Obviously only people from the V4 countries are allowed to post in this thread.
Let's try to discuss and perhaps settle the Austria question.
Should it be invited and accepted into V4 (making it V5)?
Pros:
>central european
>conservative about the immigration issue
>relatively wealthy
>calm, peaceful, cultured
Discuss.
Btw has the OVP reach the redpill point? Heard Kurtz is crushing them domestic islamists
Also, I've just noticed how nice and (more or less) straight the eastern border looks on a map
You forgot that austrians are germans and therefor danger for everybody.
If they were they would have become a permanent part of Germany long before 1938
>If they were they would have become a permanent part of Germany long before 1938
Well, they wished to be part of Germany long before 1938. It is just the Allies did not let them as it would violated the Versailles Treaty.
Prussia defeated austria and unified germany. Before that austrians were strongest german country. Prussia coudn't allow austria to be part of gemany
Kurz is not red pilled. he is a neo conservative flip flopper controlled by what pollsters tell him. If we don't vote FPÖ with at least 30% forget Austria
>voting shithead FPO to save Austria
Well, RIP former overlords, sure was a nice time, you will be missed :(
Butthurt slovenian detected
EU membership referendum results:
>Czech Republic: 77.3% Yes
>Poland: 77.6% Yes
>Hungary: 83.8% Yes
>Slovakia: 93.7% Yes
It's sad to see that slavs are still stupid enough to keep falling for foreign anti-EU D&C tactics, much like the Polish fell for that anti-German """""guarantee""""" in 1939 which lead to their ruins and communism puppet state after. Why do you think Trump visited Poland first? Because he likes the Polish culture and history, neither of which he has spent a minute to read about?
Stop falling for D&C you dumb slavs
Dzien dobry, time for a cold piwo
Croatia 66%, only 43,51% of voters had even bothered to vote. We shouldn't be part of EU, but nobody cares.
Don't. Let us die.
Why would Austria, a wealthy Western European country, join these miserable shitholes?
this, and holy trips of 7s confirm
in my opinion, too much risk, too low reward
let them rot in their multiculti
>conservative about the immigration issue
WRONG
>relatively wealthy
MORE LIKE EXTREMELY WEALTHY COMPARED TO V4
>calm, peaceful, cultured
WRONG WRONG CORRECT
of course, we need german leadership
Why would we want to join a third world union? So you have someone to fleece for gibs?
Found the Kraut. Instead of shitposting on Sup Forums, shouldn't you be worrying about your wife's son getting bullied by Muhammed?
Austria has more Muslims per capita than Germany I guess. Forget them.
What is even the point of V4 while still being in EU?
Because they're small and irrelevant and want to buddy up, it's a shame your politicians don't want to let them die, because they can't call papa Germany to help this time.
Rád bych chtěl vědět (((kdo))) se schovává za tím postem
>dumb slaves crying sour grapes
>Hungary
>relatively wealthy
Their countryside looks like Siberian Russia, are you kidding me?
It was back in 2003, plus immigrants were not part of the deal. People voted for joining not because they wanted to import the middle east, but to improve economic development and living standards.
>Czech Republic: 77.3% Yes
That was in 2004.
I don't think there is chance for them anymore...
germans are the best at btfoing jews though
Where are the old, comfy /V4G/s. This isn't comfy.
Thats why they got btfo'd by jews into Islamic caliphate
Szarházi (((zsidó)))bérenc.
Škoda že to spíš jde naopak v dnešní době
0.2%?
What the fuck we don't even have a mosque here.
if by the best you mean herding them into a country that they gave the world to on a platter then yes
Also dont tell me that people in Slovakia take Kotleba srsly.
He is the cringiest LARPer there ever was.
>Martin Luther and Wilhelm
>somehow bad figures
People who made this has a room temperature like IQ
Do you want to be roached?
Agreed, they should follow the trailblazers
Blame the g*rmans that started shitting up these threads
Me neither. Turks everywhere.
>shithead FP
Yes, of course all our established parties from 1945 on are crypto jews. It is about the story that will be launched if the FP comes into power.
>President will not like to swear in HC
>Probably calls the youth to protest
>Lefties attack the parliament
>Martial law declared
>The police which is 100% FP will have no problem shooting the communist youth.
>Junker EU will try to sanction,
>with UK out of the EUSSR desintegration is possible
>ÖXIT by the people
>Good bye Germany
Fook Austrians add Croatia and Slovenia never trust a German
Why would Austria want to join your shitty third world, Eastern European group?
Same applies to you and KSČM.
Go back to Molenbeek, Ahmed.
thanks kek
I think it is settled then
Cons:
>Irreversibly fallen to multiculturalism
That would be nice.
>muzzies
>slavs
is there a difference?
Why don't you guys just become vassal states to the US.
>US gets more White
>Slavs can go to Space
>You can get shekels and talk shit to other countries on the internet
>Spread America's great culture into Yurope
You forgot
>German
Checked
Depends. Austrians are pretty open about remigration for Turks and camps for muslims. Also after the ISIS murders from last Friday which Lügenpresse tries to bury, another chunk of mostly Boomers got a red pill shoved up their asses.
The Murderer came to Austria in 1978, which could kill the whole #NotAllMuslim, if played right.
>1144
It will happen. Remember, a vote for Red or Black is a vote for Red and Black
>Belgium
>Disneyland
Which is more fictional?
This. Also the law on referendums required back than that for every referendum to be approved a turnout of 50%+ was needed.
The government of Milanović was very aware that in that case the EU accession referendum would never succeed.
So, they changed the law where a 50% turnout was not necesarly knowing that the Europhiles would be the only one (bare in mind they were making 20% at most back than and today even less) would go to the ballot boxes.
Than Josipović and Kosor signed the Accession Treaty before the referendum was made which is unconstitutional.
Yes, we were dragged into the EU.
Did slavs blow themselves up in your shitty made up country?
I was in Brussels couple of times since my aunt works in the EU.
>Jesus fucking Christ is it bad.
Her place is near the Rue de Ixelles. 10 minutes walking from the old town.
I used to go sighseeing the neighbourhood. For a solid 90% of the time I was the only non shitskin there.
Niggers selling weed everywhere. Towelheads blocking my view and giving me angry looks for being in 'their' district.
>Belgium was a mistake.
might as well be vassal states to brazil
Well russkies got us to space.
you tell me, horvat
I would prefer Romania desu
Austria should align with the V4. First step is to ditch the crappy Eurofighters for a fleet of 350 used F-16 and to ramp up military spending to 2 percent.
>ditch the crappy Eurofighters
done
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It's totally different for the East EU countries then the west. Until now, the compromises Poland had to make were trivial in contrast to the amount of money, trade and freedom to travel we gained.
It's like subscribing to a magazine for some kind of a reward and then cancelling after the first issue.
I still think it was a good choice at the time, and now we should bail after taking all the advantage we could
Austria was as german as bavaria, prussia or any other german-speaking state at the time. Bismark didn't want an austrian dominated german empire that contained large amounts of non-germans (which was basically all of the austrian empire that wasn't austria-proper). The austria-german divide only occured post-WWII and even today they're still very culturally similar.
Hey at least we can break it of quick when we want to be scummy about it.
As long as the 3-seas group becommes strong enough we won't need Germany and the EU any more.
Imagine a future where we have an actual industry with our people working and gettind decent wages while Germans are told to fuck off forever.
Cons:
>No more German tourists.
Pros:
>No more German tourists
>No more EU bullshit
>No more socialism promoted by foreign donnors
>Actual economic value
>Finally develop proper capitalism
>Low taxes
>Gun rights
Who cares faggot, Muslims will ruin your country, good luck paying welfare to terrorists.
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>muslims will ruin your country
see
I believe Chads call it
>Pump and dump
Hey Bavaria diaspora, you are welcome if you manage to free yourself from the Prussians
Comparing 2004 to 2017
How autistic can you be?
I think that Austria would not be a good addition to the Visegrád country's as they are much more Germanic then Slavic. also because they were not behind the "iron curtain" like the others the cultures are very different growing more closely now, but i believe that the interests of Austria are too divergent from the Visegrád country's as is their economy which is somewhat more developed then those of the country's in the Visegrád treaty.
We are now. :(
What happened to Liechtenstein?
>Imagine a future where we have an actual industry with our people working
>slavs
>actual industry with people working
?????
It's time to go to the mosque Ahmed, you now 5 times a day, so that you remember to conquer the faggot Belgians and ourbreed them.
Whats that supposed to mean?
What was Bohemia in A-U times?
What was czechoslovakia in 1920/1930?
It gets even worse.
Look at what they blatantly did in Croatia
>66,3% Yes
>Only 1 298 992 people of 4,5 million people voted.
>The president at the time allready signed the entry contract before the Refferendum.
Hopefully we can play this up when the EU tries to press us like the UK when we decide to leave.
Moron. The slavs are the only one who work in Austria. Austrians are mostly entitled bitches who start to whine the moment they have to work. 80 years of communism nearly destroyed this country
> 3-seas group
It is meme. This will be forgotten in 1 year and a half. Also, if our political elite really wished to oppose the EU or Germany they would than join the Visegrad group instead of making some meme initiatives
>No more German tourists.
German tourists were coming before the accession to the EU. They would come even after. The rest I agree with you.
We should make a union. This time you give the king.
Checked and yes. Makes more sense. Bring in the based Dacians. Rome will rise again from Rome ania
>The slavs are the only one who work in Austria.
Of course, Slobodan
>>Imagine a future where we have an actual industry with our people working
>>slavs
>>actual industry with people working
>?????
Look, we weren't a wasteland before communism.
The only things holding us back right now are EU-beraucrats and socailist politics that wasn't eliminated during the 90s and 2000s.
What we need is a large libretarian movement that would be able to transplant values pretty much identical to the American constitution.
And also don't tell me you don't notice all those Croats working their asses of for 14 hours a day everywhere arround the world.
If Austrians are so good at being industrious, how come all the industry in A-H was in Bohemia?
Eh.
The only descendant of any nobillity from Croatia is some LARPing dude from Italy so let's make a Confederacy with presidential elections every 10 years instead.
What business do Croatians need what should I invest in here
.t got my croatian citizenship
Im thinking of investing in local business but people give me mixed answers.
No, just a young man working with slavs of all age and austrian boomers and Xers, who sees who works and who makes a loooot of coffee breaks
You are right my Croatian dad worked very hard and tried to finish big jobs quick so he can do more jobs to make money he would never do $ per hour work and if he did he used to charge a lot and relax a bit.
We need more capitalism so I can build business here. :)
Can't we just Add Serbia and Croatians but this time stop them from killing themselfs?
Deal.
And sorry for the conflicts in the XIX. We went too far with the Hungarization.
Miss the good old days of the Zrinskis.
if bohemia is so great, how come it's a shithole?
The awnsers are mixed because of the following cons:
>''Social responsibility''
>YOU PAY THE HEALTHCARE FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES
>Income tax at 30% if you are anywhere near decent income.
>25% VAT
>The public healthcare is slow as shit and its quality is degrading slowly.
>You still have to pay ''additional health insurance'' to actually have a health insurance.
Just buy an appartment in a coastal town with decent traffic and waterways.
Rent it out via agencies and pay pauschal tax for the income since it's cheaper.
It should net you some 40K $ per year.
Otherwise you could start up a large farm but you'd need to get ahold a large connected parcel of land for that.
Not to mention the machinery and infrastructure you'd need.
Is this the Hungarian who loved Zrinski?
Also yeah we got kinda angry when you tried to install Hungarian as a language but im pretty sure Zrinski was bilingual.
.t leaf Croat who shills zrinski
>prefering Romania to Austria
Bratanek, I...
They have noitecable large mudslime population.
While they showed some balls by moving military to italian border, they are infected with german multiculturalism.
Also they are germanic, so I woulndt trust them at all. Just remeber bigest Austria achivments are, making whole world belive Hitler was German and Bethoven was from Austria.
Not so much tax financed corrupt structural (((development))) building another park bench for 1.5 Million?
Didn't Austria vote for some Green party cuck after he rigged the previous election?