Like imagine for a second you're just some Marxist roaming the ghostly halls of the web and you stumble upon a wheezing Fedora who wants to debate the glorious hallowed values of the Free Market with you and begins nit-picking every single fucking thing you throw at him because you're trying to condense the essence of like nearly 200 years of political theory into a series of sentences that someone wrapped in a DON'T TREAD ON ME flag will understand. You'd need to prepare a series of boiler plate arguments on 101 shit like.
- Explaining how the workers are exploited for their Labour.
- Explaining how an I.T. worker with an iPhone is still a Proletarian.
- Explaining how Private Property and Personal Property are different.
- Explaining how the process of the Democratization of the Means of Production might work.
- Explaining and justifying the process by which that might happen.
- Explaining Hegelian Dialectics if you have time.
- Explaining the concept of Super Profits and the artificial construct that is the Western Middle Class.
- Explaining how Governing might devolve to a regional level.
- Explaining the Anarchist fracture from classical Marxism.
- Explaining why Anarcho-Capitalism is a fucking oxymoron.
- Citing examples of successful revolutions like the Paris Commune.
- Etc, etc, etc.
All the while this dude is getting increasingly angry about how you're not listening to him meme shit about Venezuela and calling you a libcuck and just completely ignoring everything you're fucking saying to him.
This is why people on the left say things like 'It's not my job to educate you.'
>This is why people on the left say things like 'It's not my job to educate you.' The real reason they say it is to imply (largely to themselves) that they're in the position of an educator, i.e. that they're right and the other guy just doesn't know yet.
Charles Foster
North Korea vs South Korea
Spoiler: Capitalism wins
William Kelly
Stop posting this stupid fucking pig, the enemy is Bilderberg
Ayden White
Shut up, faggot.
Luke Scott
>Explaining Hegelian Dialectics if you have time. please do
Elijah Cruz
imagine, that OP is always a faggot
Isaiah Scott
Why do I need any other argument than 'Every time a country has tried to move towards it, Mass death and extreme poverty have resulted'?
Ryder Jenkins
Communism is the pinnacle of society. Venezuela, your country is an excellent example of perfected Communist ideology.
Noah Hill
Because communist filth refuse to name the jew
Daniel Smith
Not sure why you're on the internet if you want to live in a marxist society since there won't be an internet. Or computers or any other technology.
Blake Barnes
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Jacob Hughes
Jews game any system
Noah Edwards
Did somebody say lefty/pol/ cringe thread?
Jayden Mitchell
Its not my job to educate you
Ethan Perry
Stop bumping shill threads you subhuman leaf. Learn how sage works go to the FAQ. Fucking newfag trash
Julian Russell
>using Chen for political shit human scum.
Isaiah Wright
>marxist, communist, materialist ye what
Aaron Ortiz
Its the jews stupid
Asher Clark
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Carter Cook
Hey libcuck
By your logic, that mean you can't refute the bible unless you read allf of it.
Happy reading!
Lucas Long
Marx was jewish, so you're a kike loving faggot That's all I got to say I don't deal with foreign cultures
Jacob Morgan
imagine the indignity that you would have to prepare a short boilerplate explanation for:
- Communism is code word for Bolshevism
Brandon Harris
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Easton Roberts
capitalism and marxism are both trash ideologies
keep fighting each other like good goys
Xavier Campbell
Surplus value objectively doesn't exist and your claims of exploitation are non-empirical. You can explain as many times as you want how being paid a wage is being stolen from--it doesn't make it true. This is why the Left is a joke.
Nicholas Myers
wouldn't take long to make the same post from the opposing switching points of view
Jayden Adams
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Xavier Ross
And that's why nobody has successfully applied socialist theory. It's not for workers. It's for university professors.
Jaxson Davis
get out communist scum rrrrrreeeeeee
Ian Barnes
fake news, the real grave is located in the public graveyard free for everyone to visit, there is another "grave" that is held by some fake commies that are charging money for people to visit his statue, his body however does not reside there
Jordan Rivera
Jews still get to drive Rolls-Royce (Lenin) it doesn't matter to the Jew what system he controls as long as you are slaves/wage slaves. Jews will still live in luxury
Jace Sanchez
viva la anarchism viva la bakunin marixists get fucked also /SAGE/
Alexander Price
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Camden Robinson
That's because regardless of how many subjects and topics you try to throw a people, the fact is that your shitty theory has only ruined entire countries like mine, even though it has existed for as you said nearly 200 years. You are a cancerous tumor and people are starting to catch up to your tricks.
Justin Lee
If you can't state your position in less than 25 pages, maybe it's because you don't have a real position. You have a complex and interlocking network of distortions and rationalizations. And it's no wonder... your track record is perfectly awful. It takes a real word-salad to hide that fact.
Josiah Edwards
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Adam Perry
Why everyone was poor in the Soviet Union for almost 70 years tho?
Ian Turner
Nope. They just used goverment to control our money supply. Also interventionism which created jewish corporations. Without goverment jews cannot gain wealth in any way except of of improving lives of people around.
Juan Rivera
Just fuck off then. Nobody is interested in your shit ideology/economyfor shit people to create a shit nation.
Connor Wilson
Y'know, I wish we could have an actuall discussion about stuff like this on Sup Forums again. Every fucking thread, including this one, is full of 15 year olds who see a commie flag and and just reply with "good goy" or "faggot". None of op's shit ever gets debated. Fucking sucks.
Eli Bennett
>not being thorough and nitpicky when discussing the future of your country Kill yourself, you commie fuck. You have to be red to be this retarded.
Kevin Collins
Imagine having read deeply into communist literature for 4 entire years for your liberal arts degree only to find out that none of it is true, and that all your prepared counterarguments for valid criticisms are actually fantasies that your fellow communists have come up with to shield themselves from the truth. Imagine learning that your entire college education amounted to nothing.
Imagine having an ideology that you spent your entire short adult life on be destroyed with just a single sentence: every time someone has tried to do Marxism, they have failed. Imagine having the conceit that THIS time, you can do it right.
Better do STEM next time.
Owen Bennett
Fortunetely I'm born in a place where being a communist leads you to being beaten up. I love culture and tradition.
Joseph Kelly
>condense the essence of like nearly 200 years of political theory >GIB! I deserve it you suburban and rural ret...err, I mean workers >writing manifestos is also work, y-you b-bigot
Condensed it for you.
Lucas Wilson
What is there to discuss? Communism DOESN'T WORK. Go read some history.
Justin Lewis
Short question, shorter answer, then longer question, longer answer.
Is planned economy central point of communism?
Xavier Gonzalez
you're free to add anything to the discussion. op said communism was good, many said it was bolshevism, now you are shutting down discourse by whining.
Liam Gutierrez
here is someone who wants to discuss you faggot. Communists deserve only one thing, death.
Josiah Evans
Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis
Anthony Morales
Goverment + Socialism = Death. Isn't this the most retarded system of thinking?
Jacob Bennett
>Explaining how Private Property and Personal Property are different.
This one is easy, private property is what communist swine wants, personal property is what communist swine already has
>Explaining how an I.T. worker with an iPhone is still a Proletarian.
I know this one too, proletarian is someone who doesn't own the means of production, so for example Will Smith or Steven Spielberg are the proletarians
>Citing examples of successful revolutions like the Paris Commune.
I know. It doesn't matter that it lasted shorter than the time the communist swine can usually pretend to give a shit about workers before he starts to hit them over the head with bikelocks. Oh, or the glorious Rojava. Nevermind the forced conscriptions, you bigot.
Hudson Scott
It's hilarious how failed an ideology Marxism is Marxists have gone from "workers of the world unite" and "communism is the inevitable end result of capitalism" to pure autistic "I'm smarter than you and you just don't UNDERSTAND Marxism but if you were smart like me you would be a Marxist too!" Pathetic
Ryder Bennett
HMMM...
Joseph Brooks
>fake commies that are charging money
Awful lot of them everywhere. It almost seems as if there never were any others. I am sure that Castro, Lenin and Chavez were only safekeeping the wealth in their vaults so that it would not get displaced somehow.
Dominic Moore
I stopped debating with communists.. I just give them this psychopatic+sadistic smile and tell them if shit goes down I'll kill as much communists and their families as I can.
Time for a reasonable debate is over. If somebody still needs to repeat the 80 years of communist failure he simply needs to be swiftly removed from this reality.
Wyatt Powell
Oops.
Camden Baker
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liguidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis
>Sdage for Nod reel gommunism. Move on do nexd coundry XDDdDDD
Ian Scott
>- Explaining how the process of the Democratization of the Means of Production might work. >MIGHT heh, you people always slip up somewhere
Bentley Morris
>imagine for a second you're just some Marxist alright, give me a second to hammer a nail into my brain
Brody Moore
Agreed.
Adam Morales
Dont forget to sage.
Chase Smith
My sides are in orbit.
Asher Nguyen
- explaining equality of outcome while still trying to sound intellectual
Jeremiah Powell
Most fiscal conservatives don't want to spend hours listening to an argument that can indeed be countered in a few sentences. And for the record, if you want to convince people that your side is right, it IS your job to educate them. Otherwise, they are going to be educated by the opposing side, and the opposing side is going to have one more vote or one more soldier, or one more wallet, depending on how societal change will be brought out.
Work on your ability to simplify abstract concepts. How the hell do you expect a dictatorship of the working class to work if the working class don't even understand a damn thing you're talking about?
