came back for Gymnasium.
I dont know how you would compare Danish and American (or other education) but our College/University is free and we are payed 900$ a month if we are studying at Uni and are over 18 and not living at home. Lower rates are used if those criterias are not met.

I see it more like an conservative educational system instead of an adaptative one to the rural condition. Why don't you just spend some budget for a proper education and get your country industrialized?

When poorly executed, yes. The reality is that worker unions provide the organization for our multimillion dollar agricultural sector and keeps the US stacked with tomatoes.

Because we have a huge country north of us with tons of money but that forgot how to grow food
And our north is already pretty industrialized (good because they can't grow shit). But the south is filled with poor people and tons of land

Having money (the country) is so great

Sounds awesome. I'd love me some 900$ a month lol.

Mexico's current economic plan is founded on providing a workforce and not a productive sector. We're getting industrialized, but the aim is not one of autonomy, but interdependence with our North American trade partners. Essentially, we're NAFTA's sweatshop.

Ayyy I did too. Where did you study in America?

It really is great. My friends and I often talk about how lucky we are and we do the math now and then and it is a good investment for out country:

I think the government pays the universities 125,000$ per done engineering bachelor student (I am currently studying that so that is what I know about). Prices depends on the education where engis are the most expensive iirc.
The state pays me 900$(after tax) * 12 months * 3 years = 32,400$ during my education.
That is like 160,000$ total. Now that is a lot of money but if we consider the fact that a student like me will make around 73,320$ each year and considering that our taxes are like 50% it will only take the government 3 years to get its investment back.

I know a guy who is from Mexico and he works as an engi here so you guys can educate somewhat decent I guess

Texas

Nice to know a brother is up there representing the 'hood.

Tak.

>muslims get sent sex ed pamphlets, stop raping
>mexicans slap a buzzword on their education, stop beheading
Ok

It could work, if it did not then why would the Swedish Gov be spending so much money on that

National Socialism for all! Help us build the border wall so we can make mexico safe again.

>Wall is built
>The Drug and gun flow stops
>Narcos weaken while they restructure
>Start waiging war agains the under-fnded narco forces
>Narco problem is fixed
Sure, build it with CEMEX(TM) pls

Nazism doesn't work.
Fight me, noob.

Me too

*Se teleporta detrás de ti*
Jeje, nada personal, niño

Back then it was normal to slap disobedient students on their hands with a stick.

Have you ever being thrown an eraser? Pin-point accuracy and a cloud of chalk following it

Nobody wants to raise a bunch of autistic nerd children except autistic nerd parents. Look at what people in those societies actually value.

I want an bookworm daughter who I can teach guns to...

>Nobody wants to raise a bunch of autistic nerd children except autistic nerd parents
There are plenty of non-autistic, non nerdy, brilliant people out there. Obviously only desirable sperm would be collected.
Brainpower is a resource. Smart sperm produces more brainpower. More brainpower = wealthier country. it benefits you greatly to raise a brilliant child. That child could become a doctor and save your life, or invent something...

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