HOL UP
I just realized this.....people seriously demand 15$/hr to work at fucking mickey dees'? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK
I make 22$ (22euros) a DAY, working hard manual labor 8-10 FUCKING HOURS A DAY, repairing, fixing and painting houses.
15$/hr is 120$ per day on an 8hr shift.
Working 28 days a month this shit is ALMOST 3,500$ DOLLARS PER MOTH TO WORK AT MC DONALDS
What is going on......? Am I missing something?
Is it actually 15$/day instead of hour?
*20euros
No, it's 15 an hour. Ontario just enacted the same law.
That's why they are slowly being replaced by those touchscreen kiosk things.
Greece is poor. Your reward for socialism.
Anyway, minimum wage is a retarded idea. It will cause unemployment and is bad for the economy, con top of infringing on your freedom.
Is the cost of living that much higher over there?
Shit's pretty expensive here I make like 500-600 euros a month (on a good month) and the only luxury I can afford is internet, anything else goes to bills.
If I made 3.500euros a month I would be considered upper-middle class at worst. How much money is your middle class supposed to be making over there?
Its mental illness. the kids are crazy and lazy. bad combo. Hard work? Fuck off. High pay? Obviously. But we will need ample downtime to play on our phones between lattes.
the future is dead already.
Isnt 15 leaf bucks like 10 burger bucks?
I do the same thing you do and got 15 an hour but I don't think that I deserve more than people working at McDonalds. That job sucks and people who do it because they have limited options deserve a fair wage.
America has slightly higher living standards and prices than you.
Leftists are fucking idiots, what's new?
Also good thing having a good job in Greece man, considering that unemployment over there is ridiculously high. Are you guys going to end up leaving the EU do you think? I hope you do, that thing is a shithole.
>slightly
do people in european countries which arent in the shitter make 3000 bucks working at mcdonalds? 'the fuck?
>Is the cost of living that much higher over there?
Yes.
yeah its pants on head retarded though,
but honestly it could be raised to $9 at least
dunno m8, probably not, no one really gives a fuck or care here
this, the cost of living is retarded here. unless you are living in nigger filled ghettos you have to outrageous prices to live decently here.
is it so high that 3.5grand a month should be considered minimum wage? How much do you pay for a coke, like 20 bucks?
These restaurants are all automating in response, there's already an autonomous McDick's where I live with just one guy behind the counter and all payment/ordering is done through kiosks or online.
Also why are you doing heavy manual labor when you live in a socialist country with free tuition for bachelors deg
nobody works 28 days per month at McDonald's. also, after taxes that 15/hr is going to be about 100 for 8 hours, if they even get 8 hours per day, and if they get 5 days per week they can walk away with 500 bucks.
that's barely enough to cover rent, food, bills, and our retarded healthcare costs. long story short, America is fucking expensive.
that depends on where you live more than anything. Someone living in commiefornia is gonna have an exorbitant cost of living compared to someone in say Tennessee
my rent is 1,500$ for a 3 bedroom, plus bills ( not including groceries is almost 2.4000$ plus monthly groceries puts me at almost 2,800$ then gas for my car which fluctuates.
>I make 500-600 Euros a month
Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!
I just worked a 9 hour day. Started at 330 and ended it 1230. I got paid 1357 nok 162$. Shit tier wage by norway standards but I chose this and its only to get me through uni.
People are ungrateful swines I am just happy to have a job. I can get proper pay once I finish my degree.
>15$/hr MINIMUM WAGE
>HOL UP
>I just realized this.....people seriously demand 15$/hr to work at fucking mickey dees'? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK
>I make 22$ (22euros) a DAY, working hard manual labor 8-10 FUCKING HOURS A DAY, repairing, fixing and painting houses.
>15$/hr is 120$ per day on an 8hr shift.
>Working 28 days a month this shit is ALMOST 3,500$ DOLLARS PER MOTH TO WORK AT MC DONALDS
>What is going on......? Am I missing something?
>Is it actually 15$/day instead of hour?
That's not actually much more skilled or harder work than McDonald's. I used to do that for 5$ an hour. Also 22 Greek dollars is like 50 American cents
>Be in uni
>Free education and healthcare
>Gov pays 300 euros off my 3 something rent
>300 euros extra free money and non interest loans from which I only have to pay 70%
mfw I make money for just studying and doing nothing. I kinda feel bad for it . Now I only need to get out of this shithole so I dont have to pay ourageous taxes
>I used to do that for 5$ an hour
yeah we have albanians who will do it for 2, they will basically plug the wholes in your walls with shit and paint em over with nail polish
>Also 22 Greek dollars is like 50 American cents
burger education..I just googled and 22 "greek dollars" is an american freedom coupon for subway for a small beverage
PAY DENBTS
They deserve what the market will bear. If you're thirty and have zero marketable skills, that shouldn't be my problem.
>I can get proper pay once I finish my degree.
That's just what they tell you so that you'll be drowning in debt for the rest of your life
>Also 22 Greek dollars is like 50 American cents
wat
assuming you have a roommate or spouse that also contributes income? or why else do you have a three bedroom?
I earn 10k € as a tour guide. 20h/week
fair would be like 10..15 is ALOT...
...
No, education is "free" over there. Instead, he'll drown in taxes.
M8 m8 I'll pay tht shit off in 10 years topz. I'll even be able to get a loan for a house once I finish my degree if I don't splurge too much and I keep my job
God damn I live near the country side and my mortgage is $464 for a 3 bedroom house. All my bills combine rarely reach $900/mo. Food is about $300-$400 with 2 kids and a wife. I make $55k/yr.
its more dangerous than Mc Donald,
Its more tiring
it has a toll on your body
it needs more skills
Fuck off you McDonald oser. Don't try to say that working in Restoration is equal than beeing in contruction/manual labor ahahah thats silly!
yes obviously i have a family to provide for but i am not including things like clothes, school shit, car repairs, or anything else that wouldn't include bills and groceries and my monthly cost of living is aproaching 3,000$ a month. the op has no clue what he is talking about if he thinks that the average american is living pay check to pay check barely making it. keeping your head above water here with a family in america is damn near impossible without an amazing job
Let me just count how much I make a day real quick.
Ok, it's 19$. And it's considered not bad where I live.
I live in Vancouver.
Hordes of billionaire Chineezes have made this like the 3rd most expensive city in the world. If you rent here it's $2k for a tiny 1 bedroom apt, plus you have to pay $60 or so for hydro, $40 internet, $40 for your ripoff telecom, $120/mth++ for insurance for a vehicle, $50/mth tenant insurance, plus $100/mth medical premiums whether you see a doctor or not. The typical wage here (unless you work for the government) is $45k/year - $75k depending on expertise, a senior developer would make around $75k that's it unless you knew somebody.
Most people do not salary slave for the low wages they run their own business instead/become contractors. So OP, complaining about being paid low wages for painting would be a home renovation contractor here hired by the Chineez billionaires to repaint their mansions pink and feng shui the house knocking down walls. A friend of mine runs a balcony cleaning service that is booked for months in advance, and makes about $400/day after expenses doing so, but after taxes he's left with maybe $4k a month, which barely goes anywhere here.
tl;dr if you move to Canada don't come here unless you're a billionaire chinaman
I'd be willing to bet the person who took that photo was being a jackass and the staff were poking back at him.
I'm going to scotland and since we're outside the EU I'll have to pay 17440 bongs each year + living expenses
Get out of that trade job then you retard if you cant hack it.
Not bad for russia at all
dont worry with the way shit goes Im closer to moving to my fathers 300people village and become a self-sustained farmer
That's because your country is poor. In most advanced countries, manual labor pays well
But it's funny how even crappy jobs like mcdonald's are going extinct
In most mcdonald's here, you have to place your order through a teminal
Evidently youve never been to a McDonald's. If your rude, they spit in your food. That image is laziness commonly found by McDonald's stafg
>Be BC fag
>Work on a farm during summers
>Aquire skills untill I can do almost every job on the farm
>Job I normally do is worth 13 or so beaverbux and hour, but get 15 because if they need anything else done I can do it.
>NDP wins election
>Dumb commies want to give us a 15 minimum wage
>TFW you're going to instantly become a minimum wagie overnight if the commies have their way.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT'S NOT FAIR POUR GAS ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY AND BURN IT TO THE GROUND REEEEEEEEEE
*staff
>hard manual labor
People refuse to get actual skills to work at a real job, so they screech about how their teenager-level job should make as much as something more worthwhile.
Immigrants with zero work or communication skills have 10 kids, but don't understand that working at McDonalds is not a job designed to support a fucking family.
All raising the minimum wage does is create inflation.
One time I ordered a burger from McDonalds and told them I only wanted pickles on it, not tomatoes/etc/ The black dude at the register was like
>ayo man i know wachu mean bro i hate that shit
I got my order and went home without checking if they got it right. When I sit down to eat the burger I noticed it's literally just a bun with pickles, no patty or anything.
The fucking nigger thought that "just pickles" meant "bun with pickles"
I got in an argument with somebody recently.
I have access to management tools at the resturant I work at and we would have to fire 3 full time employees and a part timer in order to maintain labor at 20-28%. We have about 430 labor hours a week and we would have to cut down to 260 in order to keep prices the same.
Well that sounds like a lot of work.
Rent for a shitty apartment usually costs between 800-1200 / month in burgerland.
However, once everything reaches equilibrium 5-10 years after this law gets enacted, I would expect this average cost to go up, along with the cost of everything else. Gotta keep (((them))) happy after all.
If we kicked out all the illegals the reduction in unskilled labor supply & low end housing demand would render this whole discussion moot. I live in a part of the country with very few illegals; as a result the fast food places start at $9/hr or more, and small apartment or trailer is only $400 a month. That leaves plenty left over as long as you aren't stupid with your money.
>balcony cleaning
that a fucking thing?
This. If you don't have anything useful to offer society then you don't deserve a lot of money
Hurr durr.
What is a hyperbole?
What state?
grandfather is already a farmer there
>restoring a 20yo semi-abandoned house externally for 2 weeks straight, at 100 degrees was my latest job
shut the fuck up fag
Yes cost of living is really expensive
It depends where you live if you live in a state on the coast like California or New York or Florida you can expect everything to be expensive
If you live in a state in the middle of nowhere like Nebraska or Montana life will be cheap
For example a house that costs $100k in montana would be 600k in los angles, CA
But back to the poor people demanding minimum wage
the federal minimum wage is like 7.50 or 8 dollars I can't remember per hour
Yes that's per hour
However when you work you get charged tax on your paycheck and you'll get like 20-30% of it gone to the government
If you work for CASH, i.e. No paperwork involved like a field like construction or manual labor or for women taking care of kids , that doesn't happen
You have to "self report" it to the government when you do taxes and most people lie
If you're doing dangerous manual labor you can get paid 20$/hr here in California
If you do shit like climbing cell phone towers or telephone poles you can be making 60k-100k a year depending on it
This is the beauty of living in a country with a GDP of $18T
Why do you think the unskilled workers of Mexico and Latin America (and the Filipinos and Vietnamese) try their hardest to sneak into this country ?
In Mexico, the very very poor make 6$ a day
So they come here, work and send money back to their country
Oh and for the niggers, the ones who demand 15/hr
Apartment rents are like 1200$ a month
Ironically since they live off minimum wage the government gives them section 8 housing aka they get CASH subsidies to pay for like half of their rent
On top of that they get free food through EBT food stamps and free healthcare through medical Medicare etc
It's leftists. Stuff is expensive. Poor people can't afford stuff, but they work hard. So let's force businesses to pay higher wages. What about the people who already make 15$ an hour? I don't know. Check their privilege or some shit. What if someone can't find a job at all? The government should give them money. Also we need more non-white migrants so we have cheaper labor. What if no one votes for our stupid agenda? Get more non-white migrants. But don't be racist and say that non-whites vote for the left. Oh no, people are still poor. Let's raise the minimum wage to 20$ an hour.
Don't engage with these people. They're disruptors.
I rent a shitty one for about 225 here. Thank God I have no kids yet.
I think that they are so stupid they see other countries have minimum wages about $15 an hour but can't figure out how different currencies are worth less than USD
>Rent for a shitty apartment usually costs between 800-1200 / month in burgerland
That depends on where you live. In California you can get a 1 bedroom, 800sq ft apartment for $1200 a month, but if you go back east, to say Alabama (inb4) you can get a 4 bedroom, 2000 sq ft house for $600 a month.
>Am I missing something?
Inflation. $3500 sounds good until you realize that a fucking phone costs $600 nowadays.
Pretty much. I live right at the border of bc and Washington state and can never go down because of the exchange rate.
And that 1 bedroom apartment in alabama would run like $350
you don't have to have the latest fucking phone. Everyone is way to caught up with keeping up with the jones
Yeah but you're in Greece.Is like some panjeet coming on here and complaining gets paid $2 a day working in a sweat shop
Why would you buy a $600 phone if you're poor
you mean poo shop Spaniard
I mean, what a bargain!
However this beauty is nearly $200 in today's dollars.
so, which "developed" non-shit country in europe has 3000euros/month minimum wage?
>etc
saying that without mentioning the patty exclusively includes the patty as part of the collective, user, didn't your English teacher ever tell you that?
Why does stuff being expensive justify the government forcing businesses to pay higher wages? Fuck your shit, leftist.
>repairing, fixing and painting houses
>any more laudable than working at the fat joint
kek
You can get a shitty Nokia for like £25 maximum. Won't do much extra but if you're poor it'll get the job done
>jungle-stripe sizzler
LOL
A bottle of coke is like $1.50-$2.00
Prices fluctuate depending if it's on sale or not
My girlfriend is currently on vacation in Spain and she told me it's like 30 cents there
The cost of living here is high because 1) rent is high (unless you live in the middle of nowhere but why would you want to do that) 2) people spend MORE than they earn with credit cards, i.e. If I work at mcdonalds why do I want to buy a 700$ iphone? EVERYONE and their mother has the latest phone; latest laptop etc
It's a consumer culture
You gotta pay for rent, your car payment , your food , your phone bills etc etc
The problem is people here don't want to be frugal
Especially the poor people
Life in let's say California is VERY hard without a Car
You gotta pay for gasoline too etc
Ironically they passed a law a few years ago that allows illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses in California
And this too, they usually work part time work which is 4 hours a day, because if you're full time employee (8 hours a day) the company is required by law to give you benefits like health care
You see the problem with leftists is that they argue that raising the minimum wage isn't bad because it's just taking more profit out the pockets of the corporations
I agree somewhat but I just think the niggers don't deserve 15$ an hour for sitting on their ass and getting my order wrong
A 15$ minimum wage doesn't hurt mcfaggot, but it does hurt local businesses that struggle to get by
I know right?
Fuck houses and humane living conditions and caring about your property and shiieeet
but how will I use snapchat, tinder, instagram and facebook?
I didn't say "no tomatoes, etc." when I ordered it
I told him "just pickles"
if he's retarded enough to think that means just a bun and pickles then he shouldnt be working there
It is when you live in a highly regulated city where you aren't allowed to have water drip down to other balconys, so he steam cleans them. Almost everybody here lives in some shitty postage stamp sized apartment in the sky with a tiny balcony.
Plus people here work so much you have no time to clean your own balcony, or your own house, hence the whole gig economy bullshit or grocery delivery, house cleaning, balcony cleaning, pet walking..
Reduce that by about 23 percent and you get the actual number. You have to account for taxes.
a phone costs $25 where I live
$80 if you want all that fancy touch screen "smartphone" shit
or maybe he's the perfect employee for the place, considering today's society
You live in Greece, here you're lucky to have a shit job that pays you garbage. Here in America, we can afford to pay our employees 15 instead of 7 dollars an hour, but then I would only be able to buy 2 Big Mac's a day instead of 3, so it's bad for business.
Hope you understand, it's not just poor people being greedy, it's also that we live in a country with a functioning economy.
>Ironically they passed a law a few years ago that allows illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses in California
I know. Fuck this state.
why don't you just loot some cunts boat and get a free phone my Somalian friend
you require a phone to work in pretty much every job now
so thats $200 for an entry level model or you have to get credit checked to take out a monthly plan
I can also word working at the burguer joint as "feeding people"
Any nigger can do the job you do. In fact, they do.
if your are a poor cunt you don't need an expensive phone for work. If it can take calls and txt then that's fine for work to contact you
You can get ones for less than $200, but that has nothing to do with him saying you need a $600 phone
So you are saying wages make jobs disappear? If the government can price you out of your job you aren't doing anything useful. Employers especially those with multinational ad campaigns can pay $15 an hour.
No they dont you moron. The only thing you reveal saying shit like that is that you never owned/rented a house you actually cared about and youre still living with your parents.
Lol hard manual labor.
What cucks
LMAO