Well?

Well?

Americans enjoy being poor.

business owner incurs and sustains all losses/risks while the gender studies libkuk only has to try and not botch the name of whichever client he has to write down on the venti

that DOES IT

> *cough*
> Heavily implied Capitalism sucks
> *cough*

Yeah fuck off humans are slaves in every economy.

Business owner takes risks including taking out loans, investing in certain industries, etc. Yeah maybe he was "privileged" but to harp on that is an easy way of justifying your own shortcomings. Capitalist America has made plenty of people who come from nothing incredibly rich, one thing these people all had in common was that they weren't lazy pieces of shit content with taking a job making fucking tea cups if we're gonna take your bullshit bait as a fair anecdote

>Man builds company through coming up with an original idea, finding good contracting, investing in solid backing, going through the mountains of government paperwork/regulation and making wise decisions

>Guy who pushes a button thinks he deserves more

Really scrambles my eggs.

the worker sustains the actual risk of injury from the actual labour. you know, the labour that actually produces the product that the capitalist gets wealthy from?

the worker makes the biggest investment of their own time and energy. the capitalist merely invests money.

you sound like you're regurgitating a capitalist text book. learn to think for yourself

Ok so if the faggot with the hat decides he doesn't want to work for the white guy, how will he make money?

>If I do all the Labour, why are you still entitled to even the tiniest fraction of the profit?

>Because I own it. I literally told you this 5 seconds ago are you retarded? You know what you're fired get out of my factory.

So why doesn't the worker just make his own company

>the worker makes the biggest investment of their own time and energy.

leafman this bait is of poor form

Says the leaf who has clearly never built a business. Please kill yourself.

Business owner just laid out his entire business model in plain english, and then offered the guy a job. He can take the job or fuck off.

Wealthy dude manages, and supplies material. Other dude makes stuff.
Both profit, but due to there being thousands of the worker, manager profits more.

the capitalist sees the rules of the game and uses them to his own advantage. people who suck at competition aren't usually the ones advocating for it

This guy pushes a fucking button.

Literally every minimum wage job I worked is like that. You press fucking buttons and sit there. And smile. Fucking monkeys can do that shit, people should be HAPPY they're getting paid at all.

>>>Guy who pushes a button

spoken like someone who has never had to work in their life. You think that having a job is simply pushing a button?

it seems that only young children fiercely defend capitalism. Adults are simply compliant in the fact that this is the system they have to live in, and tolerate it. Only young, naive kids with no life experience are idealistic about it.

because I'm not a big dumb gay nigger

because you lack initiative, you lazy pothead. now make the cups or get the gas.

>my privilege
>i have inherited

the comic is arguing against a caricature of a rich person.

Did you miss the "I own it" part? You couldn't produce the teacup without my equipment. I can't produce the teacup without labour. So you voluntarily exchange labour for a cut of the profit. And if you don't, someone else will.

Since when do ceramic teacups harm the environment? Isn't it literally just baked dirt?

I do economic research. I get to see the fee schedule we charge our clients. Out of $50k only $20k was for labor. I earned the vast majority of the labor component.

The rest went to overhead and research fees for databases. The building I worked in, the internet I used, and my supervisors to review my work.

Out of the 50K, if you only count labor I earned $40K of it through my work. Of course, if I was as retarded as a communist I would be outraded. But I know how much goes to fees, healthcare, retirement, overhead, so I am content with my situation.

Communist are upset because they don't understand how that Labor isn't everything. We still have to pay off our computors, we still have to pay off our back office staff, we still need to pay retirement and healthcare.

Stop being retarded.

Everytime

fucking rekt. why do commies not get this?

Digits confirm lefties btfo

the energy for mass production comes from somewhere.

the waste from mass production goes somewhere.

people who defend capitalism really don't know how the world works, do they?

fucking dumbass why do you think milenials are commies? and conservatives who are pro capitalists are old in demographics... some newfags.. tisk tisk

sucking nigger dicks

I used to help make payroll in a company. Fully half of the revenue in the company is used for labor. This is common among manufacturing sectors, which is why China seems like such a good option to people who make things.

Profit (everything left over after wages, suppliers, taxes, rent, etc) makes up about 10% or less of a company's revenue, and is almost NEVER paid in salary to the CEO or President. They have fixed salaries like you. The dividends are paid to investors or rolled back into the company as purchases of hard assets like machines. The communist notion of a capitalist is a complete fiction.

>learn to think for yourself
learn to think at all. first of all it takes a lot more "time and energy" to set up a company and get it running then it does to send out a shitty cover letter and get an entry level job. its about risk and liability. the worker has nothing at stake, and can walk away if shit goes south, the owner/executive is responsible. they are for more invested in the company and have more to lose.

>he thinks money doesn't dictate business
how fucking stupid are you commies?

>Hydroelectricity
>Recycling
Dumb nigger commies have never set foot inside a factory and imagine them all to look like a Dickens novel.

People who were left wing hippies in the 60s and 70s are now voting reliably right-wing. You'll grow out of communism. Demographics proves it.

He put in all the effort to build and maintain this system.

The kid is a cog.
A costly cog at that these days.
Better get a mechanical cog that won't cost as much.
Sure, the engineer is going to take a cut from my current investment funds. But in the end my profit margins will be better.

On the flip side, the kid is now living off the welfare system that is fed from that industrialist with good business sense.

So either way, the dumb fuck is fed, and the man is richer for it.
Win win for society.
Except for the favela the kid lives in.
His sister was stabbed and raped yesturday, his mother was raped four times at the laundry pool!
Father's been dead for six years. Walked into a crossfire between drug dealers.

But it's better this way. Yes yes. Because college kids know everything about anything. They will make the world a better place. Yes yes yes...

What do industrial kilns run on? Does it use diesel, or just electricity? If it's the latter, then the energy could come from a hydroelectric dam or windfarm, and is no more reprehensible than charging your iphone.

Most industrial kilns are electric. Fossil fuel ones use natural gas, not diesel.

>Or starve to death
>Inherited
>Privilege

lol. I'm a fucking NatSoc and even I can't humor this lazy trash.

wtf i'm a communist now

>Natsoc
>No humour
Huh, the Germans managed to put part of their national spirit into their ideology

The owners of capital assume all risk and liability for the product. Workers don't get sued or lose their homes if the product ends up killing people or just flopping terribly. They just lose their jobs and go on to the next one (oddly, the more socialist a country's policy is the longer they spend unemployed).

The owners of capital manage the business from the designing of products to the administration of the employees to the marketing, which are all the factors that make a business profitable. Low ranked employees are little more than biological machines (T_T) and are paid for their time and loss of chemical energy. This is why these jobs are often transferred to sweatshops overseas. The more intellectual the job, the more the employee gets paid, rarely a "small fraction" of the value that is eventually purchased.

By the by, payroll is usually the single largest expense in any given business, so this comic is ignoring the relationship between labor and profit.

But you wouldn't notice these things if your understanding of economics is centered around muh morals and superficial fairness.

Capitalism is forced altruism

Socialism is theft

If you guys don't like sharing profits start your own business.

Nigger

thx for your input faggot

Pretty much this. Payroll accounts for about half my expenses, and I have a flowthrough of about 55%. That 55% profit isn't just pocketable, though. You have to plan for things like capital expenses and for slow business seasons.

>getting injured making coffee for hipster faggots
>baristas are "workers" now
Why are commies so fucking pathetic?

If blue shirt guy makes the wrong business decision he will lose his capital.

Good business decisions are decisions that lead to the mutual benefit of customers and the business.

>Labor theory of value
>2k17
>relevant
In to the trash it goes.

The worker sustains very little risk. If the worker sucks ass at his job, he still gets paid. If the worker is good but his fellow workers are shit, he still gets paid. If the entire fucking workshop or factory sucks, he still gets paid.

That is, until the business owner, who assumes all the risk, can't keep profits up to pay his workers, and then has to fire a lot of them or close the factory down if it isn't sustainable. This costs millions of dollars and financially hurts the owner, whereas the worker assumes no damage at all other than needing to find another job.

Surely, in a healthy market the worker has very little to worry about, as they can find another job.

So you're telling me that not a single retarded commie knows how a business is actually run?

>no one replied
take that leaf, i hope your mother gets raped

Leaf faggot that is how it works and you are not entitled to all the profit commie fag . Stupid entitled Leaf faggot , go live in CUBA ! GTFO

Well?

>i dedicated years of my life getting an education to learn how to run a business and then took a massive financial risk by taking out loans to buy massive amounts of capital to produce a niche product that poses a massive entrepreneurial risk to me as I may or may not succeed on a large scale
>if i fail then I will be out tens possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars will have to declare bankruptcy and will have wasted years of my life
>if I succeed I will make enough money to have a comfortable living after years of making enough to pay back loans and pay my workers
>but youre right i should just give all the money to you because youre such a skilled laborer that you put your name on an application along with the 50 others you put in to places such as mcdonalds.
>I surely cant replace you with literally anyone else on the planet who comes in here and puts in an application

Being involved in business decisions will make you woke as fuck to how capitalism really works.

Kek

well Sup Forums, what did he really say?

top fucking kek, saved

b/c he put up the capital to purchase the machines and we have an iron will for private property that will never be broken no matter what commies say.

they can make infocrapics like this all they want, as soon as plebs realize the only way this works is the abolishment of private property, its game over. and yes, it is a slippery slope as has been proven time and again both in practice and philosophy.

>letting someone wearing that hat and expression into a place of business
Is this what commies believe?

>SUPER BUSY

Because he owns the means of production, and I buying your labor. He is NOT giving you money because he wants to, you are selling him something.

>why are you still entitled to even the tiniest fraction of the profit?
Because I could replace you with child labor. Or robots.

because hydro power has no effect on the environment

and because you can recycle 100% of everything in a cost efficient manner.

you're actually a retard.

May as well start with the original.

>people are retarded enough to think this gay comic is logical in any capacity

Anyone who would post this is doomed to fail at life, so OP, I suggest that suicide be in your immediate future.

is this loss????

I went over to my friends house on Saturday. He got a new fancy BBQ grill. Some laser cut steel kit that had to be assembled. We were drinking a few beers, just hanging out. By the time we actually got around to opening up the box with all the parts in it his 3yr old kid shit his pants. So he had to run inside and clean the kid up. I put the grill together in roughly 20 minutes, and was totally done by the time he got back outside.

Then because I did all the labor, I put the grill in the back of my pickup truck, and drove home, because its mine now since I made it.
>Communists literally think this way

1) Wealth tends to not last through generations. The idea of a landed aristocracy in modern capitalist countries is basically a myth with so few notable exceptions that they are essentially celebrities for standing out so much.

2) Owning a business is something anyone can do. There's no privilege to it. Any retard can pass grade 10 and get into trade school for like $2000, or start a lawncare business assuming they literally can work a shovel. All it takes is motivation to stop sitting on your ass all day.

3) Owners take all the risk with capital, and their vested interest in making sure it doesn't all go to shit is why capitalism BTFO of communism.

If you hate being an employee, open your own business. Fucking get permits for a hot-dog stand. Invest in yourself if you think you're actually worth half a fuck. I work with small business owners and anyone can do it. You can be the dumbest fucker as long as you're willing to work for it.

you exchange freedom for security when you work for someone.

The other person gains freedom at the expense of security.

When you work for someone, you first have to agree to work at a price mutually agreed upon.

Being trans IS a mental health problem.

Not really a question of "letting" them be trans. It's like "letting" someone be bipolar.

Question is whether or not you seek treatment for the mental illness in question.

I wonder if there's some future where "being bipolar is perfectly natural. There's nothing wrong with them. Stop being bipolarphobic" and all we do is not treat them. So they're just basically crazy and go unmedicated.

Here, this perfectly counters the point that artist tried to make

>Wealth tends to not last through generations
>what is a rothschild, rockefeller, kennedy... etc

clever

Saw that post coming a light year away

What is OSHA?

people like the author of this comic deserve to die in destitute poverty. Unfortunately, the are often rich white kids who have their rent paid by mommy and daddy like OP so they won't starve even if we cut off gibs. That's why we need proactive reactionary measures to stomp out commies wherever they fester.

Like a Cancer feeds off the host organism, they feed off the wealth of the productive class.

because he supplies all the capital necessary to run the business, plus he took the risk of buying the machinery and the factory instead of just living off of his inheritance.

Are you illiterate or just retarded? Read the rest of the fucking sentence.

This is how ducking businesses are run. People are slaves which is a Satanic worldwide phenomenon. Slave owners are the targets to anyone who follows Jesus Christ...
Example: computer companies give their employees 1/4th to 1/2 the profit and spend less than 1/20th the effort while assuming 1/2 of the profits.. great way to ask for people to literally burn you to the ground and common practice.

a product of socialist activism? you're welcome

We're wealthier than you, leaf

Ok, I audibly keked at this one

>third party trying to dictate the value of my labour
go away mate

>Believe in Santa
>Believe in communism
Everything checks out

>hello it is i, the strawman

A child does not have the mental capacity to consent to sex, let alone a sex change.

>socialist activism

someone has been drinking too many faceberg memes.

Fuck off leaf, the whole military-industrial complex is made of a couple of hundred rich families that stayed this way for the last few generations.

You're embarrasing us more than Trudeau. Stop.

Not sure why this is hard for retard capitalists or the autist communists.

Profit in a venture is equitably split between the investments both labor and owners put into a project over a period of time.

non labor costs / total costs (labor + non labor) = the split of profits that owners are entitled to, the remainder is to be split among labor in proportion to their wages.

The value that equipment brings to a venture is not hard to calculate. It's the price of the equipment + the cost of non labor maintenance over the course of that equipment's expected life / expected life.

But please continue the fantasy that equipment doesn't entitle the owner to profits, or that labor for some reason has no entitlement beyond wages. I like hearing these fairy tale fantasies.

>extremely limited socialism made my point irrelevant !
>And I knew it all along !
>You're welcome !
>International revolution now pls !

You're going to cringe at the memory of this thread some day, if you don't get killed trying to burn down a capitalist pigdog city first.

Nothings stopping you from taking out a load and starting your buisiness, except for the fact that you're a degenerate marxist pussy.

Just take some mescalin and fuck right off of Sup Forums you hippie

> 4-panel cartoon to depict volumes of economic theory and policy over centuries
> flag checks

...

Well?

Why doesn't the numale cuck also just build his own means of production?

i think the idea that you guys are retarded mostly comes down to the fact that a job so simple that a monkey can do it is over complicated by best practices bullshit and a bunch of stuff that makes it absolutely obvious none of you high earning shit heads know your ass from the handle of a spatula. If you had any incling of how worthless most of the higher paid positions actually are you could pay us better salleries and make more profits besides. This will unfortunately put out a bunch of arrogant nannies and retarded hr feminists from your ranks though so go ahead and keep supporting their busy work.

>'due to my privilege'
Stopped reading right there

>Literally every minimum wage job I worked is like that.

You're lying.

>be 16 year old busser. Push button, tables cleaned????