Ok, guys. WW2 is discussed daily here. We all know something about it, we all have our opinions. But what about WW1...

Ok, guys. WW2 is discussed daily here. We all know something about it, we all have our opinions. But what about WW1? I never see it mentioned despite it being so important in shaping the history of Europe and the whole world actually. I want this to be a general WW1 discussion thread. So tell me, who were the bad and who were the good guys, who should have won (who would you like to have won), was it necessary to happen? Shoot your opinions. Everything is welcomed.

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I suggest you follow "The Great War" channel on Youtube and FB by Indy Neidell. He has daily updates and follows the war week by week and discusses what happenend exactly 100 years ago.

Too bad his social media guy (German) is a total Socialist cuckold.

Guess who gave women voting rights in their country
Hint: it's not the kebabs or their allies

A bunch of retards on facebook saying that "Ov vey, Germany wasn't responsible for the war, so why were they raped like the Ruskies did 20 years later"

The Germans started the war.
So the war started because some Serbians killed some Vienna fag named Ferdinand. The Vienna faggots were all angry because their army sucks ass, and couldn't defeat Serbia in a 1 on 1 (literally, the Austrian Hungarians got massacred by the Serbians in the war), let alone since Russia promised to support Serbia.

So Germany pitches in and tells Vienna, ov vey, go kill the Slavic goys and we'll take out France and Russia for you.

The war wouldn't have started if it wasn't for the Hohenzollern kikes.

Your concept of history is like that of a 5 year old.

Pathetic.

Germany was a more traditionally European state so establishing themselves as the dominant power in Europe would have set the world on a similar course instead of the wierd wacky slide into social liberalism that made such extreme measures as the Nazis necessary in the first place in the 1930s and still today. I only wonder if they won in a manner where the Russian Revolution still took place what the dynamic would be between them and the Soviets.

That's actually what happened.
The Germans invaded neutral Belgium to pass through into France via the Schlieffen plan (spelling not nessecary).
The Austrians were unwilling to go to war with Serbia, since Serbia would have brought in Russia, who would have brought in France.

I've actually heard of that channnel befor, but never given it a chance. I may have now that you have suggested it. Thanks, anyway!

They had to start it because they had finite time to mobilize their army. Just like Russkies had no option but to start mobilization. Basically each country could hypothetically brush off whatever all others were doing but at risk of being the only country with no army with adversary's army all jacked up at their border.

Austrian autism.

>if I mention "kikes" in my post everyone will think i'm "based"

Fuck off to reddit. Your post is shit and your understanding of history is also shit.

Heil Hitler. 4th Reich when?

>Defending the country that literally genocided yours for 200 years.

Dear god, we are reaching levels of cuckoldry that have never been seen before!
I didn't take my morining shit yet, Wladyslaw, I don't need you to plumb it up just yet. Come back later.

It's the only reason America is where it is today.

Oh, and for your information, Igor, the German royalty were actually kikes. You dumb fuck.

Your trolling is also shit, I forgot to add. I'm not defending anything, just saying that your view on that war is simpler (and less correct) than a 2nd-grader.

Russia was the only Nation that wasn't controlled by the kikes, whilst the Anglos and French were their bitches. Turkey was freemasonic and the Germans got screwed by the Jews in the end. Hell, the national fervor in Balkans that started the war was due to an Austro Hungarian kike's warlike policy in the balkans.

Explain how I am wrong, then?

Bad guys clearly were the french and the brits. They refused every german peace offer, no matter how good the terms, claiming that germany didn't do enough to "guarantee the existence of the little countries" (offering land to the poles apparently wasn't enough) yet at the same time already had plans for dividing the german colonies between them - obviously, the existence of the little african countries wasn't nearly as important.

Also, if you count the continuation wars, the poles, russians and french again proved themselves as the bad guys - they pretty much immediately broke their peace treaties to annex german territory (Ruhrgebiet, Oberschlesien) and forced germany straight back into the war. Hostilities went on into 1925 with germans purely on the defensive, something that most historians don't like to talk about - it kinda ruins that whole "evil almost-nazi germany" narative.

>WW1 didn't have anything to do with persecuting jews

that's pretty much the only reason

>act like power hungry cunts for decades
>m...muh Weltpolitik!
>Start a war
>Cry foul play when your opponents are not going easy on you

...

Kiwi...Don't ever post this stupid faggot shit again.

America is what won the war. If it wasn't for America, the German Spring Offensive would have captured Paris, and then the French would have sued for peace.

That would've been for the better.

Read the introduction to Democracy The God That Failed by Hoppe to get a clear picture at the overriding motif behind WW1:

mises.org/library/introduction-democracy-god-failed

Each of the powers just needed a casus belli. Each of them were looking for a fight. France was still shitty over losing Alsace-Lorraine, hell they even made a word for it. The French wanted to cripple Germany. Germany wanted to be the top dog of Europe, and believed a conquest in the East would prove that. Russia was trying to increase support for the government, so they championed the cause of Pan-Slavism, as a method of appeasing the masses. The British needed to make sure they stayed as the foremost power, and would challenge any attempt at their rule. The Italians were a new player, and wanted to prove they were worthy of being a world power. The Ottomans got roped into the war by the Germans who'd been funding them non-stop, a spike in anti-British sentiment caused by the confiscation of the brand new Ottoman warships being built in Britain (which the people had actually donated to pay for), and the constant dislike of Russians. I could go further into each nation, but really, the cause was not an archduke being shot by a terrorist, each country had their reasons, and that was the excuse.

>Get consistantly attack end demeaned on world political stage
> Bring back country from peak financial ruin and peak degeneracy
>Have war declared on you twide in the 1933-1939 time span

Maybe so, maybe so.

First one never happened, anglos were all going "muh poor german dindu nuffin it's all our fault", they were fucking lenient on them. It's like today politicians, they were cucked and let l'éternel allemand chimp out

It happened so the jews could implement democracy in every country of europe to gain even more control

WW1 destroyed western civilization, destroyed tradition and royalism and paved the way to communism and modernism. Literally everything bad in the 20th century stems from WW1

THIS

Russia was heading for a conflict one way or another.
Polish wanted out, Finnish wanted out, us the Baltics, especially us and E-stoners, wanted both Baltic-Germans and Russians out.

>they were fucking lenient on them

>give them versailles
>hitlerlookingateiffeltower.bmp

>give the marshall plan and reconstruction
>emasculated but hardworking industrial center of europe
>but they destroy europe again anyway with migrants and youre on board with it

What was the point, frog?

Eh unfortunately the brits have everyone parroting their viewpoints on world history in Sup Forums.

Whats funny is they chimped out over Imperial Germany building a world class Navy then after WWI let the United States surpass them in Naval Strength without so much as a squeek of protest. Then the Brits start WWII to prevent Germany from becoming powerful enough to challenge them (If you buy the line about saving Poland you're an idiot) and then let the United States dethrone them as the foremost world power.

Imagine what if the anglos allied with the germs to stop the rise of american power.

Also, I've read some pretty legit analysis about how the germs wanted to partition russia because of its vast industrial potential. Everyone thought they are retarded but then within a scant few decades they went full soviet and became a superpower despite losing a world war, having a long civil war and getting devastated in another world war. Imagine if they had a reformist tsar instead of the stick in the mud they had to do with.

And then truedau came in and saved the world
T. Cucknadion history lessons

What I wouldn't give to live in a world NOT under Judeo-American political domination. But sadly the British government was kiked out (if a bit less openly so) than the American government at the time. If the Brits had been smart (or less corrupted) they would have invested ALL of their military and economic effort into shoring up the foundations of the British Empire, developing the white colonies and quashing Indian independence.

And yes I can only imagine that Russia would be capable of if they ever truly got their shit together. Not happening any time soon, but it would be something to see.

Victory on either side would've resulted in disaster. Perhaps it wouldn't have been as bad as it is today if Germany won, but it would allow for Marxism and Fascism to team up and rise up in the defeated nations (Italy, France and perhaps the UK even) the Russisn civil war would most likely end up the opposite way, transforming Russia into an unstable authoritarian regime. My consensus is that the war never should've happened. It allowed for the rise of fascism and national (((socialism))) leading to millions of deaths in Europe. And I have to mention the Sykes-Picot agreement, which screwed over and divided the temporarily united Arabs who wished to create a united Arab state, effectively plunging the ME into constant instability and chaos for the next century.

Don't do it, it's shit and the guys a retard.
His maps are wrong and he can't pronounce any names.

Agreed. It is likely my country would have its own King today instead of a President if the war either did not happen or if the Central Powers had won. Austria-Hungary was bound to fall apart, especially when something like 70% of its industry was owned by and operated by Slavs(Czechs for the most part) and Slavs were extremely unrepresented in the Empire. Autonomy for the Slavs was inevitable.