Why are there so few marriage worthy men these days? And I'm not asking this as a bait or trying to side with the feminazis, I'm genuinely curious as to why there's a shortage of physically fit, well educated, high earning young guys who have their own cars and houses instead of being renters and public transport cucks? Or was it always like this and the standards of women have just skyrocketed in the past decade or so?
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Breakdown of the nuclear family, real estate speculation, and wages being suppressed.
Or Jews.
>why do men not want to enter a contract they in no way benefit from?
Ftfy
Maybe it's the nature of hyperindividualising (consumer) societies, every need is *promised* (implicitly or explicitly) by the market, thus, reliance on other people becomes a things of a past, almost Matrix-style.
Of course, our biosocial evolution has not prepared us to such a drastic change, and in the end, the seek of comfort will pile even greater miseries on us.
Why doesn't it benefit men anymore? It used to.
feminism
They're around, just fucking all the slut women who throw their pussies around like frisbees.
>it used to
Yeah before they could vote.
Could you be more specific?
Well put. We must embrace our suffering together and rise above our pretty personal desires. It is the choice between what we want and what we need.
idk no one seems to have any trouble around here.
Men's purpose was to produce to support a family and get pussy. Women sling pussy like no tomorrow and don't want children. Why would men produce? This question is asked everyday. Fucking lurk more summerfag.
No fault divorce ruined everything
>th-thanks Reagan
Our married to the few good women already.
We all know women are programmed. The question is: who programs them?
all i see is families, so someone must be reading a chart upside down.
Fake news. Where's the source, Shlomo? This is just one step in breaking down the family unit. Trying to push the MGTOW hard. Meanwhile, shit-skins outbreed you.
I would marry to further the white race.
I do not buy into the love shit
And yes, I've been in love multiple times, its over rated
Source for what?
every 20 year old already has a kid.
Because theres no incentive for men to be men
Nuclear family is gone and feminism has turned women into bitter cruel bitches
Why would I settle down and marry any woman that isn't a virgin?
Im 31 now, rich as fug, bought my house in cash. For some reason I get these bottom of the barrel low tier women think that they actually have a chance with me. Some 33 year old butterface divorcee who cant cook, doesn't clean? What a winner.
Mate. If any man ( maybe not 10% to 20% ) went back any time in history, he would be more educated and earn more money than any other on the planet, physical fitness is a different thing.
The point im trying to make is that whatever is "marriage worthy" is going up and up and up and up, the scale is going higher and higher and higher in an unnatural manner. Now you have women who dont want to talk to guys who do not earn six figures regardless of other factors. And lets be real not alot of people earn six figures. If earning six figures becomes the norm, then women wont talk to anyone who doesnt earn 8 figures and so on.
There is the economy part where back in the day shit was much easier to earn. Back in the day my mother earned 2 times of her mothers and fathers pay in a day, bought everything that was expensive. And now we dont have enough money to pay rent in an apartment.
But economy aside. The bar is being raised incredibly fast. I admit i am out of shape, but i used to be able to run for about an hour with no breaks, i am an excellent climber and i have great dexterity, however thats not the physical fit you want. The physical fit you want is just mass of muscle.
And on top of that, when it comes to marriages. Even if you have a car, house, are physically fit, if there is 5 things about your character that a woman dislikes, shell look for a replacement because they are easy to find with the help of technology. And sometimes even if everythings perfect theyll still look for somebody else for an affair because they like being "rebellious" and enjoy the rush of it.
Higher bar to me a man.
If you intend to remain single, why did you buy a house instead of an apartment?
Maybe your too picky
UK doesn't really "do" apartments, I live in a small town. Apartments are for bigger cities. There are apartments here, but they aren't particularly desirable.
Property houses here are also likely to rise, so its a good investment.
I don't intend to remain single, I would like to find a young traditional woman to marry and raise a family.
But there aint many of those going around.
>well educated, high earning young guys
Affirmative action in collages, changing of primary and secondary education to be easier for girls and harder for boys, gender quotas in jobs, public sector jobs...
>hypthesis
Do they even care
because you voted to destroy the very society that would have created those men.
Whats also interesting is that a farmer is not considered educated even though farmers are the reason you can eat every day.
Just because someone is educated does not mean theyre important.
Opposite example: gender studies.
virgin? you might as well hunt mobby dick.
Dating and courting your women never ends even after decades of marriage. Very few men realize this/are taught this and thus what eventually happens is that the women find another man who does date and court her and starts having an affair. (((They))) also put out propaganda in movies and televison shows that men should chase and pursue women when in reality it's the other way around. Plus depressed wages, loss of manufacturing, loss of union based work, ect.
I could settle for a young girl who had a boyfriend etc.
I just will not settle for a 30 year old woman with an absurdly high partner count. Roasties are out of their minds at that age.
When does the partner count become "high"? After 10, 20, 50?
6 figures in shape 6"1' dude here.
All i ever meet are fat entitled bitches with meme corporate jobs such as diversity manager. They all look 15 years older than I at the same age and believe they deserve the best. What a fucking joke.
I just got married. Snagged me a good one. Already redpilled and open-minded. Soon we'll have a house together. Then WARRIOR CHILDREN.
I'd say after 3 or 4.
TOP FUCKING KEK
both sexes are at fault; men have become lazy and more feminine, and women have become more spoiled and slutty
This guy raises a valid point.
What a woman sees as "marriage worthy" and also there have been alot of posts about news that state something along the lines of "women are having a hard time finding men that are equally educated" or something as such.
A fit 6'1 6 figures man and who thinks that they are somehow "equal" to him? Fat women, arguably the worst type of woman.
When a woman says "equal" she means 5 times better.
>well educated, high earning young guys
Because the economy is shit. The economic cycle is in a shitty place right now
beta buccs, alfa fuccs
women are cancer by design
>Why are there so few marriage worthy men these days?
Estrogens in the water
Jews
Wanking all day and night to dodgy free porn
or both
>Why are there so few marriage worthy men these days?
Society has shifted to favor women and help them along as much as possible. women now graduate high school and college at higher rates, and women under 30 make significantly more than men under 30.
Its not that there are less marriage worthy men, its that there are more women who are well educated and have been tricked by jews into committing their lives to work. Women are now the least happy they have ever been, are getting married later and at lower rates and have difficulty finding a husband because they still want a man who is of a higher social status then them. Because our society has set up springboards for women, there are less and less men that are ahead of them, meaning there are less options for these women unless they marry down. This is what they mean by "marriage worthy men".
I am 28 with a graduate degree and prestigious job. All I have to do to get women around my age is mention my career and they basically drop their pants. Then I fuck them and move on to the next one. Women have bought into the jewish lies and have destroyed femininity. Feminism has taught them women should strive to be men, and that being a slut is "empowering" and they bought it without realizing that they are ruining themselves.
>old er version of Elliot Rodger
FUCK IM STILL LAUGHING
FUCKKKK the shit you hear in Sup Forums
> I don't buy into it
> Despite experiencing it several times
I guess oxygen is a myth despite me breathing it right now.
Hit the nail on the head. Women have become men and guess what, men want their women to be women, not one of the boys.
These "scientists" should have their eyes cut out for working for kikes to destroy the souls of humanity.
Farmers tend to be highly educated (modern farming is a scientific endeavor) , self employed (few farms use stoop labor these days) and very asset rich (land, machinery, cool rooms, etc).
The main issue is academics think of farmers as peasants to be guided at best, environmental wreckers at worst. Women get their earned social status from academic achievement and absorb the attitudes of their teachers.
Cuckold.
So wanking to paid porn is fine?
After years of anti authoritarian education, SJW propaganda and low wages you honestly and unironically ask why most guys have become how society tried to make them?
They were raised weak, the economy treats them like shit and so they can't and don't even want to deal with this bullshit.
fuck 10/10 if troll 12/10 if retard this guy gave me a hell of a laugh
I was with a girl for 3 years. I was going to propose to her on our 4 year anniversary, but it turned out she cheated on me for 6 months and lied to me about it. Some women are pieces of human garbage.
This is basically it. Plus the lack of father figures because half of them lose custody of their kids. Men have no guidance or direction on how to be men anymore, just feminist lies.
Exactly.
Each one of these surveys just skips over all of what youve mentioned and its farmers = retards.
So then you have shitload of statistics how women are more educated more this more that and at the very core the men still run everything. Its incredibly unrealistic.
>some
And blokes are programmed to fuck anything with a warm hole, willing or not. The trick is to be human and have some control over your base instinct.
when you remove the incentive to marry and have a family and make the job market hell
there is no longer any reason to be anything like that
plus most of us already grew up in broken households so its ahard lifestyle to sell
it only takes 18 years to raise a new generation of men content with videogames and porn
take a bunch of 1 foot tall boxes. Stack one for each partner she's had. 1 partner =1 foot tall, 3 partners= 3 feet tall, etc.
If you'd hesitate to jump off the top, she's fucked too many guys.
Women now don't want to be the home makers. This generation of women have been brought up taught that it's wrong, and they should go to college and get jobs, join the military ect.
They aren't cut out for it mentally or physically. This results in them just being emotional unstable messes 90% of the time. They willingly threw aside their strongest quality of warming a home, in exchange for being a sub par man, who is always 2 steps away from another breakdown.
It's not attractive in any way shape or form.
i dont think men have gotten that much worse over the years. the average man has by definition always been a beta. back in the day, women would marry betas out of economic necessity; and men would be looking forward to it because the bottom hadnt yet dropped out of the market for pussy.
the bottom has dropped out of the pussy market, and indeed you can easily afford ten cats on the salary of a HR assistant.
the only real reason to commit to the pile of faults that is another human being nowadays is to breed; but sadly most people simply dont have the drive. to get their dicks wet, sure; but little innate drive to reproduce.
The good news is that catladies and waifu-pillow huggers will be purged from the genepool soon enough, until only the breeders remain.
If they dont get culturally enriched by a truck of peace before that, that is.
>why are there so few 100% perfect men?
unless the woman is 100% perfect, these men would never want to be with them anyway
Occam's Razor. Women have affairs because they are inherently sluts. Religions like Islam are oppressive to women because they are sluts.
I have my own car but still use public transport. I'm stuck in traffic either way, but one of them let's me sleep during it.
Since the 1960s, women and minorities (particularly Mexicans) flooded the workplace. Not only did this reduce the amount of jobs available to men, it drove wages down as the market was flooded with laborers. It is now more difficult for men obtain a salary that can provide for their family, as jobs become scarce and wages are driven down by competition from roasties and spics. Women are not willing to marry someone at their level or beneath them, their hypergamous nature forces them to date 'up.' This is why so few men are marriage worthy, because Jews pushed policies that eroded the traditional systems that allowed families to flourish and gender roles to exist symbiotically.
Now the genders are literally pitted against each other (in competition for identical jobs) and spics gradually drove wages down by being willing to become a permanent serf class and do jobs that otherwise would have paid a fair wage.
There is a shortage of marriage worthy women.
As a guy, If you have your shit together, you want a partner that has their shit together.
What you don't want is waste money/time on a nag. Or a woman is that is full of passive aggressive bullshit.
Many US women spend more time going to therapy, reading masturbatory fanfiction than ever stepping a foot in the gym, and bitching about things they have zero control over or unwilling to fix.
Also, renting is generally more expensive, but many guys rent for freedom. The ability to move where ever, whenever these days trumps owning a house.
If you need a dude that owns a house, a better question is why do **you** crave the illusion of stability and security so much from a partner?
SOI: owning a house
PEAT: owning stock, land, and still having the freedom to move where ever.
lmao, maybe if you hadnt been a sore fucking loser around 21-23 you could have found a virgin and married her and given it years to see if she was right to raise your kids
you are like the silicon valley morally corrupt nerd money slingers, mocking all the women around you when you STILL cant get laid and cant even take the time to find a christian girl raised properly (not like any girl should actually marry you psychotic ass)
FPBP
When I put "lawyer" in my tinder profile I started getting about 4-5x as many matches, and the average age went from 22 to 26 with most being 27-28.
When women get to 25-26 they start getting worried, but 27-28 is full blown panic mode.
The second hand embarrassment is awful. Do these ladies not realize that I get 18-19 year olds matching with me, who aren't fat yet?
28 year old chubbo with self-admitted issues thinks she's a good catch, literally the next swipe is a skinny 18 year old. LOL
>>angry middle-aged cunt who isn't getting attention from men anymore detected.
t. not 23yr old consultant with conservative wife
its ok user
Nah, it's not no fault divorce, it's not fault divorce WITH alimony.
Alimony temptation is tucking cancer on a family, and divorce rape is a real thing,
Try equities trader.
It's fucking ridiculous how their attitude changes once they figure out your job title.
>why are 80% of guys not in the top 20%? LOSERS!
The picture you idiot.
Get the fuck out of here you faggot cuck.
Theres nothing outlandish about what he said.
I dont think they realize as they cant see your phone.
certainly older women have to be aware they are competing with younger women.
"I'm going to charge $5 for my pussy when I'm in my early 20's"
"I'm going to have to increase the price as I get into my late 20's now my pussy costs $500 and subject to terms and conditions"
Bingo. This, coupled with insecurity and lack of fulfillment drives women to seek attention from shitty men using social media for confidence boosts and to live a carefree hookup life until their early thirties, at which point they realize most men can pick a younger, more attractive, and less mentally strung out woman who is more fun and probably expects less from him.
>"I'm going to charge $5 for my pussy when I'm in my early 20's"
>"I'm going to have to increase the price as I get into my late 20's now my pussy costs $500 and subject to terms and conditions"
That really sums up their delusions nicely
It's true, I'm a beta and a lot of these house whores look at me as a back up plan but I don't even like them.
>And I'm not asking this as a bait or trying to side with the feminazis
>It's always the man's fault
Newfag, lurk at least 2 years before trying to troll, otherwise you're too obvious.
Becaise women have been told they can do anything men can but in reality they are horrible at it, because of this they dont know how to take care of the home, cooking, cleaning, etc. Due to this men have to goto work then go home and do more work while being leeched on by a useless sack that consumes your money. Most 20 year old women I know cant even cook ramen noodles properly.
Feminism destroyed the family structure and has made women useless at this point.
i know women who brag about not being able to cook.
almost as disgusting as admitting you have an STD.
Sup Forums meme is now scientific fact
This exactly. My buddy was married and worked 60 hours a week and everynight he had to go home, cook, clean, take care of the kids, and do the shopping. I told him to make his wife do it and his reply was "Being a mom is hard so I am just helping out, I want my woman to be comfortable"
How was he rewarded for waiting on her hand and foot? She cheated on him and got pregnant then divorced him because he wasnt doing enough. Took half his money and his house then my buddy lived in a shitty apartment for the next couple of years and became an alcoholic.
Goes like this:
Ignore all the buzzfeed SJWs who say bullshit like "people used to have just as much promiscuity as today!" Its a lie. Prior to cheap govt subsidized abortions and reliable inexpensive birth control people had much less sex.
Risk was much higher, having a baby was a very very real risk and would destroy ones social and economic prospects if the partner was not chosen carefully. This motivated most rational people to choose partners carefully and with an eye towards permanant relationships revolving around reproduction and monogamy. In short, sex was expensive and the social trend was for mates who were chosen carefully.
Birth control and subsidized abortions blew that social model apart. Sex was now a very very cheap commodity. It quit being something with gravity that you took seriously and chose carefully. It became more or less just a hobby. If you can fuck whomever you want with more or less no consequences then why work hard for it? Why bother behaving in a stable and dependable manner if you are only attempting to attract a brief cheap one night stand? Sex became just something people do for fun and the chief consideration in whether or not you got laid quit being "is this somebody I want to live with for 40 years? Will they care for our young? Provide a stable home and nurture a family environment? Are they financially stable?"
Now that sex had become just a fun way to end a night of drinking and loud music with little to no consequences the chief consideration became "are they hot? Are they fun? Are they trendy?"
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This is a very drastic departure from most human models of reproductive strategy because IT ISNT ABOUT REPRODUCTION ANYMORE.
Somebody who spends the first 10 years behaving in "fun" ways to attract parteners is not going to be likley to have developed the more traditional behaviors required to provide a satisfactory mate or proper parenting for young. Divorce is cheap and the government subsidizes both women and children, especially women WITH children. So the risk is still negated for the female. If you remove the external stresses and risks that have been reenforcing traditional behavior then it is no suprise that the child rearing strategy will change just like the reproductive strategy did from the aforementioned reasons.
Sex is no longer risky and thanks to a legal system designed to hand parenting and resource procurement away from the fathers and over to govt then having a kid isnt as risky either. Again, if less risk is present then its only natural to assume people will place less thought care and effort into the act.
The baby partner and raising partner is a weird idea. Mostly because more advanced primate do the opposite. Chimpanzees females for instance will do a sneaky thing where they run to the kinder smarter chimp the moment they are in heat. And let the alpha have his way the rest of the time.
>10 years
My eighteen year old brother would disagree with you. Majority of girls his age have already been with around ten guys, and gave numerous blowjobs. They start as young as twelve and their is not much you can do, cause that would be slutshaming and your being a sexist and stuff
>Somebody who spends the first 10 years behaving in "fun"
ends up like a washed up slutbag that is not worth any respect not even from dogs
All that time that whore as probably getting fatter and fatter and bitchy.
This Alpha/beta/chad type stuff isnt really scientific. Its mostly buzzwords that arose from assorted bro science blogs to try and apply now discredited studies of animal behavior regarding canines to human behavior.
Ditto for the 80/20 rule (supposedly 80% of the fucking is done by 20% of the populace). Not only incorrect but also ripped off from an also incorrect industrial productivity model that tried to say 80% of work is done by 20% of the workers.
So all of these buzz words and claims are being supported by shit that itself was inaccurate in the first place. If animal packs only had an alpha beta mating structure inbreeding would quickly become a real risk if all new members of a group only come from one leading member.
Females choosing to mate with individuals other than the pack leader within the animal kingdom are thought to be evolutionary behavior for exactly that reason.
Plus were all making the assumption that early women even had a choice in who fucked them during primitive times. Almost all primitive cultures we study today have some form of the following:
>bride kidnapping or bride raids (grab one and abuse her into being your ma0te or steal one from another tribe and do the same)
>Arranged marraiges (usually by tribe leaders who determine who marries who along clan and family relation lines to avoid inbreeding)
>dowry systems (assures even distribution of resources within a small primitive group and acts to manage inheritance lines and solve intergroup conflicts. Less likley to infight if your enemy's wife is your sister or daughter)
>polygamy acts to ensure only mature and well established males have wives and ensures loyalty from younger males by forcing them to conform towards societies stability and definitions of success to get laid. (Usually used in concert with any previously mentioned systems too)
alternatively, the higher those boxes are stacked, the more unstable the structure becomes.
There aren't a shortage of these men, if anything there are more than ever. It's that women are becoming "educated" en masse, and think that their communications degree makes them a higher class of person.
If a woman has a degree she feels she deserves a George Clooney, and NOTHING short of this. Women were already entitled, their mass education just exemplified this.