Are there any traditional women out there?

In this descivilized society full of people that think in short-term, this society that rejects virtue, order and estability and embrace vices, hedonism and chaos.

Is possible in this society just have a relationship based on something more than empty sex that would fulfill just the short-term emptyness?

Nothing about this shit they sell us as "free love" but is nothing more than sexual slavery. Not this empty girls that just want some easy affection they were deprived.

Just a rational woman, someone capable of thinking in long-term, someone who think in share virtues and knowledge, to make a healthy and orderly family...

Shit. Fuck this modern world.

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My gf is traditional and I meet her in a Catholic Church.

But I guess it all depend on where u live.
In my local Church people are pretty Conservative

> Women are a degenerate whores by nature.
> Patriarchy fixes them.
> Recreate a far-right society to fix women.
> ????
> Profit

Spain, full of feminist bitches and marxists.

> Women are a degenerate whores by nature.
Actually I don't think so

>> Women are a degenerate whores by nature.
Source?

Stadistically women during the Medieval period cheat less than men.
Genetic studies have show that women didn't mix with men outside of Europe until the modern era.
Women were among the most religous of all

Women are degenerate just like men in a modern time.
Or does Anons in Sup Forums don't jerk off to porn? That's also degenerate

Women in their nature are pure like men

>wants no sexual slavery
>demands woman give up her carreer, agency, and financial independence.
>isn't compensated
>as a result has to do everything you say or risk being thrown out for being "Degenerate".

Just because the current system sucks doesn't make it slavery, you're the one advocating slavery

No man, you need to find a society that still has those value and are proud of them. Russia, thanks to Putin still has these value's.

>>demands woman give up her carreer, agency, and financial independence.
Where

This is true, Spanish women are very blue pilled.

Wtf is that picture? People who draw/think stuff like that need to be exterminated desu.

this is what most of pol wishes when discussing a woman being traditional. stay at home mother. of course being a mother is important, but without a career, with pol in charge, that leaves men with all the power, investments to protect. etc. Women are expected to work for free for their husbands, recieve no wages, and have him control all the finances. This means if shit goes up creak she's out on the street, and with no careers she has no one to turn to because she's not a young virgin anymore, a traditional woman's only marketable qualities now that spinning yarn is done by machine. if you think otherwise that's fine but this is the majority of pol's position.

nope. they've all been BLACKED

Yes, humans have been doing this for thousands of years, what makes you think anything else will work?

Women don't have opinions, therefore they can be neither traditional nor degenerate. They are what they are taught to be, therefore you must teach a woman before she becomes degenerate, to be traditional.

why do you think you have any hope against black men?

Actually the true traditional woman work outside home. Te full-time house-labour wife were bourgeois or middle-class worker women who wanted to imitate bourgeois women.

I'm not against women working outside home.

True.

How do you go from this...

to this.

women in pol's view should have about the same ammount of agency. they will just delude themselves into thinking they will "like" their new place

It depends tho, girls from Galicia and Asturias (who come from small towns like Vigo and Lugo) tend to be very loyal and based because in those areas spanish men are not manlets. But if you go to La Coruña dios mio, shit is lost.
I am not even going to talk about Catalan and Andalusian women, they are niggers with straight hair.

Oh i am not here to argue with you on weather it will result in what you want, I am here to argue that it will make women quite unhappy, where as most of pol deludes themselves into believing marrying someone your parents told you to and obeying your husband in all ways is a wonderful fulfilling life. oh well, at least pol is pro gun.

Yes, they just don't (and probably wouldn't) browse Sup Forums, or leddit for that matter.
t. Husband of a traditional woman

Why even bother pursuing women? Women won't be needed anymore once artificial wombs are invented.

You mean niggers? Well I don't care much about them really. But I don't wish to come in contact with people that are... civilly challenged

Yes.

They just don't exist in Europe or the USA.

humans have been worshiping gods for thousands (scratch that, hundreds of thousands) too.... went from "gods make the water fall" to "the sun heats the water to evaporate into a gas where is raises and is absorbed by the clouds before falling back to earth in liquid form" ..... tradition isn't always good

Civilization cycle.

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>Women are expected to work for free for their husbands
No, what they're expected to do is use their time at home to provide care and education for their own children. "Housework" is some of the least laborious shit one could possibly do and takes very little time nowadays. Apart from that, they're free to do whatever. Take classes, shitpost on Sup Forums, pursue hobbies etc. If the husband dies and they don't have any skills afterwards, that's their own damn fault. Not like it even matters since there basically is no country outside of Africa without public welfare.

You think women were unhappy for thousands of years? I don't understand your logic.

You just went full retard burger.

I am glad you are not a history denier, most of pol truly believes women did not have careers in pre-machine times. No freedom, but they where not jobless. they spun yarn, weaved clothing, bleached cloth, and many other crafts.

Most of pol think's the world of the 1950s is the same as the 1700s

The reason you're safe at home in a building that keeps predators outside is all thanks to religion. Without religion we wouldn't get out of tribes. Atheism is only gaining numbers since a few decades, how come you think it works better?

>The only human beings have is through material value and money.

Get off kike.

Religion might inspire people to be more philanthropic, but it hinders science. fucking ruined stem cell research, and cloning because "muh ethics"

I think most people where not happy for thousands of years, but yes, that would include women who would have no say in their lives. like all things, their lives got better or worse as time passed. but those better times are your enemy, for they where a time of acceptance of female education and tenuous seeds of equality.

and what do u mean "religion got us out of tribes?" agriculture got us out of tribes and allowed us to build civilizations

I was dating a girl for a couple weeks.

Then she slept with her black personal trainer one weekend.

This inclines me to answer "no"

Then you understand my complains?

Well yeah, if you could think at least 1 step ahead, couldn't you understand that cloning is bad for ethics?

Basicly, if they can make clones, what's the purpose of you living, reproducing and contributing to society. You could just as well be dead.

Don't people think about these stuff?

Im thinking about joining a church youth group just for this reason

>Stadistically women during the Medieval period cheat less than men.
yea when whites kept our bitches on a leash, now not so much

Tribes is built on r-selected strategy. Religion is built on k-selected strategy. 1 man, 1 woman, no struggle for reproduction, so men can focus on increasing resources, women can focus on raising children.

Have you no common sense at all?

Of course we're out there.

yes that is the case, for you are arguing against welfare yourself. if you think women have some inherent value, especially used goods women, why do you require from them to have access to this wealth you think is worth scoffing at? why don't you give this poor woman a home and a job so that she can have a roof over her head without being beaten by her husband or forced to whore at as a prostitute? i'ts becuase society values money, You can laud a good mother all you like, but her husband is the one who decides ultimately if she is good or not, and if she gets kicked out, you are not going to feed her, clothe her, or give her work. until you do, you cannot say money is not king, money is all a woman bareft of her best years and virginity can never hope to make. the only way to provide her own livelyhood.

>is what most of pol wishes when discussing a woman being traditional. stay at home mother. of course being a mother is important, but without a career, with pol in charge, that leaves men with all the power,
So what women dont do anything important in human society except for making babies

>marrying someone your parents told you to
Let's be honest here, parents are usually better matchmakers than women themselves.

>obeying your husband in all ways
Strawman. People that say that here are usually religious fundamentalists or extremist memers. Just because a relationship is traditional doesn't mean it's BDSM master/slave shit.

whats the purpose for living now? to birth an offspring just so he can do the same? the only thing religion does is give us purpose... i think highly atheist countries have higher suicide rates... fucking fragile minds. as far as i see it, expanding what we know as truth (not myths and gods) is our only real goal right now

I've met a couple traditional women.

Pretty much you have to have connection with a very low-profile traditionalist church and strong community ties.

what if I get bored watching porn

I despise hook up culture, and prefer rationalism and intelligence, though I am definately not attracted to men.

You're wasting time expanding truth. Yes, our only goal is to birth offspring, what is there to whine about. Stop interfering other people's effort and contribution and go expand the truth somewhere else.

what religions? bc islam sure isnt that way XD maybe a few but not religion in general

Ive been in two different long standing relationships in my life, both of which were with very traditional woman. Neither used the internet very much, both had fairly traditional friends who also werent online save for recipes or the rare news story. Both came to their sensabilities without any redpilled threads being pushed on them.

Get off the internet, go outside. Youre looking in the wrong place.

Maybe if you're a shit provider.
I doubt Melania or Ivanka Trump would be heard complaining about their tragic enslavement.
Even a middle class, $90k/yr Joe Schmoe's wife probably has it pretty well if their marriage isn't hanging on by a thread. Some guys I know through work have their wives work with them in the office, and they're probably even better off financially than my wife and I.
>in pol's view
There's your problem. You could probably name specific people in specific posts that genuinely have a view of woman like that, but trying to blanket everyone posting anonymously to some specific anonymous person, assuming you have one in mind with that claim, is entirely unreasonable.

That's bullshit because for literally all of civilization social dynamics have made women significantly more valuable and in control of majority of things despite providing no material wealth.

The modern woman doesn't do jack fucking shit except suck dick and they are still lauded as heroes.

early science (farming) made complex civilizations possible, not religion... close your book and go seek answers yourself grandpa

Female minds are pretty much carnal in nature anyways. Just feed them, take care of them and don't take them too seriously.

have you ever been sick XD the preist didnt heal you, ya know

>No, what they're expected to do is use their time at home to provide care and education for their own children. "Housework" is some of the least laborious shit one could possibly do and takes very little time nowadays. Apart from that, they're free to do whatever. Take classes, shitpost on Sup Forums, pursue hobbies etc. If the husband dies and they don't have any skills afterwards, that's their own damn fault. Not like it even matters since there basically is no country outside of Africa without public welfare.
first of all, all of this discussion is your desire for society, so current welfare schemes are irrelevant, you will dispose of them as you would womens rights. you are correct that taking care of a home is quite easy work in a sense, but unless she can actually get a job in your society, it wont be her fault she doesn't have any skills if the only hireable people are men period. Pol wishes to ban women from careers and jobs, keep them in the home by force of law. they are not free to take classes as you say nor persue hobbies. those cost money she doesn't produce, and so she is again at your feet, dependant on your approval for it.

Islam isn't that way? You just threw your common sense back it the garbage. How come Islam reproduces almost 3x as much as atheistic cultures?

In what way is this not a successful religion?

Ahh, not alone in this shitty society

he was talking about monogamy you fucking inbred, catch up

Remember that many Churchs are liberals. If you encounter this just try another one. is 50/50

You see, you gotta think a little deeper than that you arrogant millenial prick. To come to the conclusion to where we apply farming needs a certain motivation. Atheïsm gives 0 motivation to people to even try. That's why your generation are lazy good for nothing bums.

This was just for blow of steam.

>Remember that many Churchs are liberals

many protestant churches are, im thinking more catholic

By nature no because if they do so in the wild they sign they're death warrant.
As in you can't survive in the wild pregnant without a reliable guy. They're whole life is a lie.

Beware youth groups. Had one a bunch of people in my old high school went to and all they did was pop ecstasy before meetings and have sex on the vacations.

When I go out I see BMWF couples and some single white mom with their little nigglets
:(

This

When did humans live in the wild tho?

I guess you just have to find a degenerate girlfriend and make her traditional. Like Liam Hemsworth did to Miley Cyrus.
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In nature women would join harems of the alpha males and most men would get barely any. It can't be that way if society is going to function so patriarchal societies and marriage fix this issue and allow civilization to exist. Anything else is doomed to failure.

Don't mind those people, you should be focusing on yourself. Did other empires bother with the roman empire before it fell, no. This is not about race anymore, it's about what virtue's you have. If you're a man of virtue's that hold a society strong, you must stand for those value's, and just ignore degenerating part's of the society and don't mingle with them.

>So what women dont do anything important in human society except for making babies
while I loath you, I laud your honesty, the so what in your post is to be answered with something I already said some 3 times; most of pol has convinced themselves that women have equal value to men and that they value them as home makers and mothers, but have nothing to say when they are confronted with the inequalities and lack of agency nor sacrifice of it in the husbands case. They feel that "liking" something is the same as "Valuing" it. Valuing something is dependant on what you are willing to give up. that is why money is central, because in our society, money IS the most basic form of agency.

>Strawman. People that say that here are usually religious fundamentalists or extremist memers. Just because a relationship is traditional doesn't mean it's BDSM master/slave shit.
You are correct, after all, the bdsm culture would at least acknowledge that the woman is worthless or lesser. You are quite wrong and that is not a strawman, most of pol doesn't want women to vote, and thinks they should have less rights than equal (not compared to now but from a pure equal position). if this is religious extremisms, then 60-70 % of the board is as such.

Women must obey her husbands not becuase you have a bdsm kink, but because she has no leaverage, no agency, no money, nothing marketable. her only value was her virginity and childrearing and beauty, she (the family) had to pay you money just to get married to you, and now that she is, you are all that stands between her and homelessness for the rest of her life. she will obey you, and you will be unable to act as anything but a defacto Master to her enslaved self as long as you deny her agency; money for her hard work, and human rights to make it liquidate-able. Without it she is stranded with you and must obey you. She has no choice in marrying you as we discussed. Without agency she is a slave. repackage it all you like.

>Cyber Sec. engineer
>bum
>lul

how the fuck do you meet people in a church? I go to church on Sundays but I don't know anyone there, because people basically go to mass and then immediately go out

Being this uneducated

When did humans live like grazing animals you retarded germ? When did humans ever live out of a community without being hermits?

"Hi, user! Are you ready for our coffee date tonight at Barnes and Noble? I can't wait to debate the atheists in the science and philosophy section, they need to learn to accept Jesus Christ into their hearts. Lets hold hands when no one is looking on the bible aisle!"

>ad hom shitpost
go home assbandit

Majority of human history was spent in nomadic herds, basically groups of monkeys walking around killing and eating everything.

I think woman have like five years when conditions is extremely important to be right, say 13-18. I don't mean this in a pedo way but girls that attach to a man at this age seem to remain faithful and retain decency. Religion seem important too, much more for woman than men, and of course they should not be having carriers unless it's some 140 iq outlier with good sharp qualities.

Maybe you should visit Africa or something, I can't believe someone can be this ignorant without being a troll.

GODDAMIT POST TITS ALREADY

Tread lightly, my youth group is full of shitbrains that just cause drama and shit on traditionalism

be proactive asshole
interact before it starts, quickly move to interact as it ends
if you don't look like a fucking goblin, they'll acknowledge your existence

pick which hill you wish to die on with greater care, OP. find a nice church and ask the elders to hook you up. it's not even difficult as long as you remain true to your own fuckin word.

13 to 18? Where the fuck do you base your numbers on. You don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah it doesn't work like that when you have a welfare state.
My money still finances free abortion n shieet. I'm living amongst leeches of all sorts.

They still lived in cohesive community. They maintained a family unit, if your male partner died, your family would tend for your needs.

For the biggest part of our evolution....
Also, it's the by default state. How things would turn to if we were to lose everything.
A society can't rest on comfort, it must rest on survival and never take the present day for granted.

>women

interesting shit-post, faggot...

bless her huge heart, she spent all that time on hair and makeup

Still doesnt mean nothing. Ad hominem takes you nowhere. Stay safe untermensch.

>I doubt Melania or Ivanka Trump would be heard complaining about their tragic enslavement.
what makes you think any of that money is for her? theyre your investments, she will get what you decide she gets, ivanka and melania live in a modern world, an unfair one for men where they can leave with their husbands value if they are not treated right. This is a law and system pol hates, and to some extent, I agree with them, but without careers, that option is just another closed door, a woman cannot gain any divorce money, pol would not wish it, she can do nothing but obey her husband. Her husband will protect his investments because it is his hard labor and hours that got him that money, and the woman was of little help, as previously discussed only raising children and tidying a home.

>blankets are not far reaching
they are reaching enough that more than half of pol believes women need to be treated inferior to men and denied voting rights. they hate divorce law as it stands and consider careers for woman to be cancer. There are doubtless dessenters, many of them. but you are no where to be seen when the arguements break out, nor when the polls get posted. if the number of people in the united states who didn't vote for hillary or trump or anyone, but wanted hillary to win, would you consider their nonvotes to have value?

yes, women are valuable, but not valued. they are exploited like a resource, like man power in war, or spices in trade. they do not reap the benefits of this, their husbands do.

I cannot argue that many modern women are reprehensible, as are modern men, but I know which era I would rather live in, and it's not in the past.

Just ignore them and keep voting for where you believe in. If shit hits the fan, we can still move to another country where they still hold those value's strong.

So living in a village of 200 people is living in the wild for you? I remember 2013 when pol wasnt this retarded. This new blood really fucked us.

That sounds like fun.

I agree with OP, our society needs to stop promoting whore values as a positive trait.

Women who dress like sluts are the worst.

Next time I see a woman in yoga pants I'll ask her if she is working out or worked out today.

If she says no, ill call her a whore to get face.

This shit has to stop and I dont think it will unless their shit gets called out.