How do you Nationalists justify the fact that Nationalism has never been successful?

How do you Nationalists justify the fact that Nationalism has never been successful?

Don't give me the "True Nationalism has never been attempted" either because that's no better than Socialists who claim the same thing about Socialism.

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>Says Nationalism has never been successful
>Forgets Nazi Germany ever existed.

The US pre 1965

And yet it's not around today I wonder why....

India against British colonization

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Yes, I wonder why as well.

The American Revolution was American feeling more Nationalistic about being American then being British.

Samefagging. You can't bump your own thread, faggot. Now fuck off, we're full.

Define Nationalism

The USA was founded on Individual Liberties not Ethno-Nationalism

>Is a communist
>"dont give me that true nationalism has never been attempted"
are you trying to be ironic?

Because it died on a war for destruction with communism.

Before the war, it was super successful. Rome was successful before dying as well, but now it's nowhere to be seen. Would you say it was a failure because it's not a living state anymore?

there have been hundreds of successful nationalistic nation-states throughout history what the fuck are you on about?

>Nationalism doesn't work
>the only continent without a sovereign Nation on it is Antarctica
Really makes you think.

It was founded for that. They wanted liberties for AMERICANS!

The key word AMERICANS.

Libertarians use Sup Forums too in order to escape leftist websites as well.

Clearly not what he meant by nationalism. If that were the case then all the nationalists here would be happy

because nationalism isn't a fucking political system

To add to that The United States traces its origins to the Thirteen Colonies founded by Britain in the 17th and early 18th century. ... Fighting broke out in 1775 and the sentiment swung to independence in early 1776, influenced especially by the appeal to American nationalism by Thomas Paine.

How was the USA founded for Americans? If it wasn't founded then there were no Americans, do you mean to say white/British?

Of course it was the Jews' fault it's not like Hitler declared war on "inferior" Europeans or anything.

you need to read a history book.

No. You forget the 5000 black soldiers who also fought , they were American as well.

>Nationalism has never been successful

*blocks anata path*

Nationalism has been a success everywhere it has been tried. For the average citizen that is. Not for multinational CEOs that buy off governments. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what happened

Oh you mean independence?

Antarctica belongs to Australia

Came here to post this.

You never said anything about ethno-nationalism.

this. everyone wants to be japan, even americans

America was founded as a White European ethnostate, you retard.

Yes. The war of independence was a struggle between Americans who wanted freedom because their freedoms were restricted. The restriction of freedom resulted in a nationalist sentiment which resulted in the revolutionary war. The reason why nationalism and freedom is so ingrained into the USA comes from the war of independence.

Israel.

>lives in USA
>constitution calls slaves property
>constitution calls for god-given rights of every fucking white male
>not Ethno-Nationalism
????

>Nationalism has never been successfu-

Woah... Damn...

Nope, you forgot freed blacks. The USA was never an ethnostate.

>never been successfull
>was able to fight britain, france, russia, poles and a bunch of others singlehandedly defending their country for 6 years

contries were almost always nationalistic fucking retard

Yeah, but blacks aren't human so what's your point?

Are you stupid? Rome was extremely successful. For almost a thousand years. It was only when they got lazy, stopped expanding their territory, and started letting the Jews talk bullshit on street corners about "one God" that they started to fail.

Everyone who was a Roman citizen was proud to be so. There were no fag-haired cucks out in Roman streets crying about how "Rome is Bad! XD"

Nationalism only became unfashionable relatively recently. It's been the default position of all nations for 99% of human history. Nations would never have even formed in the first place without nationalism.

You gonna show us a link of this chick getting fucked or what

>True Nationalism has never been attempte-

Woaah... I mean damn.......

Read this: archive.is/5zXNe

The 1st Rhode Island comes to mind.
My point being the USA was never an ethnostate. The Early USA is more described as a libertarian environment.

True Nationalism has never succeeded because of the whose.

>Clearly not what he meant by nationalism.
I don't care what he thinks the definition of nationalism is.
>If that were the case then all the nationalists here would be happy
Nationalists here are unhappy because sovereignty of their nation is being shit on by dumb politicians.

lel wat
>this is your mind on burgerism
Letting non Anglos in was a mistake

>Implying he ever declared an injust war on Poland\
>Implying the injustice didn't come from France and Great-Britain following afterward
Danzig was german clay, had german people living there, and Hitler was willing to even give free commercial right to the Poles for it. They refused not only his ultimatum, but his peace proposal. So did the other Allies for three years. If he didn't fail on the Eastern Front, you people would be agonizing over the "stubborness" of your leaders which would have led to the same body count, in the end.

>invade another country's territory
>it's justified lel
>Germany gets BTFO
>REEEEEEEEEEEE IT WAS DA J00S

>slaughter ethnic germans on land robbed from unjustifyed robbed land after ww1
>germans come in trying to protect their people
>WAAAAAHH THEY INVADE US REEEEEE EBIL NAZIS

You dont need facism to have a nationalistic country. Nationalism is not an ideology, but there are ideologies based on nationalism.

>Nationalism has never been successful?
>Nazi Germany brings rest of Europe to its knees, takes America and Russia to stop them
>Imperial Japan annexes all of Asia
>American/USSR nationalist rivalries bring man to the moon

Come again?

>>slaughter ethnic germans
Less evidence for this than the holocaust
>>germans come in trying to protect their people
They invaded another country after being warned not to. Their own fucking fault for getting BTFO

they always saw themselves as americans.

That's a guy.

Bait.
All successful nations have been nationalist in some way.