Explain net neutrality to me

who should I support and how does this affect me

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Net neutrality is basically a rule by the government that internet service providers must treat all internet data the same and with neutrality. So if net neutrality is banned then companies could block Sup Forums and any other website they want from your internet for "racism" or "misogyny" or whatever they feel against. They would basically be censoring internet data that they don't agree with.

thanks for the reply is it true that trump supports banning it

ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS NET NEUTRALITY IS A JEW SHILL
youtube.com/watch?v=J7J1o67-Qjo

Holy fucking shit, this video drops hard fucking redpills.

Net Neutrality is jewish in nature and brainwashes our children.

Enjoy being docile human beings for the rest of your life.

Get fucked niggers

Net Neutrality is inherintly anti-fascist. We need digital fascism to prevent the populace being brainwashed by useless information.

You're the ones LARPing as a """"Libertarian"""" and then when someone takes your stupid little internet away you cry like a big stupid baby. Get fucked nigger

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Telcom Companies setting up different Internet Deals. Afterall it is annarcho capitalistic.

Go back to plebbit, niggers

yes, though i suspect he doesn't have a strong position on it

net neutrality gets associated with the left because a lot of the tech world is lefty urbanites, but it's really a centrist issue

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It's a policy that forces internet providers to be 'neutral' on the content of the data you send and receive. So for example if your power company could see what appliance your power bill was going to they couldn't charge less for powering a Philips TV than a Sony one because the made a deal with the manufacturer.

Republicans are generally against net neutrality because;
-net neutrality would require more laws and they're supposedly the less government is better party
-it stifles competition (but that's moot in areas where with only 1-2 ISPs)
-corporate lobbyists paying them off (on both sides)
-some other retarded stuff because government officials in general don't understand technology

Sounds sweet!

>(but that's moot in areas where with only 1-2 ISPs)

This is the real problem. If there was actual competition for internet service in the US then net neutrality wouldn't really matter, as free market would take care of it.
Where I live AT&T is literally the only option unless I want to go with shit tier satellite internet. If AT&T decides to fuck me up the ass I have no choice but to take it.

Yeah, it's pretty essential here. Canada's largest city only has 2 ISPs that own infrastructure and they've tried multiple times to make their own version of Youtube and Spotify and force it into the market by not charging any internet fees for them.
Thankfully the government ruled against it. They were pretty shitty services too and died off without the advantage.

It prevents Comcast from charging you to browse certain sites or slow down their competition. Comcast is losing on cord cutters, and wants to throttle the Internet to make their profits back.

Turn on a faucet. Water comes out. The utilities provider doesn't care if you use that water for drinking or cleaning or waterboarding a nigger, they just bill you for the volume consumed. That's net neutrality.

What (((Comcast))) and similar giants want to do is adjust prices according to what they want you to do with your digital water. You can drink from your Comcast-provided toilet with the standard package, but have to pay extra for tap water or washing your car, and waterboarding a nigger is grounds for immediate termination of service.

Basically if you oppose net neutrality then you are a racist sexist homophobic islamophobic piece of shit bigot.

>Some other retarded stuff
Sounds like a solid take on what liberals understand of it.

No, "Net Neutrality" is yet another scam devised by those that want big companies to stay big and the small companies to never have a chance. Forcing smaller companies to adhere to the same standards as the big ones only gimps them immediately and removes the competition from the playing field.

What's that? You like the government running every aspect of your life? You must be a huge fan of the DHS and NSA datamining the ever loving shit out of every single google search and amazon purchase you make! Boy, can't wait til everyone looks and acts exactly the same under Internet Communism! What a glorious thing it will be!

Stop being lazy and do your own research. This is no small decision to make. One thing I have found is that BOTH sides in the private sector claim they're against censorship and BOTH sides claim the opposing side doesn't know what it really means. Some advice, see who supports either side and decide for yourself.

>Net Neutrality will protect us from big and evil corporations from throttling us :(
You mean like it's doing now? Don't make me laugh. Half the country suffers from regular throttling, while we're under Net Neutrality. It hasn't done shit to help us in the least.

I would argue that WITH Net Neutrality, the government could more easily pass a law that infringes on your free speech, using the internet as a medium, since all ISPs would have to adhere to the new federal standards. No, we should NOT give the government even more power over our free speech, thanks.

Liberal retards think highly sophisticated internet traffic works the same as groundwater

Normally you buy internet that isn't being tampered with by your provider.
Without net neutrality, Comcast can tamper with your experience. They can slow certain sites down, censor sites they don't like, let certain sites have no data caps, block all bittorrent traffic, slow down netflix, etc.

Net neutrality makes providers just sell internet without saying how you should use it.

It's a fallacy to imply that because one type of law passes over the internet, other laws, regardless of legitimacy would also pass.
Also protecting free speech generally requires more government intervention, not less.

the problem isn't throttling, it's throttling specific websites for a financial or political advantage.

I'm up for taking bait but I'm not sure what the point is here.
>Forcing smaller companies to adhere to the same standards as the big ones only gimps them immediately and removes the competition from the playing field.
This sounds like an argument but I can't think of an industry where upstarts are at a dissadvanate from a level playing field.

They don't bill YOU for the water consumed, they bill everyone for everyone's water that's consumed.

You get billed 65 bucks if you drink a glass a day or if you fill up your swimming pool everyday.

A reminder that fascist governments are inherently inefficient and they lost during world war two.

>see who supports either side and decide for yourself.

Basically, net neutrality is a movement to give government control of the internet so that the corporations won't destroy the entire internet because they're evil.

If you don't support the movement then you obviously work for the corporations and are okay with the internet being destroyed.

And by corporations I mean the corporations I don't like, not the ones I do like, like google and netflix.

BUT WHO WILL BUILD THE ROADS?!

It's mainly comcast and att that hate net neutrality, because they control the internet pipes.
Netflix wants net neutrality since it means comcast can't charge them extra to use the internet.

>See how easy my favorable opinion is? Nice, right?
>Everything sucks otherwise! Forget it!
So typical to make it sound like that.

No it would be more like this
With Net Neutrality: Gamers have slightly less latency because everyone has the same Federally Regulated internet speed as ordained by the Internet Regulation Agency. If said agency decides to restrict internet, even a bit, everyone suffers - despite you paying your bills on time or how you feel about it. Tough shit.

Without Net Neutrality: Don't use a lot of internet? Don't buy a big, expensive package. Use a lot and need something stronger? So long as your area has a few ISPs with those packages, no problem. Let's not forget about Fiber - a new, high demand option that offers speeds somewhere near 10 times normal and for a fraction of the cost of some other competitors. I personally am looking into Fiber in my area but they "don't provide it here" even though their website says it does ... so they referred me to BigCorp #3 who totally isn't bullying them or anything ;^) But their Fiber packages is half the cost of what I am currently paying with BigCorp#3 and is easily 10 times as fast. I really wish monopolies were regulated!

Oh wait. They are, aren't they? ;^)
Well so long as they're not "technically" a monopoly, no one can do anything about it - so tell me, how does "Net Neutrality" solve any of that? I won't even go into the aspect of "throttling", to make it easier on you...

Net "neutrality" is what kikes and redditors call handing over control of the internet to the government because muh porn and muh ebil corporations. Notice how all the nanny state faggots in this thread sperg out if you mention this.

That is actually retarded.
>basically, net neutrality is a movement to give government control of the internet
No. It is to protect the laws that ensure no special privileges are given to specific websites, such as partners to an ISP. This means you might have youtube blocked by comcast because they partnered with Vimeo, and you can only browse youtube for 10 hours a month before having to upgrade your plan for an extra 20$ a month.

Being against net neutrality is being for the Jews, you fucking shill.

Wrong so wrong. NN is about providing equal bandwidth which has no negative effect on the data you view online. Your payment plan should dictate speed not the government.

>If said agency decides to restrict internet, even a bit, everyone suffers


[citation needed]

You are creating a hypothetical problem that does not, and has not existed, ever.

Your premise is flawed and therefore all your logic based on that premise is flawed.

>Net neutrality makes providers just sell internet without saying how you should use it.
Mmmm nope, we had this debacle pop up during that Netflix throttling fiasco and it was resolved before net neutrality came around. Net neutrality just makes it impossible for fresh competitors to offer new cheaper service packages. Please stop being retarded.

>Net "neutrality" is what kikes and redditors call handing over control of the internet to the government
We're not handing over anything you fucking imbecile holy shit. Its to protect the current laws, the same ones that even allow you to browse Sup Forums without adding it to your plan because Sup Forums isn't going to be included in any package these fuckers offer. And you know damn well those kikes are going to charge you 5$+ to add a single website to the plan.

The government is demonstrably less corrupt than the cable and internet companies that currently hold a monopoly over the internet. Giving them more power will only make things worse.

>We're not handing over anything you fucking imbecile holy shit
You literally are. You are granting power to the government.

>Its to protect the current laws
>we need a law to protect laws
holy fucking shit please stop

>It is to protect the laws
Agreed. These ancient 2 year old laws need to be preserved else the corporations (again, the ones I don't like) will destroy censor the internet.

Thank God government is there to save us from this threat of the corporations (bad ones), else they would probably delete Sup Forums and other nefarious things that they would definitely do if these ancient 2 year old laws were not controlling them.

Net neutrality benefits the consumer

No net neutrality benefits the cable companies.

The entire purpose of government is to protect the people. This would fall into that category.

This. Look for the bullshit Orwellian naming conventions they give their plans and run the opposite way to find the truth. If they can't just call regulation "regulation", you know it's fucked.

>It's a fallacy to assume poorly
Of course but there's a chance of it happening. Same as the garbage the Pro-side has been spewing. It's a "what if" for days because even experts don't actually know for sure how bad either will be or can get.

>Implying they don't throttle now
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>He posted so many times with such depth!
>But I disagree so it must be bait
Let's use a fine as an example.
Violate this law and you will be fined sum $15,000,000 not one cent more.

This would be easy for already large corporations that sneeze that much money without noticing. For a smaller company, this could totally wipe them off the map. If we get lazy with our laws or make too many, we WILL lose track and have more outdated, retarded laws. Legal is very specific and when we talk of regulation, it can get very messy, very quickly.

Imagine the scramble the lawyers and politicians would be in, every other year, if we need more internet for our growing population? They'd need to re-regulate everything because they'd need to allow more bandwidth etc. Every. Single. Time.

Now, how often do you think they would want to bother with such an ordeal? I personally do not trust our government with yet even more power over our free-speech medium. I think the world's governments shouldn't be allowed to decide "you said something in America that violates the law in Thailand, you're under arrest!". That's stupid as fuck. Keep government out of the internet.

>You literally are. You are granting power to the government.
We're not granting power to anyone. You're granting massive power to kikes in Verizon and Comcast the ability to shut off your internet because you masturbate to cartoons.

This is how retarded you are - you think we are advocating for the *creation* of a law, rather than the *scrapping* of a law that provides you with the very internet you know, the same one that doesn't charge you extra every month to visit this mongolian cave painting website.

Sarcasm will get you no where and do nothing for your arguments.

holy fucking shit youre dumb, enjoy your censored internet

If you are for it, you are on the same side as George Soros and Obama

>ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS NET NEUTRALITY IS A JEW SHILL
"LETS GIVE MONEY TO THE JEWS, ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS A JEW SHILL!"
kike

>Federal regulated internet won't pose a problem because they'll regulate everything fairly
>I trust the government
>A problem could happen but it totally won't because it hasn't presented itself before now! :^)
>Therefore EVERYTHING you've said it false
I wonder who could be behind this post. Lazy, if nothing else.

>The government is demonstrably less corrupt
We can just stop reading right there. You trust the fucking social engineers in government more than corporations simply seeking profits? The motives of one are much more pure than the other.

>a nation of 90 million people takes 6 years to lose to a combined population of half a billion
>flag

>HURR THIS LAW MADE BY OBAMA THATS ONLY EXISTED FOR THREE YEARS IS THE BEST THING EVER CUS MUH ACCESS AND WE NEED MORE LAWS

Sup Forums isn't going to fucking disappear and the government isn't magically protecting it right now. Besides, big business kikes have shown to be demonstrably more trustworthy than big gov kikes, why do you think the likes of Soros are backing it.

You're not natsoc

So the vast majority of Americans are shills, now?

I just wanted to point out that little insult at the end, how ridiculous that is.

>The government doesn't understand technology
>That's why I trust them with regulating it
Just stop, leaf. Your people are already known for being some of the worst shitposters.

Go to Netflix.com right now. That should give you the answer.

>Federal regulated internet won't pose a problem because they'll regulate everything fairly

>he would rather have an internet regulated by a dozen different corporations, all of which are controlled by Jews, than by a single law saying "hey, don't throttle service to any website because you don't like them"
>then he implies the jews are the ones advocating for net neutrality

wow its like you're retarded or something

Not the Marxists. Too lazy and don't know how.

>Sarcasm will get you no where and do nothing for your arguments.
Not sure what you're talking about. Are you saying my pro-net neutrality posts are weak? I'm sorry let me switch to the strong arguments.
>SUPPORT THIS MOVEMENT OR YOUR INTERNET GETS IT
Wait that sounds like we're evil. Let me try again.
>YOU WILL BE BLOWN UP BY TERRORISTS IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT THE PATRIO-
wait hold on. one more try.
>JOIN OUR MOVEMENT OTHERWISE [FAVORITE WEBSITE] WILL BE DELETED/CENSORED/BLOCKED!
There we go.

Net neutrality is bad. Without it, your ISP can kill off shit websites like Sup Forums. The cancer will finally be cured.

>big business kikes have shown to be demonstrably more trustworthy than big gov kikes
>its the "you have to choose between one group of jews or another" argument
yeah ok
Soros is behind net neutrality because he isn't retarded and knows it will be cheaper for him (a consumer) to use it to spread his propaganda rather than buy off his friends to let his shill websites prosper.

>saying that the government doesn't need to protect anime porn websites isn't natsoc

Really made me think.

Net neutrality is internet communism.

Basically it allows large corporations like Netflix to use fuck tons of brandwidth and instead of paying for it themselves, EVERYONE who buys internet has to subsidize it. This way, these companies can basically rake in ridiculous amounts of money from advertisers and subscription fees without having to pay jack shit. Without net neutrality, you would see your internet cost lower but subscription fees to certain websites would go up, or there would be more advertisements on some websites.

Inb4 "Comcast isn't going to lower their prices because they have a monopoly in many areas on internet service!"

Then why don't they increase the price right now? Because they already charge the maximum amount for internet service that they, as a company, have determined people are willing to pay. They aren't going to start charging more just because net neutrality gets repealed. The fact that some ISPs hold a monopoly is a problem, but it really has nothing to do with net neutrality.

If I only use the internet a couple times a day for 15 minutes, my internet subscription fee shouldn't be subsidizing people who watch Twitch all day long while simultaneously listening to Spotify with 15 pornhub tabs open. The brandwidth costs should be charged to the companies that use the most brandwidth. Not pushed onto the consumer. If you self-righteous morons would actually think critically and consider opposing viewpoints, you might realize there's a reason so many massive internet corporations are pushing net neutrality so hard. It isn't because they have your best interests in mind. It's because companies like Facebook stand to lose millions and might have to compete with smaller businesses.

Your situation is entirely hypothetical

You are deflecting the flawed premise of your point because you have no solid foundation to stand on. Put on your tin foil hat and go back to your basement.

Money is power. There is no difference between seeking power in government or seeking more money, the two are interchangeable.


So many children on this board, with absolutely no understanding of anything.

It doesn't change anything heh. We all got facebook accounts heh. It just stops you from culturally appropriating BBC vernacular like "based" online. Feel me cuz?

>EVERYONE who buys internet has to subsidize it.

>Because they already charge the maximum amount for internet service that they, as a company, have determined people are willing to pay.

These two statements cannot be simultaneously true.

>actually think critically and consider opposing viewpoints
The government can do that for us. The government can do anything if we just believe. Heretics like you who doubt the government will receive Federal Punishment for your heresy.

>The entire purpose of government is to protect the people.
Now I know you're a fucking shill.

So the FCC can censor and fine people for swearing on TV, why can't they do that on the internet?

Why aren't people mad about "cable neutrality" or "cell phone" neutrality they do all the same bullshit to you here but people still pay.

People will pay for the "social media plus" package.

The point is they """can""" but they won't you won't notice a difference. Before there was a word for this shit it didn't exist. It's just a meme by (((them))) for the facebook slacktivists that aren't going to do anything.

Let me put it this way, Trump is the president. I'm sure you're not thrilled of that, considering you're A FUCKING LEAF but bear with me, syrup child.

If Trump has the power to regulate the internet... Wouldn't that be a bad thing for liberals? Wouldn't you be afraid of him censoring "fake news"? See, I side with Trump but I think that's too much power to be given to anyone. I don't see how you trust the government but also don't trust the government. And you claim I'm the one with fallacies? You're a shitposting contradiction. You think more government secures our free speech? I'm sorry but I heard people say "faggot" and "nigger" more times in my high school days than I have in recent years. That was because the government wasn't cracking down on socalled "Hate Speech". Don't you see where I'm going with this? You can dislike bigotry but who decides what is considered bigotry and what needs to be censored? Just imagine if Trump came up with this idea specifically to regulate your liberal free speech. How cucked would you be? There would be no recovering from that. YOU would be the person that said "Yes, I want the government to crack down on hate speech" and YOU would be the one guilty of silencing yourself.

You can read the net neutrality rules for yourself.

transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2015/db0312/FCC-15-24A1.pdf

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No Blocking. Consumers who subscribe to a retail broadband Internet access service
must get what they have paid for—access to all (lawful) destinations on the Internet. This essential and
well-accepted principle has long been a tenet of Commission policy, stretching back to its landmark
decision in Carterfone, which protected a customer’s right to connect a telephone to the monopoly
telephone network

No Throttling. The 2010 open Internet rule against blocking contained an ancillary
prohibition against the degradation of lawful content, applications, services, and devices, on the ground
that such degradation would be tantamount to blocking.

No Paid Prioritization. Paid prioritization occurs when a broadband provider accepts
payment (monetary or otherwise) to manage its network in a way that benefits particular content,
applications, services, or devices.

he appointed some indian faggot that wants to get rid of it

therefore he is also pushing it

People give up power to the government to protect them.

This is basic civics and the fact that you don't even understand the fundamental principles of politics is quite telling.

so you support trump's position on net neutrality under the guise that he would fight liberals with it

>Money is power.
Spoken like someone who's never been around either.

No, power is power. And it's corrupting influence (particularly when wielded by the SJWs and the like in government) is far, far worse than money will ever be.

With Citizen's United, money is power.

The more money you have, the more power you wield, the more you can influence world events. You cannot deny this. To deny this is delusion.

You shouldn't support it. All it does is give control of your Internet access to the government instead of the ISPs. It's a war between content providers and ISPs, and has nothing to do with you. The real question is whether you want the government in the ring, too.

Remember before 2015 when ISPs used to ban you from websites? What terrible times we lived in, goy!

I see what you're trying to say, and you're correct in your thinking, but the first statement was explaining why net neutrality, in principle, is a bad thing. The second statement is explains why with or without net neutrality it really won't make a difference because ISPs already charge you as much as they believe they can to maximize profits. They're not going to suddenly start charging more just because net neutrality is gone.

>Remember before 2015 when ISPs used to ban you from websites?
No but you don't understand! Didn't you see that image that had website access packages! That's proof that they're probably going to do it!

Net neutrality protects us from greedy (((capitalist))) corporations who are going to censor you if you take power away from the government.

But your reasoning for net neutrality is a bad thing is not being demonstrated in real life.

If anything, you are arguing for net neutrality because it forces ISP's to give everyone priority and because they know they can't extort their customers as much as they already do, they can't raise the price.

It's win-win.

Not at all. I am against Net Neutrality, despite who supports it. I think it's a bad idea. I only pointed out how it could turn around and fuck literally everyone in the ass, depending on who has the power. It's a bad deal for us citizens. I would rather just have shitty internet I pay more than I feel I should than have the fed in my bedroom checking in on what I'm doing every hour of the evening. No thanks.

Oh okay I am now informed and calling my congressman!

dailydot.com/layer8/fcc-internet-freedom-net-neutrality/
its so corrupt, theyre abusing the language, ENGLISH, to destroy it.
the internet = communication

Watch they cant answer the discrepancies i brought up

THeyre so corrupt, they can't use their definitions consistnently, SO NON-CONSISTENT, taht what theyre usign to take it over with they stole from what it had

oh no, Sup Forums will get even slower and the masses of people looking for (you)s will go elsewhere resulting in a mass exodus of cancerous phone posters

however shall we manage

only KIKES and SHILLS are against net neutrality
ever heard of Netflix? that is what will happen to pol

>People give up power to the government
Pretty sure our founding fathers were quite insistent on never, ever, EVER doing that. But then again, you're hiding behind that meme flag so I'm sure you live in a shitty socialist country and not America.

So which option do we lose less and Jews wins less

Either option sounds really bad

>ever heard of Netflix?
Yeah, the issue was resolved in court before net neutrality was a thing.

Because the ultimate red pill on this is that net neutrality doesn't make much of a difference either way. If it goes away nothing is really going to change.

>They're not going to suddenly start charging more just because net neutrality is gone.
Cases where ISPs were manipulating bandwidth, throttling, and blocking:
2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services.(FCC put a stop to it) cnet.com/news/telco-agrees-to-stop-blocking-voip-calls/
2005- Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers. eff.org/deeplinks/2007/10/eff-tests-agree-ap-comcast-forging-packets-to-interfere
2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. fortune.com/2009/04/03/group-asks-fcc-to-probe-iphone-skype-restrictions/
2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. (edit: they actually sued the FCC over this) wired.com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge/
2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their products. (This one happened literally months after the trio were busted collaborating with Google to block apps from the android marketplace)
businessinsider.com/verizon-blocking-google-wallet-2011-12
savetheinternet.com/blog/11/07/06/verizons-illegal-app-blocking

Don't give them traffic

>wired com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge
archive.is/LwLMM
>businessinsider com/verizon-blocking-google-wallet-2011-12
archive.is/YlqZs

MFW we already have net neutrality institutionalised, and companies compete which will first deliver optic fibre internet. I still remember when i first pirated 1GB file in 10. God this were times. Now everything is so shit in popular culture, that if i am bothered to download 100 MB of data in month, its already rare. Just admit america, your "free market" just doesn't always work so good as you claim.

2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. (edit: they were fined $1.25million over this)
washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/fcc-fines-verizon-125m-for-blocking-tethering-apps/2012/07/31/gJQAXjRLNX_blog.html
2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. freepress.net/press-release/99480/att-blocking-iphones-facetime-app-would-harm-consumers-and-break-net-neutrality
2013, Verizon literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place. savetheinternet.com/blog/2013/09/18/verizons-plan-break-internet
2016, Netflix already has to pay ISPs to not mess with their traffic to you. usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/shinal/2016/03/29/netflix-throttling-shows-net-neutrality-life-support-column/82388890/
2017, Time Warner Cable slowed down connections to League of Legends servers, while they were negotiating contracts with Riot in an effort to strong-arm Riot into paying TWC money. Spectrum ( bought TWC ) is now being sued by the state of New York over this.
polygon.com/2017/2/9/14548880/time-warner-lawsuit-new-york-league-of-legends-netflix
So yeah, ISP DO throttle, and interfere with the services you purchase for their gain. And Ajit Pai is a fucking goddamn liar.

Net neutrality ensures that internet is public utility like water. It puts the power to control the internet in the hands of the people, not greedy people in suits.

So maybe other companies should come along and set up their own infrastructures to compete with Comcast. You pessimist fucks act like it's impossible, but it's really not. Net neutrality is a step away from ending the monopolies

Too typical of an actual commie to call someone else a tin foil hat conspiracist, while you morons are busy claiming THE RUSSIANS. Don't think for a second your memeflag has me fooled. Leaf? Swede? What cuck country are you from?

>You're employing simple dismissal on the foundation that "Nah, won't happen"
>I'm the one deflecting
And what's your foundation on? Right now, under Net Neutrality, we have people that are being arrested from violating laws in OTHER COUNTRIES. Laws that they didn't even know existed or should care about, because the internet IS NOT NEUTRAL THROUGH NET NEUTRALITY. The government should not have reign over the internet. You are making a big mistake trusting the government that you don't trust with something this big. Look past your hate for racist bigots for one fucking second and realize how this could and WOULD fuck you over, if you allow some congress to decide that you have retroactively violated an internet law or an international law and you are now going to prison for 40 years.
>But this won't happen because it hasn't happened yet
You're being stupid. This is what we're TRYING to avoid. Let's say you really do trust the government with regulating the internet, is that good enough reason to force everyone else into a deal they're not comfortable with?

Simple thought experiment for you: who's more powerful, Bill Gates or Donald Trump?

Bill Gates or the combined members of the Supreme Court?

Yes, money often correlates with power, but they are not completely interchangeable.

Now, finally, guess which one is easier to measure, quantify, discern. Which one is easier to track. The motives related to one essentially become a simple equation. The motives related to the other can be shrouded in mystery, knowable only to the one who has it.

The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.

With net neutrality we win because the corporations will not be able to shut down sites like pol. Corporations suffer from free expression online, your elected representatives only benefit from the existence of pol.

You are such a child.

You don't even understand the basic principles of voting.

Get off here and go read a book for Christ sake.

>It puts the power to control the internet in the hands of the people
But the control of 'public utilities' in America is controlled by monopolies, not the people, jackass.

Yeah but the government makes it hard for small companies to set up their own infrastructure so we need the government to solve the problems that government caused.

Why won't you just stop resisting and join us? We have all the celebrities and tech giants and world leaders and media organizations and intellectuals on our side.

Stop resisting you fucking shitlord.

And just like our water, many parts of the U.S have third world tier internet

Both the ISPs and government are shit, however power ultimately needs to be taken away from ISPs and given to the people as much as possible

>Found the ISP shill.
0.2 shekels have been deposited in your account. kek

you proven no point so
>no understanding of anything
yea you made YOUR POINT you STUPID FAGGOT

>2017, Time Warner Cable slowed down connections to League of Legends servers, while they were negotiating contracts with Riot in an effort to strong-arm Riot into paying TWC money. Spectrum ( bought TWC ) is now being sued by the state of New York over this.

Oh no , DONT MESS WITH MY FUCKING GAME.

I even upgraded my route to get rid of packet loss and i still had lag spikes.And i just found the reason. I use earthlink but earthlink is associated with TWC