Never realized how big this problem was until a person i used to talk to in high school recently OD'd. why is it becoming such a huge problem what do (((they))) gain out of this?
It's such a problem its affecting the workforce. Even the fed came out and said they can't reach full employment with this being the issue.
Interesting study that isn't really talked about. With a ten day supply of these pills 1-5 become addicts.
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Read Dreamland by Sam Quinones.
A thorough and good read about the opioid epidemic.
Oh, and if you do in fact read it, you'll come out the other end with a burning hatred of illegal Mexican immigrants.
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This explains it pretty well.
Broken families/no community leads to drug abuse to fill the emotional "hole".
not a problem with a little self control
I freely admit that I'm a total loser from /r9k/ but there's nothing wrong with enjoying a nice line of dope with weed on the weekend.
dope just isn't something for every day.
also you don't have to shoot up
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Supply and cost incentive. I was listening to some Jew doctor trying to explain it on NPR the other day and he was just so completely wrong. NPR is nothing but Jews anyway. I have a doctor in the family and he's more correct about the situation.
But my old HS friends know what the real deal is. We never had shit and oversupply this strong. It's not necessary. It's supposed to be like you get your wisdom teeth out and you get a one-time bottle of codine that you don't need so you have a little bit of fun on the side or maybe sell it off if you don't care for it.
Because the big pharma kikes want more shekels and more non jews dead.
A genocide of the kikes is the only answer.
Society is shit.
>what do (((they))) gain out of this?
Money and dead whites its pretty ideal for (((them)))
>dope just isn't something for every day.
Dude stop i distinctly remember telling myself that while i was in the process of getting hooked
I took econ 101 from an internationally famous kike professor.
I'll never forget the reaction of the class when he explained supply and demand by saying plenty of people shoot smack on the weekend and never get addicted.
>u wot m8
>what exactly does that have to do with supply and demand?
But I guess that was back when societal norms hadn't quite degraded this far. That was back just before trading prescription drugs like pokemon cards was the main thing you did at school.
That's true though. People do smack intermittently and don't get addicted.
Addicts do smack and die. Same with alcoholics.
We have an addiction problem not a use problem.
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They gave me my life back from cripiling pain. Been on them a year with strict schedules and 2 week breaks every few months. Like everyhing fags will. be fags. Pot addiction is no different.
That might be true, but why would you even say that to a bunch of college kids?
And we're not talking about cooking up a spoonful of smack anymore like in the movies.
I'll never forget how discussion about Jew pills on Sup Forums went from a stigma against them to talking about it being the good shit.
It's pretty simple. It is huge in economically depressed areas with high unemployment (see "Rust Belt"). Areas that have been reliant about 25-30 years ago on industries like steel mills, aluminum mills, coal mines and related industries have seen those industries disappear or become greatly diminished. Leading to low unemployment and reliance on government aid. Whole generations moved away. All that is left is minimum wage and depression. To alleviate depression, people turned to alcohol, painkillers, weed, and heroin to escape from their worthless existence. You can go to any Rust Belt town or city in the USA and find a high rate of addiction and overdoses. If big business and Jews weren't so hell bent on destroying the middle class and maximizing profit from good goyim imports, none of this would have happened.
*high unemployment
So true. One of my HS friends wound up going to a rustbelt school. So many funny stories about getting drunk and doing literally anything they could think of to avoid the depression and hopelessness. But that's how he eventually wound up in AA.
At least he didn't wind up like some of my other HS friends who got hooked really eventually on H and then wound up in really bad places in life.
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> This form is for new applicants. Any person who does not currently possess a DEA registration to conduct business with controlled substances in the following categories may access the application form. The categories of applicant who can apply using this form are manufacturers, distributors, researchers, canine handlers, analytical laboratories, importers, and exporters.
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Have you considered that perhaps (((they))) is not actually a monolithic jewish hivemind set on the destruction of all you hold dear
and maybe it's just rich pharmaceutical companies using shortsighted methods of getting people hooked up their cheap painkillers so they can keep making money so this quarter's report looks better even at the expense of the years ahead?
>why is it becoming such a huge problem
Available addictive drugs + social isolation = addiction problem. Read the book or visit the website of "Chasing the Scream" a new look at addiction. This doctor's experiments with rats shows that social isolation is just as important as the classic addictive properties in determining whether or not an individual will become addicted. You know it's true, else doctors would never have used opiods at all if everybody was going to become an addict.
Availability brings to the second part of your question.
>what do (((they))) gain out of this?
(((They))) gain;
destruction of social fabric, creates need for "government intervention" (think war on drugs)
jobs for the DEA and others
power in the form of back channels and dark money for black ops (((CIA)))
Only thing that can stop it is mass incarceration of addicts in camps, and an Naltrexone Implant, by force, if necessary.
But, surprise, surprise, these implants haven't been approved by the FDA yet.
As someone who grew up in the 90's I'm unsure. People were dropping like flies back then. I moved to Colorado about 2yrs ago and it's actually a pretty big problem here. I live in the springs too which is a military town. I can only imagine how bad Denver is. I guess it's a self correcting problem. They pretty much all eventually OD
There have been several people back where I'm from that have Od'd over the years. Back there, if you don't work in a coal mine, chem plant, oil/gas company, or electric utility, you're stuck at Dollar General or McDonalds. Even the hospitals pay pretty shit wages there and are run poorly. Its the same in all rust belt towns though. Thriving from the 30s to the 70s, then the decline to welfare communities.
>what is ibogaine treatment
The answer is people are fucking stupid and ruin their lives on drugs. Maybe if they invested in an education and had decent parents who taught them not to be such fucking losers they would achieve something other than death in their lives.
Unfortunately, the fact that they can't go work in some shitty coal mine like pa means they just decide to get fucked up all day rather than work like a decent American.
Na, that's just propaganda. Most of the heavy addicts didnt come to addiction through legal meds. They got addicted because they used harder and harder party drugs.
Most addicts made a choice one day to use. Although, I am sure a lot of it is undiagnosed or improperly managed mental health issues.
Side note: Narcan should be rationed. You get it for free one time. After that, they let you die.
I love how many blond haired people ate here, though in Old colorado where I'm at is full of hippies/sjws.
>Only thing that can stop it is mass incarceration of addicts in camps
>Only thing that can stop it
What utter rubbish and foolish thinking.
Are you going to deny the reductions both in number of addicts and drug related crime achieved by Portugal?
>Even the hospitals pay pretty shit wages
damn dude you just made me have feely feels from one time I wound up being like some kind of temporary life coach to a guy trying to straighten out his life going to school to be a nurse while having a debilitating opioid addiction.
I don't know what happened to him in the end. As usual not the best situation at home and damn did he just need somebody to talk to. I hope he's ok.
We lead dreary fucking lives with no meaning, couple that with no morals, no traditions and no family in a globalist world you end up seeking refuge in escapism, for some that's anime, for others drugs.
What does 'dope' mean in this context? Don't be so fucking uneducated about drugs that you can't even name the poison that could very well ruin your life.
"Self control" goes right out the window over the course of a few months. Do not count on being among the tiny minority that handle doing hard drugs without going off the deep end; most people have two choices, get out or get fucked.
I got out, but honestly my life is fucking terrible which is what drove me into these things in the first place, so I'll probably end up getting back into them in a few years before jumping in front of a train.
Not necessarily a defining factor. Norway being one of the richest countries also has the largest population of opioid addicts in Europe.
Where's the point of no return?
We nail that coffin and maybe vampires will stop leeching.
I think it's funny. I see the local news having a special report about a bad strain of heroin going around. It's hilarious I'm screaming at the TV!!!! DONT WANT TO DIE DONT DO IT!! HOLY FUCK!
And the news will give a report about bad heroin as opposed to not do it.
Then there was a special report that the cops and EMS have a new drug narcam to help with overdoses.
Just don't fuckin do it holy fuck guys!!!!!
>I got out, but honestly my life is fucking terrible which is what drove me into these things in the first place, so I'll probably end up getting back into them in a few years before jumping in front of a train.
As I said above in Social isolation is a huge component of addiction problems.
I've been on the merry-go-round of addiction with heroin in my youth, and morphine/ delodid when my wife had cancer and died. The natural course of addiction is to grow past it or die.
Every day you wake up is a new chance to change your life for the better or worse. Its a decision you make, and you alone have that choice.
The only constant thing in the universe is change.
>Most of the heavy addicts didnt come to addiction through legal meds. They got addicted because they used harder and harder party drugs.
I've seen both. I haven't been in the drug scene for a while but there's no question at all to me that the guys who got somewhat messed up on pills and almost made it out are also the same ones that eventually lost it.
Maybe the party drug people weren't a lot better, but more of them grew out of it.
>messed up on pills and almost made it out are also the same ones that eventually lost it.
Pills are still party drugs. Theyre just obtained off the street. You can get anything from your local dealers. People get legit scrips and sell half of them to buy their next scrip...
Its due to the niggers. Shit use to be contained in their neighborhoods but with retarded liberal politicians, they decide to move public housing into white neighborhoods because they think it will reduce crime, that somehow being around whites will make niggers better people. Instead you now get niggers pushing their drugs in white neighborhoods and the kids eat it up. Property value goes down, crime is no longer contained in certain areas, crime goes up, and more people get hooked cause sheckleburg who lives in an all white gated community with a private police force thought niggers would stop being niggers in good neighborhoods.
Oh boy here comes "more" government overlords.
Fuck addicts. Let "em die. Drugs aren't the problem. Stupid assholes are the problem.
They remove working-class whites to make room for imported shitskins. Simple.
>I guess it's a self correcting problem
Wrong. The government developed narcan to reverse the overdoses. Cant make any money if demand died out because users died out.
>but more of them grew out of it.
it takes years to grow out of it, and that's if you don't get busted and are just allowed to let the addiction take it's natural course.
The availability of cheap high grade heroin from our US guarded fields in Afgansitan have contributed. The cheap fentanyl with easy access from China is helping to kill the addicts because of it's extreme potency.
The cocaine epidemic was aimed at the black inner city and this opiod epidemic is aimed at the suburban and rural whites. Both were methods of the general destruction of American society needed by the (((globalist))) agenda.
Sorry for the misunderstanding in terminology.
What I mean by "pills" are ones that you get a prescription for, and, in particular, opiods (or opiates desu I don't remember exactly the right terms from when I had a passing interest in neruopharmocology).
When I think "party drugs" I think back to a time before there might be DXM in your E. Not when you were eating paxil by the handful, you didn't know what to do with this spare fentynal patch your dad got that was too strong for him, the bottle of oxy for god knows what reason people need oxy, a free handfull of vics, and then thinking maybe it'd be cheaper and easier to just snort some H because, hey, it's not like you're shooting up!
Army or air force? I just left the springs in February after 13 years. Legal weed brought all the wrong kind of talent to that town. It should be legal. But god damn do retards make that their entire life's focus.
CO Springs has an AF training academy+base
Anyone addicted to opioids should seriously consider Kratom. It keeps withdrawal at bay and its more or less harmless.
America controlled 90% of the world's heroin for a decade, but heroin is cheap and illegal. Heroin pills are legal and expensive. Do the math, dumbshit.
It has 3 af bases an army base and norad. Acdemy, pete, shreiver and norad.
doctors got people hooked on purpose it is a white problem the blacks have their on stuff (crack I dunno) but it is my belief it is affecting the states where all the jobs were taken out of the country - the politicians and/or (((they))) wanted the white peoples demise in middle america-
this situation is fucking disgusting. In Toledo some white middle class mother gave her 11 year old daughter to her dealer - some shit negger to fuck - that is the power of this opioid shit
>should seriously consider Kratom.
I just recently heard about this stuff. Wish it was around while I was going thru withdrawl. You have to understand the first time I had problems was 40 yr ago and things like Kratom weren't widely known or available.
I've got guys I used to know in prison for pretty serious crimes that took a few years to work up to.
>get told by a friend of a friend that his dad who works for the local police saw a certain name on the list of priority targets
Wow, I forgot how nice it was to to grow up in a town before drugs got out of hand
Actually I don't even want to go on from there. But they don't shape up and then they're in police reports and that's about the last you've heard of them until somebody emails you a court record or something.
"Red" kratom, right? any tips for online sources? They sell it at my local ((("""smoke"""))) shops but I'm sure that stuff is marked-up 2-3x
And Carson is the army one
Last I heard COS was number 2 next to DC for being under threat of nuclear attack because it has such a high density of military personel
>fentynal patch
My sister who's a nurse has a stash of these., Always offering me a few whenever I get a backache or something. No thanks sis.
I worked with a guy once who stole his moms patches, would slap one on and then proceed to do the most physical labor possible. I asked him why he did this. "I get a better buzz that way" SMDH. I also asked him what his mom does for pain now that he's stolen all of her patches. (stupid grin is all he had).
As bad as it is to mention Reddit around here, check out the subs for Kratom. Plenty of good quality vendors in the stickies. Some /fit/ fags might have some experience with it as well if you ask around there.
Kratom is all amped up these days like anything else, so I would have to recommend being wary of smoke shops in the same way you'd be wary of fucking yourself up on spice instead of just regular weed that anybody can get.
It never did anything much for me. A lot of people think it's a way to get knocked, and it's not. But it's worth looking in to as a way to work off an addiction just like if you're hooked on cigs and you can back it down to safe vaping then you're pretty much a success story.
>I had problems was 40 yr ago
Papa is a drug addict Grangran.
I agree with you 100% on the social isolation part, I feel it every day. Somehow I got a job this spring, but my social life does not extend beyond my mother, and it hasn't for years. When it comes to talking to people I'm like a piece of wood.
The only thing I actually look forward to in life is smoking weed and doing lsd, which are the two drugs I allow myself to do after quitting everything else, also because I otherwise end up drinking instead.
Fuck it, you seem like you have some experience with these things. I cut off my best and only real friend, who was also the person who introduced me to drugs and the subhuman community that surrounds it. I haven't seen or spoken to him in two years, I used to have really vivid dreams about him and still do sometimes, and now two weeks ago he suddenly calls me and wants to meet.
I'm not really sure what to do, I don't even know if it would be worth it to salvage that friendship even if that is still possible at this point.
At the same time I miss having someone to talk to, and I probably wont be able to make any new friends elsewhere.
I'm not in the military. We don't have legal weed here, you have to go to manitou. I know Denver supposedly went to shit. I'm from the Dallas/Fort Worth area and for such a small city the springs has a really bad homeless problem
read this thread on dr. jack krus facebook page and learn.
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this. It won't fuck you up or anything like people think. It just boosts mood and focus. You can get a "buzz" off of it, but you can do that with caffeine too. It doesn't mean its pleasant. If you have anxiety, opiate addiction, depression, chronic pain, or just need a little bit of stress off your shoulders check it out. Get it from a good vendor though.
Don;t be such a pussy, just because you have no conviction and the mental fortitude of a nigger doesn't mean everyone else is as weak as you
t. millionaire who just had a nice shot if hydromorphone and is in no way addicted to opiates.
I probably wont have another shot for a month or two.
That's always a hard call to make. I burned a lot of bridges myself. I haven't let any of them back into my life. What benefit to your life would it have besides an outlet? Its one of those staring at the abyss, the abyss stares back kind of things. They may also be seeking an outlet. And what they put back into you may not be worth having someone to vent to. Do what you think is right man, best of luck. /pol is a fucked up excuse of a friend, but I think I prefer it to most people.
ya, and I've seen a lot in the decades;
Speed Kills ~ from the 60's
Freebase ~ crack
Mexican mud and China white
and now it's Meth and Opioids
I've had problems with most of them in the past but keep pretty clean these days because I like life without the monkey on my back better.
You don't really sound like a person who takes LSD much. I used to deal it and other things like that and a whole lot of people would take it once or so and not really get it but decide it was a neat experience.
There are also the kind of people who dive in too deep and for too long. But those people usually get to be obviously delusional. In my case for instance I had to stop for about a year until trees didn't look so weird all the time anymore.
But if you use whatever you use carefully, with contemplation, time off, research, etc. then that's how you'd want to help your way through social problems and to understand how other people think. Really the people who do that kind of thing as a party drug equivalent to drinking and never see anything more in it depress me the most. Their brains must be dead.
>Opioid Epidemic
>Never realized how big this problem was
All the junkies are now chiming in.
Priceless.
fuck you pussy drugs kill weak minded white trash, there is nothing wrong with them
>I don't even know if it would be worth it to salvage that friendship
ALWAYS worth the effort user. Not much to lose and much to gain.
Bro there are definitely "social clubs" like best budz that will sell you a 10 dollar lighter and it comes with weed. There's a place downtown that is similar. You donate to the club and they hook you up with hash on site. Its not strictly "legal weed" but it isn't illegal through loopholes. I lived there for 13 years. Worked armed security for several places like this.
+1
Also, yeah fuck the homeless. My old firm was contracted by the city to clear camps out. Some fucked up people gravitate to that city these days.
People have no self control. They could measure out street drugs in smaller amounts and not risk ODing or death, but they want it all.
I am entitled to my dependency or I am dependent on my entitlements.
I think those could be dangerous mindsets when applied to the effects of drugs.
You get high, and you feel like it should be free and everlasting.
Slippery slope.
wow you are retarded
abstinence only doesnt work
remember sex ed?
drugs are more enjoyable than sex
It's such a potential good for society. I've never gotten a real addiction to opiates but god damn you have to be a fucking monster to want to outlaw something that might help some people for whatever reason back into normal life.
Redpill me on Suboxone. I take it for both opiod maintenance and for chronic pain so I'm likely going to be taking it for the rest of my life.
>but keep pretty clean these days because I like life without the monkey on my back better.
Good to hear. I was addicted to Ativan for 20 years. Doc gave it to me for an ulcer. If he didn't offer a refill I would go to another doctor. I'd bounce around between docs for a long time. I didn't believe I was an addict. After all it was a legal script from a doc right? 11 months in prison cured me. 2 stints in rehab never worked. Detox is a great way to start again.
Is heroin or whatever cheap enough that the poor can afford it?
>drugs kill weak minded white trash,
I'm not sure you're wrong
>addiction as a method of Darwinian selection
alcohol and the American Indian comes to mind...
>Have you considered that perhaps (((they))) is not actually a monolithic jewish hivemind set on the destruction of all you hold dear
this is actually the main theme of most literature on antisemitism that i've read.
im starting a rehab in florida to combat the problem
it's hilariously defensive at times
Yea, I know. I've gotten cards on my door advertising to sell you a lighter for $50 then give you 3 grams of weed for free. Thankfully though most of the drug addicts are contained to the southeast part of town. It's still amazing how many are out there. Everyone tells me Denver is way worse though. Being one of the first states to legalize pot apparently ruined the major cities here
Underestimating weak willed people and not treating addiction as a possible side effect
The US prescribes 99% of the opioid medication in the entire world.
Serving our own with big pharma heroin on the dime of subsidized insurance. That's why it's an epidemic.
>Detox is a great way to start again.
LOL ya, getting clean lowers the tolerance and makes that $20 go further.
Like I said above the natural course of addiction is to grow out of it or die. If you don't choose to quit on your own you'll most likely just go right back to the same self-destructive behavior.
You have to get tired of the monkey and choose to change, it cannot be imposed by others.
I've heard of it going around and the claims from a chemical perspective look like an improvement, but I can't give you the redpill on it. I guess so far maybe if it hasn't become too big of a topic then it must be somewhat effective?
Here's another idea: give it a shot for maybe a year or so and get back to us. What do you have left to lose?
t. retarded
>But like man if we legalized all drugs like man uh.. you know people wouldn't OD and uh.. you know like the war on drugs...
This just in: drugs are bad m'kay.
You shouldn't do drugs, m'kay.
>doctors got people hooked on purpose
This is such a nigger tier meme. I maxed out my refills and loved taking 1.5X my dosage for kicks. Never became addicted. I use Kratom occasionally to get that feel though.
Yeah. I love it there, I really do. Besides the 3 summers in a row where everything was on fire, its paradise. I25 is a HUGE drug corridor. You can get anything in the springs or Denver. Even qualuudes which nobody outside of the fucking 70s has even heard of. I lived off of Hancock on the SE side for 4 years before I left. Drugs are everywhere in that town. People are weak enough to let it eat them alive though. Stay safe man. If you want a good place to have a drink I would heartily reccomend the Detour bar and grill off of Hancock. Spent election night there and everyone was stoked for trump. You will most likely be the youngest person there by 20 years, but the drinks are cheap and they have pool tables. Nobody gets drunk and wants to fight. Do an user a favor and grab a beer there for me. I miss my little bar. Food is good too.
Did they shut down most pain clinics there? Only heard of "Oxy buses" in that show Justified, never IRL. It's just a bunch of people taking trips to FL to pick up pills.
It does fuck you up if you have low tolerance. You can get high for three weeks, then it does next to nothing. You stop doing it for awhile to get that feel again.
>>Detox is a great way to start again.
I talked to quite a few in treatment centers who were there just to detox so they could go use again. And ask most people on the street who they believe are these type of people who go to rehab. They assume patients are old homeless junkies. Not true. Most are well to do and here a lot were GM employees who were admitted to keep their jobs. By law an employer can't fire you if you have a "problem" with substance abuse. So these guys would just check themselves into rehab.
>thinks that the war on drugs is a good thing
>believed everything he learned at DARE camp
>never learned about how the war on drugs fuels drug epidemics and creates unsafe and dangerous conditions.
I've heard something that they count anyone with prescriptions as an OD, even if it's not the cause.
Look at how much heroin production has increased since we began all of our occupation in the middle East. Cia has to make money for the stuff it does in secret , and their market has been drugs since Nam.
I remember a recent story of some guy caught with a field of poppies.
>get high for three weeks
I wish man. You're a lucky dog. First kratom fucked me up was when I already had a tolerance and decided to go after it like an alcoholic.
Put me on my ass like the usual stories. It's no fucking high. But sure if you don't abuse I can see how it makes life a little bit better to the point you don't fall down the black hole.
Drugs wouldn't be such a huge problem if not for all the customers here in the U.S.