SAVE NET NEUTRALITY!

SAVE NET NEUTRALITY!

nah

Don't buy internet from your ISP if they block reddit, as easy as that.

lol u have no right to say nah without net neutrality

fuck you retard
nigger puppet

at least give an argument, not just slogans. What is a proble, if someone give you a cable that will connect you with some servers and others will be block, you're free to say no (and switch to other ISP).

the problem*

>just dont use the internet! its not a human right or anything
t. liberal

It actually hemos russians spread their propaganda. I did choose McBurger and FB over Tumblr and Paranormal news, coorporations do marketing, kremlin psy-ops brainwash entire generations.

Sign the bill

read up on it.

NetNeutrality has as much to do with internet neutrality as does a law called:

"Protect children" that has numerous clauses about 50 pages in on legalizing child rape and murder.

>don't buy internet if they take away your precious reddit
>reeeeeeee!
Jesus Christ go the fuck back

Just switch to other ISP, if there is monopolies (I don't know the US situation) it's because they are cheap and effective. If they start to downgrade their product competition will come.

no

How is a product that someone else provides to you a right?

Government control guised as corporate control is still government control. You're an idealistic sheep.

>Cause God told Moises in mount Sinai.

you mean like running water and electricity and roads?

The US ISPs exist because they're licensed. It's still under government control, retard.

when the fuck do they make a decision

If the internet dies I might finally be free. So no.

what makes you think that ALL government control is bad? Capitalism needs to be balanced.

Oh yeah like the US Government doesn't block websites now, they don't need a law.

then this should be the fight you should be fighting of, not regulating those licenses.

Tell that to the Obamacare lovers
This. Regardless if the government is already spying on us on the internet, we don't want to give them more power. Imagine having to agree to random search history searches because now that the government has control, they force ISPs to make you sign a contract allowing it. Literally the worst thing that could happen to the internet, is by giving it a 'home'

Where have you been all those years? The government is already spying you.

Yeah they are, but through a keyhole. Don't go giving them the keys to the door

>what makes you think that ALL government control is bad?

It isn't; Government control of the internet or any other form of medium restrict the spread of knowledge and free thought. Why do you think the Chinese are so uncreative?

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

Hmm, either shills are getting better or the world is getting better but abandoning net neutrality and Macron-ism appeal to me lately.

However, the downside with abandoning net neutrality is the fear of ISP's just not providing the entire service to their clients.

However I do not think ISP's could afford to actually limit people who are not only using facebook and youtube for long.

>government calls it net neutrality

If it's anything like the affordable care act, the patriot act, the American reinvestment act, it will be the opposite of neutrality

Shit writing style tonight, I apologize.

>Why do you think the Chinese are so uncreative?
Creativity has nothing to do with government. They may be able to supress people's creativity, but to say the government influences a person's ability to be creative? No

no, too much regulation, as with too little, is bad. you need a certain amount to balance everything. we are in control until we become unthinking.

getting shot or imprisoned for saying things is a pretty obvious reason to not be creative.

When it comes to technological development, this kicks in when you can't tell some party toadie that he's a retard and his ideas are shit.

Why don't you make me

Like I said, governments and peoples of power can supress someone, but cannot remove a person's creativity. That's like trying to remove natural insticnct.

Yes.

>water electricity and roads are rights
heavy implications there

Exactly. Everyone is trying to fix the problem of ISPs by regulating them into conformity, which will ironically only create more monopolies due to the nature of regulations.

Because it is now integral to getting a job. 80% jobs now require applying online and having the means of applying online, like resumes, CVs, cover letters etc.

You basically need tech and the internet these days to live in society, even if you don't use the internet for social media, chats, video feeds.

literally what is wrong with some of you fucking idiots?

>let them do all this shit so we have to sit around and wait for them to realize that theyre bad boys so we can buy from them again
why not just stop them from doing it in the first place? wtf

and the internet isnt a fucking product, wtf is wrong with you? you need to spend more time on Sup Forums

>you're free to say no (and switch to other ISP)
>implying there's more than two choices for ISP in most of the US
SHILL ALERT

Imo the only regulation needed on ISPS are minimum data speeds. Half the country has 5mb/s while others have 5gb/s.
And I'm not talking about "premium" ISP subscriptions, just the basic Internet packages

>you've encountered a wild feminist

mfw Sup Forums has been cucked by trump so hard they are literally against net neutrality now

>implying that net neutrality is a black and white issue
Google shills everyone

>switch to other ISP
>60% of US households only have 1 option for 20 mbit/s broadband
Why are you talking about this when you clearly don't grasp the fundamental problem

>a fucking idiot calling me a shill

It's at stake because government officials don't understand the internet and they're usually rocking dinosaur technology.

Good argument. Now try to dont cry.

>why not just stop them from doing it in the first place? wtf

Yea good luck stopping a bunch of arrogant faggots that not give a flying fuck about your personal internet addiction problems Abdu.

i will try to do not cry
:^)

If the government has a monopoly on violence or public goods, it means they are cheap and effective. If they start to downgrade their product competition will come.
Wtf im ancap socialist now

Don't restrict internet access or do restrict internet access.

Seems pretty black and white to me.

Net neutrality solves a problem that doesnt exist.

This is just the governments first step towards regulating internet traffic. Next they will block traffic they don't like etc. Nobody have read Animal Farm? This is how it works.

Also, net neutrality does nothing to ensure "equality" for traffic. Netflix and all the big content providers are already either having their own content delivery networks or buying CDN services that ensure quality of service.

sounds like fag talk to me

Part of that is due to low demand though. No one out in rural bumfuck north dakota really needs nor cares for anything other than 5mb/s. Because there isn't a lot of demand and the cost of laying down new infrastructure is probably expensive, they're stuck with the 5mb/s speeds. A minimum data speed regulation would just force companies to spend money improving infrastructure in an area that wouldn't utilize it to its full potential.

If Net Neutrality dies, the US will literally be worse than the UK.
You thought TV licenses were bad?

But that doesn't mean those rural areas deserve shitty roads, does it?

Is this going to end up in the "but what about roads" argument against ancaps?

Nah, I'm just making a comparison of what you're saying is all. I understand and agree with what you said, however that doesn't make it right.

You're so fucking retarded about your own ideology I want to punch you in the face. Monopolies don't just evaporate without intervention. They stay around for decades and get larger and larger; eventually they expand into other industries and attempt to monopolize them as well.

Libertarians are so anti-pragmatic I don't know how they get themselves out of bed in the morning.

How the fuck did pol become like this? Shit was way different before.

Care to be a bit more specific, faggot?

fuck off newfag

SAVE NET NEUTRALITY!

Yeah fuck my ideology I'll have to wait for your sucker punch before killing you painfully.

ideology is fine for perfectly logical beings, but we are irrational. stop being so idealistic.