Are we men to blame for porn? It has opened the floodgates of degeneracy, racemixing, trannies, faggots, but we men never spoke out against it, because it was convenient for us. I am sure that if we had a strict ban on porn from the start, the world would still be okay.
Is this modern world our fault altogether?
Nah, porn and masturbation are good for you. They prevent cancer and they feel good, what's not to love?
>What's not to love
That the seed you spill is wasted on your shitty floor than inside a woman?
nothing wrong in looking at solo chicks doing solo stuff
the real degeneracy is looking at other dudes dicks fucking the chick.
i think the hottest girls aren't in porn, but a lot of my friends disagree. i see hotter girls in public than in porn
Porn is evil.
wasted implies that your body doesn't just immediately begin producing more. Also speed dies every day and you ejaculate it at night during "wet dreams."
Stop having wet dreams it's wrong. Jesus said no wet dreaming.
>still spilling seed and doesn't practice seminal retention
kys
Wrong and wew, you're so fucking perceptible to (((their))) lies and sly propaganda.
Fuck this is so true.
>Not saving it for your future wife
If you masturbate, you are more fucking pathetic than cucks. If you continue protecting masturbation, you're allowing (((them))) to win, because it will keep you away from social interaction with a real woman.
men are too blame for porn. men are the only ones who really feel this sexual urge. and finding that women just arn't worth it, porn is just an easier alternative to subsiding your primal natural desires. it's women who don't want it, so the next best thing is porn.
I'm open to what you say but you need to justify it. You can't just say "Jews want u to fap" when it's a natural behaviour observed in chimps. You sound like an Uber bible faggot.
You do know that OP just showed how jews control porn? Good lord, I can't tell if this is a JIDF shill or b8.
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Porn is Social Engineering,Brainwashing & filled with Subliminal messages.
[A while back, a KB was done on this: archive.4plebs.org
All Fetishes you see promoted have an agenda behind them. Some very obvious, others more complexly sinister.
Anons vid related is a real eye opener into what porn actually is.
I guess a lot of us are. Obviously, especially if you've ever bought porn, but don't forget women look at it too
This.
All this "women are asexual creatures" is BS. Loads of women watch porn and masturbate to it with their dildos and vibrators. It allows them to experience sexual pleasure without the risk of getting involved with a real man.
This
Your mind becomes more and more degenerate every time. You start watching regular porn a few years ago, now you're into anal, choking, incest, and teens. Pretty soon you'll be a good goy and go straight for the cp.
Answer is both
Men create the demand by quitting society and (((going their own way)))
Women fill the demand because easy shekels and there are no strong men in their lives to offer as a guide on how they ought to live their life
>how do we fix this?
Pic related. Men need to stop consuming porn in the amount that they do and go back the fuck outside
>inb4 no fap
Moderation is key. Some of it is acceptable plus you can learn something from it to use on women
If you compare yourself to a chimp you should be treated as such.
Why are people who follow Abrahamic religions have negative views on porn, while people who follow other religions don't have a problem with it? In my opinion there is nothing wrong with porn, unless it's with plastic women, big titties and nigger cocks. God can send me to hell just because I watch nude women I don't want to fuck.
Why does God hate pornography so much?
>Christianity is the only true religion, other shall be PURGED
If so, why don't you make a big army purging people who aren't Christians?
>If so, why don't you make a big army purging people who aren't Christians?
Well, this is what Sup Forums is for.
God invented sex and procreation. Porn is none of those things. It's for weak cucks who lack enough confidence and discipline to get a wife and maintain her with sex and procreation.
>God invented sex and procreation
cool story christcuck, go whorship your jew on a stick.
porn is progress, but only the good kind of porn see
Wow, that's actually pretty interesting. I used to think NoFap was bullshit because it was backed by pseudo-science (I mean, it still kinda is) but I think I'm gonna give it a chance now.
I didn't ask for this. Why did He put porn I his blacklist?
> say God
> think christcuck
Porn is unneeded degeneracy that fuels narcissism and jealousy creating a weak society of cucked boys. Masturbation is a nothing more than self-harm. Learn about your fucking body before you jack off and deplete yourself.
>Are we men to blame for porn?
You have underestimated the 9D chess manipulation women are capable of;
They have managed to get millions of men to focus their sexual attention on them, sacrificing their life energy to them, while another man feeds them his life energy AND THEY'VE CONVINCED US THAT WE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM BY DOING THIS!
Never underestimate the feminine jew, their powers of manipulation are beyond their own understanding - so they don't consciously know what they are doing, but they are never the less astounding in their ability.
>muh pseudoscience
nothing wrong in rubbing one out once a day while looking at pretty female bodys.
It's not pseudo-science. Confucius said about masturbating that going a week without it is healthy but going months is more healthy for a true man.
But my GF gets upset if I don't cum during sex.......
What now?
sasha grey was raised catholic. She became an athcuckthiest
The redpill is that (((they))) don't want people to know that masturbation for males leads to depletion since semen carried by men gives them nutrients and chemicals vital to healthy and energetic libido. That is why Athletes refrain from ejaculating before an event, because they can feel a physical difference when they dont jack off.
kikes love to pretend to be catholic
but thats a lie, a simple google search already states the truth
>In a recent study, they surveyed 2,000 participants of the London Marathon after the race. What they found was that those runners who had been sexually active the night before were on average 5 minutes faster than those who had abstained.
but yea whatever, keep spouting your nofap bullshit
dunno - she seemed pretty christian-raised to me in her ponos, but you could be right
She doesn't understand what is going on. Man up and don't let your GF tell you what to do. She may even be shit-testing you to see how man enough you are by being disciplined enough to not cum on her but hold it inside you. Ejaculating wont kill you of course but know that when you ejaculate you are giving something vital out of you.
Read this book, it is a gold mine on this subject.
Men liking to look at pictures of sexy beautiful women is the opposite of degeneracy, you retard. It's pro-straight and empowering to men.
>not recycling
this is where many people fuck up
ok explain
> In my opinion there is nothing wrong with porn, unless its with big titties
??? heathens everyone
> what is a wife?
Of course its better than thinking your gay but its just like a nigger, thinking only about sex n boobs all day. No wonder this generation hasn't done shit.
I hate to tell you this user but that causes hair loss, the testosterone goes straight to the roots on your head and strangles them.
Let me guess you're already receding in your 20s?
Poor little anglos puritans in this thread...
Thanks for the pill my dude
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I can't stand Anastasia Martzipanova but I want to know who the grill in the BG is.
I meant the balloons of titties.
Why shouldn't we think about sex? White people shall fuck like rabbits until there are more white people than non white-people in the world.
>black cock
Yuck.
Whoops.
>futa
ULTRA-YUCK
>your gay but its just like a nigger, thinking
>your gay
>calling other people niggers
yeah how about I disregard what you have to say
Sex in marriage which leads eventually to procreation is great and important. Even in the Bible God said to do that. But obsessing over a simple act is stupid and a waste of time. It benefits no one just like watching hours of pointless tv shows benefit no one.
no clue but this photo was taken by Alexander Mavrin
Sexually Active doesn't mean masturbation you Mong
doesn't matter, as you cum either way.
No, what you are being told by all these hired so called (((scientists))) is nothing more than lies supporting the creation of a degenerate sex crazed society. You're believing the pseudo-science.
>It is absolutely right that there are ancient precedents for the idea that abstaining from sex could help athletic performance. Aelian, Varia Historia 3.30, tells us that the athlete Cleitomachus was so abstinent that he never slept with his wife, and that he would turn away if he saw dogs mating in the street. That anecdote picks up on the standard idea of athletes as models of virtue and self-control.
Source
ancientandmodernolympics.wordpress.com
yea sure its all a conspiracy so men rub one out.
holy fuck what a lunatic you are.
also even if that shit was true, why would the average non marathon guy care about this?
also keep your shill links to yourself.
Overpopulation is real. What all of us need to do is dispense much more death. And quick. At least people who jerk it all day are helping the population slow a bit. What they should do is kill themselves. That would be very helpful.
There's a difference between fapping to nude women doing a solo show and fapping to a white girl getting fucked by a black
>yea sure its all a conspiracy...
Why the fuck are you on Sup Forums again?
You are arguing for the kikes, literally doing their own work for them.
Masturbation is self-harm. Sex is not.
cool proof, not fake shit at all.
you nofap retards are all retarded shills arguing against natural urges, thats the problem.
>nofap
Pretty stupid really. If you're not having sex it's okay to get a release every once and awhile. Everything in moderation though.
>noporn
This is what people need to actually start doing. Pron is where the negative side effects come from, not masturbating.
>This is what people need to actually start doing.
see
autogynephilia
maybe for you deranged tanssexual retard.
get help
lmao plebbitches are so easy to spot. you have to go back though
40 days without fapping, its always a good time to free yourselv of the wankjew and stop being a literal cuck watching others have sex, Sup Forums
plebit fagots need to go back right fucking now,. dont think people dont know who you are lmao
I don't even have a plebbit account and literally never use that site you nofap shill faggot.
No, both give you an unrealistic view of women and sex. Unless you're fucking models watching solo girls way out of your league is going to do harm in the long run.
So NoFap might help my eczema, huh? Might give it a try then. Still can't make me get a job though.
Seriously just look at hentai.
It's technically not porn (as no 3dpd is ever depicted, it's literally just pixels in the screen arranged in a pleasing manner) and gives all the benefits of porn (hot girls doing hot stuff).
when you get to my level, those thigns you post do nothing. im above that, i now get a desire to mate and love when present with a woman, instead of a screen. enjoy being a fapfagot
no,overpopulation is not real.Humanity is just all jammed in at the cities so it looks overpopulated.
Hentai is even worse for you than regular porn weeb
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Kikes are responsable, also to this day 30-40% of females watch porn
pic related, recommend you read first
I've been doing nofap for 2 years now, started because I was depressed and trouble with endurance sports
happy enough with results that I intend to give up sex and masturbation indefinitely
>it's natural/ok from time to time/ect...
masturbating won't harm you unless you do so to the extent of becoming dependent on the dopamine release it creates
>cancer
found by harvard in prostate cancer study
found the sexually active men had a 20% reduced chance of prostate cancer
they observed that things like obesity, smoking, drinking and drug use also reduce sexual activity, hence the increased risk of cancer observed in people that seldom masturbated
>concerns over hair, anger, hornyness form testosterone increase
testosterone peaks around 10 days in depending on the person and then decreases until your brain cannot develop any more androgen receptors
by that point you'll find yourself to be calm and almost impervious to arousal
>Unless you're fucking models
Escorts are legal here my dude so yes I actually do.
thats like your opinion man, go and do that but don't annoy other people with what you think they're supposed to do with their dicks.
you are sad
>G*rman
>shilling for porn degeneracy
No surprise here. Good goy.
very interesting read, the cause of the rising cucks and beta males in todays society
nofap tards out in full force today huh?
>full no tuggie tard force today
I'd like to hear why you think abstention is bad
please make me think with examples and the outline of a theory
Oh ye
It's probably getting worse as dumbasses would paint the blame on something quickly than actually think about stuff.
I don't watch porn anymore now that I'm in a relationship again. No problem with it, just that I get my needs out either with my girlfriend, or rarely just by getting a wank and using my imagination.
I've found that just using my imagination is far more satisfying than opening tabs, trying to locate a particular video, etc, when I can just fucking think about it.
It's like the people who lose their sense of direction because they're so reliant on their smartphone. Drop the tech and the mind clears.
There's literally no reason not to, unless you're in a relationship, married, or a normie. All the "benefits" to no fap is really only good for normies, robots don't gain anything from not looking at porn other then increased frustration.
my dear hans im just posting what i think about the subject of porn, why u haff to be mad
TLDR: Watching porn ->ure making women, more and more, have these (natural) standards of pleasure to rule over you [when ure watching porn ure literally valurazing that natural thing] -> U start to depend ur self-worth on women. -> start to feel insecure when ure talking to a hot girl. or feel like ure a "loser" because u dont get laid X times.
I remember being like twenty and finding a video of a guy fucking a shemale while a woman sucked her cock. Probably fapped to it a dozen times. Porn was and still is one of their most effective weapons in controlling us.
THIS. How is ejaculation from sex supposed to be physiologically different from ejaculation from masturbation?
Porn is interesting because nothing quite like it has ever existed. It's degenerate fly paper... a gateway to further degenerate behavior. You probably wouldn't habitually jack it to other people fucking in front of you... you'd feel like a freak.
I would say that hedonism is bad. Digital hedonism is especially bad imo because it has no connection to life at all. An utter waste of time and self esteem.
checked and check my first post for info
what I'll add to it is that the dopamine release from ejaculation reinforces the vicious cycle robots are in of numbing themselves with a dopamine intensive activity, like junk food, masturbation, entertainment drugs ect
it's like quitting an opiate or a junk food addiction to stop fapping
you'd also be pleasantly surprised by how much more confident and motivated you feel after a (long) while of abstention
it's the same feeling you have when immersed in an action scene or vidya' you need the escapism of media a lot less
Your mind knows, your body is in conjunction with your mind, your body knows. There are studies showing this yet it is persistently brought up and I don't understand why because it is so intellectually lazy.
ergo sum: jacking it to porn =/= jacking it =/= not jacking it
All my life i've watched porn. Im 19 now, stopped watching for a year now (have got a gf so im not "hardcore no ejaculation mode")
But throught Highschool i felt insecure around girls, or would feel like shit because my mates were getting sex and i hasnt. I noticed that this is because of watching porn(and pretty much society influence, its everywhere) i valorized this standards, i put "women on a pedestal" like those PUA faggots speak off.
When i quit porn i noticed i didn't care much about it, even tho i was a virgin, i didn't give a fuck talking to the hottest girls, or would never feel insecure because of a girl. and funny enough i got a gf way out of my league.
Because all women want, is confidence.
Actually they want your soul too but I wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.
well consider how much shitty relationships, would end if men didn't let themselves be manipulated with sex, and would end the relationship right there.
instead of putting up with it and taking the disfunctional relationship further and then she steals all your shit, your dog, your house, your kids.
You are wise for your years. Keep your head on your shoulders.
Yeah, psychologically speaking they're different. But as far as things like testosterone levels go, I can't see how they'd differ
i see this with some friends of mine, which i believe is also due to the fact of porn. she cheated a lot of times and is obviously a manipulating, devious, and making his life measurable but he puts up with it like a "beta" because she manipulates him with sex, and self-esteem like shes a god that he needs validation from "but shes so wonderfull" "everyone makes mistakess"