Do you want to enter websites like Sup Forums ect... For free or pay for them?

Do you want to enter websites like Sup Forums ect... For free or pay for them?
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Fuck yeah I'll pay if it keeps niggers and poorfags out.

Unless ISPs are allowed to throttle, Netflix addicts and heavy p2p users will suck up 95% of the bandwidth and leave nothing for everyone else.

>new fees
Wait isn't net neutrality like 4 years old? Wouldn't that make any fees imposed after it is repealed technically old fees?

False.

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Sup Forums might even gonna get blocked and banned
and your favorite websites can get blocked and you would have to pay everyday

Why do we keep having to fight this thing back

What can we do to give it a death blow?

I know theres groups going on about free internet and that it is a basic human right.

Maybe congress needs to put something about maintaining net neutrality in its bill of rights?

Or maybe some smart scriptees will make a program to ensure that the net remains neutral.

break up the cable monopolies first nigger faggots

>Fuck the corporations! They're charging us too much! The government need to intervene in their business to make sure I can afford everything that I want!

You people are acting like niggers.

>save the internet by giving the kiked fed government full control
brilliant

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Sup Forums has spoken

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Nothing is free, you shitbag.

You can go back and shove that fucking spacing up your arse!

good goyim just let jewgle and amazon do whatever the fuck they want, surely they have the best interest of all you goys at heart

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FREE MARKET OR REGULATION?

There actual proof they're gonna do this shit or is this all hyperbole?

Yes! Let them do whatever the fuck they want, and if I don't like it, I won't use their services. Let Jeff Bezos make his billions.

Literally zero proof. This will almost certainly not happen.

>net neutrality didn't exist until 2015
>net neutrality as proposed still doesn't exist
>companies have yet to block Sup Forums or price gauge everything
>but surely the government wont do those things

> Ay hol up nigga hol up hol up dat shit be too expensih knawmsayin dem crackas be conchrollin dat shieeet hol up da gubmint need to gibmedat shit fo free knawmsayin hol up for reprashuns knawmsayin shiiiieeeettt

This board has finally become what they hate. Thanks Reddit

Save net neutrality! I fucking hate capitalists.

we wuz internauts

>Enforce a de facto standard through consumer choice in a free market.

You are asking the wrong questions

If they block Sup Forums then I will support NN
Until then fuck off

Agreed. Tired of shills, larpers and poorfags/liberals

That's literally exactly how it's worked the last 30 years.

Dude isps are the ruthless

The isps were only able to gain a foothold becuase those that set up the infrastructure and laid all that cable went under, and te isps bought it at a premium.

Why do the business want to do this?

Dont they make a shit ton of money already?

If you wanted to privatize the internet then you should have rolled it out like that, but no.
You gave us something and now you want to smash it up and break it up into tiny pieces.
You cant do that, people will be too angry.

The best way to do that would be piece by little piece so its hardly noticable.

blame your local government, faggots. they're the reason for localized monopolies that created this mess. stop trying to solve problems before you get to the root of their cause. you're all acting like leftist retards.

Stop playing identity politics fag, just because you're conservative on most issues doesn't mean you have to dickride everything they try to pass.

Give me one reason why we needed NN in 2015?

I'm assuming you were the dude that last night made a thread about making a "Gang" to fight for net neutrality.

>Why do the business want to do this?
>Dont they make a shit ton of money already?
Yes, but like every other business, they want to make more money. If you think it's too expensive, then don't pay for it. If enough people stop paying for it, then they'll have to lower the price.

Thats a new fallacy for me now

Argumentum ad formatum

I dont like to strain my eyes.
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why are you niggers so scared about this again all of a sudden?

is it just an effective slide technique to get us to stop talking about pic or is there some shit coming down the pipeline that you are worried about?

i think you're sweating balls right now

I don't quite understand, but how does net neutrality save competition?
Comcast would face competition from cheaper ISPs if they ramped up their prices and adapt or lose corporate value, without net neutrality.
With Net Neutrality, they can't do this and can thus keep their costs at a steady price while they can't block any sites which effectively makes them non-controversial outside of price.

Or just find some stupid way to make you have it

Kinda funny how everyone is so attached to their phones these days huh

net neutrality advocates are so fucking dumb it's a miracle they manage to remember to breathe

>DUDE THA COROPORATIOMNZ WANNA TAKE AWAY YOUR FAVORITE WEBSITES N SHIT FOR NO REASON

>2017
>still doesn't use meshnet
ISHYGDDTS

It's been around since the late 80's.

that is a huge part of the problem. it only just strengthens the monopoly those corporations have via regulatory burden butting out potential competitors.

God damnit, it's the fucking contrarian Norwegian again.

In moste sane countries, the lines are rented out to the ISPs, but they own them in the good ol' US of A. Anyone wishing to enter the market will have to lay down their own lines, if they want to compete with Comcast or Verizon who just so happened to have lobbied the local government into putting regulations in place that make it nearly impossible for even google to lay down their own lines.

So government assisted monopolies would allow them to buttfuck most everyone and you can't even go to the other guy because he doesn't exist.

>net neutrality
The way the internet's been run since the late 80s

>Net Neutrality
Legislation introduced in 2015 by Obama to "protect and preserve" the internet by granting increased regulatory authority to the FCC

I already bought my Sup Forums pass, what else do you want from me?

Not being able to enter Sup Forums would be a blessing for 98% of us.

Wouldn't having the government seize the lines so that they could (and would) be hired be a proper solution then?

Although, that might sound a bit too socialist for America.

there's nothing wrong with the internet, the internet has been open and free for 20+ years.

why would anyone be in favor of net neutrality AKA total government control over the internet to regulate as they see fit?

>Sup Forums exposes CNN for doing stupid shit again
>jew at CNN pays for his friends to cut off Sup Forums
>anyone who tries to criticize this suddenly gets their internet crippled
hmm

So how exactly does net neutrality work? why does anyone want to change the internet now? does it have a misleading name to make net neutrality sound good when it is not? i remember FOPA and SOPA. i thought we killed this shit.

i hope this is bait

good point actually.

check the catalog for net neutrality threads before spamming
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Crowder made a pretty good video about it a few years ago.

youtube.com/watch?v=0cLWgTIsMLM

Oh wow someone with a Nazi flag he must definitely be on our side and I should totally listen to whatever he has to say.
Sage

that's not how it works...

I hope this is bait

Yeah, refuse to use their service and then realise there is no other company to switch to.

It's a Trojan horse to get the federal government more control over the internet through the FCC.

That is wrong. The law had been around since the late 80's. The phrase Net nuetrality was coined in 2005. It has nothing to with Obama. Stop this false narrative.

thanks. ive looked this shit up five times and it still hurts my brain

> If you think it's too expensive, then don't pay for it. If enough people stop paying for it, then they'll have to lower the price.

Yeah, until a new bill comes out requiring everyone pay for platinum level internet access from ISPs even if they don't even use email. Just like obamacare and "insurance" requirements. Just don't do anything and it will solve itself by people paying for what they want. Government can't have people making voluntary interactions so we gotta do net "neutrality" even though that is what we have had up until relatively recently.

>Implying the alternative is better.

It's going to be regulated either way. At least this way it's cheap and uncensored.

>your mom won't go lower than 15 quid for a half-b-half
>she's the only ho in town
Got fuck everyone if you fuck someone. Ho-neutrality.

Don't you understand? We'll never kill it, man. Every single time anything is done to stop it, they'll just wait a little while and try to shove it through under a new name.

They're not even relying on being able to smuggle it past any of us. They're relying on issue fatigue. Look at the posts about it all over the fucking internet right now. "Are you guys on about this AGAIN?" That's what they want.

This happens all over politics. If any Irish bros are reading this, please do explain all the times this was done to you guys in the last 15 years or so over dumb shit like bank bailouts, referendums that were posed again and again until you gave the "right" answer or nobody bothered turning up.

We in Britain were really scared that our EU referendum would turn into a "neverendum" too, something that we repeatedly get posed until we answer Remain like good goyim.

It's even worse with laws than it is with issues you can actually vote directly on since repeatedly posing the same fucking thing costs practically nothing compared to repeatedly holding a vote.

Constant vigilance is the only solution for now, and that's only a stop-gap. In the long term, people who actually understand this shit and care (And there are loads on the internet, look at the gigantic community of open source autists who code "free as in freedom" variants of every kike proprierary platform) are going to have to establish some kind of parallel internet or something, some means of having another service or protocol that's out of the reach of legislators.

I barely understand computer technology myself, sadly.

Anyone who says this issue is 'Companies vs. the people' is wrong. It just giant companies vs. other giant companies.

Yeah fuck subhumans. Determinism all the way.

Oh shit, yea this is a big deal user

are you 12 years old ? do you know 1 thing about ISPs ? do you know that there are more providers than one. are you aware that these people don't care about you making a pepe meme of CNN that much to run their business into the ground, which they would do if they BLoCkED Sup Forums because some journalist on CNN was butthurt? hypothetically do you know how fast their competitors would swallow up the demand and get the people in need back on Sup Forums? is your brains just full of memes, do you live in the real world?

Too "Un-America" and we we actually need to drain the fucking swamp to prevent them from being sold back.

Hiro doesn't understand how this country works. That was probably added by that mod who thinks he's a celebrity.

let it happen - all the cool people will get around it and we can go back to internet 1.0

bullshit. They have actually started doing it, even with net neutrality in effect.

In an ideal world, net neutrality would not be needed, the free market would drive neutrality. In reality, the internet is a monopoly, or if you are lucky, a doupoly.

fuck off you jewy libertarian, I don't wanna pay more for my internet and have it companies control what i see and what i dont see because of "muh freemarket" bullshit.

Fuck you and fuck milton Friedman. Sick and tired of you fucking retarded ass libertarians, Go join your failed ass fuck communist counterparts and die in a pit of shit.

There were no net neutrality rules before 2015. This is not Armageddon for the internet

i gotta hand it to the net neutrality advocates, it's almost impressively deceptive. they're adverstising government regulation of the internet with buzzwords like "net NEUTRALITY" and SAVING the internet, as if something is being taken away by some shadowy force. incredible how effective memes are.

>I don't wanna pay more for my internet
Then don't. No one's making you. If you're really that poor, you don't need to use the internet, but you can go to your local library and use it for free.

>That is wrong. The law had been around since the late 80's
Alright, where is it? Show me exact piece of federal legislation that standardized network neutrality on the web.

let me get this straight, you don't want the ISP companies(which you can switch at ANY time) to see what you're doing on the intenet, but you want the GOVERNMENT to see what you're doing ? LMAO

There was a reason it was created. You are ignoring that reason. I don't want the internet censored and divided into data packets.

Useful idiot of corporations.
>But muh free markets will make things cheaper
>But it will all work out in the end!
>b-b-b-b-b-ut well get more freedom!

But that's how it works. Adding regulations only ever necessitates adding more regulations.

The govt. is supposed to follow the 5th amendment. We already know mega corps. Will sell your data. Do you really want your insurance company to know you enjoy traps?

internet is pretty much a necessity. If there was a free market, you would just choose a provider that didnt jew you. if you live in the big city, you *might* have a choice between two major ISPs. thats it.

Cheap i will agrer with

But uncensored?

You think the governments gonna let you look at the next presidential encumbants leaked emails to wikipedia?
You think they wont put a filter on classified material through targeted word search?

Its gonna be just like the railroads
Either they are gonna be government owned or business owned.

I think the people need to co opt the infrastructure, lay their own fiber optics, launch their own satellites
And create a free net.

Government is still gonna see what your doing no matter what, your delusional as fuck if home land security is just gonna back off because "Muh freemarket"

All thats gonna happen is your gonna get charged up the ass and still have big brotha goberment watching you.

I want net neutrality removed because I believe it's another stepping stone on collapsing the U.S. economy and possibly the nation itself. Ruining the internet for everyone would be hilarious.

Yea the monopoly internet services are just gonna drop the prices now because they are so kind and want your money, Get fucking real dude. Thats like saying gas companies will constantly drop there prices in a race to the bottom. Doesn't work that way.

I just thought of something:

>John Oliver talks about how we need Net Neutrality to protect us from the evil cable companies
>John Oliver's show is on HBO
>HBO is owned by Time Warner
>Time Warner owns Time Warner Cable

What's their endgame?

This will be the actual future tho
>Kek poorfag spic here on government internet welfare
>I don't have to pay to use Sup Forums like everyone else
>Fuck drumpf fuck white people
>black man here on California internet freedom to take down blocked sites to tell you all fuck drumpf
Can't wait for George soros to give out a million accounts and pay for them to access here..

>14year olds forcing the switch meme again
Here, have a map of the places with more than one service provider.

.t double digit IQ

gl in your quest to give the government full control of the internet to regulate as they see fit

Content providers (netflix, google, etc.) prefer to consolidate all their servers into a single monolithic data center and have the ISP pay for the infrastructure required to backhaul all that data out of one point to the end user.

The ISPs either want the content providers to decentralize their server infrastructure to be closer, network wise, to the end user, or to pay MUH FAIR SHARE to the ISP for the costs of building a distribution network capable of delivering their content.

This is a disagreement between the content providers and the network providers, and they should work it out among themselves without the government getting involved. The scare tactic of them trying to convince the end user that they are going to have to pay a premium to access their favorite site is complete bullshit designed to get you to side with one mega corporation who doesn't want to pay another mega corporation for the use of their resources.

So was the internet any worse to use before? Not really.

stop being poor move somewhere else

I don't think the ISPs own the lines in my area. Well idk they may own the physical line but they lease the pole space, and actually the local government stepped in a couple of years ago and told them to fuck off and stop accessing the poles, and the biggest isp here sold off most of their bucket truck fleet because they couldn't personally do shit with them any more.

fine don't wanna listen, let it pass then. Well see what happens afterwards. fuck it dude. SS this post. all thats gonna happen is people are gonna get charged up the ass for everything now and shits going to get censored more. w/e fuck it.

right.... i get to choose between at&T, TWC, and comcast. Im sure one of them will not fuck me in the ass.

I'm willing to bet that represents a vast majority of Americans.

I want to pay. Free market is the best