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Of Spanish decent baptized Catholic, but I hear of many people switching over to Orthodox Christian? I don't see the difference, can you goys elaborate on that and the role it plus in Nationalism?

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If you are of Spanish descent and Catholic you should remain where you are.

I was thinking that, because it is part of my culture but the Catholic church of today doesn't really aline with my beliefs I guess, and from what I here orthodoxy is practically the same but more national?

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See for yourself
Asking around on Sup Forums won't do you good

Not good lol, how is the orthodox church in Russia? Does it align to the peoples ideals or does the church have set nationalist tendencies

I figured but I thought I would try and get a opinion from Sup Forums peeps

To sum up Orthodoxy
>you can divorce your wife three times :^)
>you can wear condoms and have lust filled orgies as much as you want :^)

The true redpill is Independent Baptist Christianity.

You're right that Orthodoxy and Catholicism are practically the same. They are both the same Church. It depends on what part of the Catholic Church you have issues with.

Orthodoxy seems nationalistic because of its structure. Each Orthodox Church is granted autocephaly based on national borders, but the Churches are still under the Patriarchate of Constantinople, much the same as the Archdioceses of Spain are under the authority of the Bishop of Rome.

Make your decision based on your faith in Christ and his Church, and not for reasons of nationality.

I wish I could live to see the Church united.

>you can divorce your wife three times :^)
>you can wear condoms and have lust filled orgies as much as you want :^)
You see, that's OK in your book because I can simply BELIEVE in Christ and that means I'm saved
>I wish I could live to see the Church united
I wouldn't because that'd signal the end times

>>you can wear condoms and have lust filled orgies as much as you want

You know nothing of Orthodoxy.

>If you want to go to hell for believing a false Gospel, remain where you are.

LOL well I believe in the sanctity of marriage, so thats not up my alley to get divorced

No because you are believing a false religion. Catholics will not be saved.

Only very slight superficial differences; neither have anything to do with Christianity. They both have their own thing going on.

One pope v 10 elders, neither having a clue who the Holy Spirit is, and neither having a clue what salvation means, or how it is obtained.

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Amen to that my man

>Catholics will not be saved
They won't
>No because you are believing a false religion
I'm not a Catholic
Wrong

Thanks user I feel like thats the obvious, I feel comfortable as a catholic and attending my local church, but I'm just wondering whats out there

>OK in your book
WRONG! You have to REPENT! Repentance isn't just saying "sorry", it's about changing your way.
If you are lukewarm you will be spit out on the day of judgement.
If you just say "sorry" and keep sinning you will go to HELL!
God isn't stupid. He KNOWS if you are genuine.

>I wouldn't because that'd signal the end times

I hope to see the end times.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

It's corrupt business corporation. That's all.

I'm not sure about the 10 elders part, but the rest of it I'm absolutely sure about. I have never bothered to learn the Nicolaitan structure of the Orthodox church, as again it has nothing to do with the Kingdom of God, and everything to do with its own power base.

Salvation, and heaven, are out there.

But not if you stay where you're comfy.

Sola ego

Ephesians 2:8-9

We will see it, likely before we die.

You can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah.

sadly this

Do some "extra-curricular" activities like reading the Church Fathers on your own. Note that they are approved by the Roman Church.

I'm sorry you're mired in the traditions of men, and if you think you have anything to do with the original apostles, I'm even more sorry for you.

Read Russian lit: Dostoevsky, Gogol, Turgenev, Pushkin etc.

The Latins are nothing like the Greeks and Russians. The Latins will never admit this, and they'll always stay mad about it.

All of the church fathers are in the bible, so yes, read the bible.

Amen.

Don't be sorry. Repent your vain pride

So you mean that salvation is achieved through actions?
That's very counter-reformed of you
>but the rest of it I'm absolutely sure about
From a heretical "flavour of the week" protestant, it might seem like insignificant changes
But baptism
Communion bread
Orthodox theosis
Power structure
Dogma
Accepted books
And the fact that priests aren't considered more than simple humans is vastly different in actual religions
Those original apostoles set up the traditions
And your church is based on poor and barbaric Germanic tradition
Not just traditions of men
Traditions of backwards men

Oh my.

We will see the end times, likely before we die, but unfortunately you are on the devil's side.

It's not too late, if you act today.

Baptist crusader, I've heard it all now lads stick a fork in me I'm done

Clement is in the bible. Have you ever read Clement?

I could say the same to you too
It's not too late, Orthodoxy is bigger than ever

If you are ever saved, you will know that the mark of the saved, born again Christian is a natural love for other saved, born again Christians.

You're whatever you are, but that thing is not a saved, born again Christian. And as Jesus said, lest you be born again in the Spirit, you will in no wise enter into the Kingdom of God.

I see people a lot of the time on this board talk about how our beliefs are a falsity put upon us but as a man of Spanish, Italian decent I feel like my faith along with most is a great part of our culture that we just can't throw away

Funny how protestants say faith alone then say that catholics (who do have faith thus will be saved under faith alone) are going to hell.

Why am I going to hell user? I believe Christ died for my sins?

Any traditions the apostles set up are contained in the scriptures, so again it would be the scriptures controlling, and not the traditions.

The differences you perceive between the left leg of Roman Catholicism and the right leg of Eastern Orthodoxy are insignificant and irrelevant, being only temporary and terrestrial differences. Only eternal things matter, and neither Rome nor Constantinople are eternal things.

Once, in helping Paul.

How many books of the bible did Paul write?
How many books of the bible did Clement write?

I'll stick with Paul's inspired writings.

It is too late.

I cannot choose to be damned. I gave up that right when I was saved.

I am born again in the spirit and I love everyone. Why won't I be saved?

So the non-believers are on the devil's side, the Orthodox are on the Devil's side, the Catholics are on the devil's side. And since Paul believed the bread and wine of the Eucharist were the actual body and blood of Christ, he's on the devil's side. You make it sound like you're the only one who's not on the devil's side. So for all eternity it'll just be you and Jesus sitting around in heaven. Do I have that right?

Show me the bible verse where it says you will be saved if you believe Christ died for your sins.

Do you know that (((their))) plan is to empty the catholic church and fill the orthodox one right?

The Orthodox church has been under control of the KGB and now FSB for more than 100 years. Don't fall for the orthodox meme.

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You aren't, don't, and practice lawlessness.

When Jesus says "depart from me, ye workers of iniquity, I do not know you", it will be to you and yours.

Looks like an ebin good time

Where does it say sola scripture in the scriptures?

Yup. Few there are on the narrow path that leads to life, and many are they on the broad road that leads to destruction.

Cannibals and vampires are not wanted by the Kingdom of God.

>The differences you perceive between the left leg of Roman Catholicism and the right leg of Eastern Orthodoxy are insignificant and irrelevant, being only temporary and terrestrial differences
You have yet to say how "insignificant" the differences are
Only thing concrete is that Orthodox Christians are the ones fighting the Mark of the beast
I never saw any heretics doing the same

>Any traditions the apostles set up are contained in the scriptures
Said Apostles set up said Churches and said Churches eventually developed traditions that in no way counteract with dogma
Haha, good one
Are you a fucking dumbass? I'm pretty sure you are

>implying that's worse than the kikes and CIA.

Give me a break.

2 Tim. 3:16-17

LOL

You're wrong about salvation. Orthodox salvation is the most redpilled.

Whoa that's not sola fides. You sound like a catholic now

You're wrong about X one way, and the Catholics are wrong about X a different way.

The way you both are wrong doesn't matter; only that you're wrong.

The Mark of the Beast has not even been created yet, so I have no idea how you are "fighting" it.

If by "redpilled" you mean "hating the Jews", Jesus was a Jew.

Why am I not? How do you know?

I've been to every fucking Baptist church in North Texas and they're all degeneracy-filled shit.
There are pedophiles all over the children's ministry; the kids are fucking each other in the bathrooms on Sunday; the men's groups are full of porn-watching scum; and the leadership is out to farm cash from their docile cattle.
Typical sermon:
>Antinomianism isn't heresy! God forgives your sins ecks dee! You'll fail, trying to be holy doesn't work! :D:D :DDD
>BUT IF YOU DON'T TITHE YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!!!! D:D:D:

>Protestant '''''''(((church)))''''''

Christian zionists need to go extinct.

Sola fide is in the bible. Ephesians 2:8

Show me in the bible where what YOU say is true, is true.

Doesn't say sola scripture

Problem with your sorry excuse of an argument is that we're not wrong
We're consistent
The Orthodox Church is the same as it always has been
>The Mark of the Beast has not even been created yet
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AND YOU CLAIM TO BE SAVED
Jesus was from Galilee (a place where other Jews barely consider them Jewish), spoke Greek and Aramaic, and didn't look like a Jew

But see this is what I'm asking, how is it "red pilled"

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Because I've been doing this for decades, and because I've already told you above (and you missed it).

Jhn 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

1Co 11:27 Whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
1Co 11:29For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

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We'll be taken offplanet soon.

Be careful what you wish for.

It only says faith alone one place in the bible. Try and find it. Hint its in james

What claims would you like verified against scripture?

Wow, your post is rude
I'll be crying about it in heaven

All
Every

These words mean things.

Nice quads bro.

Consistently wrong is nothing to brag about. You have been consistently wrong since the Tower of Babel.

Revelation 13
He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

We're not even in Revelation 4 yet.

Mat 25:41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Mat 25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Mat 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

My fellow orthodox bros you guys need to stop pray to idols its fucked.

How do I be born again in the spirit then? Which of the 33000 protestant denomination mega churches must I pledge my life and tithes to in order to get a rebaptism?

Let me put this in a better way, The russian orthodox church atleast

Jesus was a Jew.
Mother was a Jew
Adopted stepfather was a Jew
Both were of the Tribe of Judah
Both were of the House of David.
Jesus was circumcised on the 8th day
Jesus is the Seed of Abraham.
Jesus is the Root of David.
Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
Jesus is the King of the Jews.

By hating Jews, you hate Jesus.

And you want me to believe you are a follower of Jesus? No, you and yours made up your own Jesus, who was not a Jew, even though He taught the torah in the Temple, in Hebrew, and people called Him rabbi. And rabboni.

Quote where it says sola scripture. Good luck it doesn't exist and was invented by luther

Because they hate Jews.

I don't speak Portuguese

Oh okay thanks user, see thats a direct answer

At this point I think you're just making things up.

>So you mean that salvation is achieved through actions?
>That's very counter-reformed of you
Faith is essential to salvation, and without faith no man can be saved. But it says NOWHERE in the bible that faith alone is enough. It's quite the opposite.
Read John 12:42-43 , James 2:19-20 and James 2:14-24

Yes, I know the verses you are relying upon, and I know what they mean. Unlike you, of course.

Because at the last supper, Jesus handed out bread and wine, and said they symbolized His body and blood.

He did not carve out chunks of his body for His disciples to eat, and did not tap a vein for them to drink His blood.

Such is an abomination.

But since you are an animal, and think only of physical food and physical drink, you are completely unaware of the importance of spiritual food and spiritual drink, which is the Holy Spirit of God inside a believer.

>Implying that's not the same thing.

The Roman Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon, no matter how many times she lies and says she isn't.

Ephesians 2:8 is not in James
Neither is John 3:16.
Neither is Romans 10

check'd

But no, no you will not.

Salvation of other denominations includes winning back God's love and favor

Orthodox believe God has never stopped offering his love and favor. It's us that must claim it. Salvation is a window in a dark room, casting sunlight to only a fraction of the room. To enter salvation you must live your life a certain way - through prayer, both in your home and at church, fasting, and generally not being a fucking degenerate.

Why does the orthodox church hate jews?

Yup. I know where your "works" doctrine comes from.

This passage is after the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, and applies not to Christians in this age, but to the Tribulation Saints in the Tribulation.

Completely different deal, with different requirements, and different rewards, at different times.

Does not say faith alone in any of those verses

Jesus was God first and foremost

Isaiah 21 says otherwise, calling "Babylon" a city "in a desert by the sea in a terrible land" "In arabia" Also Arabs aren't human they're beasts, hence "mark of the beast" It can't be whites but the anti christ will be the white overlord since he's described as good looking. Roma is too white to be evil