Dear fellow leftist of /pol, explain to me why there isn't more people following the teachings of Zizek. He is currently one of the rare sane public figures left on the world.
Dear nazi faggots of the /pol find me a serious flaw in his speeches.
Newkikes like pepe army, plebbiters and other newfaggotory, is not alowed to post. Fuck off only serious discussion in here.
And we all now he has thicks, so fuck off with that too.
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i really like Zizek. And he is right on many issues.
>Dear nazi faggots of the /pol find me a serious flaw in his speeches.
Sooo, there isnt
lol this is precisely why leftist can't ever be taken seriously. the only half-witted theorist right now you guys can claim is essentially just a pop philosopher comedian with hygiene issues and broken marriages who unabashedly touts far right sympathies regardless
Why then a natsoc?
The fuck you talking about. Faggot I said find me a flaw in his speeches. Explain to me what is failed with him.
>why there isn't more people following the teachings of Zizek
Because i had started my own business, yes, i`m still left as fuck in all that political tests, but blyat, don`t step on me, ples, i want my own small yacht with EAT THE RICH flag on it
>moloch worshipper
Jouissance, the secret painful enjoyment at the dark heart of our symptoms, is the “only substance acknowledged by psychoanalysis,” according to Žižek.
"ascetic priests" working hard to assemble the masses and lead them to carnage in order to satisfy by their sacrifice the jouissance of some obscure Moloch.
moloch loves on pleasurable-painful horror-in-bliss (or blissful horror) of jouissance (it is usually translated simply as enjoyment)
sacrifice are actually the way we reorganize our life in order to continue to derive a secret enjoyment from something that consciously causes us suffering, pain, or revulsion. Symptoms/sacrifice are repetitious, ritualistic acts that attempt to manage this contradiction.
this is seen in ritual sacrifice and the synchronicity involved
this relates to archetypes and synchronicity
i think Zizek is close to alt-right and alt-left. He dont like political corectness, global ((((jewish)))) banksters, silly "refugees welcome" sjw leftists and liberals
He's alright for a degenerate commie *sniff* It's funny how bourgeois liberals still give him a platform when he quite clearly despises them and might even be secretly redpilled.
But he isn't taking it from you.
threadly reminder that zizek is a freeloading piece of shit who lives off of state budget and spouts incoherent bullshit to audience that consists of inexperienced and impressionable dependent household members
I'd love to see the fuckface try to make it on the free market
Zizek is a charlatan.
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I like Zizek. But I have to admit that cunt Will Self destroyed him in their debate.
Zizek repeats himself too much. He tells the same anecdotes over and over again and although I love his "the morning after the revolution" speeches, he doesn't provide anything substancial other than: more state, more control, more bureaucracy, more rules, more punishments for reactionaries (which ultimately include anti-communist leftists).
I've watched more than 200 hours of his talks on YouTube and read his "The Sublime Object" and "Violence" books. I came in contact with him through the "feud" with Chomsky. Although Zizek is way more entertaining I'd say Chomsky is still far more realistic and specially science-oriented. Zizek talks a lot about Lacan and Habermas and other thinkers working-class people can't relate to. Chomsky is more down-to-earth, though he often comes off as boring as fuck.
Anarcho capitalism is the biggest of them all. You really can't say shit about anybody.
People like you ruin Sup Forums. You could have exposed your views and made the thread interesting. But no, you just come here, say "He is a charlatan" and then bang the hammer like you're the gatekeeper of truth. Fuck off.
see my real flag and tell me I don't have a say in what happens with what was expropriated from me
I have no desire to say shit about anyone, that's why I'm ancap
communist filth really fucked us up for an entire generation
Psychoanalysis leads you to acknowledge the Jouissance inherent to yourself, the unconscious as essentially »evil«. You then have to make a choice. »Worship« the jouissance as a means to fill up and stuff the hole of truth, or – create a livable sinthom to tame the beast within and allow life to continue as flawed.
Hence Psychoanalysis is one of the best tools we have at our disposal for anyone to whom god no longer answers ...
tl;dr he´s right
He is against the free market, you moron. Therefore he is not being a hypocrite by engaging in state-sponsored activities.
Unlike that bitch Ayn Rand, who received welfare money in her later years. Not to mention she had an affair with one of her students and then fell into a deep depression when he broke up with her. You know that, right?
And don't get me started on that rat-faced Milton Friedman...
there is still Hoppe for everyone
I pray to god that one day I shall see our education, single-payer healthcare and payg pension ponzi monopolies crash and burn, that one day communism and its metastases die out and give way for a libertarian right paradise
I'm not looking for violence but rely on disruptive tech in making that happen
until then I shall expose myself the least I legally can, as I've been doing ever since I entered adulthood
>evil is only substance acknowledged by psychoanalysis,” according to Žižek.
well, he may be your leader
but to Jesus, Ahura and anti-molochites, the one true substance is love
Bloodsucking leech
I know you won't watch these. Their propaganda has already colonized your mind. But someone else will. Hopefully they'll learn in time what's happening to them:
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you're projecting, being a useless failure who's envious of others' achievements and rewards coming out of those, that is the only reason you have chosen the most retarded, most parasitic and most totalitarian of all ideologies
you need a tyrannical power to even out the playing field so everyone can drop down to your level, completely devoid of self-actualisation, responsibility and accountability
your kind will die out first, as all negatively selected members in and species do - either by malnutrition or administration of hydrostatic shock from supersonic lead cast in self-defense
I am probably twice your age or more, I was born in 70s so I experienced communism before it totally fell apart (ran out of others' money/credit), and the aftermath it left behind, mainly as a mental virus dumbing down a big chunk of our rather small nation
read up on Hoppe, he's great at both argumentation and storytelling, I suggest 'Democracy: The God That Failed'
it's freely available at the Mises Institure
>read up on Hoppe, he's great at both argumentation and storytelling, I suggest 'Democracy: The God That Failed'
Did you even read the pic I posted? No, you didn't. Did you even click one of the videos? No, you didn't. Do you ever read up critiques of Libertarianism? No, you don't. I know what your ideology is. Jesus Christ... It's been around for decades. Holy shit... telling me to read Hoppe when I just posted a picture of the guy... by the way, he looks frail and weak and autistic as fuck. Something very common in "libertarian" theorists.
Urban liberals actually enjoy being shat upon and feeling inferior.
It's a big sado-masochist verbal orgy where liberals are the masochists while minorities, the right and a few old school lefties are the sadists.
Holy shit I knew you were a Slovene. Only a Slovene can shit so much on other Slovene. Yeah yeah communist fucked up the entire generation? Explain to me which generation did they ruined?
I see leftists are posting this shit a lot. Now explain why do you think that nationalism is attractive for the capitalists while it's pretty fucking obvious that what they want is united global economy with no borders for slave workers and capital.
cool, then you already know the truly free future that's in store for everyone except subhumans
that would be the generation raised by marxists, judged by marxists and legislated to by marxists
good news is that a change is coming - not within the system but one that negates it altogether, I expect it to play out over the next decade
>he thinks he can call things tyranny and win the argument
Not how it works, worm.
Power is only tyrannical when it's used against the interests of the people. PEOPLE, this word is singular. It means the collective nation/society.
You are a person, a cog, a small part of that larger whole called civilization. You do not get to claim exclusive ownership over your achievements. That is a false notion that you fabricate so you can justify hoarding those rewards for yourself.
You are the textbook fucking definition of a parasite.
We need totalitarian power to purge bloodsuckers like you the same way rocks and dirt and grime must be removed from the gears of a machine for it to work efficiently.
There's nothing retarded about Nationalist Bolshevism. Like National Socialism it's built from truths about human nature, just from a different perspective. These truths are present in every surviving culture, but repressed behind lies like "liberty" to enable people who want to live CONTRARY to our nature retain power.
sorry, if this faggot is pro-immigration i don't give a fuck what he has to say
he deliberately obfuscates his own views and is very annoyed when anyone asks him to clarify or elaborate on his positions
in a way, he's like the classic Ivory Tower Marxist, wormed up in his own rhetoric and condescending
his positions on Stalin as well as the legacy of communism are correct but he's toxic and doesn't care about advancing Marxism; he defends it out of self-preservation and for his own brand
we've been compiling all of your IP'S for years now
you racist nazis will be the first ones to go on the day of the sickle.
Libertarianism (minarchism) / classic liberalism was the belief of the founding fathers nice try
>the founding fathers
Some of the founding fathers.
Others like Hamilton knew that was stupid.
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>Dear nazi faggots of the /pol find me a serious flaw in his speeches.
His countless speech impediments for one.
Not trolling not joking, I have listened to this guy. He is fucking stupid. If he did not have the lisp and funny mannerisms his observations would hardly be of note. He is a leftist attempt at having a Jordan Peterson. It failed. Pretty bad.
>far right sympathizer
>therefore we should btfo
??? are you retarded? you're not a leftist, you schmuck.
your ideology is insectoid and anachronistic; if you want to be a drone be my guest but in case you decide to impart your will upon me I shall meet it with the greatest achievement of your idol, the simple machine coming out of Izhmash
people>ethnicity>local community>individual
everything relies on individuals being the smallest subset of the people, individuals have free will and inalienable rights that allow them to engage voluntarily with other individuals
the future I'm envisioning will be bakanized af and globally so; state powers shall diminish and cease to exist as soon as their coffers dwindle, monopolies fail, and individuals shall once again have total control over their own destinies, they will voluntarily participate in the betterment of local community that will compete with others like them, making the use of available resources as efficient as possible
there will be no kikes in the middle to skim and expropriate property, no rentseekers to force individuals into compliance either through monopolies or legislation, whereas individuals shall do commerce amongst each other either directly or part of distributed autonomous organizations; for every market demand there will be suitable supply and price discovery shall determine how much a product or a service is worth
this is inevitable unless we experience a catastrophic event such as total nuclear warfare or global mohamedan infestation bringing about subhuman supremacy
>I hope you're right. You guys deserve better than holodomor-tier conditions.
I don't see any contradiction here. (And he isn't »our« leader.)
Let me try speak a bit in christian parable; jouissance will be the cross love has to bear. No one can guarantee that love will conquer, unless you are blessed with grace. Not everyone is. For those who aren't – at least there is small chance in something like psychoanalysis to take up their »cross« regardless and not fall victim to the false delights of jouissance, that only ever cover up their lack of truth.
What the French maître was teaching, I think, is, in short, a way to »keep your mind in hell and despair not« ...
>in case you decide to impart your will upon me I shall meet it
And you will lose, because you are just one dumb Slav.
You are a troglodyte who sees civilization and likens it to an ant colony because the concept of nation and community is completely foreign to you.
>everything relies on individuals being the smallest subset of the people
Nothing relies on that, this is simply the way it is. But I know you are using your retarded, false, capitalist notion of what "individual" means, so you are wrong still.
>individuals have free will
Meaningless philosophy
>and inalienable rights
Empirically false. A catchphrase used to incite the peasantry to take up arms and fight on behalf of other people's political ambitions.
>the future I'm envisioning
will never happen, because the process itself is what would CAUSE the type of catastrophic events you incorrectly believe are the only thing that could stop it.
The reality is that the societal decline caused by your fantasy would be gradual enough for people to abort before any catastrophes are necessary.
In fact that's exactly what's been happening. You can notice it most clearly in America.
Your idea of society being driven by fluctuating market demand is a dystopian fucking nightmare.
You are a jewish swine for thinking it would ever be something to strive for.
that's a good little doggy clinging to a failed experiment that nowadays exists as a twisted hereditary absolutist monarchy in DPRK, you should go there to suck them off
the desire for (soon attainable) freedom shall overcome your kind either by ignoring you or in self-defense
>he couldn't refute any of my points
>he couldn't even defend his own points after I refute them
You will never have your make-believe (((freedom))), and you will never have real freedom either, because you're not smart enough. You were created to be a follower. A soldier.
Maybe you should consider accepting that and quit being insubordinate.
go forth and procreate. the day when you can impregnate yourself will be the day when an individual is the smallest unit.
cool, go die for your master, I'm sure you'll find one somewhere that would take you
I have nothing to refute, I stated my opinion and give no shits about yours
hi neighbour, let me tell you what you should do...
You don't mind your possessions being taken, then. You have no problem with taxation. You take no issue with being forced to work and not being allowed to live off money inherited from your parents. Good.
Compliance isn't difficult, see?
So what ethnicity is the capitalist?
>mind
my local militia would resist any and all aggression, defending our homesteads and families to the death, if that's what you're asking
of course that taxation is theft, there's no voluntary element but blanket coercion at play
good luck getting to my stores of value, I don't think your central banking jew would survive for long
inheritence is natural and the owner has 100% control over their posessions, what are you implying here?
the only way your tyranny can exist is if it devours the whole, planet which is unlikely
He is Alexandr Dugin: lite edition. That's why.
>to the death
I hope you're not assuming this will be a problem for us.
>of course that taxation is theft
You can only steal something if it didn't already belong to you beforehand.
>and the owner has 100% control over their possessions
This is false. Obviously.
My "tyranny" has existed for millennia, it is called civilization. You're incapable of understanding that because you're lobotomized by capitalists.
>if it devours the whole, planet
Organized governments exists everywhere there is humans on this planet. By virtue of that alone, my ideology is closer to being realized than yours has ever been.
Have no idea who that is.
Judging by how you are representing yourself in your post, who the fuck would want to live with you? And you dream of an local militia lol.
>learing zizek from out of context edgy youtube videos
The same thing happened to Christopher Hitchens, alt-right faggots love his attacks on Islam, yet he till his last days he considered himself a marxist.
Zizek actually praised Merkel for standing up for human rights of refugees by accepting them no regardless of the public opinion of Germans. Zizek, like C. Hitchens before him, is "anti-pc" in the sense that he believes that refugees should be held to the same standards as European citizens. He in no way is some crypto-fascist, just read any of his books.
if the refugees were held to European standards, most of them wouldn't last a week. hell, the largest threat to denmark now is swedistan
the whole point here is I don't jack off to expropriating from you or killing you in a bolshevik fashion but will react violently in case you decide to do so with your friends from the early 20th century
obviously you wouldn't, so why would you care?
what a fat commie fuck
Zizek is a distraction. He appeals to semi-sane upper class leftists. The good thing is that he does a lot of criticism on the left from within, slowly red pilling people in some important questions. The bad thing is that he gives space to a "left" which is still tolerable for intelligent people outside of SJW circles.
Right wingers who know better in the first place should not waste time with him.
I love the dude, what are you smoking? He is essentially the worlds worst communist, every other time he opens he mouth he pokes a hole in his own political ideology but he is fully aware of it.
I think most of all, more than left or right, he is anti-establishment.
Jew.
No, you jack off to having everything society built for you but living as a separate individual who owes nothing and doesn't have to participate or give anything in return unless he "wants" to, since he "owns" it.
React violently all you want. You will die, like the Native Americans.
Swine.
>ear fellow leftist of /pol, explain to me why there isn't more people following the teachings of Zizek. He is currently one of the rare sane public figures left on the world.
Agreed. Zizek is the tits.
bingo! what you're forgetting to mention is that I don't want anything from anyone unless both parties voluntarily agree on it
do keep larping if it makes you happy, all I can say it's good that your kind is already dead, never to return again; what's your possible course of action anyway? foaming at the mouth while posting furiously?
meanwhile I can work on my own energy generation, food production, having a reliable fresh water source, productive machinery acquisition, investment management, growing my business, fostering good relations with my neighbours, taking part in my local community and bringing value to the table, breaking away from fiat (((money))) monopoly, acquiring weapons, minimizing my mandatory "contributions" for state ponzies, and so on and so on
I like him as a meme
*Sniff
*Pull shirt
>he freely admits to being a bloodsucking parasitic leech
Glad we're on the same page.
But what YOU'RE forgetting to mention is that the land you're occupying doesn't belong to you.
The air you breathe doesn't belong to you.
You have no "right" to any of the resources you wanna consume. You are being permitted to do so, at the behest of your government.
People in America are the ones who are actually doing like you say, trying to make your fantasy a reality.
Shall we take a look at what the result's been for them? Pic related
Why do you keep trying to say my "kind" is already dead? You're the one that's losing. Nationalism is on the rise.
Nobody outside of our autistic "le helicopter rides XD" kekistan larpers on Sup Forums actually believes voluntary association is a functional principle.
>We will resist your tyranny! To the last ma-
I agree there's a problem with the absence of allodial land and overregulation but I'm counting on these becoming non-issues once government croaks because there would be no more public officials willing to enforce such laws after state coffers have run dry, after all noone would opt to be a government bitch for free
>bloodsucking parasitic leech
a leech leeches off of someone/something, I'd merely be tending to my property in the most productive way possible and reap 100% of the rewards stemming from it
tell me what are you doing about making your totalitarian dream come true? can't time-travel back2gulag, can you?
I think He is quite the retard. Even if illuminated for a leftie, still He thinks the world is a inevitabile process to the point He prefers. He doesn't give a shit about his Mother in his speeches.
well, it's not like capitalism will work when the robo-slaves start replacing( that's why everyone is shilling for natSoc, they want that automatization money) people everywhere. though we could end up in a Elysium-like world if the money isn't distributed to everyone.
Zizek is the only lefty I like.
t. nazi
Try reading one of his books. Ravings of a madman. I would have thought it would be better given no lisp and bogey wiping
>Dear nazi faggots of the /pol find me a serious flaw in his speeches
Žižek is (as leftists usually are) extremely perceptive. But since he's more honest than they are, he is trying to reach the conclusion that is true to the plain sight.
So, he basically reverse-engineers his whole subject to make it fit into marxist body of work. The man is smart enough to prove two opposite things using the same process and make it entirely acceptable to marxist crowd which is in reality attracted to the "correct" intelectual lingo and not much else.
Which brings me to unrelated conclusion, which is that the far left ought to be somewhat easy to infiltrate and subvert for your own agenda. I'll give it a thought in the future.
>once government croaks
Won't happen. "State coffers" don't run dry. The country itself is the state's coffers. This is why I hate debating snakes. Your entire ideology is founded on delusion.
>I'd merely be tending to my property
>my property
Exactly like the leech claims the blood it's sucked, even though the blood is part of our body and was created by our body, you claim the territory and property you occupy, even though it's part of society and was created by society.
There's no point in trying to make a libertarian understand this concept though, is there. Like trying to teach empathy to chinks. You're a different species and incapable of processing it.
>what are you doing about making your totalitarian dream come true?
Spreading my ideology successfully, by actually being able to defend the points I make and convince people to follow them
as opposed to saying "muH opIniOn, if u dont like it, idc hehe, to eech his own!"
His conclusions. After he fired all his pop cultural entertainment """philosophy""" and his personal definition of marxism/communism all that is left is
>hurr durr we have to change things somehow but noone knows how exactly this is going to happen on a practical level because the metaphysics is wrong
Dude at that moment whee he could truly bring something he dissapoints. At least Jordan Peterson can tell retardet millenials common sense shit in inflated academics language so they actually restructure their thinking.
Here's the question you leftists should be asking. Why should we want you to take our stuff away? Also, as a man, why would you not rather be dead then live off the earnings of others?
zizek is alright by me
>the face when a stuttering commie has a better girl than you
Zizek is a dirty ass commie scumfuck that should be hanged
you laying claim to a piece of my property while calling me a leech is pretty ironic
there is exactly 0% for your kind to succeed in this information age but I can appreciate your vigor, perhaps you should channel it into something more productive
I'd love to stay and chit-chat but I'm getting sleepy here, good night user
200 hours.
Haven't you heard evrything he ever said twice after like 40h worth of lectures?
Evrything else are just anecdotes or some references to weird books and shit.
He never said that.
>my property
As I said. No point.
And the information age is the exact reason behind the resurgence of nationalism, sorry to break it to you. The massive increase of interaction between people reinforced our senses of community; the internet functions the same as a large society, but in a more concrete, easier to perceive way.
Sleep tight my slovenian friend. Enjoy all the make-believe freedom you have left
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