Freedom and Fascism

I'm curious why Sup Forums seems to gravitate between support for super totalitarian leaders like Gaius Julius Caesar and Adolf Hitler and then support more freedom oriented libertarians like Ayn Rand or Thomas Jefferson. What gives?

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pol isnt a hivemind faggot

There is a great deal of ideological diversity on Sup Forums.

Sup Forums simply provides an open forum, for anything politically related, especially things that aren't politically correct. And whether its due to a lack of consequences for addressing things most couldn't speak about publicly, or just the nature of shitposting, traditionalist and libertarian ideologies tend to perform better in a rhetorical sense. Not that intellectual honesty is a surety (not by a long shot) but Sup Forums provides a forum where people can discuss things that are taboo or even illegal in their countries.

Polacks will always be dedicated to the values of Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich. Anyone who says otherwise is a massive faggot shill.

EIN VOLK, EIN REICH, EIN FUHRER! SEIG HEIL!

Good dictator > Libertarianism > Everything else

>Gaius Julius Caesar
>totalitarian

military dictatorship =/= totalitarianism

The ultimate goal of authoritarianism is to cultivate the conditions necessary for freedom without corruption.

>freedom oriented libertarians like Ayn Rand or Thomas Jefferson

No such thing, Libertarians are just useful idiots for big business.

Without sovereignty there can be no freedom.

multiple people use Sup Forums

>not a monolith

Freedom was a mistake.

you're only as (((free))) as you can afford to be.

how can ancom even work

This guy gets it.

Though, I think there are higher principles at stake than freedom. But I agree.

We may all have different points of view and political ideologies, but one thing on /pol is constant:

OP is a faggot nigger

because Sup Forums actually has a lot of political diversity. it just tends to lean right. you have libertarians, fascists, reactionaries, traditionalists, conservatives in general, etc all fighting on this god forsaken image board

>the amount of cucked american posters
lol just lol

its an issue of weighing cost / benefit balance between every freedom / restriction

for instance, freedom of religion means less persecution while having more religious disagreements and less social mesh

and freedom to be a homo means more people who aren't picked on for being homo, but means more aids, butt cancer, and rape.

We don't, some libertarians pop in here but they are actually Left/Liberal by our standards.

sieg, not seig. dumb larping nigger

The all powerful and wise king is the best form of government to date, but it is the most vulnerable to the worst form of government known and that is the tyrant.

Freedom is wonderful and vitally important to our country, but equal rights for all was a mistake. The fundamental freedoms set forth in the Bill of Rights were originally only meant to apply to white citizens, not to foreigners and minorities.

Two centuries ago, that would have made you a Jeffersonian centrist. Today, that makes you a neo-Nazi.

>have no tyrant
>bad shit still happens
>-it's okay because there is no tyrant

This happens all the time, people might even falsely conclude it's no one's fault and are very likely to forget it because they have no face hate for it. Tyrants are spooks

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Because lolbertarians and neo-liberals seem to think that living under Adolf Hitler or Caesar equals living in North Korea like conditions where you can't think by yourself.

You didn't get jailed or executed for being critical or discussing politics that didnt add up to the current state of politics back then you fucking moron.

However if you started a rebellion of some kind, or planned a coup sure you did, but is that so fucking different from now?

Fascism or Natsoc doesn't equal to tyranny.

Surprise; the German people where alot more free than many countries are today.

Example of how you are biased when you think of Tyranny as the biggest evil:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko
>Former KGB officer was poisoned in 2004
>no one to directly blame
>easily forgotten
Radioactive poisoning happened so many times I have lost count, most of them(>95%) without any Tyrant to take the blame, yet it means nothing to people. However, pin it on a man in a way that is not denied and let people see that he is still in power, and you will see people talking about this endlessly, conjuring up more crimes, creating movies, books and so on.

The only thing stopping evil is intelligence, it is not democracy.

>and then support more freedom oriented libertarians like Ayn Rand
No one here does that

>pol isn't a subreddit
FTFY